Re: Killing the Moz Audio Data API

2013-10-17 Thread smaug
On 10/17/2013 12:09 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: I'd like to write a patch to kill Moz Audio Data in Firefox 28 in favor of Web Audio. We added a deprecation warning for this API in Firefox 23 (bug 855570). I'm not sure what our usual process for this kind of thing is, should we just take the

Re: Killing the Moz Audio Data API

2013-10-17 Thread Benoit Jacob
The other day, while testing some B2G v1.2 stuff, I noticed the Moz Audio Data deprecation warning flying in adb logcat. So you probably need to check with B2G/Gaia people about the timing to kill this API. Benoit 2013/10/16 Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com I'd like to write a patch to

Re: Cost of ICU data

2013-10-17 Thread Axel Hecht
On 10/17/13 12:02 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: On 16/10/13 16:02, Axel Hecht wrote: We'll need to go down a path that works for Firefox OS. With Firefox OS, we don't have the download-size issue, do we? So we can ship all the data. Gerv We have issues with disk space, currently. We're

Re: Cost of ICU data

2013-10-17 Thread Axel Hecht
On 10/16/13 5:39 PM, Jeff Walden wrote: On 10/16/2013 02:10 PM, Axel Hecht wrote: I wonder how far we can get by doing something along the lines we use for webfonts, starting to do the best we can with the data we already have, and improve once the perfect data is local. Having the Intl.Foo

Re: devolution of cleartype rendering in Fx chrome

2013-10-17 Thread Dao
On 12.10.2013 08:51, al...@yahoo.com wrote: This applies to xp without acceleration: 1. Fx 15: grayscale aa in the urlbar https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828073 2. Fx 18: bad cleartype (gamma?) on selected menu items https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828192

Re: devolution of cleartype rendering in Fx chrome

2013-10-17 Thread bram . speeckaert
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:54:48 PM UTC+2, Dao wrote: On 12.10.2013 08:51, al...@yahoo.com wrote: This applies to xp without acceleration: 1. Fx 15: grayscale aa in the urlbar https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=828073 2. Fx 18: bad cleartype (gamma?) on

Re: Cost of ICU data

2013-10-17 Thread Dao
On 16.10.2013 17:02, Axel Hecht wrote: We'll need to go down a path that works for Firefox OS. [...] But, yes, I think we'll need a hosted service to provide that data on demand in the end. This sounds like a non-starter for mobile devices, doesn't it?

char16_t in Mozilla code

2013-10-17 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
I landed bug 895047 last night which makes the following changes: 1. It makes the char16_t type globally available across the tree. 2. It defines PRUnichar and jschar to be char16_t. These changes do not affect NSPR and NSS, but the char16_t type is ABI compatible with the PRUnichar type used in

Re: Cost of ICU data

2013-10-17 Thread Axel Hecht
On 10/17/13 2:41 PM, Dao wrote: On 16.10.2013 17:02, Axel Hecht wrote: We'll need to go down a path that works for Firefox OS. [...] But, yes, I think we'll need a hosted service to provide that data on demand in the end. This sounds like a non-starter for mobile devices, doesn't it?

Re: Killing the Moz Audio Data API

2013-10-17 Thread Andreas Gal
Looks like the comms app has some residual use of the old audio API: apps/communications/dialer/js/keypad.js:this._audio.mozSetup(1, this._sampleRate); apps/system/emergency-call/js/keypad.js: this._audio.mozSetup(2, this._sampleRate); Should be easy to replace. I will file a bug and

Re: Cost of ICU data

2013-10-17 Thread Brian Smith
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Axel Hecht l...@mozilla.com wrote: We have issues with disk space, currently. We're already in the situation where all our keyboard data doesn't fit on quite a few of the devices out there. Where can one read more about this? This ICU data is not *that* huge.

