Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 23:28 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: I don't think it really matters what we call it, I just think that package maintainers are starting to get a sense of entitlement and I feel that's counter productive to the open environment we're used to and are trying to help continue to

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 21:09 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. Petr Pisar seems to mess with my packages. It's simply disgusting !! You haven't provided

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2010-07-02 Thread Paul Howarth
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2010-07-02 Thread Paul Howarth
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Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 03:46:29AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's only in updates-testing yet. Now this is complete nonsense. The update is required to fix broken dependencies so it should go to stable IMMEDIATELY. people make mistakes. it happens, no big deal.

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
2010/7/1, Chitlesh GOORAH chitlesh.goo...@gmail.com: Hello there, I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. Petr Pisar seems to mess with my packages. It's simply disgusting !! Chitlesh ! It's

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages. Incorrect. Anyone in the provenpackagers group has access to almost all packages. The one exception being Mozilla.

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 09:37 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages. Incorrect. Anyone in the provenpackagers group has access to almost all

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/7/2 Chitlesh GOORAH chitlesh.goo...@gmail.com: Hello there, I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. It looks like Petr Pisar just fixed some FTBTS bugs in rawhide after mass-rebuiding of all

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 01:23 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: The Petr's are apparent newbies/newcomers. They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they are @RH. Probably because it is their paid job to work on these packages. I am not aware of the specifics here. Fedora's sponsorship model

Re: How to lure me to updates-testing

2010-07-02 Thread Stewart Adam
On 2010/07/01 10:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 16:44 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Nathanael Noblet wrote: I presume a fedora account with certs are required for this? Yes, but for your karma to have any merit, you need a Fedora account. Non-Fedora account karma

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 10:05 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/02/2010 01:23 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: The Petr's are apparent newbies/newcomers. They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they are @RH. Probably because it is their paid job to work on these packages. I am not aware of

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote, at 07/02/2010 04:09 AM +9:00: Hello there, I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. Petr Pisar seems to mess with my packages. It's simply disgusting !! Chitlesh !

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Kalev Lember
On 07/02/2010 11:35 AM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: Chitlesh GOORAH wrote, at 07/02/2010 04:09 AM +9:00: Hello there, I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. Petr Pisar seems to mess with my packages.

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Kalev Lember wrote, at 07/02/2010 05:51 PM +9:00: On 07/02/2010 11:35 AM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: Chitlesh GOORAH wrote, at 07/02/2010 04:09 AM +9:00: Hello there, I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 01:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: That said, I can't avoid having to agree to Josephine. The Petr's hardly would have been granted this amount of CVS access if they had not been @RH. It seems Chitlesh was wrong and the person doing the commit was different. You seem to be

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 2.7.2010 09:37, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages. Incorrect. Anyone in the provenpackagers group has access to almost all

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mark Chappell
Matěj Cepl wrote: b) if you don't like provenpackagers to mess with your packages, go and make a switch in pkgdb. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_policy To exclude a package from provenpackagers access, you have to open a ticket at FESCo issue tracker and explain why

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone with commit access updating packages in Rawhide Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 2.7.2010 06:28, Adam Miller napsal(a): I don't think it really matters what we call it, I just think that package maintainers are starting to get a sense of entitlement and I feel that's counter productive to the open environment we're used to and are trying to help continue to grow. I

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Miloslav Trmač
David Woodhouse píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 07:08 +0100: On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 21:09 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. Petr Pisar seems to mess with my

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 10:33:52 +0100, Mark wrote: ProvenPackagers are there precisely to do what it looks like happened with : http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8618 Wait a minute, it's not that easy. Provenpackagers are not supposed to jump in every N months, apply a fix,

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:40:11 +0200, Matěj wrote: Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good reasons for not upgrading the package. Just ask!

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Excerpts from Michael Schwendt's message of Fri Jul 02 11:34:38 +0200 2010: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone with commit access updating packages in Rawhide Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 11:40:11AM +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good reasons for not upgrading the package.

