Re: Is this (broken keyboard layouts) a Fedora 14 Blocker bug?!

2010-10-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le samedi 02 octobre 2010 à 01:52 +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah a écrit :

 In brief, this bug will cause some keyboard layouts to be broken in F14, 
 which IMHO should not go in Fedora 14 Final.
 I wonder if it can be qualified as a blocker bug.

 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638244
 [2] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30548
 [3] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30549

I suppose

[4] is the same
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617959

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Re: F14 libgdl 2.31.x broken

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:44:05 -0700, Jim wrote:

 Any application that uses libgdl on F14 segfaults on startup.

Any? That would mean it would have been easy to test whether the update
works at all, but either it has been marked stable without any testing
or at a time when it worked:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgdl-2.31.3-1.fc14

 Quoting from an upstream bug report filed against Anjuta for the same
 issue I'm seeing on F14
 
 Anyway, gdl 2.31.x is broken and gnome-2-32 will ship gdl 2.30.x.
 
 Actually the gdl 2.31.x was superseeded with gdl 2.90.x which will ship
 with GNOME 3.0 and uses gtk+-3.0 but won't work with anjuta yet as we
 don't use gtk+-3.0.
 
 So please use gdl 2.30.x for now.
 
 
 I filed a Fedora bug report over two weeks ago, but have had no response
 from the Fedora maintainer for libgdl. If someone else has the time, can
 we please get this issue fixed.
 
 Upstream Anjuta bug report I found about the same issue.
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627463
 
 Fedora bug I filed against libgdl.
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635333

There's a package related RFE in bugzilla which is unanswered since June.
The package is assigned to only one person:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/libgdl

If a downgrade (with an Epoch bump) is the only way forward, it would
still be good to have the current packager comment on that. Or somebody
who is familiar enough with libgdl and would also show interest in 
joining Fedora's group of packagers in order to help with libgdl and
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Re: Is this (broken keyboard layouts) a Fedora 14 Blocker bug?!

2010-10-02 Thread पराग़
Hi,
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Hedayat Vatankhah heda...@grad.com wrote:
  Hi,
 I've tried testing Fedora 14 Beta (RC3, but updated), and soon I come
 across this bug[1]. I could discover the initial cause and propose a fix
 (which, after reporting to freedesktop bugzilla, I found that is already
 fixed in xkbconfig git (but still should be pushed to F14)). Then, I
 came across another bug (which is detailed in the end of [1], and is
 followed at [2] and [3]) which will affect a number of keyboard layouts
 in F14.
 In brief, this bug will cause some keyboard layouts to be broken in F14,
 which IMHO should not go in Fedora 14 Final.
 I wonder if it can be qualified as a blocker bug.

 Thanks,
 Hedayat

 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638244
 [2] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30548
 [3] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30549
 -

 I think xkeyboard-config-2.0 has already got some(or all the
reported) bugs fixed. I too got some problems in 1.9 build and
reported upstream [1]. I am too waiting for 2.0 to be built in F14.
Its already built for F15 and working fine. I have sent a mail to
xkeyboard-config package owner to build it soon in F14 so that we can
have this new build go through bodhi process and reach to stable(GA)
repository.

Parag.

[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30233
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Re: ssh agent issue

2010-10-02 Thread Panu Matilainen


On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Mike McLean wrote:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626209
 Reported against F13, but I've encountered it in F14 Beta.

 Seems like more folks ought to be impacted by this bug that seem to
 be, so I wonder what is going on here. Do less folks use ssh-add that
 I imagine, or is some factor limiting this bug?

I saw this issue a couple of days ago, logs saying stuff like:

Sep 30 17:15:00 turre gnome-session[8602]: WARNING: Application 
'gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop' failed to register before timeout
Sep 30 17:15:00 turre gnome-session[8602]: WARNING: Application 
'gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop' failed to register before timeout
Sep 30 17:15:00 turre gnome-session[8602]: WARNING: Application 
'gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop' failed to register before timeout
Sep 30 17:15:00 turre gnome-session[8602]: WARNING: Application 
'gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop' failed to register before timeout

Then an update involving various 2.32 versions of gnome packages and a 
reboot later the problem disappeared, so I just shrugged it off. I seem to 
recall some components getting updated to 2.32 in an earlier update 
(when things broke) so /maybe/ it was some gnome 2.31 vs 2.32 
component mismatch. Dunno.

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Command not found misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones

F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command
or a command is not found, it prints Command not found.  then pauses
for some time, then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of
error[1].

How do I permanently disable this behaviour?

Rich.

[1] I think it was a yum or PackageKit error.  However I don't get
that error any longer, just a long pause instead.

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Re: Firewall settings unworkable

2010-10-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 02:17:49AM +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
[...]

I asked Dan Berrange to join this thread since he's most knowledgable
about the exact problem and requirements from the libvirt side.

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Re: ssh agent issue

2010-10-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 01:04:40PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Mike McLean mikem@gmail.com wrote:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626209
  Reported against F13, but I've encountered it in F14 Beta.
 
  Seems like more folks ought to be impacted by this bug that seem to
  be, so I wonder what is going on here. Do less folks use ssh-add that
  I imagine, or is some factor limiting this bug?
 
 I'm not seeing this on my F13 systems and I use ssh all the time.
 First I've heard of the problem.
 I've commented on the bug report. It looks like a gnome keyring daemon
 initilization problem..but not one I'm experiencing and I use ssh in a
 terminal every day with agent functionality just fine.

