first and only X needs to be on tty7

2014-05-05 Thread Felix Miata
How can I get it to go there and stay there? When starting F21 in multi-user, logging in on tty3 and running startx, KDE shows up on tty3, where, as it's currently broken[1], it needs to be killed to escape it. Ctrl-Alt-BS fails to kill it (in spite of xorg.con* entries intended that

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Wayland

2014-05-05 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 03.05.2014 15:51, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 9:27 AM, alex diavatis wrote: From Fedora Docs (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Wayland) To

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-05-05 Thread Glen Turner
I am pretty sure HTTP(s) is the right choice Hi Lennart, The choice of HTTPS does complicate the network infrastructure moving log records into a network management QoS class (ie, making sure that remote logging works during a DoS attack caused by malware). If you feel that HTTPS is the

PSA: don't make your polkit policies desktop centric

2014-05-05 Thread Stef Walter
Many of the polkit policy files services ship in Fedora have lines that look like this: defaults allow_anyno/allow_any allow_inactiveno/allow_inactive allow_activeauth_admin_keep/allow_active /defaults The allow_anyno/allow_any prevents use of the service from remote

Re: first and only X needs to be on tty7

2014-05-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 05.05.14 03:23, Felix Miata (mrma...@earthlink.net) wrote: How can I get it to go there and stay there? When starting F21 in multi-user, logging in on tty3 and running startx, KDE shows up on tty3, where, as it's currently broken[1], it needs to be killed to escape it. Ctrl-Alt-BS

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-05-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 05.05.14 18:54, Glen Turner (g...@gdt.id.au) wrote: I am pretty sure HTTP(s) is the right choice Hi Lennart, The choice of HTTPS does complicate the network infrastructure moving log records into a network management QoS class (ie, making sure that remote logging works

rawhide report: 20140505 changes

2014-05-05 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Broken deps for i386 -- [0ad] 0ad-0.0.15-4.fc21.i686 requires libenet.so.2 [MegaMek] MegaMek-0.30.11-13.fc20.i686 requires java-gcj-compat MegaMek-0.30.11-13.fc20.i686 requires java-gcj-compat [PyKDE]

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-05-05 Thread Florian Weimer
On 05/05/2014 12:36 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: If you feel that HTTPS is the correct protocol then please consider using another port number than 443. It's port 19531 by default. Have you requested official assignment? It's not yet listed in

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-05-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 05.05.14 12:49, Florian Weimer (fwei...@redhat.com) wrote: On 05/05/2014 12:36 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: If you feel that HTTPS is the correct protocol then please consider using another port number than 443. It's port 19531 by default. Have you requested official

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-05-05 Thread Florian Weimer
On 05/05/2014 12:52 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Have you requested official assignment? It's not yet listed in http://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.txt. No I have not. What's the benefit of doing so? It avoids collisions, and tools like

Re: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [comment] mesa-10.1-6.20140305.fc20, pure-0.58-3.fc20, python-llvmpy-0.12.4-1.fc20, pocl-0.9-4.fc20.1, OpenGTL-0.9.18-9.fc20, gedit-code-assistance-0.2.0-5.fc20, gambas3

2014-05-05 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Mon, 2014-04-21 at 16:33 +0200, drago01 wrote: Ouch. Yeah. How did that happen? How can we make it not happen in the future? Well bodhi could simply not allow anyone other then the submitter to press the push button. Other then that ... better

log4j update in f21

2014-05-05 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
Next week I am going to update log4j in rawhide from version 1.2 to version 2.0-rc1 [2]. 2.0 ships with a module providing limited 1.2 compatibility. For more info see [1]. List of 105 components which require or build-require log4j (and therefore are possibly affected by this update) follows.