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mark Chappell
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 10:33:52 +0100, Mark wrote: ProvenPackagers are there precisely to do what it looks like happened with : http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8618 Wait a minute, it's not that easy. Provenpackagers are not supposed to jump in

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mark Chappell
Patrice Dumas wrote: I think that this is very wrong. I don't know the specifics of this package either, but I remember that for one of my packages, I had to hold of correcting a FTBS because it meant upgrading, and I coudn't do that because of some incompatibilities. So at least comment on

Re: rebuild of wxGTK without the internal crash handler in Rawhide

2010-07-02 Thread Dan Horák
Kevin Kofler píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 04:06 +0200: Dan Horák wrote: I will rebuild wxGTK without the internal crash handler for the the devel/F14 branch so we can use ABRT to report crashes from wxGTK-based apps. This will mean a rebuild of wxGTK with --disable-catch_segvs and this

[Bug 582163] Review Request: perl-Test-Smoke - Perl core test smoke suite

2010-07-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=582163 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Felix Kaechele
I get the feeling that no one on this thread has looked into https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/403 So this has already been handled by FESCo, mistakes have been made and most likely will be avoided in the future. Felix -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:42:10 +0100, Mark wrote: ProvenPackagers are there precisely to do what it looks like happened with : http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8618 Wait a minute, it's not that easy. Provenpackagers are not supposed to jump in every N months,

Re: rebuild of wxGTK without the internal crash handler in Rawhide

2010-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Dan Horák d...@danny.cz wrote: Kevin Kofler píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 04:06 +0200: Dan Horák wrote: I will rebuild wxGTK without the internal crash handler for the the devel/F14 branch so we can use ABRT to report crashes from wxGTK-based apps. This will

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 03:13:55PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 7/1/10 2:55 PM, Till Maas wrote: But I guess somehow it boils down to the majority wants that other people to work for them, which might even be true. But in a FOSS community I doubt it is very healthy to follow this too

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Léon Keijser
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone with commit access updating packages in Rawhide Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans to

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Dave Airlie
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 13:55 +0200, Léon Keijser wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone with commit access updating packages in Rawhide Of course there

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 12:03:34PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:40:11 +0200, Matěj wrote: Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans to upgrade a package. The primary package

Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2010-07-02 Thread buildsys
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) On i386: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) Please resolve this as soon

Broken dependencies: perl-Data-Alias

2010-07-02 Thread buildsys
perl-Data-Alias has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Data-Alias-1.07-6.fc13.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) On i386: perl-Data-Alias-1.07-6.fc13.i686 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora

Broken dependencies: perl-DBI-Dumper

2010-07-02 Thread buildsys
perl-DBI-Dumper has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-DBI-Dumper-2.01-8.fc12.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0) On i386: perl-DBI-Dumper-2.01-8.fc12.i686 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 01:55:21PM +0200, Léon Keijser wrote: I think you are spot-on with this comment. There probably wouldn't be such a discussion if the (proven)packager simply stated his intentions to the package maintainer. Just to step into this for a moment, but this wouldn't work (in

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Peter Czanik
2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: Dave Airlie wrote: So I've noticed maintainers of packages in Fedora seem to have a concept of ownership, and I'm wondering if we could remove that word from usage about maintainership. +1 IMHO any sponsored packager should be free

@fedoraproject.org email alias

2010-07-02 Thread Chris Jones
I have just joined as a member and co-maintainer of the Fedora Design Suite. Apparently, as a member of the Fedora community I am entitled to the email alias foxmulder...@fedoraproject.org. Whereas foxmulder881 is my username. Now I can't for the life of me get the email alias to work correctly

rawhide report: 20100702 changes

2010-07-02 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Jul 2 08:15:29 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- BackupPC-3.1.0-14.fc14.noarch requires perl-suidperl FlightGear-2.0.0-2.fc14.i686 requires libosgText.so.55 FlightGear-2.0.0-2.fc14.i686 requires

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 07/02/2010 01:55 PM, Léon Keijser wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone with commit access updating packages in Rawhide Of course there is.

