ther SELinux yes or not, it may be a good idea but IMNSHO it is
> not for a development machine.
I definitely agree on taking out "rhgb quiet", that's annoying as all hell,
not knowing what's going on during the boot process.
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does not require "specialist knowledge", but is much more powerful once you do
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On Saturday, June 20, 2020 4:37:06 PM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 17:42, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 5:25 PM John M. Harris Jr
> > wrote:
>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Saturday, June
On Saturday, June 20, 2020 2:40:48 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 5:25 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, June 20, 2020 4:42:17 AM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> >
> > > TL;DR benefits of modularity for Fedora:
> >
's one of the key issues with the tech.
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>
>
> Absolute -1!
>
> IMHO, removing working packages from users' systems just because the new
> release no longer ships them is entirely unnecessary and a total disservice
> to users.
Agreed, this Change would irrecoverably harm users' systems up
On Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:22:08 PM MST Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 1:59 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:24:46 AM MST Josh Boyer wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > > The base requirement is that the UX re
r add separate discrete repos per Application Stream, etc.
Why is this a concern for RHEL9, where it wasn't for RHEL8? Moving to
Modularity has certainly hurt RHEL7 migrations for exactly that reason,
customers are forced to learn something entirely different to adopt RHEL8, and
On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 2:50:55 AM MST Kevin Kofler wrote:
> John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > What's even more wild is that you can't easily disable it. Even though
> > it's supposed to be disabled ("vendor preset: disabled") it's actually
> > built into syste
On Friday, June 12, 2020 12:04:06 PM MST Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:47 am, John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
>
> > Why?
>
>
> John, this was a thread about a data center move. There was no need to
> change the topic. :)
That wasn't a ch
ill be done, so here I am sending an email.
>
>
> So, could anything be done about any of this?
The projects themselves don't care what we actually support, it's the views of
a very vocal handful that get thrown onto those sorts of things. Not a whole
lot we can do about it, Ty.
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On Friday, June 12, 2020 2:26:43 AM MST Igor Raits wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 21:24 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, June 11, 2020 9:09:53 PM MST Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >
> > > We are working on getting this install moved over to recent
> > &
On Thursday, June 11, 2020 9:09:53 PM MST Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> We are working on getting this install moved over to recent
> fedora or rhel, but for now it's rhel7 and python34.
RHEL7 is better than RHEL8 anyway. ;)
I'm planning to skip RHEL8 entirely, it's totally b0rked.
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On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 2:24:02 AM MST Kevin Kofler wrote:
> John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > I wonder if we could get that masked in Fedora Server and KDE Spin,
> > potentially along with homed, userdb, repart (Who in the world thought
> > this was a good idea?), resolve
ever growing list of absurd
things thrown into an init system.
These things are not discoverable at all. This stuff really needs to stop
trying to guess what the user/sysadmin wants to do.
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rator but it doesn't look as polished in
> terms of integration or documentation.
Well, that's really the point. The one you're using is one of the (4? 5?)
other zram implementations. It seems a bit more straightforward than the
systemd one for sure.
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> 2:
> https://github.com/Hi-Angel/scripts/blob/master/warn-on-low-memory.pl
Zswap sounds like an excellent idea to look into instead of zram. Not only
that, but it'd allow traditional entry in fstab to configure it, instead of
some
On Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:16:02 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 6/6/20 10:41 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:15:35 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/6/20 12:42 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
the zpool memory cache is
> preallocated, unlike zram devices.
>
> (I am not going to envy any who decide to implement zswap on a system
> with ZFS. Wait wait wait, which zpool are you talking about?!)
Which zswap are you talking about?
Swap on compressed zvol has been called zswap at
On Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:15:35 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 6/6/20 12:42 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On my laptop, a Lenovo X200T with Core(TM)2 Duo CPU U9300; 6 GiB RAM,
> > enabling swap on zram led to increased CPU usage (Always above 13% where
> > normall
has
> feature parity, we can definitely consider trying it out. But the
> referene compiler works just well.
>
>
> >
> >
> > Core system components should be written in C. The higher layers (UI,
> > extra
> > CLI tools, etc.) can use C++ as well. IMHO, any
On Friday, June 5, 2020 11:57:50 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 6/5/20 11:43 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > Completely agreed, going about it this way would also address most of my
> > concerns with this change, as it would mean it's easy for people like
> > myself to
ing about it this way would also address most of my
concerns with this change, as it would mean it's easy for people like myself
to opt out.
