Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022, at 8:11 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > > BTW I wanted to give an update here specifically regarding the "dnf > image" bit - as of late, I've been working on a fresh new "bootc" CLI, > see https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree-rs-ext/pull/412 and >

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Jonathan Lebon wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 12:43 PM Colin Walters wrote: >> - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think >> without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example, >> just pushing the

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-21 Thread Jonathan Lebon
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 12:43 PM Colin Walters wrote: > - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think > without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example, > just pushing the container images does little unless we invest in them as a >

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 09:18:19AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > Would it make sense to have a Fedora Objective (at the Council level) around > > this? > > Probably? > > I would say actually that this proposal is not even the end. I cut out a > part due to objections/concerns, but I

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 09:00:40AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: >> Two things: >> >> - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think >> without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example,

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 09:00:40AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > Two things: > > - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think > without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example, > just pushing the container images does little unless we

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > There are a lot of things going on in this proposal: > > - shipping editions as container images in quay https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11047 > - migrating existing users to the new container image based updates (No tracker yet) > -

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-24 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 10/24/22 23:45, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > On 10/13/22 15:08, Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> An update will be shipped that will cause existing systems tracking >> the production ostree branches to be switched to the corresponding >> container image. Concretely for example, a system running >>

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-24 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 10/13/22 15:08, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-15 Thread Daniel Walsh
On 10/14/22 18:09, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable I know there's a lot going on here, so I put together https://github.com/cgwalters/dnfimage-config as a demonstration system to show

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-14 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable I know there's a lot going on here, so I put together https://github.com/cgwalters/dnfimage-config as a demonstration system to show this all works today. (Though there's a

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-13 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 3:08 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Contingency Plan == > * Contingency mechanism: Continue to ship things the way we ship them today > * Contingency deadline: Dunno > * Blocks release? No I suggest the branch day (2023-02-07) as the contingency deadline here. -- Ben

F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-13 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering

F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-13 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering