Re: Quarterly Board Report
Hi Patrick and Henry, Thank you, let me make a list from your guidance to conduct our future actions, please review it and correct me if any, Thanks. 1) to release Apache Mnemonic incubating frequently Gary: would propose to release it once have features added or major bugs fixed to increase the frequency of project releasing. 2) to invite diversified contributors to our community Gary: improve the documentation and post blogs/news/updates on social media. 3) to integrate with more Open-source projects as possible Gary: integrate with other projects by developing their 3rd party component/module/service if their architecture supports this way. Very truly yours +Gary On 12/12/2016 11:40 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > Just saw the updated report and signed off on it. > > Agree with Patrick. The podling need to make more releases, and add more > contributors. > > Like Yanping has said, need to add more integration with existing open > source projects, like maybe with Apache HBase, Apache Flink or Apache Spark. > > - Henry > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Those are great goals, however the only things really gating graduation at >> this point IMO (other mentors can chime in if they feel otw) is; 1) >> continue driving releases, esp with different release managers to show that >> a number of people understand "the Apache way" (one aspect granted), 2) >> increase community involvement, esp diversity (typically we talk about this >> in terms of not having a single company represented, but overall diversity >> is a good goal as well) in committer/pmc membership. >> >> Regards, >> >> Patrick >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Patrick >>> >>> Thank you very much for your guiding and advice, I have corrected that as >>> follows. >>> >>> 2. Introduced women developers to our incubating project. >>> 3. Improved dev. docker to facilitate development. >>> 4. provided information to potential customers e.g. bank user, other >>> Apache project's committers >>> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 >>> >>> Please review it again, Thanks ! >>> >>> Very truly yours, >>> +Gary >>> >>> >>> On 12/5/2016 12:46 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: >>>> I signed off on the report. One thing I noticed is that you list your >>> "top >>>> 3 for graduation", however that's not really what's gating your >>> graduation. >>>> Please review >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.htm >>> l#Graduating+from+the+Incubator >>>> Item 1 in your report is on point (experience delivering releases, >>> ensuring >>>> apache release guidelines/requirements are followed) however the other >>> two >>>> are not gaiting your graduation. I would say instead that building >>>> community (including committers/pmc) and increasing diversity, so that >>> you >>>> can stand alone as a TLP, is missing. >>>> >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi PMCs and Developers >>>>> >>>>> We have submitted the quarterly board report as follows, Please >> review, >>>>> feedback and approve this report, Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 >>>>> >>>>> Very truly yours, >>>>> +Gary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Quarterly Board Report
Just saw the updated report and signed off on it. Agree with Patrick. The podling need to make more releases, and add more contributors. Like Yanping has said, need to add more integration with existing open source projects, like maybe with Apache HBase, Apache Flink or Apache Spark. - Henry On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > Those are great goals, however the only things really gating graduation at > this point IMO (other mentors can chime in if they feel otw) is; 1) > continue driving releases, esp with different release managers to show that > a number of people understand "the Apache way" (one aspect granted), 2) > increase community involvement, esp diversity (typically we talk about this > in terms of not having a single company represented, but overall diversity > is a good goal as well) in committer/pmc membership. > > Regards, > > Patrick > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi Patrick > > > > Thank you very much for your guiding and advice, I have corrected that as > > follows. > > > > 2. Introduced women developers to our incubating project. > > 3. Improved dev. docker to facilitate development. > > 4. provided information to potential customers e.g. bank user, other > > Apache project's committers > > > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 > > > > Please review it again, Thanks ! > > > > Very truly yours, > > +Gary > > > > > > On 12/5/2016 12:46 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > > > I signed off on the report. One thing I noticed is that you list your > > "top > > > 3 for graduation", however that's not really what's gating your > > graduation. > > > Please review > > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.htm > > l#Graduating+from+the+Incubator > > > > > > Item 1 in your report is on point (experience delivering releases, > > ensuring > > > apache release guidelines/requirements are followed) however the other > > two > > > are not gaiting your graduation. I would say instead that building > > > community (including committers/pmc) and increasing diversity, so that > > you > > > can stand alone as a TLP, is missing. > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi PMCs and Developers > > >> > > >> We have submitted the quarterly board report as follows, Please > review, > > >> feedback and approve this report, Thanks! > > >> > > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 > > >> > > >> Very truly yours, > > >> +Gary > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >
