Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-09 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
So in the real world, there ARE interoperability problems that you just cannot argue away. What real users (will) use is NOT "just KDE Plasma". Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-09 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
cate application Firefox that bundles its own, completely different web engine. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1920298 . (The main argument has always been market share, which at 2% market share and steadily decreasing does not

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-08 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
he KDE Plasma maintainers to do anything, we just want to maintain 2 packages that conform to all Fedora guidelines in Fedora. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-08 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
n lock will be moot. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
ell, I'm getting bug > reports filed against elementary / Pantheon packages, and there's not > even a usable Pantheon session in Fedora yet!) Yeah. So, what advantages are there to this being in the main fedora collection of packages over just in a copr? I suppose with official packages y

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
h if they do not already support this on X11.) Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/e

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: > We are not banning nor deleting anything. We are not _supporting_ it. You (folks) deleted the subpackages and filed a FESCo ticket requesting that they be banned from (re)entering Fedora as separately-built packages maintained by others. Kevin Kof

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
gacy applications are maintained, but considered legacy for other reasons (such as depending on unmaintained libraries, or implementing an obsolete technology, etc.), but that is not the typical case. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list --

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
T distro-sync F39 before upgrading – if you want to do that, do it in step 2 with the temporary Copr enabled). Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Garry T. Williams wrote: > I hope my report can be resolved before I am forced to use Wayland. You will not be forced to use Wayland. Stay tuned. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe s

Re: FYI: AFL++ now builds a GCC plugin

2024-02-06 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
know). See the discussion about my Plasma X11 packages. If you cannot avoid the hard version dependency (it looks like, in the GCC plugin case, it might be possible), this is the same situation. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing l

Planned Outage - server updates - 2024-02-07 22:00 UTC

2024-02-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
There will be an outage starting at 2024-02-07 22:00UTC, which will last approximately 6 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2024-02-07 22:00UTC' Reason for outage: We will be applying updates and

Planned Outage - server updates - 2024-02-07 22:00 UTC

2024-02-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
There will be an outage starting at 2024-02-07 22:00UTC, which will last approximately 6 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2024-02-07 22:00UTC' Reason for outage: We will be applying updates and

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-04 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Tom Seewald wrote: > You were implying that Kevin was claiming to be an "unbiased observer" and > that him being banned from the KDE SIG means he has ulterior motives for > this beyond simply maintaining Plasma X11 packages. To make this clear, my motivation for maintaining

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-04 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
ome a formal SIG, it will have to be named something like "KDE X11 SIG" or "Plasma X11 SIG" or some combination thereof. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-04 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Steve Cossette wrote: >> There's also a secondary thing that I feel hasn't been discussed here >> though: I know work is being done right now to isolate the x11 >> components of plasma and add build-time options to strip out those >> compo

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-04 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
PS: Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > The atmosphere on #fedora-kde IRC radically changed on 2020-07-13. I also think that that date was not a coincidence, because shortly after that date, the KDE SIG went through with such changes as: * Wayland by default for Plasma, * a push for

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-04 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
s that they took offense at the *tone* of the criticism (something they are attempting here too: Neal Gompa wrote: > Frankly, I'm disappointed in your response as well as the tone of you > [= Sérgio] and Kevin. ) because that is a much more socially acceptable way to silence criticism than

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-03 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Then we will submit 10-15+ *-x11 packages for review. It can be done. PS: Users will only have to install plasma-workspace-x11. If there is some optional library that needs an ld.so.conf.d override or a plugin to support X11, it can be conditionally drag

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-03 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
packages in Fedora proper making use of that linker feature, e.g., it is (or at least used to be) used by CPU-optimized BLAS libraries. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-03 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Neal Gompa wrote: > It's extremely obvious that people want to use it. You replied to > someone who did and denigrated their opinion. Frankly, I'm > disappointed in your response as well as the tone of you and Kevin. I cannot really speak for Sérgio. I do think his choice

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
ng), because there is nothing to comaintain before that point and also nowhere I can fill in those comaintainership requests before the dist-git Pagure repository is created. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedor

