Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-25 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 8:52 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:24 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > FWIW, I think the upstream renaming of ansible and ansible-core is something > > that we just have to accept. But we have some flexibility in how this is > >

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-20 Thread David Moreau-Simard
>> The Change proposal is not very clear in this regard… Please correct me > if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that there's a giant SRPM which > produces a giant 'ansible' binary package. In addition there's a second > small SRPM which produces the 'ansible-core' binary package. > > Right:

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 06:24:21AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > FWIW, I think the upstream renaming of ansible and ansible-core is something > that we just have to accept. But we have some flexibility in how this is > packaged in Fedora. ...snip... > > The Change proposal is not

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:24 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > FWIW, I think the upstream renaming of ansible and ansible-core is something > that we just have to accept. But we have some flexibility in how this is > packaged in Fedora. > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 09:34:34PM -, David

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-20 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
FWIW, I think the upstream renaming of ansible and ansible-core is something that we just have to accept. But we have some flexibility in how this is packaged in Fedora. On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 09:34:34PM -, David Moreau-Simard wrote: [> Richard Meggins wrote:] > > * Produce multiple RPM

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-19 Thread Richard Megginson
On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 3:36 PM David Moreau-Simard wrote: > (replying from hyperkitty as I'm not subscribed to fedora-devel, hopefully > this works) > > > How about this: > > > > * Have a single ansible dist git repo with a single spec file > > * The source would be

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-19 Thread David Moreau-Simard
(replying from hyperkitty as I'm not subscribed to fedora-devel, hopefully this works) > How about this: > > * Have a single ansible dist git repo with a single spec file > * The source would be https://pypi.org/project/ansible/ There couldn't be a single source because 'ansible' and

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-19 Thread Richard Megginson
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:39 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:22 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 08:51:46PM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I have a couple comments/questions about this change. > > > > > > How

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:22 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 08:51:46PM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have a couple comments/questions about this change. > > > > How will this effect EPEL? Is the plan to keep Ansible 2.9 there for > > now? > >

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 08:51:46PM -0500, Maxwell G via devel wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have a couple comments/questions about this change. > > How will this effect EPEL? Is the plan to keep Ansible 2.9 there for > now? For now yes, but 2.9 will go EOL at the end of the year (last I

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Maxwell G via devel
On Fri, 2021-10-15 at 16:31 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ansible5 > > == Summary == > > The ansible project has re-organized how they release and distribute > ansible. This change moves Fedora to be in sync with those changes > and > retires the old 'ansible

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Maxwell G via devel
Hi Nico, I understand your frustration about the Ansible reorganization, and I agree that they could have documented it better, but I think that you are missing the context surrounding this decision. Oct 16, 2021 4:46:43 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia : > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 3:03 PM Gordon Messmer >

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Maxwell G via devel
Hi, On Sat, 2021-10-16 at 15:33 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:02:38AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > it could have made good sense, and still would, for the "ansible" > > package to be what is now being colloquially referred to as > > "ansible-core", but for

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:02:38AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > it could have made good sense, and still would, for the "ansible" > package to be what is now being colloquially referred to as > "ansible-core", but for which the published upstream git repo is still >

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 05:45:47PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > They *can* physically, but doing both together would get very silly. > I'd meant "do one or the other". The current model of "install > ansible, get a few Megabytes of material you actually use that is > almost entirely in

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 3:03 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 10/15/21 16:29, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > I would publish ansible-core as just that, with a "Provides: ansible > > %{version{-%{release}" and even "Obsoletes: ansible >= %{version}". > ... > > The "ansible" package could be a > >

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/15/21 16:29, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: I would publish ansible-core as just that, with a "Provides: ansible %{version{-%{release}" and even "Obsoletes: ansible >= %{version}". ... The "ansible" package could be a meta package with "Requires: ansible-core ansible_collections" to avoid the

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Richard Megginson
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 8:04 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:39 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 07:44:12PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:29 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:39 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 07:44:12PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:29 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 07:44:12PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:29 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ansible5 > > > > > > == Summary == > > > > > > The ansible

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:29 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ansible5 > > > > == Summary == > > > > The ansible project has re-organized how they release and distribute > > ansible. This change moves

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ansible5 > > == Summary == > > The ansible project has re-organized how they release and distribute > ansible. This change moves Fedora to be in sync with those changes and > retires the old 'ansible

Re: F37 Change: Ansible 5 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-10-15 Thread Ben Cotton
The subject is wrong. This Change proposal is for Fedora Linux *36*. Whoops! -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an