Re: Secure contexts required for new web platform features

2015-07-01 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 7/1/15 2:49 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: Platform. There was no strong opposition to the Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP thread and in Whistler everyone attending the deprecating non-secure HTTP session agreed. Do you think this needs to be approached differently? Yes. Because taken at

Re: Secure contexts required for new web platform features

2015-07-01 Thread Anne van Kesteren
I'll leave some of your points/questions for Richard. On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: We add lots of features without such Intent threads all the time. Just FYI. I hope that we can get somewhat better on this. It is rather useful to have a somewhat large

Re: I was put XBL under customized protocol but not works properly, how to fix it?

2015-07-01 Thread Bobby Holley
[1] Will explain what's probably tripping you up, though I doubt anyone has tried with app:// URIs before. [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_Remote_XUL On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:48 AM, 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) luoyongg...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any flag I need to setting up? For

Re: web-platform-tests on debug builds running on try

2015-07-01 Thread Ryan VanderMeulen
On 6/30/2015 7:35 PM, James Graham wrote: Web-platform-tests are now running in debug builds on try only. However due to some teething problems, they are not currently all green. This is expected to be fixed in the next 24 hours but, in the meantime, if you see some orange that seems unrelated

Re: Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)

2015-07-01 Thread Robert O'Callahan
So tables and flexbox will be fixed in 41 too? Congratulations on nearing the end of such a long and difficult project! Rob -- oIo otoeololo oyooouo otohoaoto oaonoyooonoeo owohooo oioso oaonogoroyo owoiotoho oao oboroootohoeoro oooro osoiosotoeoro owoiololo oboeo osouobojoeocoto otooo

Re: Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)

2015-07-01 Thread Jonathan Kew
On 1/7/15 11:21, Robert O'Callahan wrote: So tables and flexbox will be fixed in 41 too? Both of them are largely working in 41 at this point; I believe they're usable for most common use-cases. For tables, the main limitation is that caption is not yet placed correctly; that should follow

Re: Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)

2015-07-01 Thread Jonathan Kew
On 1/7/15 13:06, Sebastian Zartner wrote: CSS Logical Properties Level 1 doesn't even in WD status yet. Therefore I assume everything in there can still change fundamentally. So are you sure logical properties should be shipped already? Could the writing mode features perhaps be shipped

Re: mozilla::TemporaryRef is gone; please use already_AddRefed

2015-07-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Joshua Cranmer  pidgeo...@gmail.com wrote: You'd get the same benefit, I think, by making operator T*() = delete;, syntax which is accepted on gcc 4.8.1+, clang, and MSVC 2015 IIRC. I once tried this and found it had problematic side effects that made

Re: Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)

2015-07-01 Thread Sebastian Zartner
CSS Logical Properties Level 1 doesn't even in WD status yet. Therefore I assume everything in there can still change fundamentally. So are you sure logical properties should be shipped already? Could the writing mode features perhaps be shipped independently from the logical properties? This is

Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)

2015-07-01 Thread Jonathan Kew
Following up on the message quoted below (Intent to ship on pre-release channels), we are now planning to ship support for CSS writing-mode, text-orientation, and related logical-direction properties (things like block-size and inline-size, margin-block-start, etc) enabled by default on all

Re: Secure contexts required for new web platform features

2015-07-01 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 7/1/15 4:43 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: I hope that we can get somewhat better on this. It is rather useful to have a somewhat large set of people have insight as to what goes into Platform. Sure. I'm just saying that I suspect people underestimate the number of features we add, the

API Documentation and Tech Evangelism meeting Thursday at 8 AM PDT

2015-07-01 Thread Eric Shepherd
The Web API documentation community meeting, with representatives from the technical evangelism and the API development teams, will take place on Thursday at 8 AM Pacific Time (see http://bit.ly/1GghwBR for your time zone). Typical meetings include news about recent API development progress and

Re: Secure contexts required for new web platform features

2015-07-01 Thread L. David Baron
On Tuesday 2015-06-30 17:00 -0400, Richard Barnes wrote: Second, when we implement new web platform features, they will be enabled only on secure contexts. Exceptions can be granted, but will need to be justified as part of the Intent to Implement [3] and Intent to Ship process. I think this

Re: Strange Error: Reentrancy error: some client, attempted to display a message to the console while in a console,listener

2015-07-01 Thread Andrew Sutherland
This is probably due to https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/test/resources/logHelper.js that registers itself as a console listener and its low-tech feedback loop prevention. (NB: The quippy file-level comment should be s/aweswome/Andrew/ for the third instance of awesome.) See

