Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
On 11/7/07, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know if this is a root which already exists in the NSS or is chained to an existing root in NSS or if this is a new root entirely. I believe this is a new root entirely. If it is chained to an existing root in NSS, we

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker wrote: I've received a request from the NSS development team that I approve inclusion of the VeriSign EV root CA certificate in the new version of NSS to be included in Firefox 3, so that developers and others may test out the new EV-related functionality in NSS and Firefox 3 beta

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker wrote: Wan-Teh Chang wrote: On 11/7/07, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know if this is a root which already exists in the NSS or is chained to an existing root in NSS or if this is a new root entirely. I believe this is a new root

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Frank, the best test might be, if you could point us to a site signed by the root in question. We could simply follow the chain up to the CA root already in NSS. I gave an example already in my previous message: https://www.fnac.com/. https://www.paypal.com/

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Frank Hecker
Frank Hecker wrote: However the general changes to be made to the policy are clear, even if the language is final, s/final/not final/ Frank -- Frank Hecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ dev-tech-crypto mailing list dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker wrote: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Check out this page: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/included/ It seems there are some CAs which would issue from an EV enabled root. Yes, those are CAs that indicated to Gerv that they would be issuing EV

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Check out this page: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/included/ It seems there are some CAs which would issue from an EV enabled root. Yes, those are CAs that indicated to Gerv that they would be issuing EV certs. I haven't yet checked these to

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Andrews, Rick
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:35:32 +0200 From: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing To: Frank Hecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org Frank Hecker wrote: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Hi Andrews, Andrews, Rick wrote: Web servers with a VeriSign EV cert are configured with the end entity cert and two intermediate CAs: the EV CA and a cross-signed cert. If so, wouldn't it be better to formally include the new (EV) root in NSS in its own right instead of using the cross signed

RE: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Andrews, Rick
Eddy, Yes, I think we need to include the new EV root in NSS, as well as our older PCA3 root. Web servers still need to be configured with the intermediate and cross-signed certs so that older browsers that only know about the older PCA3 root see the EV cert as chaining up to that trusted root.

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Robert Relyea
Frank Hecker wrote: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Frank, the best test might be, if you could point us to a site signed by the root in question. We could simply follow the chain up to the CA root already in NSS. I gave an example already in my previous message:

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/7/2007 8:26 AM, Frank Hecker wrote [in part]: I've received a request from the NSS development team that I approve inclusion of the VeriSign EV root CA certificate in the new version of NSS to be included in Firefox 3, so that developers and others may test out the new EV-related

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Frank Hecker
David E. Ross wrote: Will this be done only for testing purposes? Or will the certificate be included in an end-user release without further analysis? Or will the certificate be subjected to analysis per the final policy revision before end-user release? My intention is to go back and

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Andrews, Rick wrote: No problem at all. I'll see if I can do it this afternoon. Excellent! -- Regards Signer: Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd. http://www.startcom.org Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: Join the Revolution! http://blog.startcom.org Phone:

RE: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Andrews, Rick
No problem at all. I'll see if I can do it this afternoon. From: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:54 PM To: Andrews, Rick Cc: dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Hi Rick, Would there be any problem with Verisign making a formal inclusion request for the root(s) in question? Andrews, Rick wrote: Eddy, Yes, I think we need to include the new EV root in NSS, as well as our older PCA3 root. Web servers still need to be configured with the

Re: Updating Mozilla CA certificate policy to address EV certificates

2007-11-07 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Hi Frank, Frank Hecker wrote: My apologies for the long delay in responding to your message. I am now ready to take up this issue again, and hope to conclude it soon. Relax, I'm kinda used to it from you ;-) I agree that section 7 is a good place for this (since EV practices primarily

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
The certificates are usually supplied as an attachment to the bug and also a URL location provided. I think there are some other things missing as well, but the responsible person will catch up with you for whatever is missing at the bug. In any case it's great that you submitted the request!

Re: Updating Mozilla CA certificate policy to address EV certificates

2007-11-07 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Frank Hecker wrote: snip Your implication here is that the CAB Forum EV guidelines can be used as stand-alone guidelines comparable to the other criteria referenced in section 8 (WebTrust for CAs, ETSI TS 101 456 and 102 242, and ANSI X9.79). I'm not

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Andrews, Rick wrote: BTW, Step 14 on the CA certificate policy page (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/policy/) says 'a CA should submit a formal request by submitting a bug report into the mozilla.org Bugzilla system, filed against the CA Certificates component of the

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Frank Hecker
Nelson B Bolyard wrote: Frank, In the past, Gerv rejected all CA cert requests that did not originate from a representative of the CA itself, citing the policy. By honoring a request to include the Verisign CA cert, which request did not originate with a representative of the CA, this is an

Re: Inclusion of VeriSign EV root in Firefox 3 betas for testing

2007-11-07 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Frank Hecker wrote: I've received a request from the NSS development team that I approve inclusion of the VeriSign EV root CA certificate in the new version of NSS to be included in Firefox 3, so that developers and others may test out the new EV-related