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
he {kwin,plasma-workspace}-x11 packages (as long as they do not intend to abuse their access to retire the package without my agreement, of course). More helping hands = less work per person. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorap

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
to enjoy your "amazing" HDR etc. with no changes whatsoever. Nobody is taking that away from you. All I am asking, and willing to make happen, is to not take Plasma X11 away from us. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@li

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Peter Hutterer wrote: > Fedora still ships the previous release, server 1.20.x So should we not upgrade that to the latest upstream release (Xorg 21.0)? Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe s

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
d. > "force people" "hit snag" > > With this kind of attitude, don't be surprised when people describe Fedora > as "the beta test" for Red Hat. +1, kinda what I was about to say, except with s/beta/alpha/. :-) Kevin Kofler -- _

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
ven if and when KDE upstream drops their X11 support. Kinda like I have been doing for, e.g., Blogilo. Realistic would be until the release of Plasma 7, unless some Plasma 6.x introduces major changes that make it impractical. But I hope this is not going to be a concern for Fedo

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
sers than Wayland, great, but if not, I am afraid there is probably not much I can do about that. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
t would take an additional blunder for the package that gets accidentally installed to actually break something (except in the Obsoletes case if it accidentally obsoletes an essential package). Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedo

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
there. I am not surprised that your announcements were not taken seriously, because dropping X11 sounds so unreasonable to not just me that it just cannot be taken seriously. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fe

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
here are also more X11 features of this type that are not currently implemented in Wayland. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora C

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
not want to get into an Epoch war about that Obsoletes and I hope the KDE SIG does not want that either). Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fe

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
t work for everyone. But the separate packages as I submitted them for review are the next best solution. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fed

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
ync branches and build updates can probably do that with no extra human effort.) Though, if not, I can do that too, if only they tell me about the update and the side tag as soon as possible, at least before they hit that "push to stable&quo

Re: Re: Re: A reminder: you cannot just "revert" package version bumps

2024-02-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 02:51:54AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > kevin wrote: > > distro-sync is nice and all, but it's not a silver bullet. > > In cases of simple packages a downgrade may not break anything, but in > > cases where other things already built upon

Re: Re: A reminder: you cannot just "revert" package version bumps

2024-01-31 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
t be reverted. Actually, the downgrade masquerading as an "upgrade" (due to the Epoch) only makes it more likely that any issues related to the downgrade (such as the ones the other Kevin, Kevin Fenzi, pointed out) will catch the user by surprise. If the distro-sync (which should be the default way

Re: Re: A reminder: you cannot just "revert" package version bumps

2024-01-31 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
kevin wrote: > distro-sync is nice and all, but it's not a silver bullet. > In cases of simple packages a downgrade may not break anything, but in > cases where other things already built upon it, where the new one > changed conguration or interface, or even where the upgrade ch

[EPEL-devel] Re: Incompatible Upgrade Request - singularity-ce

2024-01-31 Thread kevin
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 06:40:19AM -0800, Troy Dawson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 6:37 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > This seems reasonable to me. > > > > I agree with Neal, this looks good to me. > Thank you for the nice explanation/write-up. Yeah, same he

Re: Unretire request idle and Go packages working through approval

2024-01-31 Thread kevin
will land soon and you will not need to wait on a manual process anymore. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-01-30 Thread kevin
hat the SIG is not unduly > burdened, and the threshold petition would > never need to be considered. Yeah, I agree. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Re: A reminder: you cannot just "revert" package version bumps

2024-01-30 Thread kevin
raded version ever made it into a > > Rawhide compose. > > This is the kind of rule that is a prime target for automation. Can we > have Fedora Rawhide gating validate that the NEVR doesn't go backwards, > and block bad builds from getting into the compose. Yeah, seems like i

Re: Re: A reminder: you cannot just "revert" package version bumps

2024-01-30 Thread kevin
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 01:19:18AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > yes rawhide user should use dnf distro-sync not dnf upgrade > > +1. Rawhide EVRs should be allowed to go backwards, that is an integral part > of being a development branch. d

Re: A reminder: you cannot just "revert" package version bumps

2024-01-29 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Sérgio Basto wrote: > yes rawhide user should use dnf distro-sync not dnf upgrade +1. Rawhide EVRs should be allowed to go backwards, that is an integral part of being a development branch. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- de