Re: mozilla::TemporaryRef is gone; please use already_AddRefed

2015-07-01 Thread Nathan Froyd
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Aryeh Gregor a...@aryeh.name wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Joshua Cranmer  pidgeo...@gmail.com wrote: You'd get the same benefit, I think, by making operator T*() = delete;, syntax which is accepted on gcc 4.8.1+, clang, and MSVC 2015 IIRC. I once

Re: Secure contexts required for new web platform features

2015-07-01 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:35 AM, L. David Baron dba...@mozilla.com wrote: On Tuesday 2015-06-30 17:00 -0400, Richard Barnes wrote: Second, when we implement new web platform features, they will be enabled only on secure contexts. Exceptions can be granted, but will need to be justified as

Re: Secure contexts required for new web platform features

2015-07-01 Thread Martin Thomson
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: we'd need to decide what https://w3c.github.io/webappsec/specs/powerfulfeatures/#is-origin-trustworthy step 5 should mean in our particular case Colloquially: would you show a lock? Unfortunately, conveying the nuance

I was put XBL under customized protocol but not works properly, how to fix it?

2015-07-01 Thread Yonggang Luo
Is there any flag I need to setting up? For example: app://app-bootstrap/skin/HTMLBrowser.xul -- 此致 礼 罗勇刚 Yours sincerely, Yonggang Luo ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Linked Data must die. (was: Linked Data and a new Browser API event)

2015-07-01 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Tantek Çelik tan...@cs.stanford.edu wrote: There *is* a pretty strong engineering consensus, in both this thread, and other threads *against* any use of JSON-LD, or anything Linked Data or otherwise rebranded RDF / Semantic Web, and for good reason. Indeed,

Re: Strange Error: Reentrancy error: some client, attempted to display a message to the console while in a console,listener

2015-07-01 Thread ISHIKAWA,chiaki
On 2015/07/02 4:30, Andrew Sutherland wrote: This is probably due to https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/test/resources/logHelper.js that registers itself as a console listener and its low-tech feedback loop prevention. (NB: The quippy file-level comment should be

Re: Strange Error: Reentrancy error: some client, attempted to display a message to the console while in a console,listener

2015-07-01 Thread ISHIKAWA,chiaki
On 2015/07/01 15:53, Robert Strong wrote: I've only seen those when anything tries to print to the console after a test has called do_test_finish and in that case I suspect it is due to xpcshell shutting down, etc. Robert Thank you for your observation. I will investigate if this happens

Re: Linked Data must die. (was: Linked Data and a new Browser API event)

2015-07-01 Thread Tantek Çelik
Great discussion and feedback in this thread - plenty to act on. Thanks Ted Clancy for kicking this off with an impassioned reality check. And Thanks in particular to Benjamin Francis for summarizing product requirements and use-cases, and especially to both Ted and Ben taking the time last week

Strange Error: Reentrancy error: some client,attempted to display a message to the console while in a console,listener

2015-07-01 Thread ishikawa
Hi, I am not sure where to ask and so ask three mailing lists. First off, TB 38.0.1 after many months of waiting solved many outstanding issues, Great. I hope we can correct many remaining issues in the months ahead. I am testing full debug build of C-C TB locally. This is done by running

Re: Intent to migrate the permissions database to use origins instead of host names

2015-07-01 Thread Michael Layzell
The patches I am working on already use Bobby Holley's OriginAttributes, in fact we use the origin attribute on the nsIPrincipal, and only expose an nsIPrincipal from the API. Internally, we use the origin attribute for serialization, but to external consumers of the API, all that is available

Re: Strange Error: Reentrancy error: some client, attempted to display a message to the console while in a console,listener

2015-07-01 Thread Robert Strong
I've only seen those when anything tries to print to the console after a test has called do_test_finish and in that case I suspect it is due to xpcshell shutting down, etc. Robert On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:35 PM, ishikawa ishik...@yk.rim.or.jp wrote: Hi, I am not sure where to ask and so

Re: web-platform-tests on debug builds running on try

2015-07-01 Thread Ms2ger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/01/2015 01:35 AM, James Graham wrote: Web-platform-tests are now running in debug builds on try only. \o/ Thanks for getting this up and running! Ms2ger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: Secure contexts required for new web platform features

2015-07-01 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 6/30/15 5:00 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: Second, when we implement new web platform features, they will be enabled only on secure contexts. Might I ask who this we is (I don't recall general DOM module owner buy-in on