Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.1.2, Second Call

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Sperber
Eli Barzilay writes: > 11 hours ago, Michael Sperber wrote: >> >> I still need Stephen Chang's commit to be merged over: >> >> commit 8956364387fa25ffeb51e50fc1a83c20fd88af32 >> Author: Stephen Chang >> Date: Sun Jul 24 12:18:09 2011 -0400 >> >> change recon-val in stepper to use rende

Re: [racket-dev] A basic package system

2011-07-27 Thread Carl Eastlund
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Jay McCarthy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Carl Eastlund wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: >>> 10 minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: They have more similarities than your message suggests I believe. And it is pr

Re: [racket-dev] A basic package system

2011-07-27 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Carl Eastlund wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: >> 10 minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: >>> They have more similarities than your message suggests I believe. >>> And it is probably worth exploring that.  As far as I can see a >>> facet

[racket-dev] Recommending nightly builds during releases

2011-07-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
An hour and a half ago, Vincent St-Amour wrote: > Have you tried the nightly builds? > > http://pre.racket-lang.org/installers/ Just a quick note: when there's a release going on, it's a perfect opportunity to recommend using that build rather than going for the nightly that has moved on since th

Re: [racket-dev] Racket on Rockets

2011-07-27 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Tony Garnock-Jones wrote: > On 2011-07-27 4:17 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: >> No such alchemy exists, it's just intended as part of the conceptual >> framework. > > Would it be fair to say that were such a thing to come into existence, > the VM would need to be

Re: [racket-dev] Racket on Rockets

2011-07-27 Thread Carl Eastlund
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Tony Garnock-Jones wrote: >> On 2011-07-27 4:01 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: >>> If you have a sufficiently powerful inspector, you can traverse any >>> structure.  In principle, you can even traverse

Re: [racket-dev] Racket on Rockets

2011-07-27 Thread Tony Garnock-Jones
On 2011-07-27 4:17 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > No such alchemy exists, it's just intended as part of the conceptual > framework. Would it be fair to say that were such a thing to come into existence, the VM would need to be changed as part of that work? > No, `struct->vector' uses the chape

Re: [racket-dev] Racket on Rockets

2011-07-27 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Tony Garnock-Jones wrote: > On 2011-07-27 4:01 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: >> If you have a sufficiently powerful inspector, you can traverse any >> structure.  In principle, you can even traverse closures this way, but >> no inspector with the needed power exis

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.1.2, Second Call

2011-07-27 Thread Carl Eastlund
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Ryan Culpepper wrote: > * Carl Eastlund >  - Dracula Tests (confirm that Dracula runs from PLaneT) Done, in case my [late] response on the prior thread was missed. --Carl _ For list-related administrative tasks:

Re: [racket-dev] A basic package system

2011-07-27 Thread Carl Eastlund
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > 10 minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: >> They have more similarities than your message suggests I believe. >> And it is probably worth exploring that.  As far as I can see a >> facet/modulet has less stuff than a package and possibly a differe

Re: [racket-dev] Racket on Rockets

2011-07-27 Thread Tony Garnock-Jones
On 2011-07-27 4:01 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > If you have a sufficiently powerful inspector, you can traverse any > structure. In principle, you can even traverse closures this way, but > no inspector with the needed power exists. See `struct->vector'. That sounds fantastic! Especially the

Re: [racket-dev] Racket on Rockets

2011-07-27 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Tony Garnock-Jones wrote: > On 2011-07-26 1:20 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> I don't have a lot of expertise on the ORM side, but I think Snooze >> would probably be awesome and my MongoDB-backed structs may be helpful >> too. > > Is there a way of generically traver

Re: [racket-dev] Racket is a Ruby Raw Packet Library

2011-07-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
8 minutes ago, Tony Garnock-Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > You may be interested to learn that Racket, > http://spoofed.org/files/racket/doc/, is a Ruby Raw Packet Library > for working with various network layers, Yes, the ohloh project page for "racket" was for that thing. > that has been incorpo

Re: [racket-dev] Racket on Rockets

2011-07-27 Thread Tony Garnock-Jones
On 2011-07-26 1:20 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: > I don't have a lot of expertise on the ORM side, but I think Snooze > would probably be awesome and my MongoDB-backed structs may be helpful > too. Is there a way of generically traversing all structure in a completely privileged way in Racket, without

