Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Pete Travis
On 01/22/2015 07:15 PM, Haïkel wrote: > 2015-01-21 11:49 GMT+01:00 Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos : >> >> Step 6: ... If the proposed package is not reviewed for 2 months, the >> package must be reviewed by the submitter, and a git module with the >> master branch will be approved. >> > > I share your con

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split

2015-01-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 04:41:53AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > I agree on the systemd-filesystem side of things, the binaries sounds > like it would be better described as systemd-utils with a provides for > -units. This could be a good idea, but I think that having an additional name would caus

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split

2015-01-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 03:06:32AM +, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > On Fri Jan 23 2015 at 9:43:02 AM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > > On Wed, 21.01.15 12:21, Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > > Systemd contains many binaries and depends on a fairly large number of > > > l

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split

2015-01-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 03:42:47AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 21.01.15 12:21, Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > Systemd contains many binaries and depends on a fairly large number of > > libraries. Packages which carry systemd units currently have to depend on > >

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split

2015-01-22 Thread Peter Robinson
>> > Systemd contains many binaries and depends on a fairly large number of >> > libraries. Packages which carry systemd units currently have to depend >> > on >> > systemd (through %post, %preun, %postun macros used to install and >> > uninstall >> > systemd units), which grows the dependency tree

Re: another dnf problem

2015-01-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Radek Holy wrote: > > [...] >> >> What actually do you want? >> >> I'm really interested in what users expect when they use "installonly" >> packages in any command except "install" and "remove". I strongly believe >> that >> there is a group

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split

2015-01-22 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Fri Jan 23 2015 at 9:43:02 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 21.01.15 12:21, Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > Systemd contains many binaries and depends on a fairly large number of > > libraries. Packages which carry systemd units currently have to depend on > > systemd (

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2015-01-21)

2015-01-22 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Fri Jan 23 2015 at 4:45:32 AM Björn Persson wrote: > Dennis Gilmore wrote: > >* #1381 Nonresponsive maintainer: odysseus (dgilmore, 18:17:42) > > * AGREED: he is awol and his packages should be orphaned per the > >process (7+, 0-) (dgilmore, 18:23:43) > > Fedora is less patient than Pen

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split

2015-01-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 21.01.15 12:21, Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) wrote: > Systemd contains many binaries and depends on a fairly large number of > libraries. Packages which carry systemd units currently have to depend on > systemd (through %post, %preun, %postun macros used to install and uninstall

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Haïkel
2015-01-21 11:49 GMT+01:00 Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos : > > Step 6: ... If the proposed package is not reviewed for 2 months, the > package must be reviewed by the submitter, and a git module with the > master branch will be approved. > I share your concern about the pending list but self-review is n

Re: Orphaning lua-sec, lua-dbi and prosody

2015-01-22 Thread Dan Callaghan
Excerpts from Haïkel's message of 2015-01-23 11:46 +10:00: > FYI, Prosody needs to be ported to Lua 5.2 (and we're updating to 5.3). > It will either require patching Prosody and some dependencies or provide > lua compatibility packages. We already have Lua 5.1 compat packages for Prosody in F21+,

Re: Orphaning lua-sec, lua-dbi and prosody

2015-01-22 Thread Haïkel
FYI, Prosody needs to be ported to Lua 5.2 (and we're updating to 5.3). It will either require patching Prosody and some dependencies or provide lua compatibility packages. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of

Re: Orphaning lua-sec, lua-dbi and prosody

2015-01-22 Thread Dan Callaghan
Excerpts from Johan Cwiklinski's message of 2015-01-17 03:39 +10:00: > I've orphaned lua-sec, lua-dbi and prosody packages. > > Feel free to take ownership of those ones. Jan, I see that you are a comaintainer of prosody already and have helped with updates before. Would you be willing to take t

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-22 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Igor Gnatenko > wrote: > > + gnome-calendar btw gnome-2048 on review already > > > FWIW this one is not complete; maybe it will be ready for GNOME 3.16, but I > would expect it to be included in GNOME 3.1

Re: Fedora-review broken in F-21

2015-01-22 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2015-01-22 at 13:31 -0700, Jerry James wrote: > I don't know for sure, but I suspect the new version of mock that was > just pushed out in F-21 updates broke fedora-review. At least, > fedora-review is now broken, and I don't see any other recent updates > that seem likely to be the cause

Re: python3-pyparted in F20/F21?

