Re: [racket-dev] package-system update

2013-07-14 Thread Jay McCarthy
See below Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > First, thanks for the very informative update. > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Matthew Flatt wrote: >> [Guess:] The "Racket" and "Minimal Racket" distributions might point >> to different pre-built pac

Re: [racket-dev] Why did DrDr get much slower?

2013-07-13 Thread Jay McCarthy
lowdown is indeed at the revision where `filesystem-change-evt` > was introduced, at least on my Linux x64 machine. > > Sam > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young Univer

Re: [racket-dev] Package compatibility

2013-07-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
8, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > Yesterday, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> Planet attempts to solve this problem technically by (a) having all >> collections be prefixed by / and (b) mandating >> a centralized server that enforces unique s and unique >> s per

Re: [racket-dev] Package compatibility

2013-07-07 Thread Jay McCarthy
r packages will be tested with DrDr and we'll build their documentation and include it on the main site. Jay > Carl Eastlund > > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev > -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University

Re: [racket-dev] What command should DrDr run by default?

2013-07-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
gt;>> >> >>> >> which appears to be successful, even though running `racket` on that >>> >> file would have shown the error that I fixed in >>> >> https://github.com/plt/racket/commit/a4e529a816 . These tests are a >>> >> pa

Re: [racket-dev] sgl collection

2013-06-30 Thread Jay McCarthy
oks seem to use 3.x). > > Stephen Bloch > sbl...@adelphi.edu > > > > > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev > -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "

Re: [racket-dev] Package management

2013-06-30 Thread Jay McCarthy
http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] release 5.3.5

2013-06-15 Thread Jay McCarthy
single collection >> >> collects/realm/ >> >> to the v5.3.4 release. The new collection contains the source >> code that readers of Realm may wish to use for experiments. >> >> >> Comments welcome. -- Matthias >>

Re: [racket-dev] experience using the `pkg` branch

2013-06-14 Thread Jay McCarthy
rth all this nitpicking if it weren't > a great system; we've come a long way from distributing source code via > ".plt" files, to having something worth using to bundle up our core > software. > > Carl Eastlund > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jay McCar

Re: [racket-dev] experience using the `pkg` branch

2013-06-14 Thread Jay McCarthy
r, you don't need to tell the package system at all, you just run 'raco setup' (with no arguments so it runs on everything) again. -- Given that I think we can't enforce higher standards technically, my goal has been to enforce standard (2) with the concept of ring-0 packag

Re: [racket-dev] experience using the `pkg` branch

2013-06-14 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt >> wrote: >>> * The error message when you look for a missing collection is really >>> l

Re: [racket-dev] experience using the `pkg` branch

2013-06-14 Thread Jay McCarthy
ectory, e.g., > > /var/tmp/pkg13711534991371153499937/future-visualizer/info.rkt > > (assuming that the package's name was future-visualizer) that might have > been a useful clue. > > Robby > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Jay McCarthy > wrote: &

Re: [racket-dev] experience using the `pkg` branch

2013-06-13 Thread Jay McCarthy
/tmp/pkg-racket/racket/lib/collects/setup/getinfo.rkt:33:0 >/home/samth/tmp/pkg-racket/racket/lib/collects/pkg/lib.rkt:1274:0: > pkg-single-collection85 Are there other examples? This stack trace is useful to just put a with-handlers at the right spot. > Other errors are also hard to tra

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-07 Thread Jay McCarthy
rm hasn't been > introduced yet. 6.1.2 starts talking about library collections, and > says "A collection is a set of installed library modules". But it > doesn't say "modules only in the same directory", and it doesn't > really explain at what point it w

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Laurent wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt >> wrote: >> > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Matthew Flatt >> > wrote: &g

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> >>> I am *very* strongly in favor of this -- I'd rather have >>> single-collection packages than multi-collection packages, if forced >>&

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
menting it internally, etc. Obviously you can still deal with those things, but if the path of evolution we imagine starts off with single-package-with-package/collection-name-shared, then most packaged collections will have a package as their name. Jay -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor

Re: [racket-dev] updated proposal for moving to packages

2013-06-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
mented them, yet. > > Complete enforcement would require some sort of dynamic check to > constrain access from code from a given package. That seems tricky at > best, and it's probably more than we need in practice. Matthew and I also once talked about have raco (make|setup) know

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-03 Thread Jay McCarthy
that when it installs it in the >> > installed-package-directory-that-I-will-not-look-into it generates a >> > tree >> > like the second one. >> > >> > Well, the reason I think that plain collection packages are >> > important >> > is it w

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-03 Thread Jay McCarthy
Oh, and test cases would go here: https://github.com/plt/racket/blob/master/collects/tests/pkg/tests-create.rkt and https://github.com/plt/racket/blob/master/collects/tests/pkg/tests-install.rkt On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Jay McCarthy wrote: > You would need to update the metad

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-05-30 Thread Jay McCarthy
f a directory > for the package that has the same name as the collection it contains? > > Laurent > > > _____ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev > -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Youn

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages

2013-05-21 Thread Jay McCarthy
than to understand the tools >>> and help improve them. >>> >> >> +inf.0 >> >> Though the easiest way to make the source available is just to keep it >> in the distribution. I'll be sad to see it go. >> >> -Jon >> _

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages

2013-05-21 Thread Jay McCarthy
th the material they need (and not the stuff they don't... like textbooks in German.) Jay > > Just my 0.1 cents. > > Best, > António. > > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev > -- Jay McCarthy Assistant

Re: [racket-dev] Package system quickstart section?

2013-05-12 Thread Jay McCarthy
oth the "raco pkg" and "planet2" links go to /planet2/* and 404. > (Plus it sounds like the second, topic link should be labeled > something other than "planet2", such as "pkg" or "Package > Management".) > > > On Sun, May 12, 2013

Re: [racket-dev] Package system quickstart section?

2013-05-12 Thread Jay McCarthy
tually under http://docs.racket-lang.org/pkg/* ? > > e.g.: > http://docs.racket-lang.org/planet2/Package_Concepts.html => 404 > http://docs.racket-lang.org/pkg/Package_Concepts.html=> OK. > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> There c

[racket-dev] bitmap-dc% ignores alpha on set-pixel

2013-05-10 Thread Jay McCarthy
bytes-ref b 3) +(/ (bytes-ref b 0) 255)) (and (<= 0 x w) (<= 0 y h) (define/public (set-argb-pixels x y w h bstr -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God i

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] Explicitly rerouting web-server requests to filesystem server

2013-05-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
itle, ∑body, and ∑comments would be interpreted as expressions in the > current lexical context. > > > > > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> >> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Matthew Butterick >> wrote: >> > The docs for web-s

Re: [racket-dev] Package system quickstart section?

2013-05-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
t; install a package from typical sources. Maybe screenshots showing how to > use the package GUI. > > [1]: http://docs.racket-lang.org/planet2/Package_Concepts.html > > Cheers, > Asumu > _____ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racke

Re: [racket-dev] `configure-runtime' submodule

2013-05-07 Thread Jay McCarthy
acro). Does that mean that if it *is* under a begin or introduced by a maco, it will be appended like module+ or will it be a conflict? Jay -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 ___

Re: [racket-dev] else clauses: possible change to match?

2013-05-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
tense. Jay On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Robby Findler wrote: > > > On Monday, May 6, 2013, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Matthew Flatt wrote: >> > At Mon, 6 May 2013 07:02:47 -0600, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> >> On Mon, May

Re: [racket-dev] else clauses: possible change to match?

2013-05-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Matthew Flatt wrote: > At Mon, 6 May 2013 07:02:47 -0600, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Matthew Flatt wrote: >> >> 3. And a side-comment: I hope that there will be something better >> >>t

Re: [racket-dev] else clauses: possible change to match?

