Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-04 Thread Jorg Heymans
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu wrote:
 Something like duplicate dependencies likely means you have a real
 problem you didn't know about in your poms. I think failing is
 appropriate in this case.

I fail to grok what you just said there. So if i have in my pom

dependency
  groupIdjavax.persistence/groupId
  artifactIdpersistence-api/artifactId
  version1.0/version
/dependency

and then 25 other dependencies and then again the one above (due to a
copy-paste oversight let's say) then I have a real problem in my build
you say. How is it different from unused and declared dependencies, or
used and undeclared ? For me these all fit in the same boat ie
'potential build optimizations'

Jorg

PS how about a dependency:scan-duplicates then ?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-04 Thread Brian Fox
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Jorg Heymans jorg.heym...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu wrote:
 Something like duplicate dependencies likely means you have a real
 problem you didn't know about in your poms. I think failing is
 appropriate in this case.

 I fail to grok what you just said there. So if i have in my pom

    dependency
      groupIdjavax.persistence/groupId
      artifactIdpersistence-api/artifactId
      version1.0/version
    /dependency

 and then 25 other dependencies and then again the one above (due to a
 copy-paste oversight let's say) then I have a real problem in my build
 you say. How is it different from unused and declared dependencies, or
 used and undeclared ?

Yes that is a problem because if you later go to upgrade to 1.2,
you're most likely going to find the first instance and change it, but
you're still going to get 1.0 because last time I checked, it was last
wins. This is a hidden cancer in your pom that will bite you later.

How is it different than undeclared dependencies? It's slightly worse
because you have a false sense of security by having it specified.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Jorg Heymans
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann
benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote:
 Jorg Heymans wrote:

 [ERROR]   The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT
 (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error
 [ERROR]
 'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)'
 must be unique: junit:junit:jar - duplicate declaration of version
 3.8.2

 Shall i log an issue for this or is this a known feature ?

 The error itself is by design and is part of overall stricter POM
 validation. If the cause isn't present in the current POM, it must be
 present in one of its parents. mvn ... -e should tell more but I will look
 into improving the message for the next release.

I can understand the need for stricter pom validation, but is it
really necessary to fail a build completely just because a dependency
is declared twice ? It seems a bit harsh. A big [WARNING] seems more
appropriate. Will m3 also fail builds for this one then: [WARNING]
Using platform encoding (Cp1252 actually) to copy filtered resources,
i.e. build is platform dependent!

IMO most knowledgeable people react on warnings more positive, so more
like ah cool m3 spotted a potential hazard so lets go and fix this
instead of why the heck is m3 not able to build my project, lets
revert to m2. Debatable, but that's how i see it.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans jorg.heym...@gmail.com

 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann
 benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote:
  Jorg Heymans wrote:
 
  [ERROR]   The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT
  (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error
  [ERROR]
 
 'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)'
  must be unique: junit:junit:jar - duplicate declaration of version
  3.8.2
 
  Shall i log an issue for this or is this a known feature ?
 
  The error itself is by design and is part of overall stricter POM
  validation. If the cause isn't present in the current POM, it must be
  present in one of its parents. mvn ... -e should tell more but I will
 look
  into improving the message for the next release.

 I can understand the need for stricter pom validation, but is it
 really necessary to fail a build completely just because a dependency
 is declared twice ? It seems a bit harsh.


Actually, I'm liking this build failing on double dependencies.


 A big [WARNING] seems more
 appropriate. Will m3 also fail builds for this one then: [WARNING]
 Using platform encoding (Cp1252 actually) to copy filtered resources,
 i.e. build is platform dependent!

 IMO most knowledgeable people react on warnings more positive, so more
 like ah cool m3 spotted a potential hazard so lets go and fix this
 instead of why the heck is m3 not able to build my project, lets
 revert to m2. Debatable, but that's how i see it.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Jorg Heymans
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans jorg.heym...@gmail.com

 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann
 benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote:
  Jorg Heymans wrote:
 
  [ERROR]   The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT
  (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error
  [ERROR]
 
 'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)'
  must be unique: junit:junit:jar - duplicate declaration of version
  3.8.2
 
  Shall i log an issue for this or is this a known feature ?
 