Possibly a dupe of:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638637

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Re: Command not found misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:51:31 +0100, Richard wrote:

 
 F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command
 or a command is not found, it prints Command not found.  then pauses
 for some time, then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of
 error[1].
 
 How do I permanently disable this behaviour?
 
 Rich.
 
 [1] I think it was a yum or PackageKit error.  However I don't get
 that error any longer, just a long pause instead.

It's the PackageKit-command-not-found package.
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Re: Command not found misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:51:31 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command
 or a command is not found, it prints Command not found.  then pauses
 for some time, then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of
 error[1].
 
 How do I permanently disable this behaviour?

Remove PackageKit-command-not-found. 

It's not new in F-14. It's been the default since F-12:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PackageKitCommandNotFound

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Re: Command not found misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Richard Hughes
On 2 October 2010 09:51, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
 ..., then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of
 error[1].

Yes, it's fixed upstream, apologies. There's a new release on Monday
which will be pushed to F14.

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Re: Getting more info about updates on headless server

2010-10-02 Thread Richard Fearn
This:

  yum install yum-security

or possibly this:

 ...there is also a changelog plugin/command

is what I'm after. I'm going to have a look at those. Thanks James!

(Thanks to Przemek and Seth, too - but I want information about all
currently-available updates, not just a particular one.)

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Re: Is this (broken keyboard layouts) a Fedora 14 Blocker bug?!

2010-10-02 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah

 Hi,

/*Parag N(पराग़) panem...@gmail.com*/ wrote on 10/02/2010 11:59:03 AM 
+0350:

Hi,
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Hedayat Vatankhahheda...@grad.com  wrote:

�Hi,
I've tried testing Fedora 14 Beta (RC3, but updated), and soon I come
across this bug[1]. I could discover the initial cause and propose a fix
(which, after reporting to freedesktop bugzilla, I found that is already
fixed in xkbconfig git (but still should be pushed to F14)). Then, I
came across another bug (which is detailed in the end of [1], and is
followed at [2] and [3]) which will affect a number of keyboard layouts
in F14.
In brief, this bug will cause some keyboard layouts to be broken in F14,
which IMHO should not go in Fedora 14 Final.
I wonder if it can be qualified as a blocker bug.

Thanks,
Hedayat

[1]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638244
[2]https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30548
[3]https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30549
-

  I think xkeyboard-config-2.0 has already got some(or all the
reported) bugs fixed. I too got some problems in 1.9 build and
reported upstream [1]. I am too waiting for 2.0 to be built in F14.
Its already built for F15 and working fine. I have sent a mail to
xkeyboard-config package owner to build it soon in F14 so that we can
have this new build go through bodhi process and reach to stable(GA)
repository.

Parag.

[1]https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30233
Thanks for the notice. I've noticed this bug yesterday but I'm not sure 
if this is the same problem. If you can test 2.0 release, would you 
please try pressing d key after enabling the ir layout to see if it 
prints any characters? (This key is defined using unicode hex characters 
rather than corresponding character name. But notice that this has been 
changed in git yesterday, so git source will work. But in 2.0, it is 
defined using character's unicode hex code).


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Re: Is this (broken keyboard layouts) a Fedora 14 Blocker bug?!

2010-10-02 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah



/*Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net*/ wrote on 10/02/2010 
10:12:25 AM +0350:

Le samedi 02 octobre 2010 à 01:52 +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah a écrit :


In brief, this bug will cause some keyboard layouts to be broken in F14,
which IMHO should not go in Fedora 14 Final.
I wonder if it can be qualified as a blocker bug.
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638244
[2] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30548
[3] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30549

I suppose

[4] is the same
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617959
Maybe. But in my case, no characters are emitted at all in those cases. 
I've tried some other layouts and in my tests, any characters defined 
using its unicode hex code has stopped working. It is even not shown in 
the gnome's layout preview.


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Re: Command not found misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 11:40:50AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:51:31 +0100, Richard wrote:
 
  
  F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command
  or a command is not found, it prints Command not found.  then pauses
  for some time, then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of
  error[1].
  
  How do I permanently disable this behaviour?
  
  Rich.
  
  [1] I think it was a yum or PackageKit error.  However I don't get
  that error any longer, just a long pause instead.
 
 It's the PackageKit-command-not-found package.

Thanks - removed it.

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No response from festival-speechtools maintainer since 2009-6-24

2010-10-02 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
  Hi,
There has been no response from the maintainer since 2009-06-24 as is 
clear in [1]. Also, the package has not been updated since then. I 
wonder what should I do now (?)

Thanks,
Hedayat

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507966
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Re: No response from festival-speechtools maintainer since 2009-6-24

2010-10-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/10/2 Hedayat Vatankhah heda...@grad.com:
  Hi,
 There has been no response from the maintainer since 2009-06-24 as is
 clear in [1]. Also, the package has not been updated since then. I
 wonder what should I do now (?)

 Thanks,
 Hedayat

 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507966
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rawhide report: 20101002 changes

2010-10-02 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Oct  2 08:15:42 UTC 2010

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Re: F14 libgdl 2.31.x broken

2010-10-02 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 10:12 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:44:05 -0700, Jim wrote:
 
  Any application that uses libgdl on F14 segfaults on startup.
 
 Any? That would mean it would have been easy to test whether the update
 works at all, but either it has been marked stable without any testing
 or at a time when it worked:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgdl-2.31.3-1.fc14

Yes, any application that uses libgdl segfaults with the same error on
my F14 system. This is not limited to software from the F14 repo, but
also self compiled applications that worked fine previously on F13. The
above version also has the same problem.