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On Friday, June 5, 2020 4:32:55 PM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
> On 6/4/20 1:36 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 9:05:22 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> >> UEFI Secure Boot doesn't prevent you from gaining access to firmware
&g
On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:39:05 PM MST Igor Raits wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 12:19 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:16:36 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:10 PM John M. Harris Jr <
> >
On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:38:01 PM MST Igor Raits wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 12:18 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:12:40 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:07 PM John M. Harris Jr <
> >
On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:16:36 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:10 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:03:03 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>
>
> > > In discussions with both cloud and server folk
On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:12:40 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:07 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 11:48:14 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at
On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:03:03 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 11:47 AM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:54:37 PM MST Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Also -1 to adding something to the core
espect the user's decision, and not add a zram device on
upgraded systems. This would lead to less unexpected behavior. I'd support
that, for sure :)
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On Friday, June 5, 2020 11:12:10 AM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:09 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 10:49:52 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:35 A
don't have numbers to support that claim, and most devices
require "Secure Boot" to be disabled, or to have the mode changed so that it
accepts new keys, to install Fedora.
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that hibernation is only broken on systems with Secure
Boot enabled, because of a kernel lockdown anti-feature.
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des, GNOME already has this enabled, right? It's definitely not
right for servers, as I brought up the last time this was thrown around.
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'm skeptical that pin shorts permit you to gain access
> to such things - but if so, it's clearly a vulnerability that should
> be reported.
This is by design. Generally, there's a marking on the silkscreen with
something like "PWD" or "PASSWD&quo
On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 12:08:44 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:18 AM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 10:52:07 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:42 PM John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 12:06:19 PM MST Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 21:58 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:45:45 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 10:28 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > >
&g
On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 10:52:07 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:42 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
>
> > In what way is it incompatible with UEFI Secure Boot?
>
>
> Secure Boot does boot verification. Hibernation right now doesn't. And
>
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/CAJCQCtQVGqxtZZTRgscT7e4inTacAd7KAmoNOz3gB4
> hf1nk...@mail.gmail.com/
>
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e this
> change.
>
> Regards, Joe
If it's dropped, it wouldn't really be possible for me to make a mod_php
package to replace it due to the integration, so I can't really see a way of
keeping a compat package if it's removed, and keeping it around doesn't break
anything.
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On Saturday, May 30, 2020 12:36:46 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 9:12 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Friday, May 29, 2020 5:25:23 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 6:06 PM John M. Harris
rk and the developer hasn't found enough
> time to get back into it yet.
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A good option until then is to just take unsigned hibernation images and work
like literally every other system. There's no reason to take away this
functionality.
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On Friday, May 29, 2020 5:15:45 PM MST Colin Walters wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2020, at 8:01 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
>
> > WebAssembly is just in web browsers. It's not for normal software you'd
> > install with your package manager. Unless I'm missing something?
&
On Friday, May 29, 2020 5:25:23 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 6:06 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry, but this makes absolutely no sense.
>
>
> Disliking the story is not the same thing as it not making sense.
> There
ds to boot back in, but I was right where I
left off. What exactly is broken, and for what portion of users?
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at does WebAssembly have to do with real programs?
> IOW, it doesn't make sense to invest much in LLVM IR versus WebAssembly.
WebAssembly is just in web browsers. It's not for normal software you'd
install with your package manager. Unless I'm missing something?
On Friday, May 29, 2020 1:24:30 AM MST Igor Raits wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 01:00 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:59:41 PM MST Remi Collet wrote:
> >
> > > Le 29/05/2020 à 06:15, John M. Harris Jr a écrit :
> > >
;
>
> On 2020-05-29 1:01 a.m., John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > Paul,
> > What benefit do you see in the overhead of LLVM IR, compared to standard
> > packages?
>
>
> John,
>
> Where do you see overhead in the distribution of LLVM IR?
See below resp
On Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:59:41 PM MST Remi Collet wrote:
> Le 29/05/2020 à 06:15, John M. Harris Jr a écrit :
>
> > Please do not drop mod_php. It is NOT the case that "php-fpm is already
> > used but most users of httpd and nginx without any issue."
&g
rpreter."
>
> But when I proposed that, I was not aware main developer had been hired
> by Apple. And like people have replied before, they don't like the Clang
> (C, C++ LLVM-based compiler) I guess in good part because of the more
> permissive license than GPL it use: Il
t any issue."