Re: PSA: don't make your polkit policies desktop centric

2014-05-05 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 05/05/2014 11:47 AM, Stef Walter wrote: Many of the polkit policy files services ship in Fedora have lines that look like this: defaults allow_anyno/allow_any allow_inactiveno/allow_inactive allow_activeauth_admin_keep/allow_active /defaults The

Re: log4j update in f21

2014-05-05 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 05/05/2014 13:41, Mikolaj Izdebski ha scritto: Next week I am going to update log4j in rawhide from version 1.2 to version 2.0-rc1 [2]. 2.0 ships with a module providing limited 1.2 compatibility. For more info see [1]. List of 105 components which require or build-require log4j (and

Re: log4j update in f21

2014-05-05 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 05/05/2014 13:41, Mikolaj Izdebski ha scritto: Next week I am going to update log4j in rawhide from version 1.2 to version 2.0-rc1 [2]. 2.0 ships with a module providing limited 1.2 compatibility. For more info see [1]. List of 105 components which require or build-require log4j (and

Re: PSA: don't make your polkit policies desktop centric

2014-05-05 Thread Stef Walter
On 05.05.2014 13:58, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 05/05/2014 11:47 AM, Stef Walter wrote: Many of the polkit policy files services ship in Fedora have lines that look like this: defaults allow_anyno/allow_any allow_inactiveno/allow_inactive

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Wayland

2014-05-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 03:59 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: The whole confusion is because the feature was initially written for 3.12 but then the whole .next thing happened. In short the text needs to be updated. Matthias updated it, I asked him but probably it needs more updates. Sorry,

Re: kernel packaging split up landing in Rawhide

2014-05-05 Thread Gene Czarcinski
On 04/29/2014 05:41 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: Hi All, As part of the F21 Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud Feature[1], I've committed and pushed the kernel packaging split up into kernel-core and kernel-drivers subpackages. For those of you running rawhide, this really shouldn't be a major impact

Re: kernel packaging split up landing in Rawhide

2014-05-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/29/2014 05:41 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: Hi All, As part of the F21 Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud Feature[1], I've committed and pushed the kernel packaging split up into kernel-core and kernel-drivers

Re: PSA: don't make your polkit policies desktop centric

2014-05-05 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 14:21 +0200, Stef Walter wrote: The allow_anyno/allow_any prevents use of the service from remote sessions such as ssh or Cockpit. The poorly named allow_any tag controls the default policy for users logged in from any non-monitor+keyboard session. That is,

Re: kernel packaging split up landing in Rawhide

2014-05-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.05.2014 14:36, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 08:26:59 -0400, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote: [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modular_Kernel_Packaging_for_Cloud I think you need a little work on this. Ok, to update (install) a new kernel you

Re: fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

2014-05-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 05:15:59PM +, Colin Walters wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: Risking being totally offtopic, but would TCB solve all most of this issues? www.openwall.com/tcb/ or

[perl-Mixin-Linewise] 0.106 bump

2014-05-05 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a4e5863df4931057c30efe68866331871b33dcdf Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Mon May 5 15:27:47 2014 +0200 0.106 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Mixin-Linewise.spec | 32 +--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 19

Re: fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

2014-05-05 Thread Florian Weimer
On 05/05/2014 03:27 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I think it would be better if we could declaratively say which user accounts an RPM needs, and RPM can add or remove users from the system based on this. eg. Apache httpd.spec would contain just: %user apache %group apache And if we

Re: log4j update in f21

2014-05-05 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 05/05/2014 02:11 PM, punto...@libero.it wrote: Il 05/05/2014 13:41, Mikolaj Izdebski ha scritto: Next week I am going to update log4j in rawhide from version 1.2 to version 2.0-rc1 [2]. 2.0 ships with a module providing limited 1.2 compatibility. For more info see [1]. List of 105

Re: fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

2014-05-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.05.2014 15:27, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: I think it would be better if we could declaratively say which user accounts an RPM needs, and RPM can add or remove users from the system based on this. eg. Apache httpd.spec would contain just: %user apache %group apache (This

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-05-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 10:14 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: Well then you've misread, and now people trying to search for information on rpm collections will be even more confused... Like said elsewhere in this thread, collections are experimental, not enabled in Fedora and will never be in