  The error itself is by design and is part of overall stricter POM
  validation. If the cause isn't present in the current POM, it must be
  present in one of its parents. mvn ... -e should tell more but I will
 look
  into improving the message for the next release.

 I can understand the need for stricter pom validation, but is it
 really necessary to fail a build completely just because a dependency
 is declared twice ? It seems a bit harsh.


 Actually, I'm liking this build failing on double dependencies.

Any particular reason or do you get a kick out of scanning 60+ module
reactor builds for duplicates ? :-P

Jorg

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans jorg.heym...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
  2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans jorg.heym...@gmail.com
 
  On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann
  benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote:
   Jorg Heymans wrote:
  
   [ERROR]   The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT
   (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error
   [ERROR]
  
 
 'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)'
   must be unique: junit:junit:jar - duplicate declaration of version
   3.8.2
  
   Shall i log an issue for this or is this a known feature ?
  
   The error itself is by design and is part of overall stricter POM
   validation. If the cause isn't present in the current POM, it must be
   present in one of its parents. mvn ... -e should tell more but I
 will
  look
   into improving the message for the next release.
 
  I can understand the need for stricter pom validation, but is it
  really necessary to fail a build completely just because a dependency
  is declared twice ? It seems a bit harsh.
 
 
  Actually, I'm liking this build failing on double dependencies.

 Any particular reason or do you get a kick out of scanning 60+ module
 reactor builds for duplicates ? :-P


I've got most of my projects down to no duplicates... the error stops it
happening again!

Perhaps we should have 2.2.2 start issuing the warning though! Or maybe a
CLI option for 3.0 such as --no-strict-pom-validation



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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
2009/12/3 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com



 2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans jorg.heym...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
  2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans jorg.heym...@gmail.com
 
  On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann
  benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote:
   Jorg Heymans wrote:
  
   [ERROR]   The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT
   (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error
   [ERROR]
  
 
 'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)'
   must be unique: junit:junit:jar - duplicate declaration of version
   3.8.2
  
   Shall i log an issue for this or is this a known feature ?
  
   The error itself is by design and is part of overall stricter POM
   validation. If the cause isn't present in the current POM, it must be
   present in one of its parents. mvn ... -e should tell more but I
 will
  look
   into improving the message for the next release.
 
  I can understand the need for stricter pom validation, but is it
  really necessary to fail a build completely just because a dependency
  is declared twice ? It seems a bit harsh.
 
 
  Actually, I'm liking this build failing on double dependencies.

 Any particular reason or do you get a kick out of scanning 60+ module
 reactor builds for duplicates ? :-P


 I've got most of my projects down to no duplicates... the error stops it
 happening again!

 Perhaps we should have 2.2.2 start issuing the warning though! Or maybe a
 CLI option for 3.0 such as --no-strict-pom-validation


actually much better is something like

--yes-i-am-a-bold-developer-and-i-know-i-should-remove-duplicate-dependencies-but-give-me-a-break

that way you're _encouraged_ to fix it fast

;-)





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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-25 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Paul Gier pg...@redhat.com wrote:
 I wonder if we really need a full vote for every alpha.  Especially if this
 is going to happen every two weeks.  Why not just vote for a 2 week alpha
 release schedule and then don't do another vote until it's time for beta 1?

The ASF requires a vote on the artifacts being released. You can't
just sign a blank cheque for any future release. On that basis someone
could put something that isn't allowed (e.g. a copy of some GPL code)
into maven and then just cut an alpha release.

I tried to find something in the ASF docs, but the release FAQ only
says Each PMC must obey the ASF requirements on approving any
release - but I can't find something that specifically says what the
requirements on approving any release are.

http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html

Niall

 Benjamin Bentmann wrote:

 Hi,

 We solved some more issues:

 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=14952

 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:

 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500status=1

 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/

 Staged source and binary distros:

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-alpha-5/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Vote open for 72 hours.