2013-05-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
these versions would just be about hiding some bindings, but it lays the framework for more exhaustive changes. I think it would be easy to maintain these, because most deltas are small. But as they become more complex and less used, we can spin them out to packages to keep the main repo clean. Jay --

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.3.4

2013-04-18 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Ryan Culpepper wrote: > * Jay McCarthy > - Web Server Tests > - XML Tests > - HTML Tests > - PLAI Tests > - Racklog tests > - Datalog tests All passed -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://fa

Re: [racket-dev] Packages

2013-04-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
--root" this means changing existing repositories. I agree with Matthew & Matthias regarding patches and this. > This is a relatively minor change, but I think that conceptually it > greatly simplifies things. I cannot tell if you are talking about the change to "raco pkg create" or the change to get rid of collection root packages in general. If you are referring to the second, I disagree because while "simplifying" things, it makes other things (like installing into existing collections) impossible. That's not a fair trade. > One of the main problems I had with planet > is that it was too heavy for random users. The new system is > certainly lighter, but I think that such a change will make it > significantly more usable in that it's much closer to "just dump your > bunch of files on the web". I wish I understood why mkdir bar scp -r bar public_html: is simpler than mkdir -p foo/bar scp -r foo public_html: The current system is *just dump your bunch of files on the web* after /picking a name for your package/. I don't understand why you wouldn't expect that you have to pick a name. I really do wish I understood why. Maybe you could email me personally with the directory structure you find so difficult to adapt into this, so I could appreciate your problem more directly. Jay -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Fix to module reader?

2013-04-03 Thread Jay McCarthy
.2/collects/raco/main.rkt: [running body] > > > > > My proposed patch is: > > > https://github.com/dyoo/racket/commit/9322570e3e0210b99ec8a85dca52b62b4dde66fd > > > > > Does this look ok? Also, if I do push this upstream, how do I attach > my test file so it gets run as part of t

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26497: master branch updated

2013-03-22 Thread Jay McCarthy
00 > "collects/tests/scribble" responsible (eli mflatt) > "collects/tests/scribble/main.rkt" drdr:command-line #f > > collects/tests/eli-tester.rkt > ~ > --- OLD/collects/tests/eli-tester.rkt > +++ NEW/collects/tests/eli-tester.rkt >

[racket-dev] Trends in Functional Programming 2013: 3rd Call for Papers

2013-03-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
lease contact the TFP 2013 program chair, Jay McCarthy, at tfp2013 at easychair.org BEST STUDENT PAPER AWARD TFP traditionally pays special attention to research students, acknowledging that students are almost by definition part of new subject trends. A student paper i

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26313: master branch updated

2013-03-04 Thread Jay McCarthy
ollapsed, then > ;; no section is nearly the top > @@ -640,7 +635,7 @@ > "???") > (element-content p)) >

Re: [racket-dev] A standard for testing Racket's libraries?

2013-02-28 Thread Jay McCarthy
uld look at it. Maybe when the majority of the core are packages that express their dependencies you could run the things that depend on what you are changing, but even then I doubt you should be willing to do that. Jay -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] datalog tests failing on HEAD?

2013-02-27 Thread Jay McCarthy
ren-examples/path.rkt" > raco test: "./paren-examples/pq.rkt" > raco test: "./paren-examples/req.rkt" > raco test: "./paren-examples/revpath.rkt" > raco test: "./paren-examples/says.rkt" > raco test: "./paren-examples/sym.rkt&quo

Re: [racket-dev] Scribble: feature request - module paths for image

2013-02-15 Thread Jay McCarthy
tion doesn't help me because I need to reference module > locations that are not in the main collection.) > > David > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http

Re: [racket-dev] raco pkg remove needs to state package dependencies

2013-02-13 Thread Jay McCarthy
pendencies: >ragg > > The error message needs to say which package is depending on what > other packages. Otherwise, the user is forced to manually search for > which package is causing the problem. -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.c

Re: [racket-dev] raco pkg and github

2013-02-05 Thread Jay McCarthy
Thanks for finding that out. I just pushed this change (with a test) Jay On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jens Axel Søgaard wrote: > 2013/2/1 Asumu Takikawa : >> On 2013-02-01 06:23:06 -0700, Jay McCarthy wrote: >>> I had originally tried to do that, but Github wasn't prov

Re: [racket-dev] Running in DrRacket changes behavior of the `compiler/cm` library

