Am 22.02.2015 um 19:46 schrieb M. Edward (Ed) Borasky:
Yes, I would think:
a) all services should be disabled and their ports closed by default, and
b) the documentation should describe how to enable the service and
open the ports
and then comes the default firewall on F21 workstation with
Am 22.02.2015 um 18:17 schrieb Adam Williamson:
On Sat, 2015-02-21 at 22:21 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
would it make sense to provide these in some common package as
'snippets' that could be included into configuration files? Then we
could have something like:
Directory
Am 22.02.2015 um 18:45 schrieb Adam Williamson:
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 18:28 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 22.02.2015 um 18:17 schrieb Adam Williamson:
In fact, if we put the snippets in the Apache package or some
package which is tied to Apache versioning, we can drop all the
IfModule stuff
Am 22.02.2015 um 21:41 schrieb مصعب الزعبي:
Hi , I got a message from my friend a programmer.
And he asked me , Is Fedora have a backdoor !!!
He got a two domains without any control of him and without updates
enabled and controlled by NetworkManager , domains are :
vm3.fedora.ibiblio.org
Am 22.02.2015 um 21:59 schrieb مصعب الزعبي:
No it's a real problem .. What the information by 443 port that shared
by NetworkManager !!! to un-local servers .
the problem is that *nobody* knows what you are talking about
THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF BACKDOOR !!!
you first need to define the
Am 22.02.2015 um 22:14 schrieb Florian Weimer:
* Reindl Harald:
He got a two domains without any control of him makes no sense
Come on, Harald, please try to be a little bit more constructive.
Mosaab's question is pretty easy to understand, and his concerns
are shared by some Fedora
Am 22.02.2015 um 22:20 schrieb Florian Weimer:
* Reindl Harald:
sorry *but* He got a two domains without any control of him does not
make any sense to me, it still does not
The two host names he mentioned are used to host
wildcard.fedoraproject.org. His friend is concerned because he sees
Am 20.02.2015 um 17:59 schrieb Fulko Hew:
I'm not sure if this is the right list for the question, but...
not really, at least the subject is on-topic
I now have the time and opportunity to migrate my main dev machine
from Fedora 8 to something current, namely F21. But in the intervening
Am 20.02.2015 um 18:21 schrieb Peter Robinson:
I've never argumented against the goal that web browser or all network aware
services should be PIEs, after all, why would we (Ulrich Drepper and myself)
add the PIE support into the toolchain otherwise?
I'm just not convinced most of the
Am 20.02.2015 um 20:28 schrieb Peter Robinson:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
So how much performance impact is acceptable?
Well you've not documented any of the impact so how can we discuss
that? We have no idea if the impact is going to be 0.1% 1% or
Am 19.02.2015 um 20:15 schrieb Jakub Jelinek:
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 07:58:10PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2015 um 19:48 schrieb Till Maas:
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 07:07:45PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
Even on x86_64 it was quite a measurable slowdown last time I've benchmarked
Am 19.02.2015 um 19:48 schrieb Till Maas:
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 07:07:45PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
Even on x86_64 it was quite a measurable slowdown last time I've benchmarked
it, now in F22+ we might have smaller slowdown with the x86_64 copyreloc for
Which packages are there that do
Am 17.02.2015 um 17:54 schrieb Mathieu Bridon:
Le mardi 17 février 2015 à 17:39 +0100, Ralf Corsepius a écrit :
On 02/17/2015 05:18 PM, Petr Pisar wrote:
Why not to create a new repository with reduced policy as
Stephen proposed with the one-way dependency rule (between current
Fedora and
Am 16.02.2015 um 10:44 schrieb drago01:
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
I have upgraded 3 systems to a nonproduct F21 and I have installed F21
to a couple of others using the x86_64 Live Workstation image. They
all suffer from intermittent losses of bash history.
Am 13.02.2015 um 21:42 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah:
I'm not sure if things will be (much) worse than the current situation.
Maintainers already do maintain multiple versions of the same library,
and also the upgrade path from a Fedora release to the next should work.