Re: PSA: don't make your polkit policies desktop centric

2014-05-05 Thread Stef Walter
On 05.05.2014 14:44, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 14:21 +0200, Stef Walter wrote: The allow_anyno/allow_any prevents use of the service from remote sessions such as ssh or Cockpit. The poorly named allow_any tag controls the default policy for users logged in from

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 18:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: however, the semantics of /usr/sbin is to contain superuser binaries which should not be overriden because a binary with the same name exists in /usr/bin My memory is that the s was more for static not superuser. There's some conceptual

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
On 05/05/2014 10:28 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 18:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: however, the semantics of /usr/sbin is to contain superuser binaries which should not be overriden because a binary with the same name exists in /usr/bin My memory is that the s was more for

Re: Smaller Taskotron Tasks

2014-05-05 Thread Tim Flink
On Fri, 2 May 2014 04:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/w/taskotron-papercuts/ Thanks, I was thinking about this. It's very unfortunate that Phabricator doesn't support arbitrary tags/keywords as in Bugzilla or

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Wayland

2014-05-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 16:05 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: Is this about integrating this work in Fedora? Or more porting work? Or even make Wayland the default in F21? The section How To Test sounds as if the later is the case, but it's not entirely clear to me. I've tried to clarify the

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 05.05.14 10:35, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY (kkeit...@redhat.com) wrote: On 05/05/2014 10:28 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 18:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: however, the semantics of /usr/sbin is to contain superuser binaries which should not be overriden because a binary

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said: /usr/sbin is an invention of Linux. Hmm, I think Solaris had it, and I know DEC Unix had it. IIRC /sbin came about for static bins, but then also to move config binaries out of /etc. The bins not needed for early system startup

Re: Automatically generated configuration files

2014-05-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:39:42AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Florian Weimer wrote: I don't think openssl genrsa 2048 has this issue on today's machines. (I know I saw it with GNUTLS.) I was sceptical, so I tried this on a freshly booted VM: root@bofh:~# virsh

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:43:49PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: We really should get rid of the destinction, and make all of /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin, and then never bother again about $PATH orders and namespace collisions... This -- and the current approach of having

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:43:49PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: We really should get rid of the destinction, and make all of /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin, and then never bother again about

[Bug 1094395] New: perl-IPC-Run make check failure for ppc64le archi

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094395 Bug ID: 1094395 Summary: perl-IPC-Run make check failure for ppc64le archi Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-IPC-Run Severity: medium Assignee:

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Steve Clark
On 05/05/2014 10:43 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 05.05.14 10:35, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY (kkeit...@redhat.com) wrote: On 05/05/2014 10:28 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 18:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: however, the semantics of /usr/sbin is to contain superuser binaries

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 16:43 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 05.05.14 10:35, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY (kkeit...@redhat.com) wrote: On 05/05/2014 10:28 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 18:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: however, the semantics of /usr/sbin is to contain

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
On 05/05/2014 10:43 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: /usr/sbin is an invention of Linux. Strange that you would claim this. Here's a list of what's in /usr/sbin on NetBSD 1.0 (and there's no overlap between what's in /usr/sbin and any other subdir.) drwxr-xr-x root/wheel 0

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Jon Kent
Hi, That's my recollection as well. Heard that confusion about sbin being for superuser before. Jon On 5 May 2014 15:29, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 18:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: however, the semantics of /usr/sbin is to contain superuser binaries which

Re: first and only X needs to be on tty7

2014-05-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-05-05 12:34 (GMT+0200) Lennart Poettering composed: Felix Miata wrote: How can I get it to go there and stay there? When starting F21 in multi-user, logging in on tty3 and running startx, KDE shows up on tty3, where, as it's currently broken[1], it needs to be killed to escape it.