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Peter Czanik pcza...@fang.fa.gau.hu wrote: 2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: Dave Airlie wrote: So I've noticed maintainers of packages in Fedora seem to have a concept of ownership, and I'm wondering if we could remove that word from usage

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 01:58 PM, Dave Airlie wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 13:55 +0200, Léon Keijser wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone with commit access updating

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:58:10 +1000, Dave wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 13:55 +0200, Léon Keijser wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone with commit

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 01:33:05PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: I do not want to be asked for trivial changes to my packages that fix bugs I neglected or rebuild it because of an update of a dependency. I am happy for every work I do not have to do and sending extra mails for such changes reduces

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:23:43PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote: 2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: I think we need to get rid of the concept of ownership entirely, that'd also make orphaned or de-facto orphaned packages less of a problem. You see a problem, you fix it.

Re: rebuild of wxGTK without the internal crash handler in Rawhide

2010-07-02 Thread Dan Horák
Thomas Janssen píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 13:21 +0200: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Dan Horák d...@danny.cz wrote: Kevin Kofler píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 04:06 +0200: Dan Horák wrote: I will rebuild wxGTK without the internal crash handler for the the devel/F14 branch so we can use

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/7/2 Patrice Dumas pertu...@free.fr: On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:23:43PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote: 2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: I think we need to get rid of the concept of ownership entirely, that'd also make orphaned or de-facto orphaned packages less of a

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 06:46 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote: In the past we proposed a policy for that kind of issues with Rahul, but it was never approved (nor really considered). http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/CollectiveMaintenance I had forgotten about this but since becoming

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, 2010-07-02 14:48 keltezéssel, Thomas Janssen írta: +1 I'd like to get syslog-ng updated to the latest version in Rawhide (I work part time for the upstream developer and I'm also an occasional Fedora user). I contacted the package owner, no response. Created a bugreport to get it

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:36:34PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote: I think escalating to FESCo is only suitable for changes which are controversial between different people, we should have another policy to treat those non-responsive issues, maintainers should respond on bugzilla report in time. I

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 07:15:54PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I had forgotten about this but since becoming provenpackager I have helped out in simple rebuilds or even version bumps on occasions and have gotten positive feedback. You mean that you didn't only send a patch but you did

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 07:27 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote: On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 07:15:54PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I had forgotten about this but since becoming provenpackager I have helped out in simple rebuilds or even version bumps on occasions and have gotten positive feedback. You mean that

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 07:37 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote: Ok, this policy was for the other case, a case when the maintainer does not respond. I am not saying that it happens a lot, but it happened in the past, and the syslog-ng case exposed in the thread is another recent case. Maybe a policy is not

Orphaning perl-TermReadKey

2010-07-02 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hi, I have orphaned perl-TermReadKey, for Fedora 11-devel, EPEL 4,5. Anyone interested, please take it. Stepan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Julian Aloofi
Hi all, I have a pretty simple question: Is there a way to subscribe to certain packages in bodhi so that I get a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for it or pushes happen? That would be pretty useful for monitoring changes of dependencies, so I have enough time to make sure my

webkitgtk abi bump

2010-07-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
Just a headsup: I've just built webkitgtk-1.3.2 in rawhide, which changes library sonames, so things depending on it will have to be rebuilt. repoquery says that the following packages might be affected: anjuta awn-extras-applets cairo-dock-plug-ins-webkit claws-mail-plugins-fancy devhelp

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Andreas Bierfert
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 16:33 +0200, Julian Aloofi wrote: Hi all, I have a pretty simple question: Is there a way to subscribe to certain packages in bodhi so that I get a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for it or pushes happen? That would be pretty useful for monitoring

Re: webkitgtk abi bump

2010-07-02 Thread Kushal Das
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: Just a headsup: I've just built webkitgtk-1.3.2 in rawhide, which changes library sonames, so things depending on it will have to be rebuilt. lekhonee-gnome rebuild done. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 11:28:09PM -0500, Adam Miller wrote: I don't think it really matters what we call it, I just think that package maintainers are starting to get a sense of entitlement and I feel that's counter productive to the open environment we're used to and are trying to help

Re: webkitgtk abi bump

2010-07-02 Thread Andreas Bierfert
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 10:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: Just a headsup: I've just built webkitgtk-1.3.2 in rawhide, which changes library sonames, so things depending on it will have to be rebuilt. claws-mail-plugins rebuild done - Andreas -- BRef Andreas Bierfert, M.Sc. |

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:53:00AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 07/02/2010 09:37 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages.