My assumption was that the
Am 10.02.2015 um 14:38 schrieb Marek Skalický:
Matthew Miller píše v Út 10. 02. 2015 v 06:19 -0500:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:12:15PM +0100, Marek Skalický wrote:
does someone know what are Fedora Guidelines (or something similar)
saying about this bug
Am 09.02.2015 um 15:08 schrieb Neal Becker:
[nbecker@nbecker1 ~]$ sudo dnf remove kernel*3.18.3*
[sudo] password for nbecker:
No match for argument: kernel*3.18.3*
Error: No packages marked for removal.
[nbecker@nbecker1 ~]$ sudo dnf remove kernel*3.18.3-201.fc21
No match for argument:
Am 05.02.2015 um 13:30 schrieb Matthew Miller:
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 06:03:45PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
update, not your broader one. I am happy to defer to those who've
spent more time dealing with it than me - i.e. hughsie - when they say
that, no, it isn't really 'safe' to update
Am 05.02.2015 um 21:56 schrieb Tom Rivers:
While configuring a new Fedora 21 workstation yesterday evening, I ran
into something that I found interesting. I installed Spamassassin,
tried to start it, and got the following entry in the logs:
systemd: Failed at step EXEC spawning
Am 05.02.2015 um 22:05 schrieb Tom Rivers:
On 2/5/2015 15:58, Reindl Harald wrote:
why in the world does SA need portreserve?
To be honest, I'm not sure that SA is the package that needs it. It is
actually systemd that references it in the spamassassin.service file:
# cat /usr/lib/systemd
Am 02.02.2015 um 11:50 schrieb Miroslav Suchý:
On 02/01/2015 04:38 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
lsof | grep DEL | grep /usr will show you processes you may conisder to
restart (and not the needs-restarting command
was never relieable here)
dnf install dnf-plugin-tracer
http://miroslav.suchy.cz
Am 31.01.2015 um 22:57 schrieb Casey Jao:
Warning: long post ahead.
Are there any plans to let packages specify that they do not require a
total system reboot to be updated?
The other day, Gnome software prompted me to reboot just to update
google chrome. Given that nothing depends on chrome,
Am 30.01.2015 um 14:03 schrieb Casey Jao:
Currently dnf and yum have their own yumdb's, under /var/lib/dnf/yumdb
and /var/lib/yum/yumdb respectively. Among other things, these
databases record whether a package was explicitly installed by the user
or pulled in automatically as a dependency of
Am 27.01.2015 um 20:50 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia:
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Adam Williamson
adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 08:49 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
* KVM bridge configuration
Works fine in F21+, I'm using NM on both my main desktop/test box
Am 27.01.2015 um 21:18 schrieb Dan Williams:
On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 20:56 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
there is a usecase for NM, surely, but not for me and not for a lot of
other people working professional in serious setups and tend to
configure personal workstations left and right as much
Am 28.01.2015 um 01:23 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
On 01/27/2015 08:18 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
We hope that NM can be installed on most systems, and will be there when
required and useful, but will get out of the way when not required.
Well I can confirm that NM pretty much does exactly
Am 26.01.2015 um 13:55 schrieb Martin Stransky:
On 01/26/2015 01:48 PM, drago01 wrote:
The latest one is 11.2.202.440 ... which is supposed to have the fix.
Where have you got that? Official Adobe site [1] says the latest is
11.2.202.438 and flash download page [2] gives me the same. I see
Am 25.01.2015 um 17:09 schrieb poma:
On 25.01.2015 17:02, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
also bridge configuration should be possible, but I have not really
tried it with NM.
In NetworkManager it is already settled in F20, and furthermore works in
NetworkD.
Will they still appear someone who has
Am 25.01.2015 um 18:37 schrieb Amadeus W.M.:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 17:26:55 +0100, poma wrote:
On 25.01.2015 07:50, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
I'm trying to do the following:
1) add the smi2021 driver for EasyCap Somagic usb frame grabbers into the
kernel tree
2) compile the kernel with smi2021 as a
Am 23.01.2015 um 19:26 schrieb Dan Winship:
On 01/23/2015 10:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
on servers and static machines you don't need any dynamic network
configuration
which is why NM in F22 will have a configure-and-quit mode for such
machines
which is still no valid reason
Am 22.01.2015 um 18:44 schrieb poma:
Lukáš 'Allo 'Allo
I see that some people are trying to modernize Fedora.
