, "eventually"
so maybe not now)
- tests/* (looks like it's not done yet)
- There's a weird .gitignore in racket/collects/pkg which looks like
some erroneous leftover.
> Meanwhile, part of this experiment is defining "-lib" packages that
> do not provide documentation, which means they can have fewer
> build-time dependencies than they would need for documentation. The
> "-docs" packages provide the corresponding documentation. (I'm not
> sure about the naming convention; I just had to pick something for
> now.) Naturally, the "X" package pulls in both the "X-lib" and
> "X-doc" packages.
To clarify, after staring at this for some hours, I really prefer it
if there's a way to keep it all together and do everything within the
package system. (At least havine 3 repos for N packages sound like a
very unfun thing to deal with.) But I do want the ability to have
these partial-contents packages built for distribution.
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On Friday, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> At Fri, 24 May 2013 12:44:35 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > > > * The script should also take care to deal with files that got
> > > > removed in the past.
> > >
> > > Ditto.
> >
> > I don't believ
Four hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> At Fri, 24 May 2013 03:26:45 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > If that can be done reliabely, then of course it makes it possible to
> > do the split reliabley after the first restructure.
>
> Great! Let's do that, because I remain co
to decide
how their package gets installed, so for example, if realm must be
distributed with its sources, it can just specify that and avoid
the stripping that other packages would go through.
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8 hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> At Thu, 23 May 2013 07:09:17 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > "Relevant history" is vague.
>
> The history I want corresponds to `git log --follow' on each of the
> files that end up in a repository.
(In this context this is cle
the separate repositories.
>
> Is that the point?
The thing is that having two such filters (one to restructure the big
repository and one to split it) is both increasing chances for making
mistakes, and making the job of the second restructure much harder to
do.
Just now, Carl Eastlund wrote:
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
> A few minutes ago, Carl Eastlund wrote:
> >
> > It doesn't seem wrong to me. It's an accurate representation
> > of the history of the project, whi
A few minutes ago, Carl Eastlund wrote:
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
> 9 hours ago, Carl Eastlund wrote:
> > I was going to comment on the same thing. While a naive use
> > of "git filter-branch" might not retain the history
t no
file ends with a newline...)
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9 hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> At Wed, 22 May 2013 14:50:41 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > That's true, but the downside of changing the structure and having
> > files and directories move post structure change will completely
> > destroy the relevant edit history o
about much more than a 28M
thing. The smaller thing is at a point where you won't worry about it
beind left somewhere, and at a point where it's fine to installed as a
kind of a shared runtime thing for someone who wants to distribute
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y people who are not dealing with packages.
(And as a side note: even in the imaginary case that eventually
there's some anti-package or anti-repo-split revolution, nothing is
lost, since the result is still a better build + distribution
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to adjust too which should make the whole process more comfortable.
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or most people, switch to having
them as the main place: start mirroring the repos on github (and
elsewhere), and remove the monolithic one.
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ror.
(And BTW, I think that `match' is also an exceptional example in how
this will go:
(let ([else 1]) (match x [else ...]))
which is a little more confusing than the same with `cond'.)
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worrying about other
implementations, is there some use for `eqv?' that doesn't fit `eq?'
or `equal?'?
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nk that it's good to have a much more relaxed policy about
breaking compatibility in cases like this: so far there was no real
code found that uses the feature, but there is one instance of code
that would get fixed by the change...]
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> At Fri, 3 May 2013 11:56:02 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > (define (delay/thread thunk)
> > (let ()
> > (define p (make-promise/thread #f))
> > (pset! p (make-running-thread (thread (λ() ...same...
thing
along these lines can work instead of some explicit syncing:
(define (delay/thread thunk)
(let ()
(define p (make-promise/thread #f))
(pset! p (make-running-thread (thread (λ() ...same...))))
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> have done it too. This could annoy them.
Do you have an actual use that would *break*? That is, something like
(match x ... [else else])
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Maybe add a "misc" item with an enumeration of these things? (Just a
word on each so there's a hook for looking in the docs for the new
feature.)
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Racket distribution to the Racket package repository.
It might be good to include some very quick instructions on how to
install it.
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50 minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote:
> Did you consider adding a test case?
I have one, but did not commit it since I waited for a build to
finish last night.
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An hour ago, Asumu Takikawa wrote:
> On 2013-04-11 12:05:59 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > Remove the `*f' functions from the interface, and change the
> > non-`*f' functions to accept keywords as follows:
> >
> > (take #:num N L)
> > (ta
:until P L)
etc
while keeping the current arguments as a compatibility feature.
Another possibility is adding a `#:from-end' keyword for the
`*-right' variants (and keep the existing ones for compatibility).