Re: Quarterly Board Report
Those are great goals, however the only things really gating graduation at this point IMO (other mentors can chime in if they feel otw) is; 1) continue driving releases, esp with different release managers to show that a number of people understand "the Apache way" (one aspect granted), 2) increase community involvement, esp diversity (typically we talk about this in terms of not having a single company represented, but overall diversity is a good goal as well) in committer/pmc membership. Regards, Patrick On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Patrick > > Thank you very much for your guiding and advice, I have corrected that as > follows. > > 2. Introduced women developers to our incubating project. > 3. Improved dev. docker to facilitate development. > 4. provided information to potential customers e.g. bank user, other > Apache project's committers > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 > > Please review it again, Thanks ! > > Very truly yours, > +Gary > > > On 12/5/2016 12:46 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > > I signed off on the report. One thing I noticed is that you list your > "top > > 3 for graduation", however that's not really what's gating your > graduation. > > Please review > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.htm > l#Graduating+from+the+Incubator > > > > Item 1 in your report is on point (experience delivering releases, > ensuring > > apache release guidelines/requirements are followed) however the other > two > > are not gaiting your graduation. I would say instead that building > > community (including committers/pmc) and increasing diversity, so that > you > > can stand alone as a TLP, is missing. > > > > Patrick > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi PMCs and Developers > >> > >> We have submitted the quarterly board report as follows, Please review, > >> feedback and approve this report, Thanks! > >> > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 > >> > >> Very truly yours, > >> +Gary > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
Re: Quarterly Board Report
Hi Yanping, Thank you very much, I have removed that item as you suggested. Regarding the Hbase, I think how about to consult their community to find out what we can help ? For the use cases, Yes, I understood your concerns, according to my observation, it seems no urgent to fully adopt the new concepts/models proposed by Mnemonic if the hardware platform is not yet ready as we expected. but we believe that it will come soon, for now, my 2 cents, we could put our limited resources on improving the quality and adding essential features to Mnemonic. As we known, to address the performance issues is tend to be obscure and complicated, the Mnemonic might help to foster new architecture to overcome some of performance bottlenecks for data processing and engineering, so probably It looks not much straightforward to understand or use, but we are trying to improve the documentation and examples as well as hoping more developers could help our community to grow. Thanks. Very truly yours, +Gary On 12/5/2016 9:00 PM, Yanping Wang wrote: > Hi, Gary > > For the items listed, the project needs to have a execution plan. > I suggest you remove "Introduced women developers to our incubating > project." all developers are equal, there is no difference between women > and men developers. > > I think the most important action item for this project is integration, ie. > find use cases, prove this project is useful.How's integration with HBase > going? > > You already developed this project with many features, but there is no > substantial use cases to show how to use this project. Many people even in > this dev list do not understand this project, and don't know how to use > this project. How to improve that? maybe an successful use case integration > would help. > > Thanks > yanping > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi Patrick >> >> Thank you very much for your guiding and advice, I have corrected that as >> follows. >> >> 2. Introduced women developers to our incubating project. >> 3. Improved dev. docker to facilitate development. >> 4. provided information to potential customers e.g. bank user, other >> Apache project's committers >> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 >> >> Please review it again, Thanks ! >> >> Very truly yours, >> +Gary >> >> >> On 12/5/2016 12:46 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: >>> I signed off on the report. One thing I noticed is that you list your >> "top >>> 3 for graduation", however that's not really what's gating your >> graduation. >>> Please review >>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy. >> html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator >>> Item 1 in your report is on point (experience delivering releases, >> ensuring >>> apache release guidelines/requirements are followed) however the other >> two >>> are not gaiting your graduation. I would say instead that building >>> community (including committers/pmc) and increasing diversity, so that >> you >>> can stand alone as a TLP, is missing. >>> >>> Patrick >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi PMCs and Developers >>>> >>>> We have submitted the quarterly board report as follows, Please review, >>>> feedback and approve this report, Thanks! >>>> >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 >>>> >>>> Very truly yours, >>>> +Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Quarterly Board Report
