Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Cocoon 2.1 will stay around for a while so same here! Jeroen Antonio Gallardo wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz escribió: Agree with Ralph, there's no need to close anything, if people want to fix bugs on older versions that's one of the beauties of open source: no one forces you to upgrade, as long as you're ready to fix what you're using if needed. +1 Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo.
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
On Nov 17, 2007 9:49 AM, Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...If someone finds a bug and wants to fix it and do a release of 2.1.x they should be free to do so Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: ...After 2.1.11 I would like to close 2.1.x branch completely Agree with Ralph, there's no need to close anything, if people want to fix bugs on older versions that's one of the beauties of open source: no one forces you to upgrade, as long as you're ready to fix what you're using if needed. -Bertrand
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: If I get enough positive feedback about the current state I'm happy to prepare a release of 2.1.11 in December. the lenya community would appreciate that a lot! i'm collecting some cocoon-specific user feedback on our lists atm. there have been no problem reports whatsoever, and a few people have reported works for me. the majority of users have not replied yet, which could be interpreted as works *perfectly* for me :-D of course, lenya uses only a subset of cocoon 2.1.11-dev, but this subset at least should have gotten a fair bit of testing lately. the last cocoon breakages i can recall were those induced by shared code with 2.2, which has been remedied a while ago. regards, and thanks for your great work! jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code. - Ken Thompson.
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Hi Cocoon devs Am 15.11.2007 um 15:41 schrieb Carsten Ziegeler: We have no real plans or another 2.1.x release, although we talked briefly about it over the last year several times. I think it makes sense to do a 2.1.11 release as a maintenance release, especially if Lenya wants to use this version. However, the only problem I see right now is the question of the qualitify. Which means, how many people are using latest svn and/or have tested it? If I get enough positive feedback about the current state I'm happy to prepare a release of 2.1.11 in December. Thanks a lot for the feedback! A december release would be a great perspective for our project and would help us a lot to roll out lenya in a smooth way. As you might have noticed we opened a thread in our user mailing list asking for feedback if our users know of any cocoon related issues - we'll let you know if there are any reports. For quite a while now, the cocoon 2.1.x trunk is fetched as a svn external during lenya svn checkout and lenya seems to be running fine with it. Jürgen null-oder-eins GmbH Zürich web graphic design www.null-oder-eins.ch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: callto://ragaller
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Bertrand Delacretaz escribió: Agree with Ralph, there's no need to close anything, if people want to fix bugs on older versions that's one of the beauties of open source: no one forces you to upgrade, as long as you're ready to fix what you're using if needed. +1 Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo.
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz escribió: Agree with Ralph, there's no need to close anything, if people want to fix bugs on older versions that's one of the beauties of open source: no one forces you to upgrade, as long as you're ready to fix what you're using if needed. +1 +1 Cheers Michael Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo. -- Michael Wechner Wyona - Open Source Content Management - Yanel, Yulup http://www.wyona.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +41 44 272 91 61
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Bertrand Delacretaz pisze: On Nov 17, 2007 9:49 AM, Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...If someone finds a bug and wants to fix it and do a release of 2.1.x they should be free to do so Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Agree with Ralph, there's no need to close anything, if people want to fix bugs on older versions that's one of the beauties of open source: no one forces you to upgrade, as long as you're ready to fix what you're using if needed. Ok, lesson taken. :-) Just to clarify, we don't have policy to keep 2.1 and trunk in sync, anymore. Right? -- Grzegorz Kossakowski Committer and PMC Member of Apache Cocoon http://reflectingonthevicissitudes.wordpress.com/
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
If you fix a bug in 2.1 it should obviously go to trunk. 2.1.11 has not been released so if you know of a bug that applies to 2.1.x that is fixed in trunk, IMO it should also be applied to 2.1.x. I would recommend that this policy be followed until 2.2.0 is released. Past that I would suggest that fixes be targeted to 2.2. If something critical were to come up that could affect 2.1 it would be nice to have it mentioned here so that someone who cares could apply it if they want to. Ralph Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz pisze: On Nov 17, 2007 9:49 AM, Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...If someone finds a bug and wants to fix it and do a release of 2.1.x they should be free to do so Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Agree with Ralph, there's no need to close anything, if people want to fix bugs on older versions that's one of the beauties of open source: no one forces you to upgrade, as long as you're ready to fix what you're using if needed. Ok, lesson taken. :-) Just to clarify, we don't have policy to keep 2.1 and trunk in sync, anymore. Right?
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 09:41 -0500, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: If I get enough positive feedback about the current state I'm happy to prepare a release of 2.1.11 in December. WDYT? Carsten +1 Cheers, Alfred.
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
On 19.11.2007 17:54 Uhr, Alfred Nathaniel wrote: If I get enough positive feedback about the current state I'm happy to prepare a release of 2.1.11 in December. +1 I'd like to have a final 2.1 release as well. Joerg
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Fine by me. I finally have the fix for XMLFileModule that I will be checking in and it would be nice to get that in a release. Ralph Carsten Ziegeler wrote: We have no real plans or another 2.1.x release, although we talked briefly about it over the last year several times. I think it makes sense to do a 2.1.11 release as a maintenance release, especially if Lenya wants to use this version. However, the only problem I see right now is the question of the qualitify. Which means, how many people are using latest svn and/or have tested it? If I get enough positive feedback about the current state I'm happy to prepare a release of 2.1.11 in December. WDYT? Carsten
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
If someone finds a bug and wants to fix it and do a release of 2.1.x they should be free to do so. Once 2.2 is released and has all the parts working I doubt anyone will though. Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Thanks for offer Carsten, I will help with testing (based only on samples, though). When we at 2.1.x, I have been wondering about freezing this branch. In a fact, it's already almost dead but lots of people are still using 2.1.x. Therefore I would like to hear your opinions on calling bug-squash effort. I mean: I would prepare an announcement at our site and announcement to the user list calling our users to vote for issues they would love to have fixed. The rules of the game would be simple: everyone is free to present favourites on users list and encourage others to vote on their issues. Then, if there is a decent number of volunteers, everyone could pick up an issue from the top of the most voted issues list and fix it? Of course issues having a patch already could go in first. After 2.1.11 I would like to close 2.1.x branch completely. WDYT?