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 05.05.14 11:32, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 16:43 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 05.05.14 10:35, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY (kkeit...@redhat.com) wrote: On 05/05/2014 10:28 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 18:59 +0200, Reindl Harald

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY kkeit...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/05/2014 10:28 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 18:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: however, the semantics of /usr/sbin is to contain superuser binaries which should not be overriden because a binary

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 11:00:05AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:43:49PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: We really should get rid of the destinction, and make all of /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin, and then never bother again about $PATH orders and

Re: first and only X needs to be on tty7

2014-05-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 05.05.14 11:45, Felix Miata (mrma...@earthlink.net) wrote: On 2014-05-05 12:34 (GMT+0200) Lennart Poettering composed: Felix Miata wrote: How can I get it to go there and stay there? When starting F21 in multi-user, logging in on tty3 and running startx, KDE shows up on tty3,

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 05:55:17PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: The full-scope cleanup looks very tempting: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ojgzJOfWB8XaC5kqyrv4IhR9snZKBI77a02R4cj1QM8/edit#slide=id.i0 That seems to cover a lot of what I'd like to see, yeah, including moving daemons out

Re: first and only X needs to be on tty7

2014-05-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-05-05 17:55 (GMT+0200) Lennart Poettering composed: On Fedora tty1 is the graphical login, since a long time. I've managed to avoid that in order that my boot messages tail stays there undisturbed until such time as I've run out of vttys and need to use a sixth, the way I like it,

Re: heads up: plist/usbmux/imobiledevice soname bumps

2014-05-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, There's a new devel release of the above just landed. I'll be looking to get them into rawhide over the new couple of days but there's been quite some change so I'm going to deal with it all locally first to

Re: fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

2014-05-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 03:47:21PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 05.05.2014 15:27, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: I think it would be better if we could declaratively say which user accounts an RPM needs, and RPM can add or remove users from the system based on this. eg. Apache

[Bug 1094440] New: perl-libwww-perl: incorrect handling of SSL certificate verification

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094440 Bug ID: 1094440 Summary: perl-libwww-perl: incorrect handling of SSL certificate verification Product: Security Response Component: vulnerability Keywords: Security

[Bug 1094440] perl-libwww-perl: incorrect handling of SSL certificate verification

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094440 Vincent Danen vda...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||1094441 -- You are

Re: heads up: plist/usbmux/imobiledevice soname bumps

2014-05-05 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, There's a new devel release of the above just landed. I'll be looking to get them into rawhide over the new couple of days but

Network-related change from f20-rawhide?

2014-05-05 Thread Jon Ciesla
I've got a pair of odd build failures that I'm probably missing something obvious on. I'm trying to update both openvpn and dietlibc to their latest upstreams for rawhide. They build fine locally on f20, in mock for f20, and fail locally in rawhide and mock for rawhide. Looking at the logs, the

Re: heads up: plist/usbmux/imobiledevice soname bumps

2014-05-05 Thread Peter Robinson
There's a new devel release of the above just landed. I'll be looking to get them into rawhide over the new couple of days but there's been quite some change so I'm going to deal with it all locally first to see what the impact is before I push it. Slightly later than planned but this

Re: heads up: plist/usbmux/imobiledevice soname bumps

2014-05-05 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: There's a new devel release of the above just landed. I'll be looking to get them into rawhide over the new couple of days but there's been quite some change so I'm going to deal with it all locally first to

Re: Network-related change from f20-rawhide?

2014-05-05 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 05/05/2014 11:34 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: I've got a pair of odd build failures that I'm probably missing something obvious on. I'm trying to update both openvpn and dietlibc to their latest upstreams for rawhide. They build fine locally on f20, in mock for f20, and fail locally in rawhide and

Re: first and only X needs to be on tty7

2014-05-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 05.05.14 12:24, Felix Miata (mrma...@earthlink.net) wrote: On 2014-05-05 17:55 (GMT+0200) Lennart Poettering composed: On Fedora tty1 is the graphical login, since a long time. I've managed to avoid that in order that my boot messages tail stays there undisturbed until such time

Re: Network-related change from f20-rawhide?