2015-01-22 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 01/22/2015 03:17 PM, John Florian wrote: > If I read this page[1] correctly, python3-pyparted should be available > starting with F20, yet… > > > Did I miss something? Looks like apps doesn't quite handle subpackages correctly. So while pyparted is in F20, that version doesn't provide pytho

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 13:40 +0100, Jan Zelený wrote: > On 21. 1. 2015 at 11:07:31, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > 1) DNF will be the default package manager for F22 [2], so > > > > > everything is > > > > > ok here. > > > > > > > > I really wonder what is the state here. This is on my rawhide: >

python3-pyparted in F20/F21?

2015-01-22 Thread John Florian
If I read this page[1] correctly, python3-pyparted should be available starting with F20, yet... sudo yum install python3-pyparted Loaded plugins: langpacks, list-data No package python3-pyparted available. Error: Nothing to do Did I miss something? [1] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/p

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2015-01-21)

2015-01-22 Thread Björn Persson
Dennis Gilmore wrote: >* #1381 Nonresponsive maintainer: odysseus (dgilmore, 18:17:42) > * AGREED: he is awol and his packages should be orphaned per the >process (7+, 0-) (dgilmore, 18:23:43) Fedora is less patient than Penelope was. :-) -- Björn Persson pgpXH5OxrBANS.pgp Description:

Fedora-review broken in F-21

2015-01-22 Thread Jerry James
I don't know for sure, but I suspect the new version of mock that was just pushed out in F-21 updates broke fedora-review. At least, fedora-review is now broken, and I don't see any other recent updates that seem likely to be the cause of the problem. Here's what happens when I try to use fedora-

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Vagrant

2015-01-22 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 11:09 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 10:21 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > == Scope == > > * Proposal Owners: Initial work has been done in for Vagrant on F20 > > in a Copr repository. > > I'm really really interested in vagrant on fedora. I am

Re: Review request: sflphone

2015-01-22 Thread Sandro Mani
On 22.01.2015 18:50, Jerry James wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, I've got sflphone (SIP/IAX2 compatible softphone) up for review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1180698 Not high priority, but a nice to have. Happy to review in exchange. I just

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.01.2015 um 18:11 schrieb drago01: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.01.2015 um 17:59 schrieb drago01: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.01.2015 um 23:55 schrieb Yanko Kaneti: When did Fedora become the place which only welcomes m

File Net-Twitter-4.01008.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by jdunn

2015-01-22 Thread Julian C. Dunn
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Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Vagrant

2015-01-22 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 10:21 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > == Scope == > * Proposal Owners: Initial work has been done in for Vagrant on F20 > in a Copr repository. I'm really really interested in vagrant on fedora. I am however running F21. The copr is only for F20. Any chance one can be creat

Re: Review request: sflphone

2015-01-22 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi, > > I've got sflphone (SIP/IAX2 compatible softphone) up for review at > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1180698 > > Not high priority, but a nice to have. Happy to review in exchange. I just sent email about a list of packag

Review swaps

2015-01-22 Thread Jerry James
When I iniatially submitted GAP and some of its packages as Fedora packages, I followed what Debian was doing at the time. I think we can do a few things a little better now. One way is to stop translating the GAP package names into human readable form, and just use the upstream names. Rather th

Re: Python 3 as a Default - Status

2015-01-22 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > How exactly is Fedora Atomic generated? It seems that fedpra-cloud-atomic.ks > has no %packages section... > I can find out how we're doing with Atomic assuming I know how it's > constructed :) It uses rpm-ostree; the input manifest

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 11:30 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > Penalize in what sense? > > In the sense, that in addition to packaging something new you have to > > review something else in order to get your new package in. If reviewing > > is voluntary it should affect every packager the same, n