50 minutes ago, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> About two weeks ag
ing
so. Meanwhile, I've added this to the above item:
Also, make it possible to always use a procedure where an arity is
expected.
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values. Manipulating them is
> also useful for producing error messages that describe the arity of
> procedure values. I don't see any reason to close this stuff off,
> when it's the one useful, non-opaque aspect of procedure values.
>
> Carl Eastlund
>
> On Thu,
unctions.
> |
> | Added contract checking to arity=?, arity-includes?, and normalized-arity.
> | Removed contract checking from normalize-arity to make it a total predicate.
> | Updated documentation for normalize-arity to reflect this change.
> :
> M collects/racket/function
About two weeks ago, Asumu Takikawa wrote:
> Late reply, but better than never.
>
> On 2013-03-10 16:20:14 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > Assuming this, here's a suggestion that I made in the past for
> > resolving this:
> >
> > * Make the existing `
50 minutes ago, Jay McCarthy wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > It all starts at how someone is expected to approach developing a
> > "package", regardless of how this is defined in the current
> > system. A quick way to get t
rth working on it or not.
(And I'm assuming that you're suggesting that that such a patch is
fine if it's possible to implement without me realizing on the way
some reasons against it.)
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specified in the package's toplevel
info.rkt file, which "pkg create" would check, but with a default of
non-"--root" this means changing existing repositories.
This is a relatively minor change, but I think that conceptually it
greatly simplifies things. One of the main problems I had with planet
is that it was too heavy for random users. The new system is
certainly lighter, but I think that such a change will make it
significantly more usable in that it's much closer to "just dump your
bunch of files on the web".
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ams) or (require 2htdp/image).
It could be simplified into some new simplified `require' that is
easier for kids -- like (use image).
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till use `:' instead of going back
to comments. (But it's obviously a weak point.)
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ow everything away and re-"git clone" for an automated
> build machine.
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Git doesn't track modification times
(intentionally), so a fresh clone should have all of the dates be the
same. If you update the tree (eg, if you checkout a different
branch), then files that were modified get a new date -- as usual.
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* The new *f functions can use only the sane order.
* And another thing that can be done to reduce the name clutter is to
have only the plain names, but make them accept either an index or a
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*f and the regular functions, so changing the require for a whole file
wouldn't be useful in general.
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> #lang racket2 ?
That is much later than I hoped.
(And when it comes, I certainly hope it won't be `racket2'.)
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
> It's no committed & pushed. With the bad argument
t to make them all require
(proper) lists.
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A few minutes ago, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
>Here's why I think it might be useless:
>
>For just `takef-right', it's possible to do something smart that
>scans the list in order, keeping a pointer to the beginning of
>the "current good block&
to make these functions work with
improper lists -- which is in-line with other questionable srfi-1
inheritance.)
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s...)
> It appears that module names are not indexed? Probably they should be?
They are already indexed, but it happens to be a very popular name so
there are tons of results before it. (Try searching for "stxparam" to
see that it works.)
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Four hours ago, mikel evins wrote:
>
> On Mar 6, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> >
> > Aha -- in that case, it seems that your image-based workflow is
> > not much different from working with just the sources *and* the
> > (byte-) compiled files that go
would be some scanner
that turns it into something that can, maybe adding some
representation layer on top of plain values. Making it work for
everything else (including required modules etc) that you can reach
from the namespace is probably "the only thing" that is needed...
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them too.
(Maybe I should do that now? It's a quick flip-of-a-symlink thing...)
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place in all pages, and some of them don't
have a version box.
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add1 x) (+ x 1.0))?)
And yes, I know that the way to address these things is in the process
-- organizing your snapshots etc -- but on the flip side of that you
have similar things that people use with source-code (like a
repository for source snapshots).
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A few minutes ago, mikel evins wrote:
>
> On Mar 5, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
> > An hour and a half ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
> >>
> >> I have empathy for your perspective, because I have worked with
> >> images and -- at the t
re useful than images.
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Two hours ago, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> Two hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> > The content column is wider than in the normal documentation
> > display. That makes line-spanning paragraphs a little less nice
> > to read, and it makes right-margin notes more likely to fall o
Two hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> At Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:36:54 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> >
> > * The layout should have the main column centered. (I thought that it
> > was fine initially if the left column is part of the contents.)
>
> That column alignme
Just now, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
> * The layout should have the main column centered. (I thought that
> it was fine initially if the left column is part of the contents.)
