Re: VSNetBeans 20.0.301 release

2024-01-03 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 10:55, Martin Balin  wrote:
> What is the branch time for NetBeans 21?

Same date - Jan 15th -
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

If it's me doing it, I tend to always do the first Monday on or after
the date as that makes things easier.  It happens the Monday is 15th
this time.

> Yes, I would like to do this release of VSNetBeans as the bug fixes and 
> features accumulated over time in master are needed. It will help us a lot, 
> thanks for understanding. And I’ll take care of release.
> >
> > The criteria for choosing when a VSNetBeans release is made feels
> > entirely opaque from an Apache perspective.  I've asked before whether
> > we should rethink schedules for the IDE as a whole, or split off
> > release scheduling for VSNetBeans entirely?  Are there benefits to
> > having a separate repository, milestones and tracking for VSNetBeans?
> I remember this question. It did not draw too much attention ...

Well, the question was mostly aimed at you!

Sure, VSNetBeans releases can and should help you.  It is also an ASF
project, and needs to be managed as one.  I'm just suggesting we need
to find the right balance where major decision making is not being
made elsewhere or by a single organisation.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: VSNetBeans 20.0.301 release

2024-01-03 Thread Martin Balin
Hi Neil,

> On 3. 1. 2024, at 11:05, Neil C Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 07:55, Martin Balin  wrote:
>> I’m planning to do just VSNetBeans release around Jan 15th, versioned 
>> 20.0.301.
>> NetBeans VSCode gathered number of fixes and improvements over last 2 months 
>> …
> 
> Assuming we branch on time for NB21, that means that the first release
> candidate for VSNetBeans 21 will be available before this release.  Do
> we really need to do this?
What is the branch time for NetBeans 21?
Yes, I would like to do this release of VSNetBeans as the bug fixes and 
features accumulated over time in master are needed. It will help us a lot, 
thanks for understanding. And I’ll take care of release.
> 
> The criteria for choosing when a VSNetBeans release is made feels
> entirely opaque from an Apache perspective.  I've asked before whether
> we should rethink schedules for the IDE as a whole, or split off
> release scheduling for VSNetBeans entirely?  Are there benefits to
> having a separate repository, milestones and tracking for VSNetBeans?
I remember this question. It did not draw too much attention ...
> 
> Please make sure to take into account the issue that became apparent
> leading from https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6583 too. Either
> you need to swap to using the main NetBeans build, or the current
> VSCode build job needs adapting.  It needs to use ant
> build-source-config for release (not full), and to build the binary
> from that source.  The last 0.301 source release of VSNetBeans had
> code in it that shouldn't have been there.
Yes, I will make sure this is now built according to release requirements
thank you
Martin
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Neil
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Re: VSNetBeans 20.0.301 release

2024-01-03 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi Martin,

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 07:55, Martin Balin  wrote:
> I’m planning to do just VSNetBeans release around Jan 15th, versioned 
> 20.0.301.
> NetBeans VSCode gathered number of fixes and improvements over last 2 months …

Assuming we branch on time for NB21, that means that the first release
candidate for VSNetBeans 21 will be available before this release.  Do
we really need to do this?

The criteria for choosing when a VSNetBeans release is made feels
entirely opaque from an Apache perspective.  I've asked before whether
we should rethink schedules for the IDE as a whole, or split off
release scheduling for VSNetBeans entirely?  Are there benefits to
having a separate repository, milestones and tracking for VSNetBeans?

Please make sure to take into account the issue that became apparent
leading from https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/6583 too. Either
you need to swap to using the main NetBeans build, or the current
VSCode build job needs adapting.  It needs to use ant
build-source-config for release (not full), and to build the binary
from that source.  The last 0.301 source release of VSNetBeans had
code in it that shouldn't have been there.

Thanks,

Neil

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