But what about RHEL relictum - initscripts, particularly now that we have
NetworkManager/ModemManager and systemd-networkd,
when will this package fall off?
hopefully never until
Am 23.01.2015 um 12:44 schrieb poma:
On 23.01.2015 10:51, Martin Stransky wrote:
There's a live 0-day flash vulnerability which is not fixed yet [1][2].
If you use flash plugin I recommend you to enable the click-to-play mode
for it.
Are we covered with
$ rpm -q flash-plugin
Am 22.01.2015 um 17:59 schrieb drago01:
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 21.01.2015 um 23:55 schrieb Yanko Kaneti:
When did Fedora become the place which only welcomes mature software?
IMHO what you seem to aspire to is somewhat in conflict with the
release early
Am 22.01.2015 um 18:11 schrieb drago01:
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 22.01.2015 um 17:59 schrieb drago01:
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 21.01.2015 um 23:55 schrieb Yanko Kaneti:
When did Fedora become
Am 21.01.2015 um 23:55 schrieb Yanko Kaneti:
On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 12:26 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Igor Gnatenko
i.gnatenko.br...@gmail.com wrote:
+ gnome-calendar
btw gnome-2048 on review already
FWIW this one is not complete; maybe it will be ready
Am 20.01.2015 um 15:28 schrieb Stephen Gallagher:
On Tue, 2015-01-20 at 08:03 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com said:
The Fedora Server Product will provide a standard deployment mechanism for a
Linux Database Server (powered by the postgresql
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1184016
most, if not all of my systemd-units on a dozen of servers using
constructs like below to make the whole tree /var/lib readonly and the
needed subfolder RW which is now broken in Fedora 21 and kills all my setups
that is a *major
Am 21.01.2015 um 04:59 schrieb Sudhir Khanger:
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:39:56 AM Julien Enselme wrote:
For android studio, the Oracle JDK is more a recommendation. I made some
basic Android development today with Android studio running on the
OpenJDK and Fedora 21 and I experienced no
Am 19.01.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
Yes, but test coverage for those CPUs is already rather poor, so I
don't expect them to work anymore.
OK, thanks. Guess I'll have to switch my PIII and Athlon MP relics to
Am 19.01.2015 um 15:28 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann:
Would that make it impossible to run fedora on sse-only i686 CPUs?
Yes, but test coverage for those CPUs is already rather poor, so I don't
expect them to work anymore.
See other replies, people are running such machines.
Given x86_64 exists
Am 19.01.2015 um 13:17 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Florian Weimer fwei...@redhat.com
mailto:fwei...@redhat.com wrote:
I wrote a slightly broader proposal, also covering SSE2 (for i386),
and (since today) off_t and ino_t:
Am 19.01.2015 um 21:34 schrieb drago01:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 19.01.2015 um 15:28 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann:
Would that make it impossible to run fedora on sse-only i686 CPUs?
Yes, but test coverage for those CPUs is already rather
Am 18.01.2015 um 21:04 schrieb Carlos Morel-Riquelme:
Hi folks, I installed pitivi in my F21 and F22 , but the app don't have
the icon, obviously this isn't a but but i think that is important report
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora
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Am 18.01.2015 um 03:43 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
Reindl Harald wrote:
in fact DNSSEC is the prerequisite for
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS-based_Authentication_of_Named_Entities
which has the potential to replace the horrible need of CA signed
certificates for SSL which are in fact *completly
Am 16.01.2015 um 10:50 schrieb Björn Persson:
Kevin Kofler wrote:
I'm with you, debugging spam needs to go away, GUI applications have
no business writing anything at all to the console, ever.
Except when they have really serious errors.
I once had an X problem that prevented Openoffice
Am 15.01.2015 um 23:23 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
So it's kWarning, not kDebug and it can't be ignored by using kdebugdialog
settings. There are two options - fix the underlying issue or change
kWarning to kDebug - it just depends on how important it is and it seem
as Harald
Am 16.01.2015 um 01:45 schrieb Neal Becker:
I personally know nothing of the subject, but found this article
than you should get some understanding *before* refer to random articles
on the web where the only truth fact is the expensive deployment which
does not bother you on the enduser
may not suffer from the same issues as
the regular one. It has happened to me on occasion.