If the rationale behind this is a maintenance burden, I would be happy to
assist with maintaining the package. Many people still use mod_php, in fact
it's the standard way to configure PHP with Apache on just about every server
that is currently running. Dropping mod_php will
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:56:48 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/26/20 8:13 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:08:52 PM MST Miro Hrončok wrote:
> >
> >> On 27. 05. 20 0:56, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> >>
> >>
&
> update, too.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dominik
> >
> > [1] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-2d381e061b
>
>
> Fedora 30 went EOL before the update was pushed to stable.
And that killed a *security update*? Seriously?
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Based on the conclusions section, where it talks only of Fedora releases as
goal dates, I can't see that as being the case.
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>
>
> Unless you're going to personally volunteer to making a new, stable,
> drop-in replacement C API if they do Open Source their driver or make a
> new one and integrate it with the kernel?
>
>
> Willing to bet you or anyone else here w
t modules. This way, RHEL devs could have gotten their toy into
Fedora, but without disrupting Fedora.
I didn't really mean to make this about Modularity, so to get back on track..
I don't believe anyone in the Fedora community views the Fedora community
itself as "unpaid labor". M
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:17:08 PM MST Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Monday, May 11, 2020 11:27:06 AM MST Ben Cotton wrote:
> >
> > > 3. How should we handle cases where Fedora's and
providing rubber stamps to
changes. If folks are uncertain about a given change, it's certainly very
valid to abstain, and if many people are abstaining, the issue is with the
proposal, not the voters.
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edora, after all, not RHEL. That
might be a good question for Red Hat to think about internally, for the RH
employees in FESCo, but that's it.
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So, effectively, this is just Red Hat/IBM looking for free labor from Fedora
developers? That's how this comes across, at least with that wording. If it's
just a matter of allowing development to happen in public, Red Hat/IBM could
simply make their repository available publicly
On Saturday, May 9, 2020 11:58:43 PM MST Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 10. 05. 20 0:09, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:40:02 PM MST Miro Hrončok wrote:
> >
> >> On 09. 05. 20 22:56, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >
On Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:40:02 PM MST Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 09. 05. 20 22:56, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:38:36 PM MST Miro Hrončok wrote:
> >
> >> The command that the user executes is "python3.9", not "p
this as well, and it's a damned shame. It would have been nice if
these packages could have been kept. They still work, even now, and are still
widely used.
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On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:38:36 PM MST Miro Hrončok wrote:
> The command that the user executes is "python3.9", not "python39".
Let's be realistic. The command they run is 'python', 'python2' or 'python3'.
Sure, it's a symlink, but that's what users actually type to b
; - logical volumes: Set "issue_discards = 1" in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf so that
> removed LVs get discarded.
Are you asking for these just in Workstation, or are you suggesting that this
is something all of Fedora adopts?
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On Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:00:27 AM MST Göran Uddeborg wrote:
> Leigh Scott:
>
> > If there any plan to fix them?
>
>
> Pick another if you don't like the default.
It's a larger issue than that if the default wallpapers make people think
they're having graphics issues.
idual, and to make this a
CoC issue is absurd. If anything, attacking Leigh like this is against the
Four Foundations, specifically the "Friends" portion.
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gt; Probably on Windows.
Most likely, multi-platform. There have been a few so big the NSA stepped in
and started warning people they needed to update.
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On Friday, April 17, 2020 5:49:48 AM MST Leigh Scott wrote:
> If there any plan to fix them?
>
> https://leigh123linux.fedorapeople.org/pub/screenshots/Screenshot%20from%202
> 020-04-17%2013-32-22.png
Wow, that does look pretty shitty. Perhaps one of the old ones could be re-
used?
gt;
> Kevin Kofler
Let's be honest, this doesn't even really make sense for RHEL.
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On Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:41:07 AM MST John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> Really, it may be best to go about this in the same way as Ubuntu, with
> nss- dns instead of nss-resolve.. Editing /etc/resolv.conf is still
> commonly done on Fedora, especially on servers. In fact, I n
fied when building systemd. it's a fallback
> to make things more robust, i.e. making sure DNS works if possible.
>
> Lennart
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If there are no servers configured... Shouldn't it use no servers?
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> by NetworkManager. /etc/resolv.conf will no longer be read when
> performing name resolution using glibc; however, it is still provided
> for compatibility with applications that manually read this file to
> p
n the pungi configuration.
>
> -- Petr
In that case, it looks like this change could potentially fix RHEL if it goes
through? Or are you saying it'd try to force that policy onto Fedora?