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-22 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 22.01.2015 um 17:59 schrieb drago01: >> This is just a game > > keep your insults for yourself > maybe for you it is just a game That was not an insult, but was referring to the software in question, gnome-2048 - which is indeed a ga

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-22 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 22.01.2015 um 17:59 schrieb drago01: >> >> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 21.01.2015 um 23:55 schrieb Yanko Kaneti: When did Fedora become the place which only welcomes mature software? >>>

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
> On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 09:57 -0500, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > > That's good for you, but unacceptable to me. That way we penalize people > > > who add packages. > > Penalize in what sense? > > In the sense, that in addition to packaging something new you have to > review something else in order t

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.01.2015 um 17:59 schrieb drago01: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.01.2015 um 23:55 schrieb Yanko Kaneti: When did Fedora become the place which only welcomes mature software? IMHO what you seem to aspire to is somewhat in conflict with the release early, rele

Re: Python 3 as a Default - Status

2015-01-22 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:31:12AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > Yeah, as I've noted in the sum-up mail, it's clear that we won't be > > able to switch server (and possibly workstation) completely, although > > I'm quite sure we will be able to switch the minimal

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-22 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 21.01.2015 um 23:55 schrieb Yanko Kaneti: >> >> On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 12:26 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Igor Gnatenko < >>> i.gnatenko.br...@gmail.com> wrote: + gnome-calendar b

Re: Python 3 as a Default - Status

2015-01-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:31:12AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > Yeah, as I've noted in the sum-up mail, it's clear that we won't be > able to switch server (and possibly workstation) completely, although > I'm quite sure we will be able to switch the minimal cloud image to > python3 only (again,

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 04:18:15PM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote: > No problem, IIRC every package can declare itself protected by > dropping a file into /etc/dnf/protected.d/ A good example of DNF developers listening to user concerns and adjusting plans, by the way. > wrong with discussions on devel@

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 01:56:23PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > I am confident that we will have everything ready at the right > > time. The way I read it, the change deadline is about testability > > and general availability of the feature - that's ok for us. At that > > point we will be ready

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 01:13:51PM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote: > > The onus in Fedora has _ALWAYS_ been to prove that the new feature is > > complete and ready to replace the existing working solution, not for > > everyone else to prove that it's not. > I'm not so sure about that. Off the top of my he

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-22 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 17:00 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 21.1.2015 v 17:12 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:13:24 +0100 > > Mathieu Bridon wrote: > > > On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 11:02 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > >> I am using mock for Fedora development with DNF enabled by def

Re: DNF and mock

2015-01-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 17:00:44 +0100 Jan Zelený wrote: > -- snip -- > > > I have a notion, that after branching of Fedora 22 I will change > > > /etc/mock/fedora-rawhide-*.cfg > > > to use DNF by default. I.e. everything build for Fedora 23 would > >

Re: Python 3 as a Default - Status

2015-01-22 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015, at 08:22 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > Hi all, > > since the "Python 3 as a Default" change [1] has been accepted a while ago > > and is scheduled for F22, I'd like to share with you the status. > > > > The proposed change [1] mentions several

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 04:37:22PM +0100, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > > > > And there is nothing wrong with review swaps. You help others, > > > > they help you. > > > That's good for you, but unacceptable to me. That way we penalize people > > > who add packages. > > Penalize in what sense?

Re: F22 System Wide Change: RpmOstree - Server side composes and atomic upgrades

2015-01-22 Thread Jan Zelený
On 20. 1. 2015 at 08:40:30, Colin Walters wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015, at 06:27 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > > You are probably right, I might have misunderstood what you actually > > propose. Does it mean that you actually don't require this part to be > > implemented at all and you can go with what'

Re: DNF and mock

2015-01-22 Thread Jan Zelený
-- snip -- > > I have a notion, that after branching of Fedora 22 I will change > > /etc/mock/fedora-rawhide-*.cfg > > to use DNF by default. I.e. everything build for Fedora 23 would use > > DNF for building. > > This is not really true. Koji write out its own mock configs and will > not be usi