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Richard Hughes
On 2 July 2010 17:00, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they are @RH. Probably because it is their paid job to work on these packages. Ralf, you need to stop repeating this particular line when I have repeatedly told you that

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 11:26:32AM +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: Dne 2.7.2010 09:37, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages.

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Julian Aloofi
Am Freitag, den 02.07.2010, 17:02 +0200 schrieb Andreas Bierfert: On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 16:33 +0200, Julian Aloofi wrote: Hi all, I have a pretty simple question: Is there a way to subscribe to certain packages in bodhi so that I get a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 06:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:53:00AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 07/02/2010 09:37 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the privilegue

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 06:07 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 2 July 2010 17:00, Toshio Kuratomia.bad...@gmail.com wrote: They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they are @RH. Probably because it is their paid job to work on these packages. Ralf, you need to stop repeating this particular

measuring success [was Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release]

2010-07-02 Thread Will Woods
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 06:33 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Fedora Legacy has shown how well this works… not! I completely agree with Ralf Corsepius and Tom Lane on this subject: this policy is very unhelpful, and applying it to security updates is just totally insane. We're going to see

Re: measuring success [was Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release]

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 06:20 PM, Will Woods wrote: The main reasons we want to perform testing are things like: to avoid pushing updates with broken dependencies, or updates that cause serious regressions requiring manual intervention / emergency update replacements. That sort of thing. Should be

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. Maybe it's still being propagated, but when I did update --skip-broken followed by yum update, right now (Fri Jul

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 06:15:44PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 07/02/2010 06:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:53:00AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: The Petr's are apparent newbies/newcomers. They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they are @RH.

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/2/10 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I had to apply and justify the reasons why I wanted to be a provenpackager. I know you did, but the Petr's did not. Their presumable supervisor @RH (Marcella) rushed them through the process and they had

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:41:18 -0400, Przemek wrote: On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. Maybe it's still being propagated, but when I did update

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 07/02/2010 06:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:53:00AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 07/02/2010 09:37 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: It's seems to me that you have to

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/02/2010 12:47 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:41:18 -0400, Przemek wrote: On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. Maybe it's

[pkgdb] perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL, 5) updated by tibbs

2010-07-02 Thread Fedora PackageDB
tibbs added a Fedora EPEL 5 branch for perl-PatchReader Package perl-PatchReader in Fedora EPEL 5 is now owned by pfrields tibbs approved watchbugzilla on perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL 5) for perl-sig tibbs approved watchcommits on perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL 5) for perl-sig tibbs approved

[pkgdb] perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL, 6) updated by tibbs

2010-07-02 Thread Fedora PackageDB
tibbs added a Fedora EPEL 6 branch for perl-PatchReader Package perl-PatchReader in Fedora EPEL 6 is now owned by pfrields tibbs approved watchbugzilla on perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL 6) for perl-sig tibbs approved watchcommits on perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL 6) for perl-sig tibbs approved

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Julian Aloofi julian.fedorali...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a pretty simple question: Is there a way to subscribe to certain packages in bodhi so that I get a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for it or pushes happen? That would be

Re: measuring success

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 12:20:21PM -0400, Will Woods wrote: Therefore: I propose that we choose a few metrics (turnaround time on security updates, average number of live updates with broken dependencies per day, etc.). Then we begin measuring them (and, if possible, collect historical,

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 04:33:20PM +0200, Julian Aloofi wrote: Hi all, I have a pretty simple question: Is there a way to subscribe to certain packages in bodhi so that I get a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for it or pushes happen? That would be pretty useful for