Re: Killing the Moz Audio Data API

2013-10-17 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
On 10/17/2013 2:28 AM, smaug wrote: On 10/17/2013 12:09 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: I'd like to write a patch to kill Moz Audio Data in Firefox 28 in favor of Web Audio. We added a deprecation warning for this API in Firefox 23 (bug 855570). I'm not sure what our usual process for this kind of

Re: Killing the Moz Audio Data API

2013-10-17 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-10-17 9:29 AM, Andreas Gal wrote: Looks like the comms app has some residual use of the old audio API: apps/communications/dialer/js/keypad.js:this._audio.mozSetup(1, this._sampleRate); apps/system/emergency-call/js/keypad.js: this._audio.mozSetup(2, this._sampleRate); Should

Re: Killing the Moz Audio Data API

2013-10-17 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-10-16 6:56 PM, Matthew Gregan wrote: At 2013-10-16T17:09:50-0400, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: I'd like to write a patch to kill Moz Audio Data in Firefox 28 in favor of Web Audio. We added a deprecation warning for this API in Firefox 23 (bug 855570). I'm not sure what our usual process for

Re: devolution of cleartype rendering in Fx chrome

2013-10-17 Thread Johnathan Nightingale
On Oct 17, 2013, at 8:07 AM, bram.speecka...@gmail.com wrote: I've already narrowed down the second issue back in February by compiling revisions myself (as much as I could, many of the revisions in between won't build) and reported my findings in bug 812871. Aside that I was going to mail

Re: Killing the Moz Audio Data API

2013-10-17 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2013-10-17 10:06 AM, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: On 10/17/2013 2:28 AM, smaug wrote: On 10/17/2013 12:09 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: I'd like to write a patch to kill Moz Audio Data in Firefox 28 in favor of Web Audio. We added a deprecation warning for this API in Firefox 23 (bug 855570). I'm

Studying Lossy Image Compression Efficiency

2013-10-17 Thread Josh Aas
This is the discussion thread for the Mozilla Research blog post entitled Studying Lossy Image Compression Efficiency, and the related study. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: Studying Lossy Image Compression Efficiency

2013-10-17 Thread Josh Aas
Blog post is here: https://blog.mozilla.org/research/2013/10/17/studying-lossy-image-compression-efficiency/ Study is here: http://people.mozilla.org/~josh/lossy_compressed_image_study_october_2013/ ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: Feature tracking via bug keyword

2013-10-17 Thread Lawrence Mandel
- Original Message - Lukas Blakk wrote: This wiki page: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Release_Tracking now picks up on the keyword 'feature' in your meta/tracking bugs. Please add this to your feature work to make sure it gets early QA, Stability, PR, User Advocacy, and

Re: Cost of ICU data

2013-10-17 Thread Axel Hecht
On 10/17/13 3:41 PM, Brian Smith wrote: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Axel Hecht l...@mozilla.com wrote: We have issues with disk space, currently. We're already in the situation where all our keyboard data doesn't fit on quite a few of the devices out there. Where can one read more about

Re: Killing the Moz Audio Data API

2013-10-17 Thread Paul Adenot
Yes, I pinged him an hour ago, and he plans to replace all uses of Audio Data API by Web Audio. I think he posted in the bug. Paul. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Monitoring software being installed on performance test machines

2013-10-17 Thread John O'Duinn
tl:dr: We recently installed system monitoring software on our buildbot masters, build-not-test slaves, and various other RelEng machines. IT want to continue this rollout, deploying monitoring software onto RelEng production test machines, which raises a concern about possible impact to

Re: Monitoring software being installed on performance test machines

2013-10-17 Thread Clint Talbert
We have enough tooling in place to see if these affect performance or not. What we will need is a clear demarcation of when the change is made to each OS. Ideally the change would go out across all OS's at the same (or nearly the same) time. If we can at least get the change rolled out across

Re: Studying Lossy Image Compression Efficiency

2013-10-17 Thread cryopng
Thank you for publishing this study, here are my first questions: - Why didn't you include JPEG 2000? - Correct me if I'm wrong but JPEG-XR native color space is not Y'CbCr this means that this format had to perform an extra (possibly lossy) color space conversion. - I suppose that the final