Re: Self Introduction: Kan-Ru Chen

2024-01-27 Thread kevin
g forward to contribute to Fedora especially > in the i18n area and beta testing. Welcome! You may be interested in the #i18n:fedoraproject.org and #quality:fedoraproject.org matrix channels if you haven't already seen them. :) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- _

Re: FAS issue (was Re: Another mass rebuild blocker: glibc qsort regression)

2024-01-23 Thread kevin
wildly unexpected ways), but so we can all learn from the > mistake. Absolutely. Things are not fully normal now, but everything should be up from the user perspective. We will be working to get the cluster back to a normal state in the next few days, then we can look at retrospective

Re: Re: Fedora 40 mass rebuild has begun

2024-01-21 Thread kevin
kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mass-rebuild/f40-failures.html> > > > > We should fix builds to rawhide , right ? or should we build in tag > f40-rebuild ? You can just fix in rawhide as normal. If you need to rebuild things that were built into f40-rebuild by the mass rebuild, thats f

Re: Re: Mass rebuild: git push --no-verify

2024-01-18 Thread kevin
mply skipped. I think it's better to not skip them and have them fail than ignore them. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: Re: Mass rebuild: git push --no-verify

2024-01-18 Thread kevin
should ever cause something that be caught by the hook, and if it did, it would be better for it to do the commit anyhow and cause a failed build. IMHO. So, I think we should run with --no-verify. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___

Re: Mass rebuild: git push --no-verify

2024-01-17 Thread kevin
s though. But of course if it was completely broken it would fail after that anyhow... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedo

Re: dnsmasq default configuration changed

2024-01-15 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
set up coexistence. 127.0.0.53 is unfortunately not an independent interface, it is still the lo interface. > On 14. 01. 24 1:57, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: >> On a server I administer for work, I have dnsmasq serving the DNS for an >> ocserv (OpenConnect) VPN, listening only on

Re: dnsmasq default configuration changed

2024-01-13 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
ering would not have worked exactly for the reason you describe above. But that server is not running Fedora anyway. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fed

Re: Removing deprecated %patch syntax from go-sig's packages

2024-01-09 Thread kevin
this... I assume you plan to get it all done before the mass rebuild starts? (2024-01-17) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Re: [heads-up] evolution-data-server libecal-2.0 soname version bump in rawhide

2024-01-08 Thread kevin
t; > Hi, > the leftover packages to be done, for which I do not have commit > rights, are: > >elementary-calendar >evolution-chime (which is part of pidgin-chime) >gnome-panel >phosh Phosh is done. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-06 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Aoife Moloney wrote: >> == Summary == >> The `/usr/sbin` directory becomes a symlink to `bin`, which means >> paths like `/usr/bin/foo` and `/usr/sbin/foo` point to the same place. >> `/bin` and `/sbin` are already symlinks to `/usr/

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-06 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
urse do not expect %{_bindir} and %{_sbindir} to be the same or symlinks to the same. (They are different macros for a reason.) (I wish I would not have to patch binaries at all, but the KDE SIG refuses to carry patches removing those broken checks from the KDE programs.)

Re: Re: Are package-owner mail addresses working?

2024-01-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
> > > $ git config sendemail.to > > cfitsio-ow...@fedoraproject.org > > > > > Please file a report with Fedora Infrastructure at > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue This is actually set in fedpkg (or perhaps rpkg?). So, best to fil

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Wifi MAC Randomization (System Wide)

2023-12-24 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
able-ID set to the SSID), or to plain "stable"? As explained in my other mail, "stable-ssid" is basically useless, whereas plain "stable" has the potential to break things (as Robert Nichols explained). Kevin Kofler -- __

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Wifi MAC Randomization (System Wide)

2023-12-24 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
ocking tracking also blocks filtering, and the other way round. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedor

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Wifi MAC Randomization (System Wide)

2023-12-23 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
rther uplink should not get your MAC address to begin with anyway (only your IP address). Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase Two (System-Wide)