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 02:48:26PM -0400, Luke Macken wrote: For critical path updates to be approved for pushing to the stable repository, they now require a minimum karma of 2, consisting of a +1 from a single proventester, and a +1 from another authenticated user. I am just wondering, is

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/2/10 11:27 AM, Till Maas wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 02:48:26PM -0400, Luke Macken wrote: For critical path updates to be approved for pushing to the stable repository, they now require a minimum karma of 2, consisting of a +1 from a

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:27:27 +0200 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 02:48:26PM -0400, Luke Macken wrote: For critical path updates to be approved for pushing to the stable repository, they now require a minimum karma of 2, consisting of a +1 from a single

Re: CVS admin requests

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:32:20 -0600, Kevin wrote: The page Package Change Requests for existing packages is unclear: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CVSAdminProcedure#Package_Change_Requests_for_existing_packages Please expand on what explanatory text you want in

Re: CVS admin requests

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:50:08 +0200 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: ...snip... - You are not the owner and want to maintain in epel. Did you contact the fedora owner and wait and/or hear back that they didn't want to maintain it? How would I know that this would be relevant?

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 12:48:43PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:27:27 +0200 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Also they are about the important packages, which is a subset of critical path. Superset. :) In any case, the items mentioned there should be

orphaning a few packages

2010-07-02 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi all, since I'll be entering college soon, I'm revisiting my workload (I'll continue to work on Sugar and Etherpad). I'm using neither of the following applications (nodm was originally intended to be used for sugar-related work) and since both avogadro and nodm have a few open bugs which I've

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Julian Aloofi
Am Freitag, den 02.07.2010, 19:31 +0200 schrieb Thomas Janssen: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Julian Aloofi julian.fedorali...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a pretty simple question: Is there a way to subscribe to certain packages in bodhi so that I get a notification via mail

Re: @fedoraproject.org email alias

2010-07-02 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.rowrote: I just added him to the Design Team group so his alias should start working. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ Thanks. Yes it is now working correctly. Regards -- Chris Jones

Re: measuring success [was Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release]

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Will Woods wrote: The main reasons we want to perform testing are things like: to avoid pushing updates with broken dependencies The right way to prevent that is to get AutoQA completed, which will, if it works as intended, automatically detect and throw out updates with broken dependencies

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:44:29 -0400 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: I think it's counterproductive to downgrade that responsibility, or even worse pretend that it doesn't matter --- and Kevin's lead statement in this thread is damn close to pretending that. Sorry Kevin,

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ralf Corsepius wrote: We need groups, with grouped privileges/acls etc. It's essentially what e.g. the perl-sig originally was meant to be. Yes, group ACLs are definitely needed, but in addition to that technical feature, we also need to make sure that the SIG actually gets commit access to

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Thomas Janssen wrote: You have to accept the maintainers decision to not update it yet? What do you think will happen if everyone builds the wishes he has and breaks a lot of stuff with it? Anarchy? We have processes for that in Fedora: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MikeKnox/AWOL_Maintainers

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
David Woodhouse wrote: In the old days of RHL and beehive, I think we had it about right... with the obvious exception that it was Red Hat only, but the attitude to packaging was right, IMHO. There _was_ someone who knew most about a package and was expected to deal with it most of the time,

Re: measuring success

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 08:12 PM, Till Maas wrote: Btw. on a related issue:How do provenpackagers properly test for broken deps manually? Like ordinary packagers should do ;) The only difference between provenpackagers and ordinary packagers is them having write access to packages they do not own.

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/03/2010 03:49 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: David Woodhouse wrote: In the old days of RHL and beehive, I think we had it about right... with the obvious exception that it was Red Hat only, but the attitude to packaging was right, IMHO. There _was_ someone who knew most about a package and was

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 06:43 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/2/10 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I had to apply and justify the reasons why I wanted to be a provenpackager. I know you did, but the Petr's did not. Their presumable supervisor @RH (Marcella)

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