On Tuesday, January 29, 2013, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you play with
them 5 minutes?
Do you remember the GNOME 1.x = 2.x transition? Similarly
On 01/27/2013 03:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com
This feature proposes that Fedora switch the default desktop interface from
Gnome 3 to
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you play with
them 5 minutes?
Do you remember the GNOME 1.x = 2.x
On Monday, January 28, 2013, Matthias Clasen wrote:
- Original Message -
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
I submit the proposition that it is easier for a user doing a new
Fedora
install to start with a traditional desktop, and switch to the Gnome
Shell if
they
Hi Dan,
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:52:03 -0800
Dan Mashal wrote:
Lets all listen to Miami because she did a great job with anaconda 18
UI design, knows more than Linus, Alan Cox and is absolutely right on
everything!
Now, as much as I strongly disagree with the UI changes anaconda made
in
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 04:13:34AM -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
Let's see how lightweight, bug free and usable it is. Why don't you just
merge the 3 projects instead of wasting your time? We could all work
together.
MATE developers actually have GNOME git accounts now.
There could be different
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
On 01/27/2013 03:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/**wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_**Default_Desktophttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you play with
them 5 minutes?
Do you remember the GNOME 1.x = 2.x
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:27:42 -0500
Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Mon 28 Jan 2013 02:17:29 PM EST, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Going away isn't the correct phrase. The UI of Fallback Mode is
going to transition to a new feature called Classic Mode. It's an
official feature of Gnome 3.8.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:52:03AM -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013, M�ir�n Duffy wrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you play
with
them 5 minutes?
Do you remember the
On 01/29/2013 01:25 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
On 01/27/2013 03:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/__wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as___Default_Desktop
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013, Olav Vitters wrote:
MATE developers actually have GNOME git accounts now.
I know that.
GNOME classic is not the same as a fallback mode.
I am skeptical.
MATE did not have that much development, nor that many developers if you
compare it to the amount of
On 01/29/2013 12:53 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you
play with
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 04:36:22AM -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013, Olav Vitters wrote:
MATE developers actually have GNOME git accounts now.
I know that.
GNOME classic is not the same as a fallback mode.
I am skeptical.
That is not what I meant. Fallback was
On 01/29/2013 08:25 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
I'm sure QA, releng, docs, etc will go with what the community decides.
Why would they?
They are community too, they don't have to follow on what other
decide, they are free to go on working on the QA and docs of GNOME if
they prefer, just like you
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Mathieu Bridon
boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 01/29/2013 08:25 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
I'm sure QA, releng, docs, etc will go with what the community decides.
Why would they?
They are community too, they don't have to follow on what other decide,
they
Dan Mashal píše v Út 29. 01. 2013 v 04:25 -0800:
I'll tell you what, last time I checked #1 spin is KDE.
1. because the Desktop spin is not included in the counter.
2. I doubt those numbers are accurate. Only 54 downloads of Xfce spin
for this release? I hope you understand it's completely out
2013/1/29 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl
[...]
I've seen the changes that various GNOME developers as well as Red Hat
employees have made. I've seen GNOME developers trying to understand
issues and make changes. I've even tried to summarize this in various
release notes.
Now I'm not sure who
On 01/27/2013 03:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com
This feature proposes that Fedora switch the default desktop interface from
Gnome 3 to
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Mathieu Bridon
boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 01/29/2013 08:25 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
I'm sure QA, releng, docs, etc will go with what the community decides.
Why would they?
Funny...I suggest that we can submit a changing desktop feature per release.
Maybe this is the best solution.
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:56:17 +0800
Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com wrote:
Funny...I suggest that we can submit a changing desktop feature per
release.
Maybe this is the best solution.
No, it's not a Screensaver.
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Dne 29.1.2013 14:56, Christopher Meng napsal(a):
Funny...I suggest that we can submit a changing desktop feature per
release.
Maybe this is the best solution.
It might be nice extension to different wallpaper in every release ;)
Vít
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On 01/29/2013 01:38 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 01/27/2013 03:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com
This feature proposes that Fedora switch the
2013/1/29 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com:
Dne 29.1.2013 14:56, Christopher Meng napsal(a):
Funny...I suggest that we can submit a changing desktop feature per
release.
Maybe this is the best solution.
It might be nice extension to different wallpaper in every release ;)
How about
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/1/29 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com:
Dne 29.1.2013 14:56, Christopher Meng napsal(a):
Funny...I suggest that we can submit a changing desktop feature per
release.
Maybe this is the best solution.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/1/29 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com:
Dne 29.1.2013 14:56, Christopher Meng napsal(a):
Funny...I suggest that we can submit a changing desktop feature per
release.
