Hi all,
as per [1], I'd like to take over the orphaned python-mutagen package.
Let me know if there are any objections.
Cheers,
Michele
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On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 17:29 +1030, William B wrote:
I just happened to look at the firewalld default settings, and I
was not amused when I noticed this:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/firewalld.git/tree/FedoraWorkstation.xml
port protocol=udp port=1025-65535/
port
Dne 9.12.2014 v 04:06 Adam Williamson napsal(a):
Just to recap, the idea here is that we try to get good coverage on the
testing as early as possible, with the goal of giving the developers -
especially the anaconda developers - longer to work on the critical
issues. The earlier we identify
Am 09.12.2014 um 10:08 schrieb Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos:
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 17:29 +1030, William B wrote:
I just happened to look at the firewalld default settings, and I
was not amused when I noticed this:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/firewalld.git/tree/FedoraWorkstation.xml
port
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:55:07AM +0100, Dan Horák wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 11:36:47 +0100
Karel Zak k...@redhat.com wrote:
BTW, util-linux v2.26 (f22) is going to contain new command zramctl(8)
Karel
$ zramctl --help
Usage:
lt-zramctl [options] device
lt-zramctl
Am 09.12.2014 um 11:24 schrieb Karel Zak:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:55:07AM +0100, Dan Horák wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 11:36:47 +0100
Karel Zak k...@redhat.com wrote:
BTW, util-linux v2.26 (f22) is going to contain new command zramctl(8)
$ zramctl --help
Usage:
lt-zramctl [options]
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As one who maintains a remix for journalists, I expect the default for
a workstation should be that you mus* explicitly know what you are
doing to open a port, and enable or start a service - the default
release should have a minimum attack surface by design.
- Original Message -
sudo firewall-cmd --set-default-zone=FedoraServer
That will limit it to SSH, DHCPv6 and cockpit
Or use default zone Public, which swaps cockpit out and adds mDNS
Or if you're Reindl Harald-level paranoid (no offense intended, Harald
but
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 16:30 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Bastien Nocera wrote:
If this had been discussed on this list, as it is supposed to, the
objections would have come in much earlier.
If you're interested in Workstation-specific features, you need to
subscribe to
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Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Also, while I think it's been unclear in this thread, the main reason
that the firewall GUI was taken out was because the Workstation guys
want to design a more user-understandable one and include that directly
(if I am remembering
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I only want certain binaries to be allowed network access.
For example, I want to allow the below binaries access to the internet:
/usr/lib64/firefox/firefox
/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox
/bin/yum (it seems to be done via python like /usr/bin/python
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 10:49 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
If Reindl, Kevin or Tomas want to disagree with that, I'll give you a
little
exercise:
Having just installed and updated my Fedora 20, I want to share a
video in my
home directory using UPnP/DLNA to my TV, using rygel for example.
Hi,
I also thought that the whole points of having Zones etc, was so that
we could pick a different zone per network connection,
/me too.
so if I'm in the office or at home I can say use this zone, if I'm
at a coffee shop I can pick a different one etc.
Or was this consider too
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:54:59PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
Why we can't have something like this? And if you don't want a popup
asking, have something in the NetworkManager applet menu, where people
can easily find the switch without having to search for it? A [x]
allow sharing checkbox?
Am Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:00:01 +
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 05:54:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Product defaults to
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:35:23PM +0100, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
We are concerned with practical security -- keeping the user safe by
anticipating the user's typical response to situations. But if you think
the firewall configuration GUI in F20 existed for any purpose other than
to
On 9 December 2014 at 11:35, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 10:49 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
If Reindl, Kevin or Tomas want to disagree with that, I'll give you a
little
exercise:
Having just installed and updated my Fedora 20, I want to share a
video
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 03:34 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Because Fedora is aggressively marketing a Product with a major
security
vulnerability as its primary Product.
To the extent that this is any argument at all: neither Ubuntu nor
Debian enables a firewall.