Perhaps over the years I've grown accustomed to the gibberish in my
terminal and started considering it normal, instead of buggy, as Reindl
Harald points out
the real problem with that crap messages
Am 15.01.2015 um 00:36 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
the real problem with that crap messages is that if you are about
writing a longer command line and the in background mode started GUI
app decides to blow out it's helpful messages they appear unasked in
the middle of your input and so
Am 15.01.2015 um 00:13 schrieb Reindl Harald:
Am 14.01.2015 um 23:36 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user
were suppressed, it would
Am 14.01.2015 um 23:36 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user
were suppressed, it would be very difficult to troubleshoot such a
Am 14.01.2015 um 18:26 schrieb Jochen Schmitt:
It very important, that your domain provides any MX records because
this is absolutly require to send mails to your domain
bullshit - fix your mailserver
there is no need for a MX record
read the SMTP RFC
the only reason when you need a MX is
Am 13.01.2015 um 20:56 schrieb William B:
Unbound creates more flakiness than it solves. Unbound caches no
answer as a negative cache entry. If your wireless blips for an
instant, that's it, result vanishes
simply not true
there is a *huge* difference between a NXDOMAIN response and not
Am 13.01.2015 um 10:31 schrieb Karel Zak:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:37:25AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
any chance to see util-linux v2.26 in F21?
Ah sorry, I missed this your question...
no problem
Well, I'm going to push v2.26-rc1 to rawhide this week, and maybe
(depends
Am 12.01.2015 um 14:26 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 12 January 2015 at 12:48, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
There's Workstation, which is actually looking at including KDE as well.
It is? Why?
why not?
not everybody likes GNOME for several reasons and it would be *so much*
Am 09.01.2015 um 16:56 schrieb John Reiser:
On 01/09/2015 04:05 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
*but* since *mobile phones* and other operating systems in the
meantime are full PIE and it improves security how can someone justify
the reason performance on a desktop/server distribution with much more
Am 09.01.2015 um 12:54 schrieb Jakub Jelinek:
On i?86 it isn't around 10%, but more like 10%-30%.
i doubt that it's always 30% - real workloads matter not worst cases and
what are the 100% - if 100% is below a second 30% don't matter - there
are millions of tasks where even 50% would not
Am 09.01.2015 um 15:14 schrieb Paul Wouters:
If your public key authentication fails, it still prompts you for a
password but even if you have set a password it will reject it. This is
to prevent leaking configuration information (eg to avoid telling
attackers whether or not password based
Am 09.01.2015 um 15:32 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
My systems are set up that way, you can't just ssh in from
anywhere, you
can only ssh in from machines that have your private key. If
you try
to log
Am 09.01.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
you achieve nothing than cluttered logs from continued dictionary
attacks with such a setup even if it would be possible and that has
the security implication burry interesting
Am 08.01.2015 um 21:34 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen:
In most of the cases, we end up requiring someone to go to the system
physically and doing some initial work if we run into any of 0-3. Of
course that works great if you have a physical server. We virtualize
most of our servers which ends up
Am 09.01.2015 um 00:16 schrieb Dennis Gilmore:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:25:36 +0100
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 08.01.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Harden all packages with
position-independent code =
Harden all packages with position
Am 09.01.2015 um 00:35 schrieb drago01:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:25:36 +0100
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 08.01.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Harden all packages
Am 08.01.2015 um 23:54 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen:
On 8 January 2015 at 15:19, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.01.2015 um 21:34 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen:
In most of the cases, we end up requiring someone to go to the
system
physically and doing some initial work
Am 08.01.2015 um 15:18 schrieb Chris Adams:
Once upon a time, Jan Staněk jsta...@redhat.com said:
The topic of BerkeleyDB v6 in Fedora was already discussed at this list
[1], and it turned out that peaceful cooperation of multiple libdb
versions in system is very problematic. As some packages
Am 08.01.2015 um 16:10 schrieb David Cantrell:
On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 09:32:04AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote:
Why does v6 having an incompatible license mean we should get rid of v5?