 
 There's a package related RFE in bugzilla which is unanswered since June.
 The package is assigned to only one person:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/libgdl
 
 If a downgrade (with an Epoch bump) is the only way forward, it would
 still be good to have the current packager comment on that. Or somebody
 who is familiar enough with libgdl and would also show interest in 
 joining Fedora's group of packagers in order to help with libgdl and
 related packages.

A downgrade for F14 to 2.30.x, however rawhide(F15) probably needs to
move to 2.90.x. Which is the GTK3 branch of libgdl.

Anjuta is broken on F14. I don't know if any other apps in the F14 repo
use libgdl. I'm not familiar with the internal workings of libgdl,
however I use libgdl for a couple of my own applications. I think I can
tell whether or not the problem is my own application.

The upstream bug report I referenced before includes a response from the
Anjuta/libgdl developer, Anyway, gdl 2.31.x is broken and gnome-2-32
will ship gdl 2.30.x.. I'm inclined to trust the upstream developer if
he says his app is broken.


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LibreOffice

2010-10-02 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi,

Given the fun which looks to be happening over OOo due to Oracle, are
there any plans to drop OOo and move over to LibreOffice (which looks to
be at version 3.2.999 - pretty much the same as OOo currently is at).
The full release version is penned in for Christmas (or there abouts).

I have no problems helping package this behemoth!

TTFN

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F-14 Branched report: 20101002 changes

2010-10-02 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Sat Oct  2 13:15:18 UTC 2010

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Re: rawhide report: 20101002 changes - Broken deps - libmemcached

2010-10-02 Thread Remi Collet
Le 02/10/2010 14:53, Rawhide Report a écrit :

 Broken deps for x86_64
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   gearmand-0.13-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libmemcached.so.5()(64bit)
   opensips-memcached-1.6.3-2.fc15.x86_64 requires 
 libmemcached.so.5()(64bit)
   php-pecl-memcached-1.0.2-1.fc14.x86_64 requires 
 libmemcached.so.5()(64bit)

 libmemcached-0.44-2.fc15
 
 * Sat Oct 02 2010 Remi Colletfed...@famillecollet.com  - 0.44-2
 - enable SASL support

 * Fri Oct 01 2010 Remi Colletfed...@famillecollet.com  - 0.44-1
 - update to 0.44
 - add soname version in %file to detect change


I still have issue with with version, so please don't rebuild against 
0.44-2 as I will push ASAP a new build (waiting for upstream feedbacks)

http://lists.libmemcached.org/pipermail/libmemcached-discuss/2010-October/002207.html

http://lists.libmemcached.org/pipermail/libmemcached-discuss/2010-October/002208.html

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Re: F14 libgdl 2.31.x broken

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 07:08:56 -0700, Jim wrote:

  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgdl-2.31.3-1.fc14

 Anjuta is broken on F14. I don't know if any other apps in the F14 repo
 use libgdl.

$ repoquery --whatrequires 'libgdl-1.so.3'
anjuta-1:2.31.90.0-1.fc14.i686
gnome-python2-gdl-0:2.25.3-23.fc14.i686
gtranslator-0:1.9.11-3.fc14.i686
libgdl-devel-0:2.31.3-1.fc14.i686
solang-0:0.4.1-9.fc14.i686
valide-0:0.6.1-0.22.20103003svn511.fc14.i686

And repoquery --whatrequires libgdl --alldeps doesn't add more than
libgdl itself.

 I'm not familiar with the internal workings of libgdl,
 however I use libgdl for a couple of my own applications. I think I can
 tell whether or not the problem is my own application.
 
 The upstream bug report I referenced before includes a response from the
 Anjuta/libgdl developer, Anyway, gdl 2.31.x is broken and gnome-2-32
 will ship gdl 2.30.x.. I'm inclined to trust the upstream developer if
 he says his app is broken.

Well, not responding to bugzilla tickets, sometimes it's a packager's way
to signal I don't have time for this and would appreciate if somebody
else took over.  Dunno whether that is the case for libgdl in Fedora
though, but given your interest in libgdl, it would make sense to get
involved in the Fedora package maintenance somehow.
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Re: LibreOffice

2010-10-02 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 15:21 +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote:
 I have no problems helping package this behemoth!

+1 : I can help out too. 

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Does anybody know how to contact David Zeuthen (festival maintainer)?

2010-10-02 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
  Hi,
Considering the fact that the maintainer is not responsible for a long 
time, I'd like to ask if anybody knows how to contact David Zeuthen?!
Festival seems to be unmaintained for more than a year. But it has many 
commiters which might decide to become its maintainer.

Thanks,
Hedayat

On ۱۰/۱۰/۰۲  08:37, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:


 On ۱۰/۱۰/۰۲  03:55, Chen Lei wrote:
 2010/10/2 Hedayat Vatankhahheda...@grad.com:
   Hi,
 There has been no response from the maintainer since 2009-06-24 as is
 clear in [1]. Also, the package has not been updated since then. I
 wonder what should I do now (?)

 Thanks,
 Hedayat

 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507966
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 Chen Lei
 Thanks.

 Well, I've checked pkgdb, and apparently there are many people with 
 commit access on festival. Also, it seems that David maintains many 
 packages, so he is probably not completely unresponsive!
 I wonder what should be done in this case?!

 Thanks,
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Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

I want libjpeg packages in future Fedora distributions to support
reading arithmetic coded JPEG files.

Huffman coding and arithmetic are two different bit coding methods that
are available in the JPEG standard. Huffman is simpler to implement than
arithmetic coding and historically hasn't suffered from software
patents. Arithmetic coding (as used in JPEG) had been covered by
software patents, but these patents have now apparently expired. [Fedora
legal could check this.]

The vast majority of JPEG files so far used Huffman coding because of
the software patents issue. libjpeg version 7 (one of the forks of the
old IJG software) and newer enable support for arithmetic coding by
default. With older versions of libjpeg (such as the ones bundled by
Fedora up to release 13), support can be added in the form of a
patch. No application code modifications are required.  (I'm not sure if
it's ABI compatible though, but on a re-reading of the libjpeg headers,
it might well be.)

Arithmetic coding is in every case a superior bit coding method than
Huffman, because arithmetic coding doesn't use an integral number of
bits to represent codes like Huffman does. So JPEG files created with
arithmetic coding are always smaller than those created with Huffman
coding.

Software such as jpegtran (as distributed with libjpeg 7 and above) can
losslessly convert Huffman coded images to arithmetic coded and vice
versa. The lossy behavior of JPEG does not happen at this (bit coding)
layer of the format.

The libjpeg package maintainer seems to be satisfied in closing the bug
rather than providing a good rationale for doing so. But I will be the
devil's advocate myself.

You see, .jpg files are assumed to be an ubiquitous file format. They
_just work_ everywhere. If you have a .jpg file, it is understood you
aren't going to have problems when using it. But arithmetic coded files
do not open everywhere. In fact, they rarely work in most applications,
devices, etc. today, because pretty much everyone is using an old
libjpeg with no support for it due to the historical software patents
issue.

As an example, in the context of GIMP creating such files, there were
some comments that people would start losing faith in JPEG if they see
incompatibilites, that such files are crippled JPEGs [sic], that people
who use devices such as digital photo frames will suffer, that I should
instead blog about free software and the evils of software patents, that
this option should never be available in a dialog to the end-user, etc.

* Fedora is not the only software that creates JPEG files. The nearest
  first implementation of a .jpg file creator program is cjpeg which is
  a part of libjpeg (the fork at ijg.org), and even that allows creating
  arithmetic coded files now. It would be arrogance to think that just
  because Fedora creates these files, the world of JPEG is going to
  suffer. Or that if Fedora doesn't do it, nobody else would.

* The situation with arithmetic coding in the context of incompatibility
  with existing embedded decoders is just like H.264 and profiles. The
  iPhone for example does not play all kinds of H.264 files (it supports
  only the baseline profile). But MPEG content creation software does
  allow you to create files that use baseline as well as other
  profiles. It doesn't say Hey, you the user are pretty stupid, so I'm
  not just turning this option off, but I'm not making it available to
  you. It would be arrogance to not provide an option to the end-user,
  just because I think the user may not know what he/she is doing.

* Due to the patents issue, we had to assume that Huffman was the only
  bit coding method of this standard, whereas it isn't so. Arithmetic
  coding has been in the standard all these umpteen years, and some
  people used it. There was always the odd JPEG content that used
  arithmetic coding and which still complied with the standards. These
  are not broken JPEGs.

Also quoting from the bug:
 In any case, there are practical and political reasons not to encourage the
 spread of the arithmetic-coding variant of JPEG.  It's not compatible with 
 most
 implementations and it doesn't offer enough benefit to be worth creating an
 enormous compatibility problem.  So even if the code existed I would resist
 turning it on.  I think the author of libjpeg 8 has made a very serious error
 by adding support for it.

I have replied on the bug about it. Some of the text in my initial bug
description is incorrect, and I have corrected it in this email.

It is not upto Fedora to make political decisions when there is no good
reason for it. This goes against the values of free software.

You shall not create images with arithmetic coding is like saying You
shall not create images of the flying sphagetti monster. It's not up to
Fedora to make this choice for me.

As libjpeg is a shared library on the system, if it can support
arithmetic coding, it should.  

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi,

 You shall not create images with arithmetic coding is like saying You
 shall not create images of the flying sphagetti monster. It's not up to
 Fedora to make this choice for me.

It is though - you have chosen to use Fedora therefore have to live with
the decisions the Fedora legal people (I'm assuming they said no to
arithmetic coding) have said goes.

Remember, Fedora is not just for use in your country - there are piles
of countries it's used in, each with their own insane patent
regulations. The fedora stance is that if it offends, it's out.

If you want a prime example, look at either DeCSS or mp3 support. Plenty
of distros have it, but they're both out of Fedora. Doesn't matter that
in the authenticity of the mp3 patent is still in doubt, Fedora plays it
safe. rpmfusion may supply DeCSS and mp3 support, but they're not part
of Fedora. This may be one avenue to look at - see if rpmfusion can
supply an add-on package for this.

Paul

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Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/10/2 Paul F. Johnson p...@all-the-johnsons.co.uk:

 Remember, Fedora is not just for use in your country - there are piles
 of countries it's used in, each with their own insane patent
 regulations. The fedora stance is that if it offends, it's out.

Just for the record, AFAIK there are only two countries which allows
software patents - USA and South Korea.
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Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi,

  Remember, Fedora is not just for use in your country - there are piles
  of countries it's used in, each with their own insane patent
  regulations. The fedora stance is that if it offends, it's out.
 
 Just for the record, AFAIK there are only two countries which allows
 software patents - USA and South Korea.

Yep - and it's the US which has some of the more insane ones (and
therefore has to be the most careful over). 

I wonder how long it will be before Apple's current insane one over
backing up to a local repository will be allowed to stand - effectively
it means you can't burn to a CD!

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Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 22:53:53 +0530
Mukund Sivaraman m...@banu.com wrote:

 Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

...snip long thing...