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On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 17:29 +1030, William B wrote:
I just happened to look at the firewalld default settings, and I
was not amused when I noticed this:
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 07:27 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Also, while I think it's been unclear in this thread, the main reason
that the firewall GUI was taken out was because the Workstation guys
want to design a more user-understandable one and include that
On 8 December 2014 at 15:33, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 02:31:58PM +, Ian Malone wrote:
There are three products: workstation, server, cloud. Workstation is
the one for desktop use. That leaves server to aim for the traditional
fedora user base,
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On 9 December 2014 at 11:35, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 10:49 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
If Reindl, Kevin or Tomas want to disagree with that, I'll give you a
little
exercise:
Having just installed and updated my
- Original Message -
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:54:59PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
Why we can't have something like this? And if you don't want a popup
asking, have something in the NetworkManager applet menu, where people
can easily find the switch without having to search for
Am 09.12.2014 um 14:16 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:54:59PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
Why we can't have something like this? And if you don't want a popup
asking, have something in the NetworkManager applet menu, where people
can easily find the switch without having
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On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 17:29 +1030, William B wrote:
I just happened to look at the firewalld default settings, and I
Am 09.12.2014 um 14:23 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
[1]: I haven't seen anything but arm-flailing on that issue. If somebody wants
to
go into details about what a server running inside the user's session would be
able to do that a client wouldn't be able to, feel free.
you realize the difference
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Am 09.12.2014 um 14:16 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:54:59PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
Why we can't have something like this? And if you don't want a popup
asking, have something in the NetworkManager applet menu, where people
can
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Am 09.12.2014 um 14:23 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
[1]: I haven't seen anything but arm-flailing on that issue. If somebody
wants to
go into details about what a server running inside the user's session would
be
able to do that a client wouldn't be able to,
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schrieb devel-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org:
Message: 7
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 05:54:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 16:41 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
So you rather implement the type of OS that just always assumes Yes
without even asking? Because that's what the current firewall rules
do
(between quotes because it can hardly be called a firewall in that
state).
How's that more
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 18:56 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
is Workstation the only Fedora-branded release with those ports open?
Yes
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Am 09.12.2014 um 14:32 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
Am 09.12.2014 um 14:23 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
[1]: I haven't seen anything but arm-flailing on that issue. If somebody
wants to
go into details about what a server running inside the user's session would
be
able to do that a client wouldn't be
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 01:11:33PM +, Ian Malone wrote:
have a proposal for a new spin focused on privacy and security — the
Netizen Spin. (If you're interested, I think that could use additional
contributors.)
I was under the impression spins were to be phased out. I could be
wrong,
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On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 02:41:08PM +0100, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
is Workstation the only Fedora-branded release with those ports open?
Yes
Well, no. Fedora Cloud doesn't include any iptables rules by default.
(The assumption is that it'll be run in a cloud environment with
security groups at
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On 9 December 2014 at 13:39, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
So your challenge is to find an alternative default that
supports it.
I'd go even further. I don't think the people writing the vast number
of lengthy posts on this thread actually want to *use* workstation,
with the
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On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 17:08 -0430, Robert Marcano wrote:
Adding to that, this decision bring me memories to the awful old case
when someone decided that the install anything from the repositories
was
permitted to any user on the system by default, that was reverted
with
an update because
On 12/09/2014 08:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 09.12.2014 um 14:16 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:54:59PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
Why we can't have something like this? And if you don't want a popup
asking, have something in the NetworkManager applet menu, where
On 12/09/2014 09:20 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 17:08 -0430, Robert Marcano wrote:
Adding to that, this decision bring me memories to the awful old case
when someone decided that the install anything from the repositories
was
permitted to any user on the system by
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Am 09.12.2014 um 14:32 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
Am 09.12.2014 um 14:23 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
[1]: I haven't seen anything but arm-flailing on that issue. If somebody
wants to
go into details about what a server running inside the user's session
would
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On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 14:41 +0100, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 18:56 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
is Workstation the only Fedora-branded release with those ports open?
Yes
No, actually. The Fedora Cloud ships with no firewall at all (but that's
because it's
On 12/09/2014 09:27 AM, Robert Marcano wrote:
What I see frequently are applications that are installed from outside
the Fedora repositories, that can be forced to behave like Fedora
packaging rules, with secure defaults before sharing, being installed
and the user that don't know much about
On 12/09/2014 08:50 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 9 December 2014 at 13:39, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
So your challenge is to find an alternative default that
supports it.
I'd go even further. I don't think the people writing
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 08:23 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
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On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 17:29 +1030, William B wrote:
I
You can do this with SELinux and confined users somewhat.
YOU basically could setup a user as xguest with no network access and
then write
policy to transition to certain domains that can use the internet. No
ability to prompt the user
though.