Hi, Gary For the items listed, the project needs to have a execution plan. I suggest you remove "Introduced women developers to our incubating project." all developers are equal, there is no difference between women and men developers. I think the most important action item for this project is integration, ie. find use cases, prove this project is useful.How's integration with HBase going? You already developed this project with many features, but there is no substantial use cases to show how to use this project. Many people even in this dev list do not understand this project, and don't know how to use this project. How to improve that? maybe an successful use case integration would help. Thanks yanping On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Patrick > > Thank you very much for your guiding and advice, I have corrected that as > follows. > > 2. Introduced women developers to our incubating project. > 3. Improved dev. docker to facilitate development. > 4. provided information to potential customers e.g. bank user, other > Apache project's committers > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 > > Please review it again, Thanks ! > > Very truly yours, > +Gary > > > On 12/5/2016 12:46 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > > I signed off on the report. One thing I noticed is that you list your > "top > > 3 for graduation", however that's not really what's gating your > graduation. > > Please review > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy. > html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator > > > > Item 1 in your report is on point (experience delivering releases, > ensuring > > apache release guidelines/requirements are followed) however the other > two > > are not gaiting your graduation. I would say instead that building > > community (including committers/pmc) and increasing diversity, so that > you > > can stand alone as a TLP, is missing. > > > > Patrick > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi PMCs and Developers > >> > >> We have submitted the quarterly board report as follows, Please review, > >> feedback and approve this report, Thanks! > >> > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 > >> > >> Very truly yours, > >> +Gary > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
Re: Quarterly Board Report
Hi Patrick Thank you very much for your guiding and advice, I have corrected that as follows. 2. Introduced women developers to our incubating project. 3. Improved dev. docker to facilitate development. 4. provided information to potential customers e.g. bank user, other Apache project's committers https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 Please review it again, Thanks ! Very truly yours, +Gary On 12/5/2016 12:46 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > I signed off on the report. One thing I noticed is that you list your "top > 3 for graduation", however that's not really what's gating your graduation. > Please review > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator > > Item 1 in your report is on point (experience delivering releases, ensuring > apache release guidelines/requirements are followed) however the other two > are not gaiting your graduation. I would say instead that building > community (including committers/pmc) and increasing diversity, so that you > can stand alone as a TLP, is missing. > > Patrick > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi PMCs and Developers >> >> We have submitted the quarterly board report as follows, Please review, >> feedback and approve this report, Thanks! >> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 >> >> Very truly yours, >> +Gary >> >> >> >> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Quarterly Board Report
I signed off on the report. One thing I noticed is that you list your "top 3 for graduation", however that's not really what's gating your graduation. Please review http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator Item 1 in your report is on point (experience delivering releases, ensuring apache release guidelines/requirements are followed) however the other two are not gaiting your graduation. I would say instead that building community (including committers/pmc) and increasing diversity, so that you can stand alone as a TLP, is missing. Patrick On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Gary <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi PMCs and Developers > > We have submitted the quarterly board report as follows, Please review, > feedback and approve this report, Thanks! > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 > > Very truly yours, > +Gary > > > >
Quarterly Board Report
Hi PMCs and Developers We have submitted the quarterly board report as follows, Please review, feedback and approve this report, Thanks! https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 Very truly yours, +Gary signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature