Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 11:15 AM William Moreno wrote: > Just my 2 cents > > A minimal fedora iso with @base and @core packages can the tool for a > advanced user to build it own fedora experience on top a minimal install. > > If I want just lightdm and i3, openbox,

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread William Moreno
Just my 2 cents A minimal fedora iso with @base and @core packages can the tool for a advanced user to build it own fedora experience on top a minimal install. If I want just lightdm and i3, openbox, awesome etc a minimal installable fedora iso than do not requiere internet access at install

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 11:31 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > El lun, 20-02-2017 a las 08:10 -0800, Adam Williamson escribió: > > On Sun, 2017-02-19 at 23:45 +, Personal (open) wrote: > > > DVD IS ALSO in Workstation and is routinely given out at events.  > > > > That's the live image. When we

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Fa Be
> On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 04:47 +, Fa Be wrote: > > It does not, no. Why? Do you know how Debian can do it and what is differences between CentOS and Debian in the field of default software? I can guess some: SELinux, Installer ___ devel mailing

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Fa Be
Allright everybody, thanks for your response, I became convinced that there is no need to Minimal CD of Fedoa. I understand that if a system is so old that does not have USB port, Fedora in not siutable for it, and must try CentOS or something lighter and LEGACY!, and 1.3GB for DVD is not too

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 04:47 +, Fa Be wrote: > First of all I must say I assume that the Minimal CD of CentOS > provides the GNOME Desktop like Debian #1 CD It does not, no. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2017-02-19 at 23:45 +, Personal (open) wrote: > DVD IS ALSO in Workstation and is routinely given out at events. That's the live image. When we say 'DVD' we don't just mean 'any ISO written to a DVD', it has a specific meaning for Fedora (and RH) images: it's an installer image

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Personal (open)
Replies inline On 20.02.2017 04:47, Fa Be wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:29:37AM -, Fa Be wrote: But then you need to >> add more stuff later, right? Isn't the network install + downloading >> specifically what you want a better option anyway? > > First of all I must say I

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 03:50:33PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:29:37AM -, Fa Be wrote: > > It will be very beneficial for people if the Fedora project provides > > the Minimal CD images of Fedora. It can attract more users to Fedora > > and is very useful for

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Samuel Rakitničan
> And build your own kernel and compile other applications from source? > Wouldn't that fragment the system? That might lead to dependency issues! > CentOS is only good enough if he doesn't want the latest and greatest of > everything! Or if he runs on old hardware. > Almost all is available for

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Fa Be
> Le 2017-02-20 05:47, Fa Be a écrit : > > Have you tried to use Fedora Cloud Base images? > https://alt.fedoraproject.org/cloud/ > It's about 128Mo > > You may convert qcow2 image with: > * sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm > * qemu-img convert test.qcow2 -O raw disk.img > > Here is the howto: >

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Utkarsh Anand
And build your own kernel and compile other applications from source? Wouldn't that fragment the system? That might lead to dependency issues! CentOS is only good enough if he doesn't want the latest and greatest of everything! Or if he runs on old hardware. On Feb 20, 2017 17:21, "Samuel

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Martin Kolman
On Sun, 2017-02-19 at 18:08 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:29:37AM -, Fa Be wrote: > > > It will be very beneficial for people if the Fedora project > > > provides > > > the

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
Le 2017-02-20 05:47, Fa Be a écrit : 1. It is huge for people of developing and un-developed countries. 2. It need to a DVD disc and DVD ROM for install via Optical Disc Drive (ODD). 3. It is a traffic wasting option, because all the software inside it is not necessarily used, like Libre

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-20 Thread Samuel Rakitničan
Quite frankly, I don't think Fedora is suitable for people with low bandwidth, simply because of its nature of updating policy. Even when using proxy with squid cache for packages, packages updates constantly and cache becomes obsolete very quickly. CentOS is much better choice.

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On So, 2017-02-19 at 16:30 +, Fa Be wrote: > Excuse me, I mean the network traffic. I have a internet service with > only 4GB per month, and I must use it carefully due to various needs. > Minimal CD is the excellent option for people like me, Net Install is > not good enough, because it need

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Fa Be
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:29:37AM -, Fa Be wrote: > > But then you need to add more stuff later, right? Isn't the network > install + downloading specifically what you want a better option > anyway? First of all I must say I assume that the Minimal CD of CentOS provides the GNOME Desktop

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Personal (open)
On 19.02.2017 16:50, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Dom, 2017-02-19 at 11:29 +, Fa Be wrote: > >> Hello, CentOS and Debian provides installation images in four options, but >> fedora provides two options: == All is for AMD64 == >> -- Net install: -- *

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Personal (open)
Replies below. On 19.02.2017 15:36, Radka Janekova wrote: >> I think a netinstall would be what you're looking for Radka, but I don't >> know from where you can download it. > > Me - not looking for anything - merely providing resources to "the other guy" > :P > > Best regards, >

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:29:37AM -, Fa Be wrote: >> It will be very beneficial for people if the Fedora project provides >> the Minimal CD images of Fedora. It can attract more users to Fedora >> and is very

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:29:37AM -, Fa Be wrote: > It will be very beneficial for people if the Fedora project provides > the Minimal CD images of Fedora. It can attract more users to Fedora > and is very useful for people who have the internt with > low-bandwidth. Currently I use Debian due

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2017-02-19 at 14:03 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > There's the network installer which is fairly minimal > > http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/25/Everything/x86_64/iso/ It's not the same thing. The 'minimal' image for CentOS (and RHEL? Not sure if RHEL ships it) is

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Dom, 2017-02-19 at 11:29 +, Fa Be wrote: > Hello, CentOS and Debian provides installation images in four > options, but fedora provides two options: > > == > All is for AMD64 > == > -- > Net install: > -- > * CentOS v7 (1611) = 377M > * Debian  v8.7  

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Fa Be
Excuse me, I mean the network traffic. I have a internet service with only 4GB per month, and I must use it carefully due to various needs. Minimal CD is the excellent option for people like me, Net Install is not good enough, because it need to internet and huge data for every install, but

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Radka Janekova
> I think a netinstall would be what you're looking for Radka, but I don't know from where you can download it. Me - not looking for anything - merely providing resources to "the other guy" :P Best regards, Radka -- *Radka Janeková* *radka.ja...@redhat.com

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Sylvia
Hello everyone, Well...  some Latin American countries have really bad and unstable connection so the smaller an ISO is the better for them.I think a netinstall would be what you're looking for Radka, but I don't know from where you can download it. Cheers, Sylvia On Sun, 2017-02-19 at 13:15

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Radka Janekova wrote: > Hi, > > Fedora has to offer these: > Workstation - https://getfedora.org/en/workstation > Server - https://getfedora.org/en/server > Cloud - https://getfedora.org/en/cloud > Atomic -

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Utkarsh Anand
>Do you mean like data limit? I doubt that there is anyone with too low speed to not download 1GB overnight these days... That used to be the case in India a few months ago, thanks to the pathetic 3G service and super slow broadband. Now, with 4G, things are getting better. On 19 February 2017 at

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Radka Janekova
Hi, Fedora has to offer these: Workstation - https://getfedora.org/en/workstation Server - https://getfedora.org/en/server Cloud - https://getfedora.org/en/cloud Atomic - https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/ Spins - https://spins.fedoraproject.org Labs - https://labs.fedoraproject.org ARM -