Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2015-01-02 Thread Eric Shepherd
I feel a lot less embarrassed about not finding that bug number now that I know how long this thread has been running. :) Eric Shepherd Developer Documentation Lead Mozilla http://www.bitstampede.com/ On Dec 30, 2014, at 12:25 PM, L. David Baron dba...@dbaron.org wrote: From the message at

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-30 Thread Eric Shepherd
Is there a bug for the changes being discussed here, and is it marked with dev-doc-needed? Sounds like there will be, at a minimum, a few tweaks to the discussion about how this stuff works. Thanks! Eric Shepherd Developer Documentation Lead Mozilla http://www.bitstampede.com/ On Dec 27,

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-30 Thread L. David Baron
On Tuesday 2014-12-30 12:14 -0500, Eric Shepherd wrote: Is there a bug for the changes being discussed here, and is it marked with dev-doc-needed? Sounds like there will be, at a minimum, a few tweaks to the discussion about how this stuff works. From the message at the start of the thread

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-27 Thread Michael[tm] Smith
Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-27 10:12 +1100: On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: ... Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-26 04:41 -0800: ... The difference in expression ability becomes more important when there are words mixed

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-27 Thread Masatoshi Kimura
On 2014/12/28 3:04, Michael[tm] Smith wrote: Further, I don't know of any typical case where if a base character is kana, why you'd ever want to display furigana/yomigana for it. Ruby is not used only for furigana/yomigana. I know one example from a very popular Japanese novel:

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-27 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-27 10:12 +1100: On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: ... Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-26 04:41 -0800: ... The difference

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-27 Thread L. David Baron
On Sunday 2014-12-28 03:04 +0900, Michael[tm] Smith wrote: So as long as the spec is going to require UAs to resort to magic behavior, I think the magic could instead just be autohide any ruby annotations for kana characters. And then you could just have simpler markup like this:

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-26 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 3:34:50 AM UTC+10, ian.h...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 12:58:45 PM UTC-7, Koji Ishii wrote: Summary: Two recent HTML changes improve ruby support: 1) Addition of the rb and rtc elements (but not rbc); and 2) Matching update to the tag

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-26 Thread Michael[tm] Smith
Hi Xidorn, Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-26 04:41 -0800: ... If you want the word 明朝体 to be marked in ruby in separate form, with the WHATWG rules, you must write it as: ruby明rtみん/rt朝rtちょう/rt体rtたい/rt/ruby It is incompatible with the inline form, which means, if an author

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-26 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: Hi Xidorn, Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-26 04:41 -0800: ... If you want the word 明朝体 to be marked in ruby in separate form, with the WHATWG rules, you must write it as:

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-07-07 Thread ian . hickson
On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 12:58:45 PM UTC-7, Koji Ishii wrote: Summary: Two recent HTML changes improve ruby support: 1) Addition of the rb and rtc elements (but not rbc); and 2) Matching update to the tag omission rules to make ruby authoring easier. By implementing these changes,

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-07-02 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Koji Ishii kojii...@gluesoft.co.jp wrote: Platform coverage: all platforms (parsing only, layout will be in separate intents) The parsing change is the easy part. Is there a plan to get the layout part implemented? My general take on this issue is: 1) As far

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-07-02 Thread Cameron McCormack
On 02/07/14 17:05, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Koji Ishii kojii...@gluesoft.co.jp wrote: Platform coverage: all platforms (parsing only, layout will be in separate intents) The parsing change is the easy part. Is there a plan to get the layout part implemented? My

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-07-02 Thread L. David Baron
On Wednesday 2014-07-02 10:05 +0300, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Koji Ishii kojii...@gluesoft.co.jp wrote: Platform coverage: all platforms (parsing only, layout will be in separate intents) The parsing change is the easy part. Is there a plan to get the layout