Maybe this is the best solution.
It might
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 05:17:20AM -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote:
Dan Mashal píše v Út 29. 01. 2013 v 04:25 -0800:
I'll tell you what, last time I checked #1 spin is KDE.
1. because the Desktop spin is not included in
- Original Message -
From: Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:13:34 PM
Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
On Monday, January 28, 2013
F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
On Monday, January 28, 2013, Matthias Clasen wrote:
- Original Message -
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
I submit the proposition that it is easier for a user doing a new
Fedora
install to start
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From: Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:58:11 PM
Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:47 AM
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:10:03 -0500,
Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote:
Nor I wanted it to be - Fight fire with fire! People that start personal
attacks on fedora-devel list should be BANNED.
People should not fight people behaving badly be emulating their behavior. It
is
- Original Message -
From: Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to
To: Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com
Cc: Development discussions related to Fedora
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:08:29 PM
Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
, January 29, 2013
6:08:29 PM Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default
Desktop
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:10:03 -0500,
Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote:
Nor I wanted it to be - Fight fire with fire! People that start
personal attacks on fedora-devel
On Tue, 29.01.13 04:13, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote:
There could be different flavors of Gnome. Now I know that we are both
biased here, however what it really feels like here is REDHAT
employees want Gnome 3 and they are giving a bunch of bullshit excuses on
You know, Red Hat
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:13 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 01/29/2013 01:38 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 01/27/2013 03:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s):
On 01/28/2013 08:47 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I think switching the desktop that has been our default for over 10
years and 18 releases requires just a bit more research and reason
than that. ~m
I don't disagree with the more research and reason part, but the
current default desktop has only
On 01/29/2013 05:25 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
Lets have a poll. A very public one.
On the main website. Not somebody's blog. And let's let the users
decide what they want.
I'll tell you what, last time I checked #1 spin is KDE.
I like that idea. It's ultimately up to FESCo to decide, but a
On 01/28/2013 09:27 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
The gnome desktop certainly isn't perfect but I see a lot more users
using it than most of the rest of the other options.
That's selection bias. It's the default, so of course it's going to get
more users. That doesn't necessarily mean that they
On 01/29/2013 12:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com
Just some input on a few things
On 01/28/2013 09:56 AM, inode0 wrote:
After four releases it isn't bad to step back and take a look at how
things are working out. I hope we can do that with an eye to where we
want to go in the future rather than looking to the past.
I couldn't have said it better. I'm much more concerned
Dear Dan,
Le mardi 29 janvier 2013 à 04:13 -0800, Dan Mashal a écrit :
Now I know that we are both biased here, however what it really feels
like here is REDHAT
If I may interrupt you, that's written in 2 words, Red Hat. Not wanting
to deviate from your discourse with my rambling about the
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 23:52 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote:
And then we wonder why MATE and Cinnamon got the most press coverage
in Fedora 18 and why there has been a huge user spike in the last 30
days. It hasn't been because of systemd, Gnome 3.6, and Anaconda 18.
You are on serious drugs
Reading the topic about Cinnamon as Default Desktop.
For my view, Cinnamon is nothing more than a heavily tweaked Gnome Shell
based on reactive feeling. It only duplicated the effort already covered
by Gnome development.
Issue like nautilus removal of some functionality could be resolved by
How about doing a Cinnamon Spin at least for F19?
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On 01/29/2013 04:59 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
I don't disagree with the more research and reason part, but the
current default desktop has only been our default for four releases,
F15 through F18. I don't recall any serious research and reason
having been involved in the switch that occurred when
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:27 AM, drago01 wrote:
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Sandro Mani wrote:
Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that the
download button points to something similar to the current More options
page, maybe with a small description for
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
The Gnome 3 interface is substantially different that the traditional desktop
interfaces on both Linux and Windows.
At least for Windows 8, neither Cinnamon is close to its desktop
interface.
While it is good that there is research
On 01/27/2013 02:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
We should be moving away from having a default rather then switching it.
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On Monday, January 28, 2013, Nikos Roussos wrote:
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
The Gnome 3 interface is substantially different that the traditional
desktop
interfaces on both Linux and Windows.
