Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Yes, the way that conversation unfolded was regretable, muddled, and misleading. I apologize for how that all unfolded. Clearer policies, and documentation, of what kinds of events we are able to support, and exactly how we can support them, are a must going forward. And that's on me. Regarding JBCNConf, I have some tweets scheduled, and will update that as soon as we have a published schedule. I will look to you for help identifying which talks we want to highlight. Thanks. On 2/12/19 4:10 AM, Ignasi Barrera wrote: > Please, s/Ignaci/Ignasi/ > > I've been talking to Jonathan too. As a not-for-profit event, they really > wanted to have some open source community presence there, and they came up > with this new proposal to see if that would make sense for Apache. > > Just to be clear, I'm not mad at anyone, nor I'm unhappy with your > declining to put money into this event. I fully understand the reasons and > I'm the kind of person that understands a no. I was disappointed by how the > conversations here, inside the ASF, were broken and became a real blocker > to shaping a proper collaboration plan. But that doesn't mean I'm mad at > anyone or that I take things personally. I am (and will be) always open to > talk to anyone so please, don't project that image of me, especially on a > public list. > > This said, I felt bad about the poor communication experience we initially > delivered to them, and I offered to join their volunteer group and give a > hand on the organization of the event, so although I will be there, I can't > commit to staffing the booth full-time. I'll be more than happy to help > with the logistics, setting it up (I also still have some stickers and a > feather rollout, if we are allowed to use it), and being there at the booth > when time allows, but I can't commit to staffing it full-time. > > Regarding Twitter, I'd suggest we promote any talk that is about an Apache > project, even if the speaker is not an Apache contributor. The event will > have high-profile speakers and lots of Java Champions, and IMO having > Apache related talks there is a great way to put the projects on the radar > of cool and relevant technologies today (my $0.02 with this regard). > > > You can count on my help, taking into account the mentioned limitations. > > > I. > > > P.S. I also submitted a talk, although it is not related to Apache > > > > On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 22:43, Rich Bowen wrote: > >> If we want to take advantage of the booth, then, yeah, we'd need to find >> someone to staff it. I expect that Ignaci will be attending, but I know >> he's less than happy with us (well, me) about our (my) declining to put >> money into the event, so probably someone else should talk with him >> about it. >> >> On 2/11/19 4:36 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >>> That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the >>> information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared >>> booth? >>> >>> -- >>> Kevin A. McGrail >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen wrote: >>> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that content. --Rich On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > Hi Sharan, > > Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ > > The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. > > Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for every > community represented there. The responsibilities of the community partner > is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is >> this > something the ASF can do? > > NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event > > Regards, > KAM > > -- > Kevin A. McGrail > Member, Apache Software Foundation > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com http://rcbowen.com/ @rbowen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>> >> >> -- >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com >> http://rcbowen.com/ >> @rbowen >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> >> > -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com http://rcbowen.com/ @rbowen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Please, s/Ignaci/Ignasi/ I've been talking to Jonathan too. As a not-for-profit event, they really wanted to have some open source community presence there, and they came up with this new proposal to see if that would make sense for Apache. Just to be clear, I'm not mad at anyone, nor I'm unhappy with your declining to put money into this event. I fully understand the reasons and I'm the kind of person that understands a no. I was disappointed by how the conversations here, inside the ASF, were broken and became a real blocker to shaping a proper collaboration plan. But that doesn't mean I'm mad at anyone or that I take things personally. I am (and will be) always open to talk to anyone so please, don't project that image of me, especially on a public list. This said, I felt bad about the poor communication experience we initially delivered to them, and I offered to join their volunteer group and give a hand on the organization of the event, so although I will be there, I can't commit to staffing the booth full-time. I'll be more than happy to help with the logistics, setting it up (I also still have some stickers and a feather rollout, if we are allowed to use it), and being there at the booth when time allows, but I can't commit to staffing it full-time. Regarding Twitter, I'd suggest we promote any talk that is about an Apache project, even if the speaker is not an Apache contributor. The event will have high-profile speakers and lots of Java Champions, and IMO having Apache related talks there is a great way to put the projects on the radar of cool and relevant technologies today (my $0.02 with this regard). You can count on my help, taking into account the mentioned limitations. I. P.S. I also submitted a talk, although it is not related to Apache On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 22:43, Rich Bowen wrote: > If we want to take advantage of the booth, then, yeah, we'd need to find > someone to staff it. I expect that Ignaci will be attending, but I know > he's less than happy with us (well, me) about our (my) declining to put > money into the event, so probably someone else should talk with him > about it. > > On 2/11/19 4:36 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the > > information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared > > booth? > > > > -- > > Kevin A. McGrail > > Member, Apache Software Foundation > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > > > >> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content > >> scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that > >> content. > >> > >> --Rich > >> > >> On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > >>> Hi Sharan, > >>> > >>> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ > >>> > >>> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. > >>> > >>> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for > >> every > >>> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community > >> partner > >>> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is > this > >>> something the ASF can do? > >>> > >>> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> KAM > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Kevin A. McGrail > >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation > >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com > >> http://rcbowen.com/ > >> @rbowen > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com > http://rcbowen.com/ > @rbowen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
