Re: [dev] Just discovered dwm
> what do you guys do for wget like functionality? opt for curl? I just use curl. If you really need something small, you could use netcat: nc example.com 80 GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: example.com User-Agent: netcat
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On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Hannes Blut wrote: > On 22.09.16 at 03:42pm, stephen Turner wrote: >> >> I liked the old debian floppy net install, 75 mb base cli only image. >> apt get your way to happiness. It didn't fit with the suckless as they >> did a lot to their system but it wasn't ubuntu. These days you can't >> even install a Cli for less than 100+ mb. i really don't understand >> what they are feeding these programs. > > > The ubuntu netboot image has an initrd around 75mb... > While that may be true my understanding is that its still very bloated and overrated and now they have systemd. I tried a bsd, and arch linux, both needed frequent file system repairs. Debian tends to be fairly stable but i haven't been happy with them in a while and can't quite put my finger on any particular reason. Ubuntu has worked in the past for a quick unix fix but not a system i would want to keep around for the long haul. At this point i am looking at sbase, ubase, sinit, linux kernel and a few other necessary oddities for a full command line like maybe libressl for https support. looking at some forums for the minimal xorg install with dwm maybe and giving st a shot for a term. what do you guys do for wget like functionality? opt for curl? I was a little surprised you didnt have a sget or the like.
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On 22.09.16 at 03:42pm, stephen Turner wrote: I liked the old debian floppy net install, 75 mb base cli only image. apt get your way to happiness. It didn't fit with the suckless as they did a lot to their system but it wasn't ubuntu. These days you can't even install a Cli for less than 100+ mb. i really don't understand what they are feeding these programs. The ubuntu netboot image has an initrd around 75mb...
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you're right that ubuntu systemd is too difficult to remove. there are solutions for the people who want a 100MB debian CLI install: you can use debian packages without debian, too (not gonna guide your direction with more details though).
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 21:31:09 +0200 hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > then it's no better than ubuntu. i can deselect stuff there, too. > So you use ubuntu? - deselect systemd? What I meant was pulseaduio, KDE et al isn't a base requirement - just if you want it. Nick -- "Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell." -- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"
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I liked the old debian floppy net install, 75 mb base cli only image. apt get your way to happiness. It didn't fit with the suckless as they did a lot to their system but it wasn't ubuntu. These days you can't even install a Cli for less than 100+ mb. i really don't understand what they are feeding these programs. On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:31 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > then it's no better than ubuntu. i can deselect stuff there, too. >
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then it's no better than ubuntu. i can deselect stuff there, too.
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On 22 Sep 2016 09:51:00 +0100 Nick Warne wrote: > On Sep 22 2016, Cág wrote: > > >hiro wrote: > > > >> networkmanager should be removed first thing on any distribution > >> slack doesn't sound so great if it includes some crap tbh. > > > >It has PulseAudio in the default installation. And KDE is > >autoselected in the > >installer. > > > >Cág > > I have none of that installed - just base Slackware. Just got in from work and read the 14.2 release - pulseaudio? Bloody hell. I still run 14.1, and that only has alsa and also KDE stuff is only a singleton option on install - it can be deselected to not install any of it (which I do). I would say 14.2 follows the same logic. You don't have to install KDE and pulseaduio crap - just deselect them. Nick -- "Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell." -- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"
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On Sep 22 2016, Cág wrote: hiro wrote: networkmanager should be removed first thing on any distribution slack doesn't sound so great if it includes some crap tbh. It has PulseAudio in the default installation. And KDE is autoselected in the installer. Cág I have none of that installed - just base Slackware. Nick -- "Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell." -- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"
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hiro wrote: networkmanager should be removed first thing on any distribution slack doesn't sound so great if it includes some crap tbh. It has PulseAudio in the default installation. And KDE is autoselected in the installer. Cág
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again, libinput On 9/22/16, Greg Reagle wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Nick Warne wrote: >> One little thing I do miss though is scrolling with mouse wheel (or >> using the pad side edge) to scroll a web page etc. >> Is that doable? > > If I had a mouse wheel I'd let you know how I do it, but I don't. I use > a track ball. I wonder if the xinput command would do the trick. This > is the command that I use to enable middle button emulation on my track > ball. > > xinput set-prop "Kensington Kensington USB/PS2 Orbit" "Evdev Middle > Button Emulation" 1 > > Maybe there is a wheel option. > >
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Nick Warne wrote: > One little thing I do miss though is scrolling with mouse wheel (or > using the pad side edge) to scroll a web page etc. > Is that doable? If I had a mouse wheel I'd let you know how I do it, but I don't. I use a track ball. I wonder if the xinput command would do the trick. This is the command that I use to enable middle button emulation on my track ball. xinput set-prop "Kensington Kensington USB/PS2 Orbit" "Evdev Middle Button Emulation" 1 Maybe there is a wheel option.