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-22 Thread Vít Ondruch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 21.1.2015 v 17:12 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): > On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:13:24 +0100 > Mathieu Bridon wrote: > > > On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 11:02 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> Dne 21.1.2015 v 10:35 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > >>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 a

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Tunir

2015-01-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, > Tunir is a self contained CI Continuous Integration [1] which will be used to > test Fedora Cloud images nightly. What relationship, if any, does this have with Taskotron? Do I understand correctly that this Change does not involve / require setting up automated test runs by rel-eng or F

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 15:08 +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 14:49 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Unfortunately review swaps don't work for new packagers, before they are > > sponsored. They are encouraged to do informal reviews, but those reviews > > don't carry

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 09:57 -0500, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > That's wishful thinking. I proposed that rule in order to make apparent > > the fact that there are not enough reviewers and new packages are > > blocked in the queue. Ignoring the fact isn't going to make it go away. > True, there are n

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 04:04:37PM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: > On 22/01/15 15:17, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 03:08:28PM +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > >> On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 14:49 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >>> Unfortunately review swaps don

F22 Self Contained Change: Vagrant

2015-01-22 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Vagrant = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Vagrant Change owner(s): Josef Stribny Provide Vagrant http://www.vagrantup.com/ with the libvirt provider as a default. == Detailed Description == Vagrant is an automation tool used to manage development enviro

Re: DNF and mock

2015-01-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 03:15:48PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > I just spoke with two members of DNF team about default usage of DNF in mock. > I would like to share outcomes of this > meeting. > > First I would like to state that you can already optionally use DNF in your > mock by setting: >

Self Introduction: Vojtech Trefny

2015-01-22 Thread Vojtěch Trefný
Hi all, my name is Vojtech Trefny and I am from the Czech Republic. I have been using Linux and OSS for nearly ten years now. I spent most of this time in Ubuntu community doing non-development work (localisation, documentation, advocacy...), but I switched to Fedora in 2013, joined Red Hat l

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Matthias Runge
On 22/01/15 15:17, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 03:08:28PM +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote: >> On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 14:49 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >>> Unfortunately review swaps don't work for new packagers, before they are >>> sponsored. They are encou

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
> On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 12:10 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > I'd like to propose an amendment to allow > > > bringing packages even if no reviewers are available (the typical case). > > > > > > Step 6: ... If the proposed package is not reviewed for 2 months, the > > > package must be reviewed by

Re: DNF and mock

2015-01-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 15:15:48 +0100 Miroslav Suchý wrote: > I just spoke with two members of DNF team about default usage of DNF > in mock. I would like to share outcomes of this meeting. > > First I would like to state that you can already optionall

Re: Testers needed: KDE kcm_touchpad libinput support

2015-01-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
> Please add this copr > https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/whot/kcm_touchpad/ > > Please review this branch: > https://github.com/whot/kcm_touchpad/tree/wip/libinput-support Thanks for taking on this additional work. Mirek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.f

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-22 Thread Jan Zelený
On 22. 1. 2015 at 15:06:34, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:33:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 20.1.2015 v 14:22 Bohuslav Kabrda napsal(a): > > > 1) DNF will be the default package manager for F22 [2], so everything is > > > ok here.> > > I really wonder what is the state her

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 03:08:28PM +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 14:49 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Unfortunately review swaps don't work for new packagers, before they are > > sponsored. They are encouraged to do informal reviews, but those reviews > > don't

DNF and mock

2015-01-22 Thread Miroslav Suchý
I just spoke with two members of DNF team about default usage of DNF in mock. I would like to share outcomes of this meeting. First I would like to state that you can already optionally use DNF in your mock by setting: config_opts['package_manager'] = 'dnf' in your /etc/mock/site-defaults.cf

Re: libicu upgrade to 54.1 with soname bump in rawhide

2015-01-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Eike Rathke wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> >> On Wednesday, 2015-01-21 11:35:53 +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >>> > I plan to upgrade libicu to 54.1 in rawhide >>> >>> Will you be doing this in a side tag and then