[racket-dev] Racket is a Ruby Raw Packet Library

2011-07-27 Thread Tony Garnock-Jones
Hi all, You may be interested to learn that Racket, http://spoofed.org/files/racket/doc/, is a Ruby Raw Packet Library for working with various network layers, that has been incorporated into Metasploit http://www.metasploit.com/, a penetration testing toolkit. I know I was! Cheers, Tony _

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.1.2, Second Call

2011-07-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
11 hours ago, Michael Sperber wrote: > > I still need Stephen Chang's commit to be merged over: > > commit 8956364387fa25ffeb51e50fc1a83c20fd88af32 > Author: Stephen Chang > Date: Sun Jul 24 12:18:09 2011 -0400 > > change recon-val in stepper to use render-to-sexpr for non-lazy lists The

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.1.2

2011-07-27 Thread Carl Eastlund
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Ryan Culpepper wrote: > > * Carl Eastlund >  - Dracula Tests (confirm that Dracula runs from PLaneT) Done. _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.1.2

2011-07-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
On Sunday, Stephen Bloch wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Ryan Culpepper wrote: > > > * Stephen Bloch > > - Picturing Programs Tests > > Looks good. I've just pushed three commits: > ab01d563ca6a0313e1cb5c07372a2bd2929ae4bc should definitely go into the > release (it corrects some err

Re: [racket-dev] Using clang to Build Racket on Mac OS X

2011-07-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
50 minutes ago, Will M. Farr wrote: > I believe that the resulting native code libraries make racket run > faster, but haven't run any detailed tests (there was quite a gap > between my last gcc-based build and my first clang-based one, so the > improvements may also be due to Racket development).

[racket-dev] Using clang to Build Racket on Mac OS X

2011-07-27 Thread Will M. Farr
Hello Racket Developers, I thought I would write a quick note about building Racket on Mac OS X 10.6.8 with the new clang compiler (the new front-end to the LLVM compiler backend that is becoming the standard compiler on Mac OS X for XCode 4 and later). Overall, it's been a good experience. A

Re: [racket-dev] A basic package system

2011-07-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
10 minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: > They have more similarities than your message suggests I believe. > And it is probably worth exploring that. As far as I can see a > facet/modulet has less stuff than a package and possibly a different > story vis a vis files in the filesystem. They're reall

Re: [racket-dev] A basic package system

2011-07-27 Thread Robby Findler
They have more similarities than your message suggests I believe. And it is probably worth exploring that. As far as I can see a facet/modulet has less stuff than a package and possibly a different story vis a vis files in the filesystem. Robby On Wednesday, July 27, 2011, Jay McCarthy wrote: >

Re: [racket-dev] A basic package system

2011-07-27 Thread Jay McCarthy
I don't see them as overlapping, but you may understand them different than I do. The way I see modules/facets is that 'racket/list.rkt' will have a 'default' facet and a 'testing' facet and a 'documentation' facet, so that each use can be syntactically close but separately loadable. The way I se

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.1.2, Second Call

2011-07-27 Thread John Clements
On Jul 27, 2011, at 1:29 AM, Ryan Culpepper wrote: > Checklist items for the v5.1.2 release > (using the v5.1.1.900 release candidate build) > > Search for your name to find relevant items, reply when you finish an > item (please indicate which item/s is/are done). Also, if you have any > comm

Re: [racket-dev] A basic package system

2011-07-27 Thread Robby Findler
Bullet point 2 seems like it may overlap (in a practical, "what do I use today" sort of a way) with Matthew's modulelet construct. Both group modules together, both provide independently loadable things. Do we really want/need both of these? Robby On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Jay McCarthy w

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.1.2, Second Call

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Sperber
Ryan Culpepper writes: > * Mike Sperber > - Stepper Tests I still need Stephen Chang's commit to be merged over: commit 8956364387fa25ffeb51e50fc1a83c20fd88af32 Author: Stephen Chang Date: Sun Jul 24 12:18:09 2011 -0400 change recon-val in stepper to use render-to-sexpr for non-lazy