2014-05-05 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: On 05/05/2014 11:34 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: I've got a pair of odd build failures that I'm probably missing something obvious on. I'm trying to update both openvpn and dietlibc to their latest upstreams for rawhide.

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: And calling /usr/libexec Fedora-only is of course kind of funny. libexec is Fedora-only, no other major distro used it, not even LSB allowed it. It makes no sense to ever have that, and the rest of the world

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.05.2014 21:45, schrieb Kay Sievers: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: And calling /usr/libexec Fedora-only is of course kind of funny. libexec is Fedora-only, no other major distro used it, not even LSB allowed it. you systemd-guys

Dissecting performance regression on Gnome with Gen4 Intel GM45

2014-05-05 Thread Rim Botede
The subject performance regression: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77372 Hello everyone! This is my first use of mailing lists. I'm a novice-to-intermediate linux user. I've been contributing only by sharing basic knowledge and solutions on askubuntu.com and ask.fedoraproject.org.

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.05.2014 22:03, schrieb Kay Sievers: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 05.05.2014 21:45, schrieb Kay Sievers: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: And calling /usr/libexec Fedora-only is of course

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-05-05 22:03 GMT+02:00 Kay Sievers k...@vrfy.org: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 05.05.2014 21:45, schrieb Kay Sievers: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: And calling /usr/libexec

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 05.05.2014 21:45, schrieb Kay Sievers: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: And calling /usr/libexec Fedora-only is of course kind of funny. libexec is Fedora-only, no

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 22:03 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 05.05.2014 21:45, schrieb Kay Sievers: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: And calling /usr/libexec

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.05.2014 22:19, schrieb Simo Sorce: On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 22:03 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 05.05.2014 21:45, schrieb Kay Sievers: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 09:45:38PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: And calling /usr/libexec Fedora-only is of course kind of funny. libexec is Fedora-only, no other major distro used it, not even LSB allowed it. Well, Red Hat Linux, before Fedora. And I believe we got it from BSD (it seems to

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 16:19 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: It's a practical way to keep helpers out of path and autocomplete without polluting /usr/lib[64] and having to deal with multilib issues, what's pointless about it ? It causes pointless configure and Makefile complications in every

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:24:03PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: It causes pointless configure and Makefile complications in every single upstream project that wants to install something into that location and has to differentiate between Fedora (/usr/libexec) and the rest of the world

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Kalev Lember
On 05/05/2014 10:28 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:24:03PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: It causes pointless configure and Makefile complications in every single upstream project that wants to install something into that location and has to differentiate between Fedora

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 10:38:10PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: On 05/05/2014 10:28 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:24:03PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: It causes pointless configure and Makefile complications in every single upstream project that wants to install

Re: first and only X needs to be on tty7

2014-05-05 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 11:45:31AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I might not even care about the location of X sessions if only it wasn't so complicated to kill a broken one. Why doesn't Ctrl-Alt-BS not work any more? http://who-t.blogspot.com.au/2009/04/zapping-server.html -- devel mailing list

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 16:43 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: We really should get rid of the destinction, and make all of /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin, and then never bother again about $PATH orders and namespace collisions.. Arch made exactly this change this last year. [1]

Re: first and only X needs to be on tty7

2014-05-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-05-06 11:04 (GMT+1000) Peter Hutterer composed: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 11:45:31AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I might not even care about the location of X sessions if only it wasn't so complicated to kill a broken one. Why doesn't Ctrl-Alt-BS not work any more?