Re: libicu upgrade to 54.1 with soname bump in rawhide

2015-01-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi Peter, > > On Wednesday, 2015-01-21 11:35:53 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> > I plan to upgrade libicu to 54.1 in rawhide >> >> Will you be doing this in a side tag and then getting rel-eng to tag >> the resulting builds in like most bump

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 14:49 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Unfortunately review swaps don't work for new packagers, before they are > sponsored. They are encouraged to do informal reviews, but those reviews > don't carry formal weight. I propose to change this, and allow non-sponsored

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:33:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 20.1.2015 v 14:22 Bohuslav Kabrda napsal(a): > > 1) DNF will be the default package manager for F22 [2], so everything is ok > > here. > > I really wonder what is the state here. This is on my rawhide: > # dnf remove yum > python3-c

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:10:19PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 21.1.2015 v 11:49 Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos napsal(a): > > I'd like to propose an amendment to allow > > bringing packages even if no reviewers are available (the typical case). > > > > Step 6: ... If the proposed package is not revie

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-22 Thread Marcel Oliver
Pete Zaitcev writes: > On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:22:57 +0100 > Marcel Oliver wrote: > > > Are these considered bugs that I should file against the package? Is > > there a policy that applies? > > I think you should file. I had in the past made maintainers of gvim > (vim-X11) and evince tak

Re: libicu upgrade to 54.1 with soname bump in rawhide

2015-01-22 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Peter, On Wednesday, 2015-01-21 11:35:53 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > I plan to upgrade libicu to 54.1 in rawhide > > Will you be doing this in a side tag and then getting rel-eng to tag > the resulting builds in like most bumps (see ruby 2.2 thread from > earlier this week as an example)

Re: another dnf problem

2015-01-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:25:40 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > I installed kernel* from updates-testing. Now I want to go back to > distro-sync. > Let's try it: > sudo dnf distro-sync kernel* > Error: problem with installed package kernel-3.17.7-300.local.fc21.x86_64. > problem with installed packag

Re: another dnf problem

2015-01-22 Thread Neal Becker
Radek Holy wrote: [...] > > What actually do you want? > > I'm really interested in what users expect when they use "installonly" > packages in any command except "install" and "remove". I strongly believe that > there is a group of users that expect that "downgrade kernel" simply installs > an

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread David Timms
On 21/01/15 22:15, Matthias Runge wrote: > On 21/01/15 11:49, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > >> I don't have a solution to bring extra resources to reviewing (which >> will be the ideal), but I'd like to propose an amendment to allow >> bringing packages even if no reviewers are available (the t

Re: another dnf problem

2015-01-22 Thread Tom Hughes
On 22/01/15 10:03, Radek Holy wrote: What actually do you want? I'm really interested in what users expect when they use "installonly" packages in any command except "install" and "remove". I strongly believe that there is a group of users that expect that "downgrade kernel" simply installs a

Re: another dnf problem

2015-01-22 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - > From: "Neal Becker" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:25:40 AM > Subject: another dnf problem > > I installed kernel* from updates-testing. Now I want to go back to > distro-sync. > Let's try it: > sudo dnf distro-sync kernel*

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 01:16:47PM +0100, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 12:10 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > And there is nothing wrong with review swaps. You help others, they help > > you. > > That's good for you, but unacceptable to me. That way we penalize people > who

Re: Orphaning freefem++

2015-01-22 Thread Sandro Mani
On 22.01.2015 02:04, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: "DM" == Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski writes: DM> I meant each new release of freefem++. The build process tries to DM> download sources for many external libraries and patches some of DM> them, so you have to work around it. Hmm. I looked at

Re: another dnf problem

2015-01-22 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > I installed kernel* from updates-testing. Now I want to go back to > distro-sync. > Let's try it: > sudo dnf distro-sync kernel* > Error: problem with installed package kernel-3.17.7-300.local.fc21.x86_64. > problem with installed package ker