Re: Draft Blog Post: You Can Help Us Improve OpenOffice by Helping Us Test

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 06/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=you_can_help_us_improve Thanks, the final version at https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/you_can_help_us_improve is very good and useful to the project, like everything else you've published on the OpenOffice blog

Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion

2012-11-15 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
We used Google Moderator before and it is really nice thing to use. I like the base of the idea, but I have one question what about the questions coming from users through the user(s)@ mailing list ? Would that make them feel isolated in case some of them would not like to use Google Moderator for

Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion

2012-11-15 Thread Ross Gardler
Joining a mailing list means signing up and wading through lots of emails one is not interested in. This proposal is a way to reach out to people who have a question but not the desire to engage with the community. There is no risk of isolation since these people wont come to those chanels. Note

Re: Hello from Acrolinx

2012-11-15 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi Robert, On 14.11.2012 09:55, Robert Barbey wrote: Hi everyone, since my colleagues and I started writing a plug-in for OpenOffice Writer I wanted to let you guys know what we're trying to achieve with it. My company's main product is a client-server-based tool that assists authors in

Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion

2012-11-15 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: Joining a mailing list means signing up and wading through lots of emails one is not interested in. This proposal is a way to reach out to people who have a question but not the desire to engage with the community.

Re: desktop publishing

2012-11-15 Thread Fernand Vanrie
Alexandro , On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Phillip Zadro ricaza1...@hotmail.com.auwrote: hi Is there any likelihood that OpenOffice will one day include a desktop publisher? There is only one thing that is stopping me from migrating completely from Microsoft Office to either OpenOffice

[UX] Desoign Exploration - Dockable Task Pane Content Design

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Grignon
Hello All, I've been exploring the information design (content) for the dockable task pane. I've analyzed the current content in both LS and AOO, and captured some thoughts on future design direction. See:

Re: Best practices for contributing code to both Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice

2012-11-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, I've heard some discussion and interest in this topic off-list. There has been some practical experience, but nothing that we've written down or promoted. I'd be interested in seeing if we can come up with some solid best practices. The problem: Many (most?) open source

Re: Look at the pretty branches

2012-11-15 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 15.11.2012 00:10, Rob Weir wrote: I see that our project is growing new branches. Would it make sense to start documenting these on a wiki page, so it is clear what each one is, and who is maintaining it? Current branches are: AOO34/ --- Our 3.4.x branch, would be used if we ever

Re: [UX] Desoign Exploration - Dockable Task Pane Content Design

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Grignon
Simon, Indeed, I think we should keep it simple for the initial implementation. Contextual properties is a must have. I'll prep some interaction design mockups. Regards, Kevin On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin, The proposal is very good! I

Re: Templates

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Grignon
Kori, We'd love your feedback on the templates. Does it meet your needs, anything missing? Regards, Kevin On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Hi Kori, Our templates website is here: http://templates.openoffice.org/ If you type recipe in the search box

Re: Helping

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Ian C i...@amham.net wrote: Hi David, welcome aboard. Getting involved kind of depends on you and what you want to do. Development, testing, documentation, internationalisation, web site? KG01 - plus user interface design,

Re: Apache OO program crashes

2012-11-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:33:52 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

Re: [UX] Desoign Exploration - Dockable Task Pane Content Design

2012-11-15 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Thanks, Kevin! And I added your Content Design page to the sidebar planning wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+sidebar - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/11/15 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Simon, Indeed, I think we should keep it simple for the initial

Re: Look at the pretty branches

2012-11-15 Thread Andre Fischer
On 15.11.2012 00:10, Rob Weir wrote: I see that our project is growing new branches. Would it make sense to start documenting these on a wiki page, so it is clear what each one is, and who is maintaining it? Current branches are: AOO34/ --- Our 3.4.x branch, would be used if we ever need a

Re: Symphony IP Cleanup

2012-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Taking a little break from my vacations ... - Is there anything in particular that you want to see cleaned up? Extracting code without the history is not exactly easy so we basically have to check wth the IBM guys anyways. There is also the issue that we only release code through the project

Re: Look at the pretty branches

2012-11-15 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 15.11.2012 10:33, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 15.11.2012 00:10, Rob Weir wrote: I see that our project is growing new branches. Would it make sense to start documenting these on a wiki page, so it is clear what each one is, and who is maintaining it? Current branches are: [...]

Re: Look at the pretty branches

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 15.11.2012 10:33, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 15.11.2012 00:10, Rob Weir wrote: I see that our project is growing new branches. Would it make sense to start documenting these on a wiki page, so it is clear what

Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: We used Google Moderator before and it is really nice thing to use. I like the base of the idea, but I have one question what about the questions coming from users through the user(s)@ mailing list ? Would that

Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: actually we do had faqs, many of them actually, the main issue is mantaining such FAQs. this remind me of a xkcd http://xkcd.com/927/ On

Re: [DISCUSS] Do we want download links for Dev Builds on a usual webpage?

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 11/11/2012 Kay Schenk wrote: On 11/11/2012 04:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds (they are also called with/without system integration

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 14/11/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: copied and pasted into an e-mail, see other announcements ... https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+CFP is just for writing/reviewing this text. Link won't be published. Reminder: in slightly more than 24 hours, that page will be

Re: Open sources days denmark.

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:07 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a place we want to show up ? http://www.opensourcedays.org/2012/ It is pretty big in scandinavia. Maybe add it here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Events+Calendar Certainly would be a

Re: Open sources days denmark.