My thoughts: 

- We should not be making this change in stable releases even if
  otherwise like the idea. It could well cause issues and problems with
  a fragile library used by a lot of things. 

- In f14+ we are not using libjpeg. We are using libjpeg-turbo. See: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/libjpeg-turbo
So, any request to enable this support should be filed there and looked
at from it's perspective. Do they have support? Does it cause any
issues? Does upstream enable it? 

- For the legal side, make your (new libjpeg-turbo) bug block FE_LEGAL
  so it can be looked at. 

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Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Björn Persson
Peter Lemenkov wrote:
 Just for the record, AFAIK there are only two countries which allows
 software patents - USA and South Korea.

That's not the whole story. The situation is quite weird in countries that 
have signed the European Patent Convention. The convention and the national 
laws all state clearly that computer programs are not patentable, and yet 
software patents are granted on a daily basis, justified with some irrational 
reasoning that makes sense only to mentally deranged patent lawyers and some 
gullible politicians. Tens of thousands of these illegal patents have been 
granted.

Several years ago the patent lobby attempted to push through an EU directive 
to legalize software patents. The directive was eventally dropped after years 
of massive campaigning for and against, but that only means that the granting 
of illegal patents continues as before.

Such a patent might not hold up in court if it were contested by a good lawyer 
and the judge had some basic understanding of how computers work, but that 
doesn't make the patents harmless. Due to the high cost and the uncertain 
outcome of a patent lawsuit, small companies often have no choice but to pay 
the license fees.

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Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com writes:
 On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 22:53:53 +0530
 Mukund Sivaraman m...@banu.com wrote:
 Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

 My thoughts: 

 - We should not be making this change in stable releases even if
   otherwise like the idea. It could well cause issues and problems with
   a fragile library used by a lot of things. 

Don't worry, there's exactly 0 chance of that.

 - In f14+ we are not using libjpeg. We are using libjpeg-turbo. See: 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/libjpeg-turbo

Yes.  So actually the OP is pestering the wrong person; he should be
trying to convice the libjpeg-turbo maintainers to expend work on this.

I believe that they'd be best advised to say no, because at this point
one of JPEG's principal attractions is near-universal compatibility.
Throwing A/C into the mix will throw that away, for what really is a
very marginal gain in compression efficiency.  If you want a new
not-compatible-with-anything image format, you may as well adopt JPEG
2000, or some other format that's less than 20 years old.  The A/C
option to original JPEG is something that missed its chance because of
patents.  Resurrecting it from the dead now is just an exercise in
misplaced priorities.

But having said that, it's not my decision to make; it's the
libjpeg-turbo authors' decision whether to expend effort in that
direction.

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Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Björn Persson
Tom Lane wrote:
 I believe that they'd be best advised to say no, because at this point
 one of JPEG's principal attractions is near-universal compatibility.
 Throwing A/C into the mix will throw that away, for what really is a
 very marginal gain in compression efficiency.

It's well known around the Internet that to achieve compatibility you should 
be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you accept. Applied to 
JPEG: Use only Huffman coding when encoding – except maybe if you know that all 
recipients can handle arithmetic coding – but support both encodings when 
decoding.

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Re: LibreOffice

2010-10-02 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 22:14 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
 On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 15:21 +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote:
  I have no problems helping package this behemoth!
 
 +1 : I can help out too.

Given that the Fedora OOo maintainer [1] is in the steering committee of
the new Document Foundation [2], I wouldn't worry about the move. ;)


[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/openoffice.org
[2] http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/


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Re: Need proventester karma for firstboot-1.113-4.fc14 (was: Re: bodhi v0.7.9 deployed)

2010-10-02 Thread Camilo Mesias
I think the moral of this story is that the input to the process is
fallible. Shit always happens.

Automated systems that filter or delay the 'happening' should be
backed up by statistics to show that they help...

Otherwise, when they filter and delay attempts to fix problems by
people who are trying to help, they will just cause frustration.

-Cam

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 12:45:14AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Matthew Garrett wrote:
  Some packages were pushed to stable before they should have been,
  therefore we need to make it easier to push packages to stable?

 Yes! Sure, this sounds paradoxical, but my premise is that NO MATTER how
 strict you make the requirement for pushes to stable, there will ALWAYS be
 the possibility that sh*t happens and thus a need to be able to rush out
 fixes to stable as quickly as possible.

 And my premise is that we should be making harder for shit to happen,
 and the cases where it *does* should be examined carefully to determine
 the best way forwards. Force this untested package into stable isn't
 the best way to do things.

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Re: LibreOffice

2010-10-02 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 15:21 +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Given the fun which looks to be happening over OOo due to Oracle, are
 there any plans to drop OOo and move over to LibreOffice (which looks to
 be at version 3.2.999 - pretty much the same as OOo currently is at).
 The full release version is penned in for Christmas (or there abouts).
 
 I have no problems helping package this behemoth!
 
 TTFN
 
 Paul

I'll say one thing for LibreOffice, there's certainly no shortage of
interest in it.

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Re: Does anybody know how to contact David Zeuthen (festival maintainer)?

2010-10-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 08:45:38PM +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
   Hi,
 Considering the fact that the maintainer is not responsible for a long 
 time, I'd like to ask if anybody knows how to contact David Zeuthen?!
 Festival seems to be unmaintained for more than a year. But it has many 
 commiters which might decide to become its maintainer.