[Bug 1094169] New: perl-Params-Validate make check error

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094169 Bug ID: 1094169 Summary: perl-Params-Validate make check error Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Params-Validate Severity: medium Assignee:

[Bug 1094169] perl-Params-Validate make check error

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094169 --- Comment #1 from Michel Normand norm...@linux.vnet.ibm.com --- Created attachment 892456 -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=892456action=edit tstspell.input.pm data used by tstspell.pl -- You are receiving this mail

[Bug 1094169] perl-Params-Validate make check error

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094169 Michel Normand norm...@linux.vnet.ibm.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||1051573

File CPAN-Uploader-0.103007.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2014-05-05 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-CPAN-Uploader: a0e45898c6d981cd8232a37584644be4 CPAN-Uploader-0.103007.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-CPAN-Uploader] 0.103007 bump

2014-05-05 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 6c6d9210cde02b6f37200c23a576f1716cb068d9 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Mon May 5 10:52:09 2014 +0200 0.103007 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-CPAN-Uploader.spec | 40 +--- sources |2 +- 3 files

Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2014-05-05 Thread buildsys
perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On i386: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On armhfp:

[Bug 1094169] perl-Params-Validate make check error

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094169 --- Comment #2 from Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de --- Well, I am pretty much clueless about what to do with this BZ. perl-Params-Validate has always had problems with its pod-checks. In Fedora, I have been trying to work around these by

[Bug 1094283] New: 1.019 version is available

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094283 Bug ID: 1094283 Summary: 1.019 version is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Perl-PrereqScanner Assignee: iarn...@gmail.com Reporter:

[Bug 1085211] perl-Dist-Zilla-4.300023-4.fc21 FTBFS

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1085211 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Depends On||1094283 Referenced

[Bug 1094283] 1.019 version is available

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094283 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED

File Perl-PrereqScanner-1.019.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2014-05-05 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Perl-PrereqScanner: ea7ae5c1d7a5fc494410375aafb59045 Perl-PrereqScanner-1.019.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 1085211] perl-Dist-Zilla-4.300023-4.fc21 FTBFS

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1085211 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Depends On||1094289 Referenced

File Mixin-Linewise-0.106.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2014-05-05 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mixin-Linewise: d4699cde97d8286f44624c1d19663334 Mixin-Linewise-0.106.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

File Dist-Zilla-5.015.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2014-05-05 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Dist-Zilla: 576948ec0e2a3f53f53b4471da578e9a Dist-Zilla-5.015.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 1085211] perl-Dist-Zilla-4.300023-4.fc21 FTBFS

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1085211 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED QA

[Bug 1094395] perl-IPC-Run make check failure for ppc64le archi

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094395 Michel Normand norm...@linux.vnet.ibm.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||1051573

[Bug 1094169] perl-Params-Validate make check error

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094169 Menanteau Guy menan...@linux.vnet.ibm.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[Bug 1094442] perl-libwww-perl: incorrect handling of SSL certificate verification [fedora-all]

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094442 --- Comment #1 from Vincent Danen vda...@redhat.com --- Use the following update submission link to create the Bodhi request for this issue as it contains the top-level parent bug(s) as well as this tracking bug. This will ensure that all

[Bug 1094440] perl-libwww-perl: incorrect handling of SSL certificate verification

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094440 Vincent Danen vda...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Depends On||1094442 --- Comment

[Bug 1094442] New: perl-libwww-perl: incorrect handling of SSL certificate verification [fedora-all]

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094442 Bug ID: 1094442 Summary: perl-libwww-perl: incorrect handling of SSL certificate verification [fedora-all] Product: Fedora Version: 20 Component: perl-libwww-perl

File Config-General-2.56.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by gnat

2014-05-05 Thread Nathanael Noblet
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Config-General: 8cf9dd044d016f27b4dc26077606736d Config-General-2.56.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Config-General] upstream release

2014-05-05 Thread Nathanael Noblet
commit 88435397324584dad7e066a21f3163d865da7048 Author: Nathanael d. Noblet nathan...@noblet.ca Date: Mon May 5 15:18:10 2014 -0600 upstream release perl-Config-General.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[Bug 1093676] perl-Config-General-2.54 is available

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1093676 Nathanael Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED

[Bug 1094169] perl-Params-Validate make check error

2014-05-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094169 --- Comment #4 from Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de --- (In reply to Menanteau Guy from comment #3) (In reply to Ralf Corsepius from comment #2) Hi, I tried also to understand this problem without success (seems relative to the way

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