Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 4:02 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: ... > Note, in terms of software compatibility with newer CPU baseline, > this has already been widely tested given that RHEL-8 built with > the z13 baseline and RHEL-9 built with z14 baseline. > I do agree though that this feels like the

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-22 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 10:39:55PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 4:56 PM Dan Horák wrote: > > > > On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:48:02 +0200 > > Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > On 15. 07. 22 23:48, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > == Summary == > > > > Move the minimal architecture

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-22 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 9:50 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > The current minimum at zEC12 is > targeting hardware that has been already obsoleted by the vendor. As I understand it, while zEC12 is EOL (you can no longer purchase it), it is not (yet) EOS, so existing systems can still obtain service from

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-21 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Fabio Valentini wrote: > I'd argue that this should've been submitted as a System-Wide Change. > If I understand correctly, this change would affect every package that > is built on s390x? > As such, it would've been way too late for Fedora 37, as it should > also have been ready before the mass

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-21 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 4:56 PM Dan Horák wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:48:02 +0200 > Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > On 15. 07. 22 23:48, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > == Summary == > > > Move the minimal architecture level for IBM Z hardware (the s390x > > > architecture) to z13 to benefit from the

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-20 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:48:02 +0200 Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 15. 07. 22 23:48, Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Summary == > > Move the minimal architecture level for IBM Z hardware (the s390x > > architecture) to z13 to benefit from the new features and better > > performance in the newer CPU. > > I

Re: F37 proposal: z13 as the Baseline for IBM Z Hardware (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-07-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 15. 07. 22 23:48, Ben Cotton wrote: == Summary == Move the minimal architecture level for IBM Z hardware (the s390x architecture) to z13 to benefit from the new features and better performance in the newer CPU. I suppose, considering the mass rebuild is today, that this change only makes