I wish I had time to work on it. :(

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Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-02 Thread Brandon Lozza
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Gerald Henriksen ghenr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Look, I realise you are passionate about KDE, and want the best KDE
 experience in Fedora.  But most people are not developers, they
 instead are using their desktop environment of choice to get regular,
 everyday things done with office software, web browsers, email, and
 sometime even custom software.  They want predictability, which means
 only having to make changes to how they do things when they are
 prepared for the changes, which occurs when they upgrade Fedora.  Thus
 the best KDE experience you can give them is one of stability, where
 KDE helps them do their work instead of being work.

I'm not a developer at all. I'm a hardened power user and I got sick
and tired of not having the latest version of a particular application
and that led me to Fedora Linux. I'm a quick learner and these
disruptive changes often work out increasing my productivity. I
understand this profile doesn't fit everyone but Fedora will end up
losing the more advanced end users in its effort to grab more of the
less advanced end users who are fearful of change and/or gave up their
pursuit of knowledge.

Fedora is just going to end up having a million repos for all the
software that will not be updated for six months. And that makes us
look silly. Windows doesn't have repositories for users who want the
latest firefox, they just download it and install it. No bullshit
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Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Paul F. Johnson
p...@all-the-johnsons.co.uk wrote:
 Hi,

 You shall not create images with arithmetic coding is like saying You
 shall not create images of the flying sphagetti monster. It's not up to
 Fedora to make this choice for me.

 It is though - you have chosen to use Fedora therefore have to live with
 the decisions the Fedora legal people (I'm assuming they said no to
 arithmetic coding) have said goes.

The relevant patent expired last year. I believe the SUN OMS team had
researched this extensively as they were using the JPEG arithmetic
coder in their aggressively researched royalty free video codec
design.

If someone doing legal research on this needs more information, you
can contact me offlist and I can connect you with people who have
researched this topic and may be willing to provide some useful
pointers.

2010/10/2 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se:
 It's well known around the Internet that to achieve compatibility you should
 be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you accept. Applied to
 JPEG: Use only Huffman coding when encoding – except maybe if you know that 
 all
 recipients can handle arithmetic coding – but support both encodings when
 decoding.

Absolutely. This is an excellent argument and I think is sufficient to
justify the inclusion alone.
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Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 08:56:21PM -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote:

 I'm not a developer at all. I'm a hardened power user and I got sick
 and tired of not having the latest version of a particular application
 and that led me to Fedora Linux. I'm a quick learner and these
 disruptive changes often work out increasing my productivity. I
 understand this profile doesn't fit everyone but Fedora will end up
 losing the more advanced end users in its effort to grab more of the
 less advanced end users who are fearful of change and/or gave up their
 pursuit of knowledge.

It turns out to be remarkably difficult to develop software for Fedora 
if a moderate part of the week ends up being spent wondering why 
something that previously worked no longer works. This isn't about less 
advanced end users. It's about providing stability in order to provide 
an operating system that people can actually use without.

 Fedora is just going to end up having a million repos for all the
 software that will not be updated for six months. And that makes us
 look silly. Windows doesn't have repositories for users who want the
 latest firefox, they just download it and install it. No bullshit
 required.

Software distribution mechanisms are an entirely separate issue from a 
distribution's (effectively required) update policy.

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Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Björn Persson wrote:
 It's well known around the Internet that to achieve compatibility you
 should be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you accept.
 Applied to JPEG: Use only Huffman coding when encoding – except maybe if
 you know that all recipients can handle arithmetic coding – but support
 both encodings when decoding.

+1

I can see not adding the support to the ENCODING portion, also because that 
appears to imply an ABI change (extra flag), but the DECODING portion of the 
patch should be merged.

The patch against the original libjpeg libjpeg-turbo is derived from should 
probably work, it might not be turbo-optimized, but given how rare those 
files are, that shouldn't be a problem. It's still better to be able to 
decode the files slowly than not at all.

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Re: Does anybody know how to contact David Zeuthen (festival maintainer)?

2010-10-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:45 +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
 Hi,
 Considering the fact that the maintainer is not responsible for a long 
 time, I'd like to ask if anybody knows how to contact David Zeuthen?!
 Festival seems to be unmaintained for more than a year. But it has many 
 commiters which might decide to become its maintainer.

You can reach David by sending him mail (dav...@redhat.com) or finding
him on irc (davidz on GimpNet).

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Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-02 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 20:56:21 -0400, you wrote:

Fedora is just going to end up having a million repos for all the
software that will not be updated for six months. And that makes us
look silly. Windows doesn't have repositories for users who want the
latest firefox, they just download it and install it. 

How exactly is the Windows experience different?

Windows - explicity download from mozilla (aka repository) and
install.

Your example Fedora - download from special Firefox repository and
install

Seems the same to me.

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[Bug 639523] missing dependency

2010-10-02 Thread bugzilla
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Mark Chappell trem...@tremble.org.uk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||trem...@tremble.org.uk

--- Comment #1 from Mark Chappell trem...@tremble.org.uk 2010-10-02 04:59:21 
EDT ---
Looks like perl-Mozilla-LDAP didn't branch for el6 and I can't find it in the
el repos.

perl-MIME-tools on the other hand is in the optional repos which need to be
manually enabled.  (MIME::Entity and MIME::Parser)

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[perl-Mail-IMAPClient] Fix docfile dependencies

2010-10-02 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 7b3b6078187dbcbfaf8e06109edbc9956bb353c5
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Sat Oct 2 10:04:42 2010 +0100

Fix docfile dependencies

- Turn off exec bits on examples to avoid docfile dependencies (#639523)
- Fix character encoding in documentation

 perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec |   13 -
 1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec b/perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec
index 7f70f08..a220de1 100644
--- a/perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec
+++ b/perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Mail-IMAPClient
 Version:3.25
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:An IMAP Client API
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -21,6 +21,13 @@ to and an IMAP conversation with an IMAP server.
 %setup -q -n Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}
 sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' examples/*.pl
 