2012-11-15 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi, On 12-11-15, at 08:07 , jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a place we want to show up ? http://www.opensourcedays.org/2012/ It is pretty big in scandinavia. Jan. I have attended prior versions of this event, run by Peter Toft; the last time I went was, I think, in

Re: Apache OO program crashes

2012-11-15 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 11/15/2012 04:47 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:33:52 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM,

Re: New stats script: platform.py

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 15.11.2012 15:35, Rob Weir wrote: I just checked in a new script (platform.py) that queries the SourceForge REST API to get a platform breakdown for downloads. For example, looking at 3.4.1 downloads from November 1st

RE: Symphony IP Cleanup

2012-11-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It has nothing to do with whether anything from the Symphony donation is ever released in AOO. The code has been donated and it should have its IP cleaned up. Also, the history is not needed. It is simply the headers and notices on the code as donated that is a problem. There are simple

Re: New stats script: platform.py

2012-11-15 Thread Fan Zheng
Interesting result. I know what you guys saying, that it only means people downloading AOO from android devices, but not using AOO from android devices. In my opinion, such number would at least means that, there do exist thousands of AOO customers, who prefer using mobile devices on their cyber

RE: Symphony IP Cleanup

2012-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Dennis; I am afraid that what we are doing is exactly cherry picking code and creating patches. AFAICT there is no one actively working on the symphony code. If I notice something I like, I open a bugzilla issue and try to get someone from IBM to look at it. The code still has unacceptable

Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion

2012-11-15 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 11/15/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: actually we do had faqs, many of them actually, the main issue is mantaining such FAQs. this

Re: Look at the pretty branches

2012-11-15 Thread jan iversen
Apart from the branches it seems we have a directory called trunk-orig, that only seems to contain 3 files, are they important ?? +1 to remove branches when they are integrated, it gives a lot better overview. Jan. On 15 November 2012 13:19, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14,

RE: Symphony IP Cleanup

2012-11-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
All that is required to clean up the headers is to have some sort of official permission from IBM to ASF that allows it to be done. That or an IBM-employed committer needs to be identified as authorized to do it. The basic requirement is under Source File Headers for Code Developed at the ASF

Re: Look at the pretty branches

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to move. But please help me out with a simple question, if I delete a file/directory in SVN, I assume it is only deleted from that version, so if I do a checkout of an old version it is included ?? If you check

Re: Best practices for contributing code to both Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: The problem: Many (most?) open source contributors are not opposed to AOO or LO. They are just interested in helping out. If they produce a patch, or documentation, fix a bug or add a translation, they want to maximize the public good that comes from that work. You are

Re: Look at the pretty branches

2012-11-15 Thread jan iversen
On 15 November 2012 22:16, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to move. But please help me out with a simple question, if I delete a file/directory in SVN, I assume it is only deleted from that version, so if

Re: bugzilla.

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 15/11/2012 jan iversen wrote: I have a new mail account, which I have created in bugzilla. Is there a way to move the bugs I have reported with my old e-mail to the new e-mail (in bugzilla) ? Regina is right, the right way is: update your e-mail address in the old account. Creating a new

Re: bugzilla.

2012-11-15 Thread TJ Frazier
On 11/15/2012 17:28, Jan iversen wrote: Hi. I have a new mail account, which I have created in bugzilla. Is there a way to move the bugs I have reported with my old e-mail to the new e-mail (in bugzilla) ? Jan. Hi, Jan, If you changed your email address in an existing BZ account

Re: Editing needed on BZ footer -- remove podling reference

2012-11-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On 11/14/2012 05:06 PM, TJ Frazier wrote: On 11/14/2012 18:47, Kay Schenk wrote: HI -- Could one of our BZ admins please remove the podling reference in the footer area for Apache OOo Bugzilla? Thanks. Hi, Kay, A little research in the BZ Help [1] reveals in Section 6.3.5 that the global

Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:00 PM, F C. Costero fjcc.apa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: This is mainly a community-relations / public outreach

[BUILD] New gmake branch

2012-11-15 Thread Andrew Rist
Andre, I have updated the gmake branch (branches/gbuild) and changed all the headers. A couple of quick fixes are added. At this point the branch is trunk + CWS patches. make -di takes me pretty far in, but I get: GNUmakefile:35: *** Corrupted module targetstack! . Stop also, there is a

Re: [UX] Desoign Exploration - Dockable Task Pane Content Design

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/15 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Hello All, I've been exploring the information design (content) for the dockable task pane. I've analyzed the current content in both LS and AOO, and captured some

Fw: QA Volunteer

2012-11-15 Thread Manju2 M
Hi All, This is Manju from INDIA. Interested in QA, Automated Testing, Looking forward to join Apache team :-) Regards, Manju - Forwarded by Manju2 M/TVM/TCS on 11/16/2012 11:43 AM - From: Manju2 M/TVM/TCS To: q...@openoffice.apache.org. Date: 11/16/2012 11:35 AM

Re: [UX] Desoign Exploration - Dockable Task Pane Content Design

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:28 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/15 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Hello All, I've been exploring the information design (content) for the dockable task

Re: buildbot success in ASF Buildbot on aoo-w7snap

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 13/11/2012 Andrew Rist wrote: That makes all flows 'green'. Including this new build that builds from the SNAPSHOT tag. Great news! Working buildbots are a prerequisite to proper QA. What changes need to be made to these install bits usable as our dev snapshot? Localization on