2023-12-17 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
t use LogoFAIL to bypass Restricted Boot entirely without bothering with signatures at all? Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: Creation of new package repo failed, Invalid or expired token

2023-12-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
> cause of my personal issue, or other factors. Thanks in advance. > > [1] https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11829 > [2] https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/58752 Just to note, this was all taken care shortly after you opened the tickets. :) kevin signature.asc Descr

Re: Proven to be sickened

2023-12-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
to react to communications, just making the effort helps everyone know what happened and whats going on. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to d

Re: Fedora Review Service and setting the AutomationTriaged keyword

2023-12-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Thanks for working on this Jakub. I think it's quite useful. :) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Re: Should we retire the mailx package?

2023-12-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
I'm definitely in favor. I hit this broken step a while back myself. ;( Hopefully the current maintainers are on board with this? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Update on the Modern C initiative

2023-12-06 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
ly assuming that sizeof(ssize_t)==sizeof(jlong) (i.e., 8) everywhere. Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedo

Re: Proven to be sickened

2023-12-04 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
t just makes my work harder (or in practice, just wastes my time for the revert that I am inevitably going to do). Kevin Kofler -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: Update on the Modern C initiative

2023-12-04 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
causing bugs is much lower), as much I have to wonder about the others. Especially the incompatible pointer types sound more like nitpicking than actual bugs (though I guess strict aliasing can cause issues with those, but then I would expect to see -Wstrict-ali

Re: Synching user database from Fedora IPA to pagure

2023-11-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
or pagure.io groups. See: https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/toddlers/issue/177 Note that that needs a upstream pending pr to be merged, a new release cut and us to update to it to get the api endpoint. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- __

Re: Missing notifications

2023-11-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Also... if you meant the scm-commits mailing list, then yeah, that is broken currently. ;( https://github.com/fedora-infra/fmn/issues/1024 kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Missing notifications

2023-11-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
hat you want them in the new application: https://notifications.fedoraproject.org/ kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fe

Re: Inactive packages removed from packager group

2023-11-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
tainers should be the ones to do this... so as long as we have those... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedo

Re: Inactive packages removed from packager group

2023-11-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
one, since I semi-maintain it > upstream already. I'd like to comaintainer it, but I totally can't > find the right button in the UI ... Email the main admin to add you. ...snip... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing

Re: Inactive packages removed from packager group

2023-11-18 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > rpms/kde-plasma-ihatethecashew This is a Plasma 4 package and completely useless under Plasma 5 or 6. (There is not even a "cashew" to remove in current Plasma 5.) I am surprised this package even builds at all, we are probably shipping too much of th

Inactive packages removed from packager group

2023-11-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Hi all, Today, 2023-11-18, we have removed inactive packagers from the packager group. This is in accordance with the FESCo policy on inactive packagers: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_inactive_packagers/ If the removed user is 'main admin' for a package, this package

Inactive packages removed from packager group

2023-11-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Hi all, Today, 2023-11-18, we have removed inactive packagers from the packager group. This is in accordance with the FESCo policy on inactive packagers: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_inactive_packagers/ If the removed user is 'main admin' for a package, this package

Re: Rust bindings for Python (pyo3 versions <0.19, cpython) broken with Python 3.12

2023-11-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
rypt/pull-request/9 kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-U

Planned Outage - pagure.io network switch updates - 2023-11-17 13:00 UTC

2023-11-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Planned Outage - pagure.io network switch updates - 2023-11-17 13:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2023-11-17 13:00UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d

Planned Outage - pagure.io network switch updates - 2023-11-17 13:00 UTC

2023-11-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Planned Outage - pagure.io network switch updates - 2023-11-17 13:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2023-11-17 13:00UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
't provide > it. That makes sense, but the issue is the latter part, not the former. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
helps nobody. True, but the issue is that FESCo sees the bug in the claim and not in the failure to achieve it, which is where the real issue lies. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-15 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
; cannot comply with. (+6, 0, 0) (Son_Goku, 17:59:18) So Fedora has completely discarded any notion of backwards compatibility. Sad. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: SPDX Statistics - Kristallnacht edition