+# Turn off exec bits in examples to avoid docfile dependencies
+chmod -c -x examples/*.pl
+
+# Fix character encoding in documentation
+iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8  Changes  Changes.utf8
+mv Changes.utf8 Changes
+
 %build
 # the extended tests cannot be run without an IMAP server
 yes n | %{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
@@ -45,6 +52,10 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Oct  2 2010 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 3.25-2
+- turn off exec bits on examples to avoid docfile dependencies (#639523)
+- fix character encoding in documentation
+
 * Mon Jul 12 2010 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.25-1
 - update to 3.25
 
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[Bug 639523] missing dependency

2010-10-02 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #2 from Mark Chappell trem...@tremble.org.uk 2010-10-02 05:11:53 
EDT ---
Ah, it looks like Mozilla LDAP was dropped in beta2 refresh

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[perl-Mail-IMAPClient/el6/master: 7/7] Merge branch 'master' into el6

2010-10-02 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 5b632aafc4b7ed560617d41fc0db9b5a161dcbfb
Merge: 3463ca9 7b3b607
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Sat Oct 2 10:14:46 2010 +0100

Merge branch 'master' into el6

Conflicts:
.gitignore
perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec

 .gitignore|2 +-
 perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec |   13 -
 2 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --cc .gitignore
index 0650f07,c68acd8..52352ef
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@@ -1,1 -1,1 +1,1 @@@
- Mail-IMAPClient-3.21.tar.gz
 -Mail-IMAPClient-3.25.tar.gz
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[perl-Mail-IMAPClient/el6/master] (7 commits) ...Merge branch 'master' into el6

2010-10-02 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  829b006... Fix typo that causes a failure to update the common directo (*)
  4ea9b15... - rebuild against perl 5.10.1 (*)
  16632d7... - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0 (*)
  4662966... 3.25 (*)
  cb7327d... dist-git conversion (*)
  7b3b607... Fix docfile dependencies (*)
  5b632aa... Merge branch 'master' into el6

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[Bug 553142] Merge Review: perl-MIME-tools - Modules for parsing and creating MIME entities in Perl

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Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||639523

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[Bug 639523] missing dependency

2010-10-02 Thread bugzilla
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Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |MODIFIED
 CC||p...@city-fan.org
 Depends on||553142

--- Comment #3 from Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org 2010-10-02 05:23:44 EDT ---
perl-Mail-IMAPClient has docfile dependencies due to upstream adding exec bits
to their example scripts at version 3.24. I've updated Rawhide and EL6 to fix
that.

As for the perl-MIME-tools, that's a well-known issue (Bug #553142) that looks
like it's going to have to wait until we know for sure what's going to ship in
RHEL-6 GA before a decision is made on what to do about it (e.g. clone the
needed Workstation-only packages in EPEL if there's no RHEL channel for Server
users to provide these packages). Alternatively you might raise a bug on the
RHEL-6 distribution component and ask if not including perl-MIME-tools in
RHEL-6 Server is a mistake (it's not unheard of - see Bug #636763 for example).

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[perl-Mail-IMAPClient] Created tag perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.25-2.el6

2010-10-02 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.25-2.el6' was created pointing to:

 5b632aa... Merge branch 'master' into el6
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[perl-Mail-IMAPClient] Created tag perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.25-2.fc15

2010-10-02 Thread Paul Howarth
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 7b3b607... Fix docfile dependencies
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[Bug 639557] New: mojomojo-1.02 is available

2010-10-02 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: mojomojo-1.02 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639557

   Summary: mojomojo-1.02 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: ASSIGNED
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: mojomojo
AssignedTo: iarn...@gmail.com
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: iarn...@gmail.com, fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


Latest upstream release: 1.02
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 1.01
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/MojoMojo/

Please consult the package update guidelines before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_guidelines

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[Bug 639559] New: perl-Date-Manip-6.12 is available

2010-10-02 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: perl-Date-Manip-6.12 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639559

   Summary: perl-Date-Manip-6.12 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: ASSIGNED
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: perl-Date-Manip
AssignedTo: mmasl...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


Latest upstream release: 6.12
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 6.11
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Date-Manip/

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[Bug 639560] New: perl-PPIx-EditorTools-0.10 is available

2010-10-02 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: perl-PPIx-EditorTools-0.10 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639560

   Summary: perl-PPIx-EditorTools-0.10 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: ASSIGNED
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: perl-PPIx-EditorTools
AssignedTo: mmasl...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


Latest upstream release: 0.10
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 0.09
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/PPIx-EditorTools/

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File Cache-FastMmap-1.36.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Cache-FastMmap:

d13b3b3a4b7784ecfc99f2c586985796  Cache-FastMmap-1.36.tar.gz
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[perl-Cache-FastMmap] (10 commits) ...update to 1.36

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes:

  ec6e1bf... Initialize branch F-12 for perl-Cache-FastMmap (*)
  bf9537e... Fix typo that causes a failure to update the common directo (*)
  b1aca39... Initialize branch F-13 for perl-Cache-FastMmap (*)
  afed9c5... - update to latest upstream version (*)
  34e21ff... - update to latest upstream version (*)
  8dae699... - drop failing leak test (rt #39342) (*)
  c0003d8... dist-git conversion (*)
  6e23c00... dist-git conversion (*)
  59077a2... Initial pseudo merge for dist-git setup
  3f9fc72... update to 1.36

