Re: Spell checking in French

2017-12-21 Thread Marcus 

Am 17.12.2017 um 22:30 schrieb Pedro Lino:

Actually the fastest way to add a dictionary should be clicking on 
Tools, Languages, More Dictionaries Online


More Dictionaries Online should point to a user friendly page like 
Mozilla's

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools/


in general yes. However, when you compare it with our download webpage 
you will see that we have left the big link table behind us. Actually I 
don't want to come back to this time.


The problem is that the menu item launches a weblink to 
https://extensions.openoffice.org/dictionaries?lang=en-US (where 
lang=value depends on the AOO interface language) which is then 
translated to 
https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/search?f%5B0%5D=field_project_tags%3A157 
(the same as clicking on the Dictionaries button on the Extensions website)


The same idea is used to pre-select the install files on our download 
webpage. I don't see this as a problem.


Of course you need the chance to change the pre-selected language. 
Otherwise you are stick with one language and this is indeed not a good way.


However searching for the words spelling or dictionaries returns many 
more results than the Dictionaries button (for instance none of the 
Portuguese tools show up when clicking Dictionaries)
This means that the search key is not working as expected (maybe not all 
extensions have the needed tag?)


Should I open a Bugzilla issue about this?


Is this something you would see improved in OpenOffice? If not, I think 
we don't need a BZ issue as we can discuss / work on this topic also here.


P.S. I can volunteer to kick off a similar list of the available AOO 
languages (and links to the extensions) if the devs agree that it makes 
sense to link to such a page.


As said: in general yes. But I don't want to see a lng list of 
links. We have 41 languages for the UI but there are much more languages 
possible for spell check.


When we use the same principle from the download webpage also here - 
that means: choose the language and then get the click-able link. What 
do you/others think?


Please don't get me wrong. I support your idea to improve the way to 
download dictionaries - as these are the most used extensions. Let's see 
if there is a more user-friendly way to get the wanted dic.


My 2 ct.

Marcus


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Re: Re: Spell checking in French

2017-12-20 Thread Raymond Helie 
Thank you
 
In a message dated 12/17/2017 12:58:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
marcus.m...@wtnet.de writes:

 
 Am 17.12.2017 um 17:35 schrieb Raymond Helie:
> I am trying to get your spell & grammar checking for French along with 
> English.  Your English version is Ok.  But am having problems getting the 
> French version.  As per your instructions, I click on "Tools", then 
> "options", then "language settings' AND this is where I see nothing for 
> writing aids (your next instruction). After this, I should get "available 
> language modules.  Please help me by giving me a detailed procedure where I 
> can also use your spell checking in French.  Thank you in advance for your 
> prompt response.

please make sure that also an extension for a French spell check is 
installed. You can see if this is done and OK when a little icon with 
"ABC" and a blue hook is in front of the language item.

With a right-mouse click in a text document open the character 
formatting dialog, then the tab "Font" and see the "Language" drop-down-box.

The dictionary for French spell check can be found on the extension website:

https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/search?query=french+spelling

HTH

Marcus

Re: Spell checking in French

2017-12-18 Thread Pedro Lino 

Hi Andrea, all




P.S. I can volunteer to kick off a similar list of the available AOO
languages (and links to the extensions) if the devs agree that it makes
sense to link to such a page.


At least a collection of links to Dictionaries that are not marked as 
such would be useful, thanks!


Maybe my message was not so clear. My offer was to kick a user friendly 
landing page like the one from Mozilla.


Checking the tags is probably easier for someone with DB access. In fact 
there is a HUGE discrepancy in the results. If you look for the tag 
"dictionary" it reports 99 entries. However if you type dictionary in 
the Search box you will see the number 136 (which I assume are the 
matching entries) but clicking on the Search button will return 159 
results...


Regards,
Pedro

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Re: Spell checking in French

2017-12-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

Pedro Lino wrote:

(the same as clicking on the Dictionaries button on the Extensions website)
However searching for the words spelling or dictionaries returns many
more results than the Dictionaries button (for instance none of the
Portuguese tools show up when clicking Dictionaries)
This means that the search key is not working as expected (maybe not all
extensions have the needed tag?)


When you create an extension, you have a "This is a dictionary" checkbox 
that will likely file it as a dictionary for the search above.



Should I open a Bugzilla issue about this?


This is something that the individual maintainers should do. But maybe 
site moderators can set the flag on any extensions, so a list would be 
useful.



P.S. I can volunteer to kick off a similar list of the available AOO
languages (and links to the extensions) if the devs agree that it makes
sense to link to such a page.


At least a collection of links to Dictionaries that are not marked as 
such would be useful, thanks!


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Spell checking in French

2017-12-17 Thread Pedro Lino 

Hi Marcus, all

Actually the fastest way to add a dictionary should be clicking on 
Tools, Languages, More Dictionaries Online


More Dictionaries Online should point to a user friendly page like 
Mozilla's

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools/

The problem is that the menu item launches a weblink to 
https://extensions.openoffice.org/dictionaries?lang=en-US (where 
lang=value depends on the AOO interface language) which is then 
translated to 
https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/search?f%5B0%5D=field_project_tags%3A157 
(the same as clicking on the Dictionaries button on the Extensions website)


However searching for the words spelling or dictionaries returns many 
more results than the Dictionaries button (for instance none of the 
Portuguese tools show up when clicking Dictionaries)
This means that the search key is not working as expected (maybe not all 
extensions have the needed tag?)


Should I open a Bugzilla issue about this?

Regards,
Pedro

P.S. I can volunteer to kick off a similar list of the available AOO 
languages (and links to the extensions) if the devs agree that it makes 
sense to link to such a page.


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Re: Spell checking in French

2017-12-17 Thread Marcus 

Am 17.12.2017 um 17:35 schrieb Raymond Helie:

I am trying to get your spell & grammar checking for French along with English.  Your English version is Ok.  
But am having problems getting the French version.  As per your instructions, I click on "Tools", then 
"options", then "language settings' AND this is where I see nothing for writing aids (your next 
instruction). After this, I should get "available language modules.  Please help me by giving me a detailed 
procedure where I can also use your spell checking in French.  Thank you in advance for your prompt response.


please make sure that also an extension for a French spell check is 
installed. You can see if this is done and OK when a little icon with 
"ABC" and a blue hook is in front of the language item.


With a right-mouse click in a text document open the character 
formatting dialog, then the tab "Font" and see the "Language" drop-down-box.


The dictionary for French spell check can be found on the extension website:

https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/search?query=french+spelling

HTH

Marcus


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Re: Spell checking in French

2017-12-17 Thread Rory O'Farrell 
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:35:32 -0500
Raymond Helie  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> I am trying to get your spell & grammar checking for French along with 
> English.  Your English version is Ok.  But am having problems getting the 
> French version.  As per your instructions, I click on "Tools", then 
> "options", then "language settings' AND this is where I see nothing for 
> writing aids (your next instruction). After this, I should get "available 
> language modules.  Please help me by giving me a detailed procedure where I 
> can also use your spell checking in French.  Thank you in advance for your 
> prompt response.
>  
>                                                 Ray Helie 

Click on the black triangle or the + sign to left of Language Settings to open 
the sub-menus.  Which sign is used depends on the particular operating system 
in use.  Or simply double click "Language settings".


-- 
Rory O'Farrell 

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