2013-02-04 Thread Jay McCarthy
t; raco setup: 3 making: >>> /Users/dyoo/Library/Racket/5.3.2/pkgs/installed/sxml/sxml/scribblings >>> raco setup: 3 making: >>> /Users/dyoo/Library/Racket/5.3.2/pkgs/installed/sxml/sxml/ssax (ssax) >>> raco setup: --- updating info-domain tables --- >>> raco setup: updating: /info-domain/compiled/cache.rktd >>> raco setup: --- creating launchers --- >>> raco setup: --- building documentation --- >>> link: bad variable linkage; >>> reference to a variable that has the wrong procedure or structure-type >>> shape >>> reference phase level: 0 >>> variable module: "/Applications/Racket >>> v5.3.2/collects/syntax/location.rkt" >>> variable phase: 0 >>> reference in module: "/Applications/Racket >>> v5.3.2/collects/racket/date.rkt" in: module-name-fixup >>> --- >>> >>> >>> At this point forward, I think the following is happening: it appears >>> that once this happens, things are completely hosed because DrRacket >>> is somehow loading both DrRacket-specific bytecode for some modules, >>> and others with the standard bytecode. The mix leads to the linkage >>> errors. >>> >>> Does this explanation sound plausible? >> >> > > > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev > -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Running in DrRacket changes behavior of the `compiler/cm` library

2013-02-04 Thread Jay McCarthy
ions could be installed? If not, then never mind, and I can > leave the directory list as it stands. > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~j

Re: [racket-dev] raco pkg and github

2013-02-01 Thread Jay McCarthy
ached is a hackish patch that just demonstrates that this is do-able. > As an example, you can try `raco pkg install sweet-exp`, which will > install commit fbd09b4be38b rather than the current github HEAD. > > Cheers, > Asumu > > _____ > Racket Devel

Re: [racket-dev] Installing Optimization Coach broke Racket's reader

2013-02-01 Thread Jay McCarthy
#(struct:srcloc >>> # 502 32 >>> 21905 120)) >>> (call-with-break-parameterization . #(struct:srcloc >>> # 146 2 >>> 4832 517)) >>> (loop . #(struct:srcloc >>> # 397 18 >>> 17838 540)) >>> >>> But DrRacke

Re: [racket-dev] http vs https urls for pnr.racket-lang.org

2013-01-24 Thread Jay McCarthy
ndancy if this is already on a todo list for the > release somewhere. > > > _____ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev > -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glo

Re: [racket-dev] Release Announcement for v5.3.2

2013-01-23 Thread Jay McCarthy
h I'm happy to commit, but we should make `pkg.racket-lang.org` > work first. > > Sam > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Robby Findler > wrote: >> Matches to 'raco pkg', which seems good to me. >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Jay

Re: [racket-dev] attacks on the plt web server?

2013-01-23 Thread Jay McCarthy
(-> >bytes? >url? >(listof header?) >(promise/c (listof binding?)) >(or/c #f bytes?) >string? >number? >string? > request?) > contract from: > /web-server/http/request-structs.rkt >

Re: [racket-dev] Documentation lacuna?

2013-01-22 Thread Jay McCarthy
I've pushed this change: http://git.racket-lang.org/plt/commitdiff/d071dc43873b7e84a59e3c9df47a6c8b3f7c6b1d?hp=7b33298b6654bcd55105e24e99545b98db3206ba Jay On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Norman Gray wrote: > > Jay, hello. > > On 2013 Jan 21, at 16:12, Jay McCarthy wr

Re: [racket-dev] Documentation lacuna?