BerkeleyDB is widely used because it meets a
Am 08.01.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Chris Adams:
Once upon a time, Laurent Rineau laurent.rineau__fed...@normalesup.org said:
Le Thursday 08 January 2015 08:42:45 Paul Wouters a écrit :
If you want to fight that, you need to set PasswordAuthentication no and
insist that people start using ssh
Am 08.01.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Harden all packages with position-independent
code =
Harden all packages with position-independent code to limit the damage from
certain security vulnerabilities.
So this proposal is for _all_ architectures,
Am 07.01.2015 um 23:04 schrieb Till Maas:
On Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 08:30:03AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
We just went over something very much like this for x86_64 packages
with FESCo ticket 1113:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1113
Could you perhaps review that and elaborate on the
Am 05.01.2015 um 06:18 schrieb Chris Murphy:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
There's already an application that does this, it's GNOME
Packages or use yum/dnf.
If this was the answer, there
Am 05.01.2015 um 17:09 schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
but you can't and won't use the GUI the same way on remote machines over
slow lines
Those slow lines are disappearing, and will be pretty rare by the time we get
any UI design finished and polished
sorry, but that is nonsense
my home
Am 05.01.2015 um 17:48 schrieb Alec Leamas:
I don't envy how the political climate on your continent has affected
this for you. However, connecting to the top of this sub-thread, for the
Fedora Workstation usecase this is not necessarily that bad - a
developer works normally with local tools,
Am 05.01.2015 um 19:36 schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
While I think you are right in some cases like cashier, isn't this
discussion really about the Fedora Workstation?! Since for this the
target user is a developer, can we just agree that in this case the user
needs both CLI and GUI apps (although
Am 04.01.2015 um 19:02 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah:
/*Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu*/ wrote on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 16:58:32
-0600:
Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
...
Suggestion: Please add a single configuration file to configure common
package manager options
I think you answered your own question
Am 04.01.2015 um 19:13 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah:
/*Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net*/ wrote on Sun, 04 Jan 2015
19:11:01 +0100:
Am 04.01.2015 um 19:02 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah:
/*Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu*/ wrote on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 16:58:32
-0600:
Hedayat Vatankhah wrote
Am 03.01.2015 um 23:58 schrieb Rex Dieter:
Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
Hi!
Summary: Try to prevent a package from being updated/installed from
repositories regardless of the package management tool you use. As it
seems, then only way you can do this is to exclude it from the
repositories
Am 02.01.2015 um 21:05 schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
Here, GUIs _as a category_ (not necessarily the GUIs we are currently
providing) should always be better than CLIs _as a category_ simply because the
GUI can in the worst case just copy the CLI layout and behavior so it will not
be worse than a
Am 30.12.2014 um 13:07 schrieb Ralf Corsepius:
Is GS intended to be a one size fits all solution for both novice
users and the workstation target developer user?
I don't know if it's aimed at being a one size fits all solution. To
me, it's a matter of fact, that in general, there can never
Am 29.12.2014 um 04:28 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen:
It is your age, and there has been nothing gradual about it.. Look the
world has moved a lot in the last 30 years, and we have gone past the
point where current developers are humouring us old folk for making
jokes about IDE-operators
no,
Am 29.12.2014 um 10:50 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 29 December 2014 at 03:28, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
we either are going to have to get out of the way of the
steamroller or get rolled over it.
...and the people trying to keep up are getting eggs thrown at them. I
know
Am 29.12.2014 um 19:39 schrieb Chris Murphy:
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Alexander Ploumistos
alex.ploumis...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-12-29 19:25 GMT+02:00 Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com:
From 1984 to 2001 there was a rather popular platform that didn't have
a CLI. It wasn't
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Am 29.12.2014 um 22:01 schrieb Chris Murphy:
The real developers are those who are actively getting things done,
and are not defined by what interface they're using.