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networkmanager should be removed first thing on any distribution slack doesn't sound so great if it includes some crap tbh. On 9/21/16, Nick Warne wrote: > Hi Cág > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:10:42 +0100 > Cág wrote: > > >> Nice to see Slackware people here. > > We are everywhere ;) Just Slack never breaks so you don't see us :) > >> > One little thing I do miss though is scrolling with mouse wheel (or >> > using the pad side edge) to scroll a web page etc. >> > >> > Is that doable? >> > >> >> Try some of these [0]. Of course apply what fits you. There are some >> example >> files I use now [1], since I use mdev on my Alpine and don't use udev >> (but that >> should work everywhere). >> >> Cheers, >> Cág >> >> [0]: >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Configuration > > \o/ > > I quickly went throguh Xorg stuff earlier after work tonight, but missed > the tree for the woods. > > Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on" > > Fixed it up - forgot I had to do that many years ago, most DE's now > (like xfce4) do it for you. > > Many thanks - I was looking at dwm config.h to try to sort it. > > Great stuff, and thanks also to all replied to my query! > > BTW, sorted the wireless network too - commandline nm-tool and > nm-connection-editor sorts that with default networkmanger service in > Slack. > > Nick > -- > "Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with > time travel, you never can tell." > -- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara" > >
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Hi Cág On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:10:42 +0100 Cág wrote: > Nice to see Slackware people here. We are everywhere ;) Just Slack never breaks so you don't see us :) > > One little thing I do miss though is scrolling with mouse wheel (or > > using the pad side edge) to scroll a web page etc. > > > > Is that doable? > > > > Try some of these [0]. Of course apply what fits you. There are some > example > files I use now [1], since I use mdev on my Alpine and don't use udev > (but that > should work everywhere). > > Cheers, > Cág > > [0]: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Configuration \o/ I quickly went throguh Xorg stuff earlier after work tonight, but missed the tree for the woods. Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on" Fixed it up - forgot I had to do that many years ago, most DE's now (like xfce4) do it for you. Many thanks - I was looking at dwm config.h to try to sort it. Great stuff, and thanks also to all replied to my query! BTW, sorted the wireless network too - commandline nm-tool and nm-connection-editor sorts that with default networkmanger service in Slack. Nick -- "Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell." -- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"
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try libinput instead of older evdev/synaptics stuff for both trackpoint and touchpads. it works great on thinkpads.
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Speaking of showing off, I set up a repository where I publish my dotfiles and desktop patches [0]. I just patched dmenu_run to cleanly exec whatever it's supposed to run. cheers! mar77i [0] https://github.com/mar77i/dotfiles
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Nick Warne wrote: Hi, Nice to see Slackware people here. One little thing I do miss though is scrolling with mouse wheel (or using the pad side edge) to scroll a web page etc. Is that doable? Try some of these [0]. Of course apply what fits you. There are some example files I use now [1], since I use mdev on my Alpine and don't use udev (but that should work everywhere). Cheers, Cág [0]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Configuration [1]: https://github.com/slashbeast/mdev-like-a-boss/tree/master/xorg.conf.d
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:27:40 -0400 Greg Reagle wrote: > Speaking of just discovering dwm, I started using it several months > ago, and I have found that the systray patch for dwm [1] or the > stalonetray program [2] are very useful for showing my volume > control, dropbox status, and network icon. > > [1] http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/systray > [2] http://stalonetray.sourceforge.net/ Actually, re-replying to this, I use gkrellm as a monitor - that works in dwm just fine, so I can run in it's own TAG :) Nick -- "Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell." -- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"
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Hi Greg, On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:27:40 -0400 Greg Reagle wrote: > Speaking of just discovering dwm, I started using it several months > ago, and I have found that the systray patch for dwm [1] or the > stalonetray program [2] are very useful for showing my volume > control, dropbox status, and network icon. > > [1] http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/systray > [2] http://stalonetray.sourceforge.net/ > Thanks, may look at those sometime, but at the moment I control all sound/brightness etc. through my own apci stuff via functions keys. netwrok doesn't worry me either, Slackware just seems to work. If I do need to change wireless, then a quick fire up into xfce4 will sort that out. One little thing I do miss though is scrolling with mouse wheel (or using the pad side edge) to scroll a web page etc. Is that doable? Thanks Nick -- "Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell." -- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"
Re: [dev] Just discovered dwm
Speaking of just discovering dwm, I started using it several months ago, and I have found that the systray patch for dwm [1] or the stalonetray program [2] are very useful for showing my volume control, dropbox status, and network icon. [1] http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/systray [2] http://stalonetray.sourceforge.net/
[dev] Just discovered dwm
Hi all, I stumbled on dwm over the weekend after reading several threads abount the systemd crap - what a great bit of kit dwm is. Running Dillo (latest mercurial version) and claws-mail (latest git version) on Slackware 14.1, my little notebook flies - to boot up (with a BIOS password) and on the Internet with Dillo in 38 seconds is, as youngsters say today "wicked!". Many thanks for something brilliant. Nick -- "Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell." -- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"
