There were plenty of blockers for _exit(0), including the fact that
pretty much none of the async code in Firefox/Gecko was shutdown-safe.
That's one of the reasons we had to come up with
nsIAsyncShutdown/AsyncShutdown.jsm. One of the not-entirely-stated goals
was that once everything registered
Out of curiosity, what's the benefit?
On 22/03/16 15:44, Mason Chang wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We're changing the default graphics backend on OS X from CoreGraphics to
> Skia. In the best case, you should notice no difference.
>
> If you see any graphics artifacts on mac, please file a bug and make
I seem to remember that our ChromeWorkers (SessionWorker,
PageThumbsWorker, OS.File Worker) were pretty memory-hungry, but I don't
see any workers there. Does this mean that they have negligible overhead
or that they are only in the parent process?
Cheers,
David
On 15/03/16 04:34, Nicholas
On 09/03/16 22:17, Bobby Holley wrote:
> I think splitting Gecko into multiple repos is an anti-goal, because we
> derive enormous productivity benefits from using a mono-repo.
>
> If you're serious about proposing that, I would suggest starting a new
> thread to avoid derailing this one.
I'm
I'm assuming that, for the sake of this discussion, Gecko ==
mozilla-central minus stuff that can be built and distributed on its
own. In particular, most of toolkit/ is covered by this definition.
Just looking at things I use/work on, I believe that we could relatively
easily split in distinct
This would be extremely useful for Project Link and, I assume, other
Connected Devices projects.
Cheers,
David
On 02/03/16 19:06, Nicholas Alexander wrote:
> Summary: "The Push API gives web applications the ability to receive
> messages pushed to them from a server, whether or not the web app
Let me second Justin.
I remember a time, not so very long ago, when Gecko powered 4 or 5
non-Mozilla browsers, as well as GPS devices, wysiwyg editors [1], the
UX of virus scanners, eBook readers [2], etc, as well as a host of
innovative add-ons. At some point, we started deprecating these use
Unfortunately, this ship has sailed a long time ago. I didn't really
follow at the time, but I'm almost sure that there was a conscious
decision that Gecko == Firefoxen. While it makes the development of
Firefoxen easier, it pretty much killed the Mozilla Platform, including
embedding.
These
So, complaints about the performance of Firefox are a pretty common
topic. Performance bugs, on the other hand, are quite rare and/or lost
in noise, even when they are submitted by advanced users. While
Telemetry gives us have hard numbers on performance, intuition suggests
that we are lacking
Well, before you can file a perf-keyword bug, you still need to
1/ find a product/component in which to file it (which is the original
issue);
2/ know that keywords in general exist, and this keyword in particular;
3/ (I believe) have editbugs rights.
That's a pretty big list.
Cheers,
David
On
My bad, I misread bug 1050252.
You are right, that is basically a different implementation of the same
general idea.
Thanks for the pointer,
David
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That sounds like it's going to break stuff.
Reviewers frequently ask me to change stuff during reviews. I don't
re-run all the tests on all the platforms after every single round of
review. Once in a while, the changes end up breaking stuff which I need
to fix – generally trivial stuff that I can
Fwiw, I used to perform a search-replace `add_task` => `/*add_task*/` to
deactivate everything, then uncomment individual tasks.
Of course, your solution looks cleaner, especially if it can be made to
work via mach.
Cheers,
David
On 19/01/16 13:39, Philipp Kewisch wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I
I also think that this makes sense. Can we already start thinking about
countermeasures, though?
It looks to me that catching a long-running/infinite microtask loop is
much easier to detect and interrupt than a long-running sequential loop.
However, if we wish to pause a page with such a
Yes, I mostly meant XPConnect.
On 04/01/16 14:36, smaug wrote:
> On 01/03/2016 06:35 PM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote:
>> Accessing XPCOM in a worker will most likely break the garbage-collector
>> in novel and interesting ways,
>
> Why would it? Our workers are full
not be dereferenced from worker
threads. Attempting to do so will crash libxul by design to avoid accidents.
etc.
Cheers,
David
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>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:35 AM, David Rajchenbach-Teller
> <dtel...@mozilla.com <mailto:dtel...@m
Accessing XPCOM in a worker will most likely break the garbage-collector
in novel and interesting ways, so I don't suggest heading in that direction.
Cheers,
David
On 03/01/16 17:24, 罗勇刚(Yonggang Luo) wrote:
> So that we could be able to access xpcom in worker.
> And we could be able to
Oh, do we have a clean profile API already? If so, I missed it when I
was looking for it, a few years ago.
On 19/12/15 21:24, Philip Chee wrote:
> On 19/12/2015 14:52, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote:
>> In that case, perhaps the first thing to land and let ride the
>> trains w
Looks promising.
Are you in touch with Noidart, the developer of Profilist (the other
profile switching add-on)?
Cheers,
David
On 18/12/15 18:17, Andrea Marchesini wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This week I landed a set of patches to introduce 'about:profiles'.
> This page shows the list of existing
In that case, perhaps the first thing to land and let ride the trains
would be a clean profile API to let add-on developers (including Andrea
and GoFaster) experiment with implementing prototype profile managers?
Cheers,
David
On 18/12/15 22:51, Benjamin Smedberg wrote:
> As it stands, this is
Well, this wouldn't be the first time that we are not as clear
communicating our intents as we thought or should. Sorry about that.
Thanks for getting in touch with the OS/2 maintainer. We definitely need
to spread the word asap. I hope that Rust can be ported to OS/2 and
other Tier-3 platforms
Could we perhaps organize a MozLando workshop to discuss add-ons security?
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For what it's worth, this thread was not meant to point fingers, but
specifically to get an answer from said team. I see concern about
Extension Signing, and I see points made by add-on developers and which
appear valid to me and which I am unable to answer.
That doesn't mean that we have done
I admit I have followed extension signing/scanning only very remotely,
but Dan Stillman has a number of good points:
http://danstillman.com/2015/11/23/firefox-extension-scanning-is-security-theater
Could someone who's actually involved in this feature provide an answer?
Cheers,
David
And didn't receive any reply, afaict.
On 25/11/15 10:30, Mike Hommey wrote:
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>> I admit I have followed extension signing/scanning only very remotely,
>> but Dan Stillman has a number of good poi
,
by using a radical redesign of js-ctypes based on asm.js/WebAsm, but at
the moment, I don't think that anybody is working on it.
Cheers,
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On 20/11/15 12:03, Philip Chee wrote:
> On 18/11/2015 16:04, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote:
>> Well, the main problem is that js-ctypes is
Well, the main problem is that js-ctypes is very hard to use, even
harder to use without causing memory leaks or crashing the process.
Think the worst parts of both C and JavaScript together.
Cheers,
David
On 18/11/15 08:57, Philip Chee wrote:
> On 14/11/2015 18:21, David Rajchenbach-Tel
Actually, Sqlite.jsm does most of its work off the main thread.
But yes, it would clearly be possible to reimplement Sqlite.jsm using
js-ctypes for workers. If you wish to work on this, I can try and help
mentoring.
Cheers,
David
On 14/11/15 10:45, Yonggang Luo wrote:
> The current Sqlite.jsm
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o the user, and can't be detected that
> way. I think it would be nice to come up with a set of user actions in
> the primary UI and manually measure their delay based on the knowledge
> that we have about the asynchronous nature of their implementation.
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> Cheers,
> Eh
IL animations too, if needed
> (perhaps by exposing the mRegisteredWithRefreshDriver member of
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Yes, that's also my guess. I'd appreciate if someone could confirm that.
Also, I haven't found a public API for this, so I'm digging in the
source of the refresh driver, and I haven't found confirmation yet.
Cheers,
David
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I have posted an early patch on bug 1219145 that approximates
"animating" to "is anyone listening for vsync". If anybody knowledgeable
could take a look, I'd be grateful.
Cheers,
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ich process?
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> Please consider non-"animation" use-cases. In particular, users do
> notice the latency of typing into edit boxes as much as anything else.
> So let's make sure that editing latency triggers this as much as a
> current animation.
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ual, from
the point of view of the user, these are false positives.
Hence my quest for a way to determine whether the main thread is
currently in a jank-critical section (user-interaction or animation).
Note that there are secondary applications to this, e.g. bug 1178972.
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That's great work!
Fwiw, my personal use case would be to subscribe to be informed (through
a RSS feed?) if new errors are detected in specific directories or
specific files. Would this be feasible?
Also, any chance we could also get Facebook Flow for JS code?
Plenty of kudos,
David
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I think we should allow addons to implement something like this. But I
don't think it's something that we should let apps do.
/ Jonas
So Dropbox, Cozy Cloud, etc. should be add-ons instead of apps? This
strikes me as odd.
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Aside: Please also try avoid using Iterator().
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marginally, and rather ugly.
I also agree with Eric that `foo_` is somewhat nicer to read than
`mFoo`, which introduces a weird cAmelCase, but I can live with it. For
what it's worth, `this-foo` is also nice.
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KaiRo pointed out another reason to reduce shutdown hang rates on IRC: it's
lousy UX. The crash-reporter dialog pops up a minute after the user closed
Firefox
That's bug 1137941, but how would that reduce shutdown hangs?
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worth spending a significant amount of time addressing the test failures
induced by those patches (see comment 109 in that bug, for instance) and
the possible webcompat issues from those patches.
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), we need to make sure that warnings are as
actionable as possible. One way to do this is to progressively convert
each the warning into either a real assertion or into something that, by
design, needs to be whitelisted individually (and documented).
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likely cause real assertion failures.
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On 2015-06-05 6:08 AM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote:
This API covers all the needs I have encountered for warnings so far in
JS code. I don't think it's terribly different in C++ code
when they fail intermittently. I'm not a huge fan of adding more
ways for tests to fail if people aren't willing to actually do something
about it when they do.
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at the patch in the bug, your changes seem to affect Assert.jsm
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What exactly are you trying to do?
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, assertion report stack traces in debug builds,
which is excruciatingly slow, so we have had to switch them to be
warnings in at least some cases (see bug 756045 for example.)
Are you talking about our weird non-fatal assertions or actual fatal
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Is this supposed to be on at all times? If so, we need to connect this
somehow with slow add-on detection.
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I am not so sure if multiple executeAsync can be executed at the same time.
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Why don't we just click to play everything?
Well, the poster image could still be used for click-to-play, right?
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That sounds like a good idea to me.
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This will be discussed as part of the Async session, on Thursday, at
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Note a change of focus: I intend to discuss *error handling* (including
its links with test suites), rather than test suites.
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dev-platform, I have plans to further change them.
If you
Tim is scheduling a session.
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In the past year, we have landed a number of changes to shutdown (e.g.
profile-before-change2, AsyncShutdown for JS, AsyncShutdown for XPCOM,
the Shutdown Terminator), and we have further plans (e.g. migrating
testsuite-related).
3. How can we fix them.
- (me) Warnings-as-actionable-issues.
Cheers,
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The test suites have changed a lot during the past few months (e.g.
Assert.jsm, fail-on-uncaught
Please note that Platform-based shutdown crashes are currently
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In the past year, we have landed a number
it there).
(We should probably make an attempt to go through the tests that
have assertion count ranges including 0, since nothing catches when
those assertions are fixed, and we're missing the test coverage
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It can be implemented in JS, right?
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