2023-11-15 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
t be used. Broken glass is just broken glass, not "crystal". And the term only (euphemistically) mentions the violence against things and neglects to mention the violence against people. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@list

Planned Outage - Server updates/Reboots - 2023-11-15 20:00 UTC

2023-11-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Planned Outage - Server updates/Reboots - 2023-11-15 20:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2023-11-15 20:00 UTC, which will last approximately 6 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-11-15

Planned Outage - Server updates/Reboots - 2023-11-15 20:00 UTC

2023-11-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Planned Outage - Server updates/Reboots - 2023-11-15 20:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2023-11-15 20:00 UTC, which will last approximately 6 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-11-15

Re: dnf conflict in rawhide Docker container in GitHub Action

2023-11-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
t, it's just the web page thats misleading. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Con

intent to retire: fedmsg-irc, old fmn, osbs

2023-11-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
. Please let us know if there's any uses for these services we aren't aware of before next wed. https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11504 is a tracking ticket for the osbs cluster retirement. Thanks! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Self Introduction: Jamie Chapman

2023-11-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Hey Jamie! Welcome. :) If you get a chance do drop by our matrix space and chime in with any questions or comments. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Didn't get an email about a new merge request on a package

2023-11-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
ct I am not sure what happened there. ;( Some kind of race condition? But that matches up exactly when the PR was created. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Automatic check for bodhi updates not to break RPM dependencies

2023-11-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
an be done? I also do not understand why the gating stuff that was recently added does not complain about this. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: DNF5: Checking signatures of packages installed out of a repository?

2023-11-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 11:05:33AM -0400, Christopher wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 7:50 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > FWIW, from what I can recall, yum used to check all packages, but this > > resulted in tons of people complaining because they did not want it to

Re: DNF5: Checking signatures of packages installed out of a repository?

2023-10-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
yum/dnf/dnf5 urls for the package(s) you want to install, it's not using a repo at all, it's downloading those packages and treating them as local packages. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 MariaDB MySQL repackaging (Self-Contained)

2023-10-27 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
in Fedora proper makes for a better user experience than just enabling the Copr for whatever version of MariaDB you want in the unlikely event the default is not good enough for you. We also do not ship multiple versions of, e.g., LibreOffice. Kevin Kofler __

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 MariaDB MySQL repackaging (Self-Contained)

2023-10-19 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
mariadb-10.5 && dnf upgrade (or distro-sync, but since it would be an "upgrade" at RPM level, distro-sync is not needed here), and to switch back to the default version, dnf copr disable @mariadb-sig/mariadb-10.5 && dnf distro-sync (to "downgrade" to the offic

Re: Is package (gnome-shell extension) split into legacy and current required?

2023-10-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
release, no need for compat packages. That assumes versions on the package(s) are such that users can upgrade going from one release to the next. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: Self Introduction: Pavol Zacik

2023-10-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
to the Botan C++ > cryptography library. Welcome Pavol! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 39 Final is NO-GO

2023-10-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
ng until right before the first RC is requested, but that doesn't really pin it down any more, as that will happen when all known blockers have been addressed, which could be anytime... We could add a note to any RC testing announcements? For that matter we could suggest a distro-sync with

Re: Occasional random Koji build failures only on ppc64le

2023-10-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Circling back here... I downgraded the hosts yesterday and they have been all checking in reliably as far as I can see. Are you still seeing any build issues? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel

Re: Intention to tighten RPM crypto-policy back

2023-10-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
it makes much sense to force changes to the epel7/epel8 keys now just to check some compatibility box on fedora installs. ;) See https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11703 kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@list

Re: Mock v5.0 released (and mock-core-configs v39)

2023-10-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 11:24:15PM +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On úterý 3. října 2023 21:48:24 CEST Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 10:30:45AM +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > > > Well, in what shape is our "layered image" build syst

Re: Occasional random Koji build failures only on ppc64le

2023-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
eeze I updated the virthosts those builders are on. Sadly, somehow the newer kernels cause those weird network hiccups. Builders stop checking in, or don't return when uploading as well. I moved one of them back to the previous kernel to confirm it was ok and it has been. I am downgradin

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