2013-01-21 Thread Jay McCarthy
t the server will automatically add a Content-Type header if one is > not present. > > That is, one can produce the correct behaviour here, even though the > documentation seems to suggest that no-body responses will be problematic. > > Best wishes, > > Norman > > > --

Re: [racket-dev] no-cache the default web-server index.html

2013-01-21 Thread Jay McCarthy
refox on Linux) is caching that page, and it'd be > nice for new users not to stumble and have to do a manual refresh. > > Thanks, > Dave > _________ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor /

Re: [racket-dev] Release Announcement for v5.3.2

2013-01-18 Thread Jay McCarthy
I don't, but if we are renaming, I like brevity like "pkg" Jay On Friday, January 18, 2013, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Jay McCarthy > > > wrote: > > list your packages on the new index > > [https://pnr.racket-lang.or

Re: [racket-dev] Release Announcement for v5.3.2

2013-01-18 Thread Jay McCarthy
The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. > The certificate is not valid for any server names. > > (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev > -- Jay McCarthy Assis

[racket-dev] Trends in Functional Programming 2013: 2nd Call for Papers

2013-01-18 Thread Jay McCarthy
lease contact the TFP 2013 program chair, Jay McCarthy, at tfp2013 at easychair.org BEST STUDENT PAPER AWARD TFP traditionally pays special attention to research students, acknowledging that students are almost by definition part of new subject trends. A student paper i

Re: [racket-dev] Release Announcement for v5.3.2

2013-01-18 Thread Jay McCarthy
tion and package, in addition to by directory and file, with the "-c" and "-p" options. Jay -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Rack

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.3.2

2013-01-17 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Ryan Culpepper wrote: > * Jay McCarthy > - Web Server Tests > - XML Tests > - HTML Tests > - PLAI Tests > - Racklog tests > - Datalog tests All passed Jay -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http

Re: [racket-dev] more planet2 feedback

2013-01-10 Thread Jay McCarthy
he web application because it's the result of a stack trace, rather > than the result of constraints on the form elements on the submission > page. Though the error message does correctly mention that it's the > 'name' that is at fault, still the mechanism for reporting the error > is fairly indistinguishable from any other internal error in a > web-servlet. -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Planet2 urls

2013-01-09 Thread Jay McCarthy
be resolved by making a > pkg.racket-lang.org that has a user-oriented interface, which would > also free pnr.racket-lang.org to be something more machine friendly > and more cryptic. > > -- > ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: >

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26024: master branch updated

2013-01-07 Thread Jay McCarthy
each of the HTTP methods, in that case -- people might be less > confused by that than strings. > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> The programmer's input is not a string. It is a match pattern, so you can >> use 'or', '_'

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26024: master branch updated

2013-01-04 Thread Jay McCarthy
Commit ]= > > Directory summary: > > 100.0% collects/web-server/scribblings/ > > > > ~~ > > > > c07ff94 Jay McCarthy 2013-01-04 05:44 > > : > > | Fixes PR13406 > > : > > M collec

Re: [racket-dev] Attempted clarification for planet2 docs

2013-01-03 Thread Jay McCarthy
and library name, and so I added a sentence to explicitly note > that `require' lines don't refer to packages. Then again, it also > seemed worth nothing that a package will often supply a collection > whose name matches the package. > > At Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:03:45

Re: [racket-dev] Attempted clarification for planet2 docs

2013-01-02 Thread Jay McCarthy
s not add any > baggage to require lines. > > Carl Eastlund > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: > >> I agree in that context that it is useful as a part of the "What's >> different about Planet 2?" And it's there (question 6).

Re: [racket-dev] Attempted clarification for planet2 docs

2013-01-02 Thread Jay McCarthy
quire forms, and that's just during > discussions -- I haven't even been writing code with them yet. Clarifying > that Planet2 simplifies the require lines, and makes user packages on a > peer level with built-in collections, is a useful thing to put early on in > the Planet2 docs

Re: [racket-dev] Attempted clarification for planet2 docs

2013-01-02 Thread Jay McCarthy
t; +@section{Managing Packages} > + > + > The Racket package manager has two user interfaces: a command line > @exec{raco} > sub-command and a library. They have the exact same capabilities, as > the command line interface invokes the library functions and > -- > 1.7.

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #25931: master branch updated

2012-12-21 Thread Jay McCarthy
> 0e140a8 Matthew Flatt 2012-12-20 11:07 >> : >> | planet2: versions for dependencies >> [...] >> >> 5259f15 Matthew Flatt 2012-12-20 12:05 >> : >> | planet2: include the Racket version number in a PNR request > > _ >

Re: [racket-dev] first and rest in racket/base

2012-12-13 Thread Jay McCarthy
ed patch implements that change. >> > >> > Does this sound reasonable? >> >> -- >> ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: >> http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life!