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On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 3:29:58 AM MST Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
> John,
>
> On Tuesday, 24 March 2020 at 06:16, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Further, attempting to censor *this topic* is not in the spirit of the
> > Friends foundation eith
hin the
project which led to his blog being removed from Fedora Planet. Further,
attempting to censor *this topic* is not in the spirit of the Friends
foundation either. It is important that we, as a community, can discuss the
rules we've chosen to govern our actions within this project. If we can
Red Hat
> TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis
It was not in the spirit of our Friends foundation to take Daniel's blog off
the Fedora Planet.
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ganizations can behave like that, why should the
> > > Code of Conduct deny a volunteer a right of reply?
> >
> > Silly Daniel, you aren't supposed to question the supreme leaders. You
> > have to fall in line and never question anything.
> >
> >
> > If you
e
Debian, OSI or GNOME mailing list, where these folks can take their CoC fight.
In the future, I believe removing the CoC link from the footer of messages on
this mailing list would prevent these sorts of threads from cropping up.
Silvia,
There is not as much of a difference between communism and f
> Your comments on this, please.
>
> Best regards,
> Marius Schwarz
If you're drawing a direct comparison to the Fedora boot process from the
Windows process, the point at which Windows is presenting an OSK is about at
the point after which initrd is loaded in the Fedora boot pr
trd is loaded in the Fedora boot process. It's not
happening at the bootloader itself.
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On Friday, February 21, 2020 10:52:27 PM MST Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 22. 02. 20 1:28, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> > I really must disagree.
>
>
> In my opinion, once you simply disagree with literally everything, your
> feedback no longer gives any significant me
On Friday, February 21, 2020 9:03:26 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 7:28 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Friday, February 21, 2020 2:31:14 AM MST jkone...@redhat.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
ot
imagine what 1400 UTC was chosen to align with, or how this will be any less
confusing. This seems like it'd only be *more* confusing.
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is the best person to take that place
within EPEL's Steering Committee. As an enterprise admin, RHEL8 has been
nothing but a nightmare to deal with because of Modularity. I know Troy didn't
singlehandedly sign off on that nonsense, but, as he is a member of the
Modularity team, this is not a good sign
plied today
> > > > or tomorrow. Anything else can wait a week or two.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > (snip)
> >
> >
> >
> > > The repo metadata has the property, so packagers just have to set it
> > > in B
On Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:25:01 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 2:23 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:19:41 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 11:08
On Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:19:41 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 11:08 AM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, February 13, 2020 1:34:32 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > But the contra argument is, well what i
users, or those using GNOME Software.
KDE users did not get that notification.
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On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 3:44:17 AM MST Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 09:05:27PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > On Monday, February 10, 2020 12:03:25 PM MST Robbie Harwood wrote:
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> > > "John M. Harris Jr" writes:
> &g
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 3:28:36 AM MST Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> On 2020-02-11 05:05, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > They do, but that doesn't negate the fact that it is actually supported
> > (you can hibernate your system), and using swap on zram outright b
es immediately, but why not just give the user an option for
security updates? This is what Mac and Windows do, and it makes sense because
it's really the user's opinion of security updates that matter on their
system.
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On Monday, February 10, 2020 10:53:45 AM MST Jared K. Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 3:30 AM John M. Harris Jr
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> > As for the software available, that's called choice. I know
> > it's a relative unknown in the GNOME world, as one option is shoved down
On Monday, February 10, 2020 12:03:25 PM MST Robbie Harwood wrote:
> "John M. Harris Jr" writes:
> > On Saturday, January 25, 2020 2:52:05 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >> Question and (pre)proposal:
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> >> Can Fedora converge on a single swap-on-
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 6:31:37 PM MST Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:07:21AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> > EOL is not, literally, EOL. EOL just means the complete end of support, in
> > commercial products. Still doesn't mean systems with that versio
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 9:40:09 PM MST John Reiser wrote:
> John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > Using swap on zram disables the ability to hibernate, making it a
> > non-starter for many users. If this is going to be thrown into anything,
> > the user needs to
On Sunday, February 9, 2020 3:54:51 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 5:36 PM John M. Harris Jr
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> > On Friday, January 31, 2020 7:58:55 AM MST Peter Robinson wrote:
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> > > Feankly if a proprietary piece of softw
t looks like this is mostly module related stuff, which is absolutely useless
for most packagers.. I hope it's good for RHEL at least, but it seems to be
more of a nightmare there (for sysadmins, rather than packagers).
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