Re: devolution of cleartype rendering in Fx chrome

2013-10-17 Thread Chris Peterson
On 10/17/13 7:27 AM, Johnathan Nightingale wrote: If you (or others reading this) are helping to hunt down regression ranges in the future, consider this my regularly scheduled pitch for mozregression. http://harthur.github.io/mozregression/ It takes a minute to learn how it works, but it

Re: Add-ons Firefox 24 crash due to recent change in JSAPI

2013-10-17 Thread Vasu Yadav
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:53:24 PM UTC+5:30, Bobby Holley wrote: As you've discovered, there's a lot of magic and boilerpate that's easy to get wrong. You can find some simple test XPCOM components in js/xpconnect/components. Try grabbing one of those, making sure that it works,

Re: Studying Lossy Image Compression Efficiency

2013-10-17 Thread Leman Bennett (Omega X)
On 10/17/2013 9:48 AM, Josh Aas wrote: This is the discussion thread for the Mozilla Research blog post entitled Studying Lossy Image Compression Efficiency, and the related study. HEVC-MSP did really well. Its unfortunate that Mozilla could not use it in any capacity since its tied to the

Wanted: Feedback on Windows 64-bit rev2 cutover options

2013-10-17 Thread John Hopkins
Here are three different proposals to cut over to the new Windows 64-bit rev2 (win64-rev2) machines (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/zACrUe_JwKw for context), along with some of the pros and cons of each approach. I would prefer option #3 (gradual phase-in) so

Re: Cost of ICU data

2013-10-17 Thread Matt Brubeck
On 10/17/2013 10:24 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: We used to have codesighs measurements (and perhaps still do) but historically many people just ignored them. We stopped collecting codesighs measurements in November 2012 (bug 803736). As Ehsan says, it was widely ignored. It regressed

Re: Wanted: Feedback on Windows 64-bit rev2 cutover options

2013-10-17 Thread Armen Zambrano Gasparnian
Option #3 sounds logical. What way would sheriffs/devs have to determine which machines are rev2 and which ones are rev1? Should they use the info in production_config.py? - rev2 machines: [1] - rev2 (try): currently empty [2] [1]

Re: Wanted: Feedback on Windows 64-bit rev2 cutover options

2013-10-17 Thread John Hopkins
On 13-10-17 3:22 PM, Armen Zambrano Gasparnian wrote: Option #3 sounds logical. Based on feedback I received from joduinn, one small adjustment to option #3: phase-in to try first and wait for confirmation before phasing-in inbound/central to further reduce risk exposure to those branches.

Re: Studying Lossy Image Compression Efficiency

2013-10-17 Thread Josh Aas
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:50:12 PM UTC-5, cry...@free.fr wrote: Thank you for publishing this study, here are my first questions: - Why didn't you include JPEG 2000? We couldn't test everything, we picked a small set of the formats that we hear the most about and that seem

Re: char16_t in Mozilla code

2013-10-17 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com wrote: I landed bug 895047 last night which makes the following changes: 1. It makes the char16_t type globally available across the tree. 2. It defines PRUnichar and jschar to be char16_t. Nice! Replacing crusty old

Re: Studying Lossy Image Compression Efficiency

2013-10-17 Thread cryopng
HDR-VDP-2 is relatively recent metric that produces predictions for difference visibility and quality degradation. http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/hdrvdp/index.php?title=Main_Page It could been interesting to add this metric in future studies. RafaƂ Mantiuk (the guy behind HDR-VDP-2) also

Re: Feature tracking via bug keyword

2013-10-17 Thread Marc Schifer
I would include any major rewrites of significant portions of the back end as well. Marc S. - Original Message - From: Lawrence Mandel lman...@mozilla.com To: Cameron McCormack c...@mcc.id.au Cc: Lukas Blakk lsbl...@mozilla.com, dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org,

Capturing text from Firefox

2013-10-17 Thread Look, Yuriy
Hi, I am working on GUI automation component of a performance monitoring product. One of the common approaches to monitoring application is periodically capture text from the control where changes are expected (content area of the browser for Web applications). Text capturing ideally