If we want to take advantage of the booth, then, yeah, we'd need to find someone to staff it. I expect that Ignaci will be attending, but I know he's less than happy with us (well, me) about our (my) declining to put money into the event, so probably someone else should talk with him about it. On 2/11/19 4:36 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the > information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared > booth? > > -- > Kevin A. McGrail > Member, Apache Software Foundation > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > >> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content >> scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that >> content. >> >> --Rich >> >> On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >>> Hi Sharan, >>> >>> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ >>> >>> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. >>> >>> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for >> every >>> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community >> partner >>> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this >>> something the ASF can do? >>> >>> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event >>> >>> Regards, >>> KAM >>> >>> -- >>> Kevin A. McGrail >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >>> >> >> -- >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com >> http://rcbowen.com/ >> @rbowen >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> >> > -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com http://rcbowen.com/ @rbowen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
on it. -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:43 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > If we want to take advantage of the booth, then, yeah, we'd need to find > someone to staff it. I expect that Ignaci will be attending, but I know > he's less than happy with us (well, me) about our (my) declining to put > money into the event, so probably someone else should talk with him > about it. > > On 2/11/19 4:36 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the > > information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared > > booth? > > > > -- > > Kevin A. McGrail > > Member, Apache Software Foundation > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > > > >> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content > >> scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that > >> content. > >> > >> --Rich > >> > >> On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > >>> Hi Sharan, > >>> > >>> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ > >>> > >>> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. > >>> > >>> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for > >> every > >>> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community > >> partner > >>> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is > this > >>> something the ASF can do? > >>> > >>> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> KAM > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Kevin A. McGrail > >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation > >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com > >> http://rcbowen.com/ > >> @rbowen > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com > http://rcbowen.com/ > @rbowen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared booth? -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content > scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that > content. > > --Rich > > On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > Hi Sharan, > > > > Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ > > > > The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. > > > > Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for > every > > community represented there. The responsibilities of the community > partner > > is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this > > something the ASF can do? > > > > NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event > > > > Regards, > > KAM > > > > -- > > Kevin A. McGrail > > Member, Apache Software Foundation > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com > http://rcbowen.com/ > @rbowen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that content. --Rich On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > Hi Sharan, > > Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ > > The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. > > Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for every > community represented there. The responsibilities of the community partner > is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this > something the ASF can do? > > NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event > > Regards, > KAM > > -- > Kevin A. McGrail > Member, Apache Software Foundation > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com http://rcbowen.com/ @rbowen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Hi Kevin Yes it was the one I thought it was. Here is the link to the discussion thread we previously had about it. https://s.apache.org/sMqD We need to get an update to see what the status is of the potential co-location too. Thanks Sharan On 2019/02/11 21:27:10, sha...@apache.org wrote: > Hi Kevin > > Thanks for the email and this actually seems familiar. If its the event > I'm thinking of they might have already approached us to have an Apache > track or something. Let me check with Ignasi just in case I've got mixed up. > > Thanks > Sharan > > On 11. 02. 19 22:22, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > Hi Sharan, > > > > Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ > > > > The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. > > > > Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for > > every community represented there. The responsibilities of the > > community partner is to share the conference with members to help with > > promotion. Is this something the ASF can do? > > > > NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event > > > > Regards, > > KAM > > > > -- > > Kevin A. McGrail > > Member, Apache Software Foundation > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Your memory is correct. This is the same event that Ignasi approached us about. It just wasn't a fit for the ASF Model for conferences. Regards, KAM -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:27 PM wrote: > Hi Kevin > > Thanks for the email and this actually seems familiar. If its the event > I'm thinking of they might have already approached us to have an Apache > track or something. Let me check with Ignasi just in case I've got mixed up. > > Thanks > Sharan > > On 11. 02. 19 22:22, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > Hi Sharan, > > Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ > > The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. > > Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for every > community represented there. The responsibilities of the community partner > is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this > something the ASF can do? > > NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event > > Regards, > KAM > > -- > Kevin A. McGrail > Member, Apache Software Foundation > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > >
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Hi Kevin Thanks for the email and this actually seems familiar. If its the event I'm thinking of they might have already approached us to have an Apache track or something. Let me check with Ignasi just in case I've got mixed up. Thanks Sharan On 11. 02. 19 22:22, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Hi Sharan, Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for every community represented there. The responsibilities of the community partner is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this something the ASF can do? NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event Regards, KAM -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