Re: [racket-dev] planet2 and versions

2012-12-13 Thread Jay McCarthy
es importing the > library would produce an error message telling you the same. > > Do these use cases make sense? (I'd like to hear about library developer > use cases, but I have no experience there) > > Thanks, > Dave > > _ > Racket Develope

Re: [racket-dev] planet2 and versions

2012-12-13 Thread Jay McCarthy
w.r.t Planet 2 dealt with multiple versions, real dependency on the core (which P1 didn't have), actual enforcement of public/private modules (something discussed on IRC yesterday), etc, and everyone hated that and said they wanted something simpler like what OSes give. Now we have that and peo

Re: [racket-dev] planet2 and versions

2012-12-13 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ryan Culpepper wrote: > On 12/12/2012 03:58 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> >> I agree with Carl. >> >> But I would make an even stronger suggestion, I would suggest that you >> completely drop support for old Racket versions and if

Re: [racket-dev] planet2 and versions

2012-12-12 Thread Jay McCarthy
t;webapis2". And suppose there's another >> package (let's call it "scriblogify") that depends on "webapis". If that >> code wants to use "webapis2", that's a dependency change, so it would have >> to be released as "scriblogify2". There'

Re: [racket-dev] [DrDr] R25887 (timeout 1) (unclean 1) (stderr 1) (changes 64)

2012-12-12 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt >> wrote: >>> The Typed Racket optimizer tests continue to fail on an intermittent >>> ba

Re: [racket-dev] [DrDr] R25887 (timeout 1) (unclean 1) (stderr 1) (changes 64)

2012-12-12 Thread Jay McCarthy
ang.org/25887/ >> >> A file you are responsible for has a condition that may need inspecting. >> unclean: >> http://drdr.racket-lang.org/25887/collects/tests/typed-racket/run.rkt >> >> stderr: >> http://drdr.racket-lang.org/25887/collects/tests

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 default package name services

2012-12-12 Thread Jay McCarthy
g.org for plt-etc.byu.edu:9003 and > legacy.planet2.racket-lang.org for ...:9004, or something like that? That > would be more intuitive for anyone looking at the URLs, and flexible in case > we decide to move the hosting at a later date. > > Carl Eastlund > -- Jay McCarthy Ass

Re: [racket-dev] planet2

2012-12-10 Thread Jay McCarthy
lthough I wrote it, I'm not attached to these particular bike shed colours. I'd rather rename things to keep the wa than fight about why one analogy is good and one analogy is bad. All the names you've mentioned have been given new labels from my first prototypes, and if people would like to submit patches to rename things that others like, I won't stand in the way. Jay -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-12-09 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Jay McCarthy > wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > >> > >> 30 minutes ago, Jay McCarthy wrote: > >> > On Sat, Dec

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-12-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > 30 minutes ago, Jay McCarthy wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > > > > > One other thing that I think is important in a migration path is > > > keeping any modification m

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-12-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
same place. However, I thought the whole premise of this proposed behavior is that the package won't work in the new version of Racket, so certainly the package system can't be responsible for doing a merge your local changes and whatever the updated version of the package needs. Jay --

[racket-dev] We just had our first totally clean build in DrDr in a long time

2012-12-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
We should get one of those signs like in factories: X days accident free. -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.r

Re: [racket-dev] Two pull requests (Markdown render for Scribble, and XREPL , log udpate)

2012-12-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
30519 is > generated from the same .scrbl source as the HTML at > > http://planet.racket-lang.org/package-source/gh/aws.plt/1/4/planet-docs/manual/index.html > . > _____ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev > -- Jay McCart

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #25860: master branch updated

2012-12-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
Ah ya, I guess I meant the "common" sub-dir. In any case, I think that Neil won't be comparing Racket vs something, but just measuring the performance of a piece of Racket Jay On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Jay

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #25860: master branch updated

