Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-11 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Sunday, March 7, 2004 6:28 PM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'k, then this is probably why I can't recreate it, since the ads.postgresql.org stuff itself keeps the hits pretty continous ... Yup. FWIW, I just tested against -STABLE as of Mar 11th (Brian just upgraded

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Querna
On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 18:50, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Actually, I think it might have been fixed ... On my Jan 6th FreeBSD server, I am getting weird responses with threading enabled, but two of my others ones (Jan 23rd nd Feb 4th) both seem to be working consistently ... On my 4.9-STABLE

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Paul Querna wrote: On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 18:50, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Actually, I think it might have been fixed ... On my Jan 6th FreeBSD server, I am getting weird responses with threading enabled, but two of my others ones (Jan 23rd nd Feb 4th) both seem to be

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Querna
On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 13:50, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Now, from the way that Justin explains it, its possible that the hits are continous enough not to exhibit the problem? How are you testing this? I can do it with just a simple telnet or with Firefox. I don't understand how you can even 'pass'

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Sunday, March 7, 2004 4:50 PM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, from the way that Justin explains it, its possible that the hits are continous enough not to exhibit the problem? Correct. As long as there is traffic on the server, it'll appear to function. However, the

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Paul Querna wrote: How are you testing this? By using it ... I have ads.postgresql.org pointing at both servers ... they are hte banner ads running on http://www.postgresql.org ... on my one server (older version of 4.9-STABLE, the whole process does lock up after a bit),

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Sunday, March 7, 2004 4:50 PM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, from the way that Justin explains it, its possible that the hits are continous enough not to exhibit the problem? Correct. As long as there is traffic on

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I also know that I checked this a few months ago on minotaur (ASF's CVS server), which is running 4.9-STABLE (from Nov 29 2003). So, if it got fixed, it's probably after that as it was still broken then. Actually, I think it might have been fixed

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: What we believed was that it was related to race conditions inside the OS scheduler handler where our poll calls got mixed up with the scheduler's polls. We had it tracked down to some gnarly stuff inside the libc_r scheduler and gave up... Note

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Tuesday, March 2, 2004 11:47 AM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that *BSD is looking at a 4.10 RSN, and I'm trying to fight for trying to get this fixed, if its possible, which is why I'm trying to come up with some data to fight with ... Is there anywhere that there is

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Sunday, February 29, 2004 4:06 PM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: k, if I'm understanding what you are saying, how do you test something like that in a way that you can debug it? What I'm reading is that if I sent two

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-03-01 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Monday, March 1, 2004 11:37 AM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so I've effectively 'pounded' the server, followed by a telnet session to the same server doing a 'GET /' and it returned right away: See below, I think you only have one worker process running. You need

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-02-29 Thread Paul Querna
On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 23:59, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Note that this is fixed on FreeBSD 5.2+ with either libkse or libthr. libc_r, the default in 5.2, still doesn't work - you have to use libmap.conf, etc. btw, libkse is now the default for -CURRENT, which means for the 5.3 Release end

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-02-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:05 PM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone mentioned to me once that there is an easy/consistent way to trigger the thread bug where you have 2+ workers in operation ... Can someone

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-02-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:29 PM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'k, how do you manage 'simultaneously? I tried using http_load with -rate set to 10, and couldn't lock it up, and its supposed to start up 10 connections per sec, if I read the docs right ... You probably

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-02-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
yOn Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:29 PM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'k, how do you manage 'simultaneously? I tried using http_load with -rate set to 10, and couldn't lock it up, and its supposed to start up 10

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-02-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Sunday, February 29, 2004 4:06 PM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: k, if I'm understanding what you are saying, how do you test something like that in a way that you can debug it? What I'm reading is that if I sent two queries (GET / and, say, GET /subdir), there is a chance

Re: FreeBSD 4.x and Apache2: worker MPM issue

2004-02-28 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:05 PM -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone mentioned to me once that there is an easy/consistent way to trigger the thread bug where you have 2+ workers in operation ... Can someone send me a how to on this? Just issue two GET requests