Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-30 Thread Dan Čermák
Felix Schwarz writes: > > - package testing >Manually checking updates-testing is too tedious and usually I don't want >to install everything in updates-testing right away. But there are some >packages which I like to get as fast as possible/which I can test easily. > >- So I

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 01:42:04AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Fabio Valentini wrote: > > I'm not really sure what you want to say here. There's a pretty strict > > policy about what changes provenpackagers are "allowed" to make to > > "foreign" packages, and it doesn't include pushing minor

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-30 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
On November 30, 2019 11:46:46 AM GMT+01:00, Felix Schwarz wrote: > >Am 30.11.19 um 07:27 schrieb Chris Adams: >> I think the problem is that unmaintained packages are still >> unmaintained; drive-by changes by provenpackagers are not actual >> maintenance, because that's not a scalable

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-30 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 30.11.19 um 07:27 schrieb Chris Adams: > I think the problem is that unmaintained packages are still > unmaintained; drive-by changes by provenpackagers are not actual > maintenance, because that's not a scalable organization (expecting > provenpackagers to do all maintenance on random

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-30 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 30.11.19 um 01:42 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Fabio Valentini wrote: >> I'm not really sure what you want to say here. There's a pretty strict >> policy about what changes provenpackagers are "allowed" to make to >> "foreign" packages, and it doesn't include pushing minor improvements. > > Well,

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-29 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said: > Well, in practice, a provenpackager can usually get away with just pushing > stuff as long as nobody complains, and in particular with just pushing > pretty much anything to effectively unmaintained packages. :-) And I don't > really see a problem with

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Fabio Valentini wrote: > I'm not really sure what you want to say here. There's a pretty strict > policy about what changes provenpackagers are "allowed" to make to > "foreign" packages, and it doesn't include pushing minor improvements. Well, in practice, a provenpackager can usually get away

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le 2019-11-29 11:39, Felix Schwarz a écrit : Am 29.11.19 um 11:18 schrieb Miro Hrončok: My effort is to raise the awareness about he failure. Despite my large effort, I cannot possibly fix all the build failures in Fedora. I just wanted to mention that I appreciate your efforts. I think the

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-29 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:40 AM Felix Schwarz wrote: Hi Felix! > Am 29.11.19 um 11:18 schrieb Miro Hrončok: > > My effort is to raise the awareness about he failure. Despite my large > > effort, > > I cannot possibly fix all the build failures in Fedora. > > I just wanted to mention that I

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-29 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 29.11.19 um 11:18 schrieb Miro Hrončok: > My effort is to raise the awareness about he failure. Despite my large effort, > I cannot possibly fix all the build failures in Fedora. I just wanted to mention that I appreciate your efforts. I think the "fallout" from retired packages may be a

Re: do not remove arpack package from Fedora

2019-11-29 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 29. 11. 19 2:53, Conrad Sand wrote: Hi Miro, Please _do not_ remove arpack and arpack-devel. Sure, please rebuilt it. Orion has started to work on it in https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/arpack/pull-request/1 A lot of other packages depend on that. At least 49 according to the