2012-12-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
ble. I think you are talking about a stress test, which can be used to monitor Racket's performance against itself in the future to catch regressions. That's in tests/racket/stress. Jay -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #25860: master branch updated

2012-12-06 Thread Jay McCarthy
ause DrDr is late testing this push and I'm anxious > to know whether my changes work... DrDr appears to be stuck building on the > push before mine. It's at 4.39 hours now. > > Neil ⊥ > > > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket

Re: [racket-dev] Other PLaneT 2 questions

2012-12-04 Thread Jay McCarthy
normal package source link. The future plans discusses these issues. There are other issues, like the fact that packages can have arbitrary numbers of Scribble files, so there's not just one link, in any case. My plan is for DrDr-built packages to have their documentation kept and published at

Re: [racket-dev] Quick feedback on first planet2 experience

2012-12-03 Thread Jay McCarthy
w packages and https://plt-etc.byu.edu:9003 for automatically generated packages for old PLaneT packages." > - "dependencies on thar packages" in Package Metadata docs. Fixed > - "This categories will" in Future Plans docs. Fixed Jay -- J

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 package names

2012-12-03 Thread Jay McCarthy
On the second point, I think it may be a good idea to disallow upper case. I presume that Eli and Matthew would have good recommendations about this? Jay On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Carl Eastlund wrote: > Yay! > > Carl Eastlund > > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 package names

2012-12-03 Thread Jay McCarthy
dows and Unix don't break on Mac due to package names conflicting on the > filesystem. > > Carl Eastlund > > _____ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev > -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young Univers

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-12-01 Thread Jay McCarthy
stuff that was installed only for some other package. > > (But perhaps this is what you talk about with that `migrate' command. > If so, then this is just a verbose +1.) > > -- > ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: > http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-12-01 Thread Jay McCarthy
less worried about Racket versions breaking installed packages than Matthew. I don't think it is that common for core changes to break things and when it does happen, P2 is designed to easily allow you to upgrade all your packages to the latest versions, something that was very inconvenient wi

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-11-29 Thread Jay McCarthy
their own sets of packages for deployments, etc. Jay > > Cheers, > Asumu > _ > Racket Developers list: > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] [DrDr] R25724 (timeout 0) (unclean 6470) (stderr 6470) (changes 6471)

2012-11-20 Thread Jay McCarthy
There was a strange time error with this commit and I've told DrDr to re-test it. Jay On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:16 PM, wrote: > DrDr has finished building push #25724 after 2.61h. > > http://drdr.racket-lang.org/25724/ > _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket

Re: [racket-dev] Math library pushed

2012-11-17 Thread Jay McCarthy
gt; > (parameterize ([bf-precision 8192]) > pi.bf) > > Then reply with the last four digits printed. They should be "4888". If the > program doesn't run because Racket can't load libmpfr, it's an opportunity > to test the documentation. Please see if I&#x

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-11-12 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Robby Findler > wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >>>> On

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-11-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
without > having to go type at command lines and whatnot. (This is especially > true for Windows, the platform something like 95% of our users use.) > > Robby > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt > wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Jay McCarthy

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-11-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
ns > without getting banned from solar > > What made me also wonder when i read the docs is, why is it allowed to > have packets that have the same directories as the core racket distribution? > > Tobias > > > > On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:16:58 +0100, Jay McCarthy > w

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-11-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > 30 minutes ago, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> > IIUC, the branch in the path is required, is that the case? If >> > so, then I think that it should really work without it too, to get >> > the simple https://github.com/

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-11-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > 20 minutes ago, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> > * I think tying to GitHub is a mistake -- the system should work >> > for for arbitrary Git repositories. Having a short syntax for >> > github is great, though. Addition

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-11-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
out some certificate, > then making them is easy.) > > >> * I thought the conclusion of a recent discussion on dev@ was that >> tests, typed, etc sub-collections *are* preferred. > > Yes -- I said that, with the strong preference for projects being a > self-contained dire

Re: [racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

2012-11-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Jay McCarthy wrote: >> Now that the 5.3.1 release is finished, I've just pushed the beta release of >> Planet 2 to the Racket core. > > Here, as promised, more detailed but s

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