BTW, resolving this should happen at the CSS level, perhaps just
reorganizing them should make it work. But if no
Yesterday, Asumu Takikawa wrote:
> On 2013-02-26 09:53:11 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > I have finally implemented a script that hacks the on-line doc
> > pages. Currently, it does the following (and you can see the
> > changes on the web now):
>
> Maybe I'm mi
On Sunday, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> According to my rough count (and running setup with a "-j 1"),
> compiling `math' takes 40% of the whole tree compilation.
I'm surprised that nobody finds this disturbing. Maybe it was the
lack of bangs in the subject.
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A few minutes ago, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> At Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:16:13 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > Two hours ago, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > > I think that this should be reverted, and instead make the older
> > > docs more available: I'll make another column in t
According to my rough count (and running setup with a "-j 1"),
compiling `math' takes 40% of the whole tree compilation.
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The main problem is having a tweaked version of the pages on the
web -- which is needed, for example, since such a dropdown box would
make no sense for the documentation pages on your own installation.
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> I think that this should be reverted, and instead make the older
> docs more available: I'll make another column in the all-versions
> page (main page > download > all versions).
Done, now. See the new links on the all versions page, and
page (main page > download > all versions).
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An hour ago, Robby Findler wrote:
> Did someone let the EOPL folks know about this change, in case they
> want to check things over?
Yes, David okayed it, and I ran the tests too, just in case.
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sample you could share?
I'm not sure what exactly you're after, but you can get most of that
using a ,switch command to create a new namespace, then using it with
a "!" flag to reset it.
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er does that too.
(And otherwise, it should.)
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submod "." bar) [,bt for context]
I'm not sure about these, but IIRC, there was a similar question about
doing the same in drr.
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er!' being somewhat limited as they are now, and using a proper
meta tool when needed.
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t frankly, I don't get this.
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t; anybogusname.racket-lang.org
>
> Leads to a directory listing which contains only a link to
>
> http://anybogusname.racket-lang.org/il/
>
> … which looks accidental.
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ticularly important if it's going to send out
alerts when performance changes much.
And BTW, for performance, it would be nice to alert on all changes,
not just when it goes up...
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p://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/
> Conceptual/SoftwareDistribution4/SoftwareDistribution4.pdf
>
> (I believe this document is called "legacy" because of the mac app
> store; DrRacket cannot yet be distributed that way for technical
> reaso
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> Thanks. There was supposed to be a background image that points from
> one to the other.
(I think that on 10.4 the bg image is expected not to show...)
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>
> On Jan 19, 2013, at 1:47 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
>
> >> for more information and list your packages on the new index
> >> [https://pnr.racket-lang.org/]. We anticipate it will leave beta
> >> during the nex
something about how to get it, and where it can be useful.
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e this on for
now.
(The rest are done.)
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t;leave beta" thing sounds very confusing.
10 hours ago, Vincent St-Amour wrote:
>
> * Added `define-inline' which defines functions that are guaranteed
> to be inlined.
-1 to including this. (But I object to having it too.)
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racket-lang.org that has a user-oriented interface, which would
also free pnr.racket-lang.org to be something more machine friendly
and more cryptic.
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latively easy to resolve, but I think that it's
an indication of an infrastructure that is not yet ready to be
released as is.)
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gt; Do you have any ideas for a solution to this?
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On Jan 6, 2013 1:27 PM, "Matthew Flatt" wrote:
> At Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:42:52 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > Yesterday, Matthew Flatt wrote:
> > > I have been thinking about how developers who build their own Racket
> > > are more likely to want installation-
dependency graphs which will cause huge problems when
trying to get to a small core.
(/me does an image query for "repent".)
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le), I think that it's best to have the same default for all
setups, and use an installation-wide installs by default only when
asked explicitly.
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I think that there is a point in keeping the colors so it would be best to
have some indication of comment-ness that gets added, like a different
background.
On Dec 27, 2012 10:48 PM, "Matthias Felleisen" wrote:
>
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Robby Findler wrote:
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> it would be best if they tu
ed, but they're the
| ones currently available. I'll add your description of a new type
| of permissions as a feature request, and show the team.
I didn't hear anything else about it, so I don't know if they'll add
it or not. Feel free to nag the
sibility of old code breaking...
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20 minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Neil Toronto wrote:
> >
> > On 12/16/2012 06:41 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> >>
> >> 10 minutes ago, Neil Toronto wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think I'd rather have
the default without consulting some potential web standard gurus.
So?
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10 minutes ago, Neil Toronto wrote:
> On 12/16/2012 05:58 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > 20 minutes ago, Neil Toronto wrote:
> >> I got this email from DrDr after I added `typed/plot'. The error:
> >> []
> >
> > BTW, I did point out the failure when
The bigger question is the actual ownership: since that code is
clearly yours, it is much better to keep it in your code. This will
also simplify things later when you have a single directory for your
package rather than a bunch of files.
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