Besides the traffic eventual issue, I don't believe that it would benefit
users to get a standalone site. Some great answers are provided by users
that aren't spark experts but maybe java, python, aws or even some system
experts why do we want to play alone ?
We are trying nevertheless the
To: assaf.mendelson; dev@spark.apache.org
Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing lists
Here's a view into the requirements, for example:
http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/76571/emacs<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__area51.stackexchange.com_proposals_76571_em
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I don't think there's nearly enough traffic to sustain a stand-alone SE. I
helped mod the Data Science SE and it's still not technically
I don't think there's nearly enough traffic to sustain a stand-alone SE. I
helped mod the Data Science SE and it's still not technically critical mass
after 2 years. It would just fracture the discussion to yet another place.
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Awesome stuff! Thanks Sean! :-)
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 05:57 Sean Owen <[hidden
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I updated the wiki to point to the /c
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Hey Reynold,
Looks like we all of the proposed changes into Proposed Community Mailing
Lists / StackOverflow Changes
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Hey Reynold,
Looks like we all of the proposed changes into Proposed Community Mailing Lists
/ StackOverflow
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> Agreed that by simply j
ot sure this is a good fit.
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> Assaf.
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> *From:* Denny Lee [via Apache Spark Developers List] [mailto:ml-node+[hidden
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:54 AM
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ty should answer and hard questions which only advanced users
> can answer.
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>
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> Maybe SO isn’t the correct platform for that but even within it we can
> try to find a non meta name for spark beginner questions vs. spark
> advanced questions.
>
> Assaf.
>
>
ally to fix that.
> >>
> >> For example, we might say that mailing list A is only for voting,
> mailing
> >> list B is only for PR and have something like stack overflow for
> developer
> >> questions (I would even go as far as to have beginner, i
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > There's already reviews@ and issues@. dev@ is for project
>>>>>>> development itself
>>>>>>> > and I think is OK. You're suggesting splitting up user@ and I
>>>>>>> sympathize
>>>
Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing lists
Agreed that by simply just moving the questions to SO will not solve anything
but I think the call out about the meta-tags is that we need to abide by SO
rules and if we were to just jump in and start creating meta-tags, we would be
violating
it we can try
> to find a non meta name for spark beginner questions vs. spark advanced
> questions.
>
> Assaf.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Denny Lee [via Apache Spark Developers List] [mailto:ml-node+[hidden
> email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node=19798=0&
maybe
>> advanced ones) but more for dev questions. It is so easy to get lost in the
>> chatter that it makes it very hard for people to learn spark internals…
>>
>> Assaf.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Sean Owen [mailto:[hidden
>> email]]
>> Sent: Wed
he main issue is not user questions (except maybe
>> advanced ones) but more for dev questions. It is so easy to get lost in the
>> chatter that it makes it very hard for people to learn spark internals…
>>
>> Assaf.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Sean Owen [mailto:so
at mailing list A is only for voting,
> mailing
> >> list B is only for PR and have something like stack overflow for
> developer
> >> questions (I would even go as far as to have beginner, intermediate and
> >> advanced mailing list for users and beginner/advanced for
(I would even go as far as to
>>> have beginner, intermediate and
>>> >> advanced mailing list for users and
>>> beginner/advanced for dev).
>>> >>
>>>
hat committers for example can
> look at advanced only tag and have a manageable number of questions they
> can help with while others can answer medium and basic.
>
>
>
> I agree that some things are not good for SO. Basically stuff which asks
> for opinion is such but most cases in
per SO
rules.
From: Matei Zaharia [mailto:matei.zaha...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 November 2016 07:45
To: assaf.mendelson
Cc: dev@spark.apache.org
Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing lists
Even for the mailing list, I'd love to have a short set of instructions on how
to submit your quest
t;
>
>
>
> From: rxin [via Apache Spark Developers List] [mailto:ml-node+[hidden email]
> ]
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 8:33 AM
> To: Mendelson, Assaf
> Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing lists
>
>
>
> This is an excellent point. If
advanced@ to
>>>>>> > get attention, and we'll be back where we started. Putting it in
>>>>>> JIRA
>>>>>> > doesn't help. I don't think this a problem that is merely down to
>>>>>> lack of
>>>>>> > proces
>>
>> >> This can easily be done using stack overflow
>> tags, however, that would
>> >> probably be harder to manage.
>>
>>
> >> Anyway as I said, the main issue is not user
> questions (except maybe
> >> advanced ones) but more for dev questions. It is so
> easy to get lost in the
> >> ch
ow for
>>>> developer
>>>> >> questions (I would even go as far as to have beginner, intermediate
>>>> and
>>>> >> advanced mailing list for users and beginner/advanced for dev).
>>>> >>
>>>> >&
and beginner/advanced for dev).
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> This can easily be done using stack overflow tags, however, that would
>>> >> probably be harder to manage.
>>> >>
>>> >> Maybe using speci
probably be harder to manage.
> >>
> >> Maybe using special jira tags and manage it in jira?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyway as I said, the main issue is not user questions (except maybe
> >> advanced ones) but more for dev questions. It is
>> advanced ones) but more for dev questions. It is so easy to get lost in
> the
> >> chatter that it makes it very hard for people to learn spark internals…
> >>
> >> Assaf.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Sean Owen [mailto:so...@cloudera.com
people to learn spark internals…
>>
>> Assaf.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Sean Owen [mailto:so...@cloudera.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:07 PM
>> To: Mendelson, Assaf; dev@spark.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Handling questions in
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:07 PM
> *To:* Mendelson, Assaf; dev@spark.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Handling questions in the mailing lists
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>
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> I think that unfortunately mailing lists don't scale well. This one has
> thousands of subscribers with different
questions. It is so easy to get lost in the chatter that
it makes it very hard for people to learn spark internals…
Assaf.
From: Sean Owen [mailto:so...@cloudera.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:07 PM
To: Mendelson, Assaf; dev@spark.apache.org
Subject: Re: Handling questions in the mailing
I think that unfortunately mailing lists don't scale well. This one has
thousands of subscribers with different interests and levels of experience.
For any given person, most messages will be irrelevant. I also find that a
lot of questions on user@ are not well-asked, aren't an SSCCE (
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