Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see spinners for remote content (ie can't actually browse the web - doesn't matter too much for

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Marco Bonardo
On 07/11/2014 10:40, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see spinners for remote content (ie can't actually

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 07/11/2014 10:12, Marco Bonardo wrote: On 07/11/2014 10:40, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see spinners

Re: About the bitfield requirement for portibility

2014-11-07 Thread Philip Chee
On 21/10/2014 11:21, Xidorn Quan wrote: Hi, I read the C++ portibility guide [1], in which it is said that all bitfields should have the same type, or some compiler may mishandle the code. Is that still true for the compiler set we currently use? The compiler the doc mentioned is MSVC++8

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch gijskruitbo...@gmail.com wrote: Right, it's that last part that is very much not the case for me. I looked for a bug for a while and decided to just file one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1095407 My experience upgrading to

Re: Introducing Brotli - an alternative to LZMA

2014-11-07 Thread matt . sephton
Try this http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2013Oct/att-0008/Brotli_update_-_20131011.pdf ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Bill McCloskey
Unfortunately, I checked it a patch yesterday (bug 1092156) that is causing lots of crashes if you have certain add-ons installed (such as the Gecko profiler). The crash happens regardless of whether e10s is enabled. Starting up in safe mode (via -safe-mode) fixes the problem. The bad patch

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Dave Townsend
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch gijskruitbo...@gmail.com wrote: Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see spinners

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Robert Kaiser
Marco Bonardo schrieb: I'm forcing myself to use it for everyday work, but I completely dropped forceRTL and Flash (I must admit I'm not missing it) to make it usable. The Flash/Plugins stuff *should* have been fixed, but probably needs testing. KaiRo

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 07/11/2014 16:26, Dave Townsend wrote: wrote: Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see spinners for remote content (ie can't

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Mike de Boer
I had to file https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1095496 :( Mike. On 07 Nov 2014, at 17:33, Gijs Kruitbosch gijskruitbo...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/11/2014 16:26, Dave Townsend wrote: wrote: Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL,

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gavin Sharp
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 was filed 6 weeks ago, and diagnosed as relating to force rtl (but Firefox's fault, because we're passing CPOWs to functions that should never have them) within a few days, after which nothing happened. ForceRTL is not a commonly installed

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread cheba
My nightly crashes on start. Well, that's fine and is expected from unstable software. But now that I've submitted a half a dozen crash reports which pref do I flip to continue using my browser? ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Chris Peterson
On 11/7/14 7:47 AM, Bill McCloskey wrote: Unfortunately, I checked it a patch yesterday (bug 1092156) that is causing lots of crashes if you have certain add-ons installed (such as the Gecko profiler). The crash happens regardless of whether e10s is enabled. Starting up in safe mode (via

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Armen Zambrano
If we have enabled e10s for nightly, are the normal non-e10s-test jobs going to run with the pref off? If not, we would be testing e10s twice on fx36, stop testing non-e10s fx36 and get non-e10s-regressions sneak into aurora when we uplift (since I believe we're locking to trunk). regards,

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gavin Sharp
If we have enabled e10s for nightly, are the normal non-e10s-test jobs going to run with the pref off? Yes. Gavin On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Armen Zambrano arme...@mozilla.com wrote: If we have enabled e10s for nightly, are the normal non-e10s-test jobs going to run with the pref off?

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Chris Peterson
On 11/7/14 9:24 AM, Armen Zambrano wrote: If we have enabled e10s for nightly, are the normal non-e10s-test jobs going to run with the pref off? If not, we would be testing e10s twice on fx36, stop testing non-e10s fx36 and get non-e10s-regressions sneak into aurora when we uplift (since I

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Dave Townsend dtowns...@mozilla.com wrote: We started that with prompting users to opt-in to e10s around a month ago and since then around 25% of Nightly users have been running with e10s enabled. As we hoped this saw a surge in the number of bugs filed and

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Andrew McCreight
- Original Message - Thinking ahead: e10s is a big enough change that I suspect we'll see high levels of instability when it gets uplifted to Aurora and (especially) Beta. Not sure how to avoid that... but will there be an easy way to disable it? I think there should be a pref in the

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gavin Sharp
Yes, it is currently disabled by safe mode. There is currently a checkbox in prefs to toggle it, in Nightly builds. When it rides the trains, we'll have to re-evaluate that tradeoff at various steps based on the quality level and testing goals. In the long term it does not make sense to maintain

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Chris Peterson
On 11/7/14 1:28 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Dave Townsenddtowns...@mozilla.com wrote: We started that with prompting users to opt-in to e10s around a month ago and since then around 25% of Nightly users have been running with e10s enabled. As we hoped this

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Are we currently planning to let this default ride into aurora in 2 weeks' time? ~ Gijs On 07/11/2014 21:44, Gavin Sharp wrote: Yes, it is currently disabled by safe mode. There is currently a checkbox in prefs to toggle it, in Nightly builds. When it rides the trains, we'll have to

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread J. Ryan Stinnett
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Gijs Kruitbosch gijskruitbo...@gmail.com wrote: Are we currently planning to let this default ride into aurora in 2 weeks' time? From Chris's first message: e10s will not ride the trains to Aurora 36. - Ryan ___