Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022, at 8:11 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > > BTW I wanted to give an update here specifically regarding the "dnf > image" bit - as of late, I've been working on a fresh new "bootc" CLI, > see https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree-rs-ext/pull/412 and >

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Jonathan Lebon wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 12:43 PM Colin Walters wrote: >> - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think >> without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example, >> just pushing the

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-21 Thread Jonathan Lebon
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 12:43 PM Colin Walters wrote: > - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think > without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example, > just pushing the container images does little unless we invest in them as a >

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 09:18:19AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > Would it make sense to have a Fedora Objective (at the Council level) around > > this? > > Probably? > > I would say actually that this proposal is not even the end. I cut out a > part due to objections/concerns, but I

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 09:00:40AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: >> Two things: >> >> - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think >> without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example,

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 09:00:40AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > Two things: > > - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think > without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example, > just pushing the container images does little unless we

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > There are a lot of things going on in this proposal: > > - shipping editions as container images in quay https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11047 > - migrating existing users to the new container image based updates (No tracker yet) > -

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-24 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 10/24/22 23:45, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > On 10/13/22 15:08, Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> An update will be shipped that will cause existing systems tracking >> the production ostree branches to be switched to the corresponding >> container image. Concretely for example, a system running >>

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-24 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 10/13/22 15:08, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-15 Thread Daniel Walsh
On 10/14/22 18:09, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable I know there's a lot going on here, so I put together https://github.com/cgwalters/dnfimage-config as a demonstration system to show

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-14 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable I know there's a lot going on here, so I put together https://github.com/cgwalters/dnfimage-config as a demonstration system to show this all works today. (Though there's a

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-13 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 3:08 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Contingency Plan == > * Contingency mechanism: Continue to ship things the way we ship them today > * Contingency deadline: Dunno > * Blocks release? No I suggest the branch day (2023-02-07) as the contingency deadline here. -- Ben