At least for Windows 8, neither Cinnamon is close to its desktop
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 00:10 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013, Nikos Roussos wrote:
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
The Gnome 3 interface is substantially different that the
traditional desktop
interfaces on
Hi,
2013/1/28 Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org
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On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 00:10 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013, Nikos Roussos wrote:
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
The Gnome 3 interface is substantially different that the
- Original Message -
From: Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:04:29 AM
Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
On 01/27/2013 02:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon
Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that the
download button points to something similar to the current More options
page, maybe with a small description for each desktop like easy to use /
feature rich and customizable / based on the traditional desktop / etc
and
2013/1/28 Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com
Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that the
download button points to something similar to the current More options
page, maybe with a small description for each desktop like easy to use /
feature rich and customizable
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:14:22 +0100
Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote:
Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way
that the download button points to something similar to the current
More options page, maybe with a small description for each
desktop like easy to use
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:22:16 +0100, Nikos Roussos wrote:
True. Or others might consider it productive. Same goes for all Desktop
environments. That's why I said that I see no real argument here for
changing our default desktop.
Could we make a web poll for preferred desktop and make the top
On 01/28/2013 11:01 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:22:16 +0100, Nikos Roussos wrote:
True. Or others might consider it productive. Same goes for all Desktop
environments. That's why I said that I see no real argument here for
changing our default desktop.
Could we make a web
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Jan Kratochvil
jan.kratoch...@redhat.comwrote:
Could we make a web poll for preferred desktop and make the top one the
Fedora
default? (default = link Download now! on http://fedoraproject.org )
If it is Gnome 3 Shell then fine but AFAIK it won't be Gnome
Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 09:56 +0100, Michał Piotrowski a écrit :
Maybe it should be something like defaultless desktop. Just install
Gnome and display desktop ballot screen Yes, we know that Gnome 3
sucks for 85% of population. Here you got an alternatives.
For one, if there is 85% of a
2013/1/28 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org:
Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 09:56 +0100, Michał Piotrowski a écrit :
Maybe it should be something like defaultless desktop. Just install
Gnome and display desktop ballot screen Yes, we know that Gnome 3
sucks for 85% of population. Here you got an
On 01/28/13 10:07, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
- Original Message -
On 01/27/2013 02:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
We should be moving away from having a default rather then
- Original Message -
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
I submit the proposition that it is easier for a user doing a new
Fedora
install to start with a traditional desktop, and switch to the Gnome
Shell if
they prefer that, than to start with Gnome Shell and switch to a
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote:
Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that the
download button points to something similar to the current More options
page, maybe with a small description for each desktop like easy to use /
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
- Original Message -
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
I submit the proposition that it is easier for a user doing a new
Fedora
install to start with a traditional desktop, and switch to the Gnome
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you play with
them 5 minutes?
Do you remember the GNOME 1.x = 2.x transition? Similarly to how there
are forks of GNOME now to 'keep the GNOME 2 candle burning,' there were
forks of GNOME 1.x to
- Original Message -
Some facts:
- Cinnamon started out as 'using GNOME components', but it is not a
full fork of mutter, gnome-shell and nautilus, at least, and
bug-fixes are not going either way...
Did you mean ... but it is now a full fork... ?
Yes, thats what I meant.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you play with
them 5 minutes?
Do you remember the GNOME 1.x = 2.x transition? Similarly to how there
are forks of
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you play with
them 5 minutes?
Do you remember the GNOME 1.x = 2.x transition? Similarly to how there
are forks of
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you play with
them 5 minutes?
Do you remember the GNOME 1.x = 2.x transition? Similarly to how there
are forks of
On Jan 28, 2013 9:56 AM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote:
(snip)
I'm happy to see renewed discussion about the future of the Fedora
desktop. After four releases it isn't bad to step back and take a look
at how things are working out. I hope we can do that with an eye to
where we want to go in
On 01/28/2013 11:56 AM, inode0 wrote:
What concerns me isn't that Linus and Alan don't like it.
To be fair Linus (more quietly) went back to GNOME 3 after his initial
loud complaints. He is still using it since he just posted that he was
to G+ yesterday.
~m
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On 01/28/2013 05:56 PM, inode0 wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics#Total_repository_connections
I'm wondering if there was an effort to provide package usage statistics
for Fedora. Having such data might be valuable when there's a
disagreement of what is popular/widely used.
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:26:14 -0500, you wrote:
On 01/28/2013 11:56 AM, inode0 wrote:
What concerns me isn't that Linus and Alan don't like it.
To be fair Linus (more quietly) went back to GNOME 3 after his initial
loud complaints. He is still using it since he just posted that he was
to G+
Hey Pete,
Pete Travis li...@petetravis.com wrote:
I'm happy to see renewed discussion about the future of the Fedora
desktop. After four releases it isn't bad to step back and take a look
at how things are working out. I hope we can do that with an eye to
where we want to go in the future
On 01/28/2013 06:49 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:26:14 -0500, you wrote:
On 01/28/2013 11:56 AM, inode0 wrote:
What concerns me isn't that Linus and Alan don't like it.
