Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:20 AM, Ben Francis wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM, James Burke wrote: >> >> So, I think we just need to set the expectation for at least another year >> or two, that the gaia set of apps will not be able to be "privileged", >> because we need them as early beta

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On 6/18/14 12:20 PM, Ben Francis wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM, James Burke > wrote: So, I think we just need to set the expectation for at least another year or two, that the gaia set of apps will not be able to be "privileged", because we need th

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM, James Burke wrote: > So, I think we just need to set the expectation for at least another year > or two, that the gaia set of apps will not be able to be "privileged", > because we need them as early beta testers for features and capabilities we > are building out

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On 6/18/14 8:25 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Another thing that will likely force us to use certified apps for now is Web Components. We are only enabling those for certified apps for now since we want to have freedom to make changes to the spec and the implementation without worrying about breaking

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 5:09 AM, James Burke wrote: > On 6/16/14, 12:34 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: >> >> I also propose that we make any required code changes in v2.0 so that >> non-certified apps can't get unrestricted use of the font. All the options >> proposed (#2,3, or 4,) have drawbacks, the co

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On 06/18/2014 04:51 AM, Andreas Gal wrote: >> So for certified app, we landed a fast path. It would be good to >> investigate if this is purely related to the CSP or not, by simply >> disabling it (security.csp.enable = false), and if yes, investigate if >> reducing the number of files by aggregat

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Andreas Gal wrote: > > On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:03 AM, Vivien Nicolas wrote: > >> >> On 06/17/2014 09:18 PM, James Burke wrote: >>> On 6/17/14, 10:08 AM, Vivien Nicolas wrote: That's true. Actually there are many other hacks that depends on the fact that a

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:03 AM, Vivien Nicolas wrote: > > On 06/17/2014 09:18 PM, James Burke wrote: >> On 6/17/14, 10:08 AM, Vivien Nicolas wrote: >>> That's true. Actually there are many other hacks that depends on the fact >>> that application are certified. So even if I would like to have mor

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On 06/17/2014 09:18 PM, James Burke wrote: On 6/17/14, 10:08 AM, Vivien Nicolas wrote: That's true. Actually there are many other hacks that depends on the fact that application are certified. So even if I would like to have more apps as privileged apps just for the principle, it's not that s

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Jonathan Kew wrote: > If I'm reading bug 948856 correctly, the difference may have been somewhat > less (150ms? comment 17) when the font was inlined in the CSS using a data > URI, rather than loaded from a separate file > > If we can't afford that, then we still

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On 6/17/14, 10:08 AM, Vivien Nicolas wrote: That's true. Actually there are many other hacks that depends on the fact that application are certified. So even if I would like to have more apps as privileged apps just for the principle, it's not that simple. And we may need to reconsider the |pri

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On 06/16/2014 09:34 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: Hi All: We need a path forward on the deployment of Icon fonts in FxOS. The Gaia team understandably wants to squeeze every bit of performance on their apps in v1.4: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=951593 We are concerned about leaking

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On 16/06/14 21:34, Jet Villegas wrote: 1. Let people use the icon fonts anywhere. (ie. like "MS WingDings" can be used for this purpose) 2. The patch in bug 1008458 introduces "private" fonts that use the Unicode Private Use Area (PUA) for icon glyphs. 3. Use PUA characters as per bug 1008458 b

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Wilson Page wrote: > Maybe I'm late to the party, but I don't know what the PUA issue is? Code points carry semantics. If you assign meaning to unassigned code points through fonts, you have created a portability problem. That is, the font is required to make sens

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

" , "Vivien" , "sicking" , "Robert O'Callahan" , "mozilla.dev.platform group" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 11:31:18 AM Subject: Re: Icon fonts in FxOS On 17/6/14 11:10, Wilson Page wrote: The gaia-icons font currently uses ligatures

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

Wilson: How difficult would it be to have your grunt script add a dlig table to your font? https://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_ae.htm#dlig https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1008458#c22 --Jet - Original Message - From: "Wilson Page" We are using icon-fonts i

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

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Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

(2014/06/17 4:34), Jet Villegas wrote: > 1. Let people use the icon fonts anywhere. (ie. like "MS WingDings" can be > used for this purpose) Actually WingDings can NOT be used at least on desktop Firefox because it does not have a unicode cmap. Does Firefox OS have an option to relax this restri

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On 16/6/14 22:09, James Burke wrote: On 6/16/14, 12:34 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: I also propose that we make any required code changes in v2.0 so that non-certified apps can't get unrestricted use of the font. All the options proposed (#2,3, or 4,) have drawbacks, the common one being that they ma

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

Comments inline. > 1. Let people use the icon fonts anywhere. (ie. like "MS WingDings" can be > used for this purpose) We can always host the icon fonts on github to download. Could web developers package the icon fonts in the apps itself? That way they can use the font outside of Gaia if they

Re: Icon fonts in FxOS

On 6/16/14, 12:34 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: I also propose that we make any required code changes in v2.0 so that non-certified apps can't get unrestricted use of the font. All the options proposed (#2,3, or 4,) have drawbacks, the common one being that they may be overly restrictive. The Gaia

Icon fonts in FxOS

Hi All: We need a path forward on the deployment of Icon fonts in FxOS. The Gaia team understandably wants to squeeze every bit of performance on their apps in v1.4: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=951593 We are concerned about leaking these fonts into Open Web content, so we want