Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-11 Thread zeo...@gmail.com
I use both screens frequently on prod clusters.  I don't know how prevalent
that use case is though.

Jon

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 7:33 AM Shane Ardell 
wrote:

> Good point, Otto. Just posted there now.
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Otto Fowler 
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe you should post to the users@ list
> >
> >
> > On March 11, 2019 at 06:25:48, Shane Ardell (shane.m.ard...@gmail.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
> > sense.
> >
> > However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has
> direct
> > user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
> > screens.
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick <
> rmckiss...@hortonworks.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> > > persona.
> > > And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a
> need
> > > for either of these
> > > personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> > > two UIs would
> > > be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
> > >
> > > As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch
> between
> > > the two UIs, but I'm not
> > > really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
> > >
> > > Rita
> > >
> > > Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> > > rmckiss...@hortonworks.com
> > > (mobile) 831-234-3676 <(831)%20234-3676>
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> > > (soc
> > > analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> > > architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> > > I'd
> > > be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> > > useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> > > in both
> > > > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> > > the two
> > > > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> > > separate
> > > > tabs from Ambari.
> > > >
> > > > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> > > we want
> > > > in Metron?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
-- 

Jon Zeolla


Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-11 Thread Shane Ardell
Good point, Otto. Just posted there now.

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Otto Fowler 
wrote:

> Maybe you should post to the users@ list
>
>
> On March 11, 2019 at 06:25:48, Shane Ardell (shane.m.ard...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
> sense.
>
> However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has direct
> user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
> screens.
>
> Shane
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick 
> wrote:
>
> > That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> > persona.
> > And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need
> > for either of these
> > personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> > two UIs would
> > be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
> >
> > As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between
> > the two UIs, but I'm not
> > really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
> >
> > Rita
> >
> > Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> > rmckiss...@hortonworks.com
> > (mobile) 831-234-3676
> >
> >
> > On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> > (soc
> > analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> > architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> > I'd
> > be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> > useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> > in both
> > > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> > the two
> > > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> > separate
> > > tabs from Ambari.
> > >
> > > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> > we want
> > > in Metron?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-11 Thread Otto Fowler
Maybe you should post to the users@ list


On March 11, 2019 at 06:25:48, Shane Ardell (shane.m.ard...@gmail.com)
wrote:

Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
sense.

However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has direct
user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
screens.

Shane

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick 
wrote:

> That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> persona.
> And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need
> for either of these
> personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> two UIs would
> be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
>
> As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between
> the two UIs, but I'm not
> really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
>
> Rita
>
> Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> rmckiss...@hortonworks.com
> (mobile) 831-234-3676
>
>
> On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" 
> wrote:
>
> The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> (soc
> analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> I'd
> be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
>
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> in both
> > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> the two
> > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> separate
> > tabs from Ambari.
> >
> > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> we want
> > in Metron?
> >
>
>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-11 Thread Shane Ardell
Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
sense.

However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has direct
user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
screens.

Shane

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick 
wrote:

> That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> persona.
> And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need
> for either of these
> personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> two UIs would
> be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
>
> As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between
> the two UIs, but I'm not
> really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
>
> Rita
>
> Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> rmckiss...@hortonworks.com
> (mobile) 831-234-3676
>
>
> On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" 
> wrote:
>
> The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> (soc
> analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> I'd
> be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
>
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> in both
> > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> the two
> > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> separate
> > tabs from Ambari.
> >
> > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> we want
> > in Metron?
> >
>
>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-05 Thread Rita McKissick
That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations persona.
And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need for 
either of these
personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the two UIs 
would
be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.

As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between the 
two UIs, but I'm not
really one of our supported personas __ Darn!

Rita

Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
rmckiss...@hortonworks.com
(mobile) 831-234-3676


On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic"  wrote:

The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles (soc
analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I'd
be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.

Mike

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar in 
both
> the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between the 
two
> UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening separate
> tabs from Ambari.
>
> I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something we want
> in Metron?
>




Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-05 Thread Michael Miklavcic
The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles (soc
analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I'd
be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.

Mike

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar in both
> the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between the two
> UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening separate
> tabs from Ambari.
>
> I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something we want
> in Metron?
>


[DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-05 Thread Shane Ardell
Hello everyone,

I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar in both
the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between the two
UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening separate
tabs from Ambari.

I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something we want
in Metron?