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 [ ] -1

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-24 Thread Jorg Heymans
Tried it out on our project, and i'm getting this:

[ERROR]   The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT
(D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error
[ERROR] 
'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)'
must be unique: junit:junit:jar - duplicate declaration of version
3.8.2

I can understand what this is trying to say, but the pom in question
is only a module pom that has no dependencies declared:

  parent
groupIdmy.group/groupId
artifactIdparent/artifactId
version19-SNAPSHOT/version
  /parent
  modelVersion4.0.0/modelVersion
  artifactIdbuild-tools/artifactId
  packagingpom/packaging
  version1-SNAPSHOT/version
  modules
moduleant/module
modulemaven/module
  /modules

Shall i log an issue for this or is this a known feature ? The output
of -e does not reveal anything useful besides lots of expression
${pom.version} is deprecated. Please use ${project.version} instead,
wierd thing is i'm never actually using expressions in my project.


Jorg

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Igor Fedorenko i...@ifedorenko.com wrote:
 +1

 --
 Regards,
 Igor

 Benjamin Bentmann wrote:

 Hi,

 We solved some more issues:

 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=14952

 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:

 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500status=1

 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/

 Staged source and binary distros:

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-alpha-5/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Vote open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1
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 [ ] -1

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-24 Thread Benjamin Bentmann

Jorg Heymans wrote:


[ERROR]   The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT
(D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error
[ERROR] 
'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)'
must be unique: junit:junit:jar - duplicate declaration of version
3.8.2

Shall i log an issue for this or is this a known feature ?


The error itself is by design and is part of overall stricter POM 
validation. If the cause isn't present in the current POM, it must be 
present in one of its parents. mvn ... -e should tell more but I will 
look into improving the message for the next release.



[...] lots of expression
${pom.version} is deprecated. Please use ${project.version} instead,
wierd thing is i'm never actually using expressions in my project.


As said, likely due to one of the parents from which you inherit.


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-24 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1

2009/11/23 Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu:
 Hi,

 We solved some more issues:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=14952

 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500status=1

 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/

 Staged source and binary distros:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-alpha-5/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Jason van Zyl

+1

On 2009-11-23, at 11:33 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:


Hi,

We solved some more issues:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=14952

There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500status=1

Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/

Staged source and binary distros:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-alpha-5/

Guide to testing staged releases:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
+1

Arnaud Héritier
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Jason van Zyl ja...@maven.org wrote:

 +1


 On 2009-11-23, at 11:33 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:

  Hi,

 We solved some more issues:

 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=14952

 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:

 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500status=1

 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/

 Staged source and binary distros:

 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-alpha-5/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread nicolas de loof
+1

2009/11/23 Arnaud HERITIER aherit...@gmail.com

 +1

 Arnaud Héritier
 Software Factory Manager
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 ---
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 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Jason van Zyl ja...@maven.org wrote:

  +1
 
 
  On 2009-11-23, at 11:33 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
  We solved some more issues:
 
 
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=14952
 
  There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
 
 
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500status=1
 
  Staging repo:
  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/
 
  Staged source and binary distros:
 
 
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-alpha-5/
 
  Guide to testing staged releases:
  http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
 
  Vote open for 72 hours.
 
  [ ] +1
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  [ ] -1
 
  +1 from me
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1

2009/11/23 nicolas de loof nicolas.del...@gmail.com:
 +1

 2009/11/23 Arnaud HERITIER aherit...@gmail.com

 +1

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 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Jason van Zyl ja...@maven.org wrote:

  +1
 
 
  On 2009-11-23, at 11:33 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
  We solved some more issues:
 
 
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=14952
 
  There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
 
 
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500status=1
 
  Staging repo:
  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/
 
  Staged source and binary distros:
 
 
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-alpha-5/
 
  Guide to testing staged releases:
  http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
 
  Vote open for 72 hours.
 
  [ ] +1
  [ ] +0
  [ ] -1
 
  +1 from me
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Paul Gier
I wonder if we really need a full vote for every alpha.  Especially if this is 
going to happen every two weeks.  Why not just vote for a 2 week alpha release 
schedule and then don't do another vote until it's time for beta 1?


Benjamin Bentmann wrote:

Hi,

We solved some more issues:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=14952 



There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500status=1 



Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/

Staged source and binary distros:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-alpha-5/ 



Guide to testing staged releases:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Igor Fedorenko

+1

--
Regards,
Igor

Benjamin Bentmann wrote:

Hi,

We solved some more issues:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500version=14952 



There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500status=1 



Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/

Staged source and binary distros:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-018/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.0-alpha-5/ 



Guide to testing staged releases:
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