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
On Nov 15, 2007 9:41 AM, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I think it makes sense to do a 2.1.11 release as a maintenance release, especially if Lenya wants to use this version. However, the only problem I see right now is the question of the qualitify. Which means, how many people are using latest svn and/or have tested it?... If Lenya is using it successfully, and if our automated tests pass (I can run them on Linux and MacOSX when the time comes) I'd be ok with making a release. There have been some small changes since 2.1.10, and little is happening in the 2.1 branch, so it might be good to do a release of that. -Bertrand
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Juergen Ragaller wrote: Hi Cocoon devs The Lenya community is preparing for a lenya 2.0 release. A considerable part of our testing was done against the 2.1.x trunk of cocoon as the 2.1.x cocoon trunk has been very stable for quite some time. We just talked about declaring either a 2.1.10 or SVN-Version 595020 dependency. The most desirable way for us would be to ship lenya with a 2.1.11 dependency. Reading the cocoon dev list, I'm very much aware, that you're working on a 2.2 release. Do you plan to release 2.1.11 as well in the near future? Thanks a lot for an orientation about the topic ...and for this nice software! We have no real plans or another 2.1.x release, although we talked briefly about it over the last year several times. I think it makes sense to do a 2.1.11 release as a maintenance release, especially if Lenya wants to use this version. However, the only problem I see right now is the question of the qualitify. Which means, how many people are using latest svn and/or have tested it? If I get enough positive feedback about the current state I'm happy to prepare a release of 2.1.11 in December. WDYT? Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Florian, I completely forgot about this. Since your report looks to be perfect (screenshots, sample files etc.) it should be really appreciated by fixing it. I won't make any promises but since it also affects 2.2 and there is about a month left to planned(?) release of Cocoon 2.1.11 I may have a free time to dig into it You're still my personal hero :-) Perhaps as Xmas present :-P Greetings, Florian
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Carsten Ziegeler pisze: Juergen Ragaller wrote: Hi Cocoon devs The Lenya community is preparing for a lenya 2.0 release. A considerable part of our testing was done against the 2.1.x trunk of cocoon as the 2.1.x cocoon trunk has been very stable for quite some time. We just talked about declaring either a 2.1.10 or SVN-Version 595020 dependency. The most desirable way for us would be to ship lenya with a 2.1.11 dependency. Reading the cocoon dev list, I'm very much aware, that you're working on a 2.2 release. Do you plan to release 2.1.11 as well in the near future? Thanks a lot for an orientation about the topic ...and for this nice software! We have no real plans or another 2.1.x release, although we talked briefly about it over the last year several times. I think it makes sense to do a 2.1.11 release as a maintenance release, especially if Lenya wants to use this version. However, the only problem I see right now is the question of the qualitify. Which means, how many people are using latest svn and/or have tested it? I guess the number of peopling using HEAD of 2.1.x is pretty high. I estimation bases on several talks with people during GT, they all have been using 2.1.x. If I get enough positive feedback about the current state I'm happy to prepare a release of 2.1.11 in December. Thanks for offer Carsten, I will help with testing (based only on samples, though). When we at 2.1.x, I have been wondering about freezing this branch. In a fact, it's already almost dead but lots of people are still using 2.1.x. Therefore I would like to hear your opinions on calling bug-squash effort. I mean: I would prepare an announcement at our site and announcement to the user list calling our users to vote for issues they would love to have fixed. The rules of the game would be simple: everyone is free to present favourites on users list and encourage others to vote on their issues. Then, if there is a decent number of volunteers, everyone could pick up an issue from the top of the most voted issues list and fix it? Of course issues having a patch already could go in first. After 2.1.11 I would like to close 2.1.x branch completely. WDYT? -- Grzegorz Kossakowski Committer and PMC Member of Apache Cocoon http://reflectingonthevicissitudes.wordpress.com/
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: If Lenya is using it successfully, and if our automated tests pass (I can run them on Linux and MacOSX when the time comes) I'd be ok with making a release. There have been some small changes since 2.1.10, and little is happening in the 2.1 branch, so it might be good to do a release of that. BTW, does anyone want to adopt this orphaned issue? : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-2126 Hoping against hope :-) Florian
Re: lenya 2.0 release preparation - cocoon version dependency (2.1.11?)
Dev at weitling pisze: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: If Lenya is using it successfully, and if our automated tests pass (I can run them on Linux and MacOSX when the time comes) I'd be ok with making a release. There have been some small changes since 2.1.10, and little is happening in the 2.1 branch, so it might be good to do a release of that. BTW, does anyone want to adopt this orphaned issue? : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-2126 Hoping against hope :-) Florian, I completely forgot about this. Since your report looks to be perfect (screenshots, sample files etc.) it should be really appreciated by fixing it. I won't make any promises but since it also affects 2.2 and there is about a month left to planned(?) release of Cocoon 2.1.11 I may have a free time to dig into it. -- Grzegorz Kossakowski Committer and PMC Member of Apache Cocoon http://reflectingonthevicissitudes.wordpress.com/