To be fair Linus (more quietly) went back to GNOME 3 after his initial
loud complaints. He is still
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 07:49:59PM +0100, Maros Zatko wrote:
I've used gnome 2.x, when 3.x came out I had no other option
than to (finally) switch to tiling since my beloved DE was gone
and not going back.
If you're the sort of person that wants a tiling window manager, then I think
it's fair
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 19:49:59 +0100,
Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote:
I've used gnome 2.x, when 3.x came out I had no other option
than to (finally) switch to tiling since my beloved DE was gone
and not going back.
Other options I've tried (XFCE was some of them) had either
some child
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Forced fallback mode still works through F18. I find it provides me
what I want from gnome2. It will be almost certainly going away in F19
(but hasn't yet in rawhide), but there is talk of providing something
similar via a gnome-shell extension.
Going away isn't the
On Mon 28 Jan 2013 02:17:29 PM EST, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Going away isn't the correct phrase. The UI of Fallback Mode is going
to transition to a new feature called Classic Mode. It's an official
feature of Gnome 3.8.
On 28 January 2013 12:27, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Mon 28 Jan 2013 02:17:29 PM EST, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Going away isn't the correct phrase. The UI of Fallback Mode is going
to transition to a new feature called Classic Mode. It's an official
feature of Gnome 3.8.
On 01/28/2013 07:27 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Mon 28 Jan 2013 02:17:29 PM EST, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Going away isn't the correct phrase. The UI of Fallback Mode is going
to transition to a new feature called Classic Mode. It's an official
feature of Gnome 3.8.
Hi
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:
Won't the new GNOME 3 classic mode effectively render Cinnamon, MATE,
and friends obsolete?
gnome-classic-session is in Rawhide and I expect it will satisfy some users
but not at all. In particular, there are
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 06:45:10PM +0100, Richard Marko wrote:
On 01/28/2013 05:56 PM, inode0 wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics#Total_repository_connections
I'm wondering if there was an effort to provide package usage statistics
for Fedora. Having such data might be
On 01/28/2013 02:57 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
We could just import Debian popcon. It's free software after all ...
http://popcon.debian.org/
You can't just import it. openSUSE has a port that uses RPM but I don't
know whats the status of that
Rahul
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Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 18:45 +0100, Richard Marko a écrit :
On 01/28/2013 05:56 PM, inode0 wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics#Total_repository_connections
I'm wondering if there was an effort to provide package usage statistics
for Fedora. Having such data might be
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 02:27:42PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Mon 28 Jan 2013 02:17:29 PM EST, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Going away isn't the correct phrase. The UI of Fallback Mode is going
to transition to a new feature called Classic Mode. It's an official
feature of Gnome 3.8.
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com
Just some input on a few things that have been raised in this thread:
1. What
Hi,
My entirely personal take on this is that I don't really care that much,
but I don't see a convincing case for the change. My personal opinion is
that a lot of the 'GNOME sucks and everyone's switching to Cinnamon /
MATE!' stuff in the press is inaccurate; whenever I see actual people
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com
This feature proposes that Fedora switch the default desktop interface from
Gnome 3 to Cinnamon. Cinnamon provides a desktop interface that
I don't think Cinnamon as default desktop. Fedora always was of GNOME by
default Desktop. However, I have to choose, I would choose KDE as default
desktop.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com
This feature proposes that Fedora switch the default desktop
- Original Message -
I don't think Cinnamon as default desktop. Fedora always was of GNOME
by default Desktop. However, I have to choose, I would choose KDE as
default desktop.
From the times Kevin proposed Plasma as default desktop - and the rest
of KDE SIG did not support it -
I love GNOME 3 and detest KDE 4. I've tried MATE and Cinnamon on both
Linux Mint and Fedora and don't really see the point of either of them
as long as GNOME 3 offers fallback mode.
When you come right down to it, nearly all Linux desktops can be
easily customized to provide a Windows-like
Well, maybe the result is nobody will support openbox as default.
Your words make me think why users hate Linux desktops... :)
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On Sunday, January 27, 2013, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
I love GNOME 3 and detest KDE 4. I've tried MATE and Cinnamon on both
Linux Mint and Fedora and don't really see the point of either of them
as long as GNOME 3 offers fallback mode.
When you come right down to it, nearly all Linux
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com
This feature proposes that Fedora switch the default desktop interface from
Gnome 3 to Cinnamon. Cinnamon provides a desktop interface that
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