yes, and that's why the real developers need to get aware of *all*
capabilities of their operating system and not got hidden
Am 28.12.2014 um 13:57 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 27 December 2014 at 23:17, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
having choices and options is the reason why people switch to Linux,
http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
you can't dictate as developer the reason why users are making
Am 28.12.2014 um 18:39 schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Alexander Ploumistos
How are user queries correlated to the package suggestions in the
dash? I do not always get what I would expect, e.g. when I type IDE, I
get Anjuta, Gnote and Rosegarden, with 3gp I get
Am 28.12.2014 um 22:13 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
On 28 December 2014 at 07:57, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 27 December 2014 at 23:17, Reindl Harald wrote:
having choices and options is the reason why people switch to Linux,
http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
Oh please, no need for provocation
Am 29.12.2014 um 01:19 schrieb Peter Hutterer:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 09:42:07PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote:
On 28/12/14 18:05, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote:
Possibly. But isn't there quite a difference between the novice
Am 27.12.2014 um 23:26 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 26 December 2014 at 20:32, Alexander Ploumistos
alex.ploumis...@gmail.com wrote:
why not offer packages from every DE and metapackages for other environments?
I don't see how this addresses the multiple Calculator application
problem I
Am 24.12.2014 um 21:20 schrieb Matěj Cepl:
On 2014-12-24, 11:10 GMT, drago01 wrote:
I think you are a smart guy so you know better as well than ask
somebody else to work for you on your pet project.
He already apologized ... no need to dig out the old mails ... let the
thread die.
Yes, my
Am 23.12.2014 um 20:03 schrieb Samuel Sieb:
On 12/23/2014 10:24 AM, John Florian wrote:
Following the example set by other packages, I’ve traditionally used
/usr/local/share/ruby/site_ruby/facter/MY_PACKAGE, but what if you have
a fact that isn’t written in Ruby? I’m also aware of
Am 22.12.2014 um 10:10 schrieb drago01:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote:
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
Uhm no. You seem to be wanting a fight over something, and I have no
mood to engage. I hope you have a more pleasant holidays than what
your tone
Am 22.12.2014 um 11:49 schrieb Florian Weimer:
On 12/21/2014 05:28 PM, Björn Persson wrote:
Alternatively, cut out the packet filter and have GlibC ask the user
whether the call to bind or connect shall be allowed to succeed (or
automatically allow or deny the call if so configured). This has
Am 22.12.2014 um 20:57 schrieb Gerald B. Cox:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
No they do not have all the information needed. What they know is
that some other distribution ships it and that it works in a device
using a custom kernel. How does it work
Am 20.12.2014 um 17:33 schrieb john.tiger:
I understand Fedora's position on Chromium BUT not having a 3rd party
available for F21 is not acceptable
for whom?
ie. this morning Firefox is not connecting to the internet (yet
thunderbird, dnf, etc is ... - I'm seeing a kernel problem warning
Am 20.12.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
On Sat, 2014-12-20 at 17:51 +0100, Mattia Verga wrote:
Maybe I put it too simple, but instead of opening all high ports by
default what about having firewall rules declared in RPMs for
packages
that need to have ports opened?
Because we need
Am 20.12.2014 um 23:32 schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
On Sat, 2014-12-20 at 22:24 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
you completly ignored the following paragraph, my guess is because
ask
the user is considered harmful by GNOME upstream
Well I read it, but yes, I do think that ask the user is harmful
Am 18.12.2014 um 16:43 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
On the other hand, if you install something and it starts listening and
you didn’t know that,
If you install something from Fedora and it does that, then it's a bug in
the
application.
No. It's you solving your problem with gnome-user-share
Am 17.12.2014 um 10:17 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 16 December 2014 at 23:40, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
feels like new faster and larger hardware is for 90% used that developers
don't need to consider ressource constraints because i don#t see that much
more functionality
Am 16.12.2014 um 22:29 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 16 December 2014 at 20:09, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
[root@localhost cache]# du -sh *
94M dnf
446M PackageKit
4.0K yum
I think you're overstating the amount of metadata for PK for two reasons:
no
1. This is for my
Am 15.12.2014 um 15:32 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 15 December 2014 at 14:08, Felix Schwarz fschw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Well I think the whole idea of wifi === unmetered is flawed.
It's as good a metric as we've got. When you set up a personal bridge
between UMTS/wifi, or even
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