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[perl-Cache-FastMmap: 9/10] Initial pseudo merge for dist-git setup

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 59077a2be92883558718b0035bababb78fbb7205
Merge: 88df7d9 6e23c00 c0003d8
Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com
Date:   Sat Oct 2 13:16:08 2010 +0200

Initial pseudo merge for dist-git setup

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[perl-Cache-FastMmap: 10/10] update to 1.36

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 3f9fc72975356dfc933eed9aaa0a0cd998bb66cc
Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com
Date:   Sat Oct 2 13:22:58 2010 +0200

update to 1.36

 .gitignore   |1 +
 perl-Cache-FastMmap.spec |   11 +++
 sources  |2 +-
 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 02afaea..b69ee14 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
 Cache-FastMmap-1.35.tar.gz
+/Cache-FastMmap-1.36.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Cache-FastMmap.spec b/perl-Cache-FastMmap.spec
index b52a40e..044486a 100644
--- a/perl-Cache-FastMmap.spec
+++ b/perl-Cache-FastMmap.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Cache-FastMmap
-Version:1.35
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Version:1.36
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Uses an mmap'ed file to act as a shared memory interprocess 
cache
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -9,8 +9,7 @@ Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/R/RO/ROBM/Cache-FastMmap-%{versio
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More)
-# rt #39342 - fails leak test
-#BuildRequires:  perl(GTop)
+BuildRequires:  perl(GTop)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Compress::Zlib)
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
 
@@ -58,6 +57,10 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Oct 02 2010 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 1.36-1
+- update to latest upstream
+- re-enable leak test
+
 * Thu Apr 29 2010 Marcela Maslanova mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.35-2
 - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 318cc54..20877cb 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-43f2c79ef890bb98b576fb76dd3621c4  Cache-FastMmap-1.35.tar.gz
+d13b3b3a4b7784ecfc99f2c586985796  Cache-FastMmap-1.36.tar.gz
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[perl-Cache-FastMmap/f14/master] (10 commits) ...update to 1.36

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes:

  ec6e1bf... Initialize branch F-12 for perl-Cache-FastMmap (*)
  bf9537e... Fix typo that causes a failure to update the common directo (*)
  b1aca39... Initialize branch F-13 for perl-Cache-FastMmap (*)
  afed9c5... - update to latest upstream version (*)
  34e21ff... - update to latest upstream version (*)
  8dae699... - drop failing leak test (rt #39342) (*)
  c0003d8... dist-git conversion (*)
  6e23c00... dist-git conversion (*)
  59077a2... Initial pseudo merge for dist-git setup (*)
  3f9fc72... update to 1.36 (*)

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[perl-Cache-FastMmap/f12/master] (12 commits) ...update to 1.36

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes:

  d448732... Fix typo that causes a failure to update the common directo (*)
  ebf24eb... - rebuild against perl 5.10.1 (*)
  0987e17... - drop failing leak test (rt #39342) (*)
  b0bfecd... - use perl_default_filter (*)
  b1aca39... Initialize branch F-13 for perl-Cache-FastMmap (*)
  056ee4f... - update to latest upstream version (*)
  afed9c5... - update to latest upstream version (*)
  8800ba4... - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0 (*)
  c0003d8... dist-git conversion (*)
  88df7d9... dist-git conversion (*)
  59077a2... Initial pseudo merge for dist-git setup (*)
  3f9fc72... update to 1.36 (*)

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File Devel-REPL-1.003012.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Devel-REPL:

bff993f2799b2e2cfbc89fbb74607106  Devel-REPL-1.003012.tar.gz
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File Dist-Zilla-4.102341.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Dist-Zilla:

a86770926a41f6c640ef48d5b99d4fcd  Dist-Zilla-4.102341.tar.gz
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[perl-Devel-REPL] update to 1.003012

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 34f909066855e4858af397375fea5b41300b844b
Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com
Date:   Sun Oct 3 07:51:58 2010 +0200

update to 1.003012

 .gitignore   |1 +
 perl-Devel-REPL.spec |   14 ++
 sources  |2 +-
 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 5d61275..ad162f0 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
 Devel-REPL-1.003011.tar.gz
+/Devel-REPL-1.003012.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Devel-REPL.spec b/perl-Devel-REPL.spec
index 587f671..4d7aa98 100644
--- a/perl-Devel-REPL.spec
+++ b/perl-Devel-REPL.spec
@@ -1,12 +1,11 @@
 Name:   perl-Devel-REPL
-Version:1.003011
+Version:1.003012
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Modern perl interactive shell
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Devel-REPL/
-Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/F/FR/FREW/Devel-REPL-%{version}.tar.gz
-BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
+Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/D/DO/DOY/Devel-REPL-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildArch:  noarch
 BuildRequires:  perl(CPAN)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
@@ -50,8 +49,6 @@ of code without the need to create a temporary source code 
file.
 make %{?_smp_mflags}
 
 %install
-rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-
 make pure_install DESTDIR=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \;
@@ -62,9 +59,6 @@ find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 
2/dev/null \;
 %check
 make test
 
-%clean
-rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-
 %files
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)
 %doc Changes README examples
@@ -73,6 +67,10 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Sun Oct 03 2010 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 1.003012-1
+- update to latest upstream
+- clean up spec for modern rpmbuild
+
 * Wed Jun 16 2010 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 1.003011-1
 - update to latest upstream
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index c6e3a0f..b1d2198 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-208ed289569e111bc0bf26be1ea50dc9  Devel-REPL-1.003011.tar.gz
+bff993f2799b2e2cfbc89fbb74607106  Devel-REPL-1.003012.tar.gz
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