This will get you most of the way you want to go,
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To: Development discussions related to Fedora
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Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 8:57:51 AM
Subject: Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall
On 12/09/2014 08:53 AM,
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From: Brian Wheeler bdwhe...@indiana.edu
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 9:18:47 AM
Subject: Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall
On 12/09/2014 08:50 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 9 December 2014 at
Am 09.12.2014 um 15:57 schrieb Christian Schaller:
Well I think it is hard for anyone to guess what would be reasonable defaults
for
you specifically, any default is by its nature just targeting an generic
person, which might or might not be a lot like you.
But if you are aware and understand
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On 12/09/2014 03:57 PM, Christian Schaller wrote:
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From: Brian Wheeler bdwhe...@indiana.edu
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
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Subject: Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall
On 12/09/2014 08:50 AM,
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:45:56 -0500 (EST)
Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:
No, because that'd be awful UI.
Is it really so awful to ask a user:
Do you want to expose Eclipse to the network ? (of course worded in a
better way than my poor English
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On 12/09/2014 08:50 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 9 December 2014 at 13:39, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
So your challenge is to find an alternative default that
supports it.
I'd go even further. I don't think the people writing the
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Hi,
I also thought that the whole points of having Zones etc, was so that
we could pick a different zone per network connection,
/me too.
so if I'm in the office or at home I can say use this zone, if I'm
at a coffee shop I can pick a different
On Di, 2014-12-09 at 08:16 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
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On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:54:59PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
Why we can't have something like this? And if you don't want a popup
asking, have something in the NetworkManager applet menu, where
- Original Message -
You can do this with SELinux and confined users somewhat.
YOU basically could setup a user as xguest with no network access and
then write
policy to transition to certain domains that can use the internet. No
ability to prompt the user
though.
This will
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 10:09:07 -0500 (EST)
Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:
- Original Message -
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:45:56 -0500 (EST)
Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:
No, because that'd be awful UI.
Is it really so awful to ask a user:
Do you want to
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:45:56 -0500 (EST)
Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:
No, because that'd be awful UI.
Is it really so awful to ask a user:
Do you want to expose Eclipse to the network ? (of course worded in a
better way than my poor English skills can do).
I think users can
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To: Development discussions related to Fedora
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Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:22:01 AM
Subject: Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall
On Di, 2014-12-09 at 08:16 -0500,
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 10:09:07 -0500 (EST)
Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:45:56 -0500 (EST)
Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:
No, because that'd be awful UI.
Is it
On 12/09/2014 11:01 AM, Christian Schaller wrote:
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From: Gerd Hoffmann kra...@redhat.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:22:01 AM
Subject: Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open
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From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:04:46 AM
Subject: Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall
Am 09.12.2014 um 15:57 schrieb Christian Schaller:
Well I think it is
Am 09.12.2014 um 16:40 schrieb Christian Schaller:
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To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:04:46 AM
Subject: Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall
Am 09.12.2014 um 15:57
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1163236
Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed:
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Depends On||1172210
Referenced
On 12/09/2014 10:11 AM, Bastien Nocera
wrote:
The defaults for the various products are "packaged" by zones. You just need
to change the firewalld zone to get whatever is the default on the server side.
Ok, so it's another item on my list of
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Hi,
Side Note: For the latter we need to cleanup the zones though. There
are *way* to many to choose from, and the names suck big
time. WTF is a Fedora$product zone? And wasn't that
discussed before on this list? Why do we *still* have this
On 12/08/2014 06:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
the security community is usually very clear:
* forbid as much as you can by default
* allow only what *really* is needed to get the work done
...and this is the tricky part---you want tightly defined functionality,
and other people want to install
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That's a good thing. Looking forward to seeing the new version made
available which now supports Python3. Thanks Michele!
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Hi all,
as per [1], I'd like to take over the orphaned python-mutagen package.
Let me know
On 9 December 2014 at 14:18, Brian Wheeler bdwhe...@indiana.edu wrote:
I also expect things to work with the minimum amount of fuss.
So do I! I'm a developer, which spin do I use so that the firewall
doesn't get in my way? We can't develop a *product* based around what
you specifically want, not
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:59 PM, William B will...@firstyear.id.au wrote:
The true crux of this issue is the over complexity that firewalld has brought
to fedora, and the fact that a quality UI for managing it does not exist yet.
OSX solves this issue by having an on or off button, and a
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On 12/09/2014 10:27 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:59 PM, William B will...@firstyear.id.au wrote:
The true crux of this issue is the over complexity that firewalld has
brought to fedora, and the fact that a quality UI for managing it does not
exist yet.
OSX solves
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos n...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 17:29 +1030, William B wrote:
I just happened to look at the firewalld default settings, and I
was not amused when I noticed this:
On 9 December 2014 at 10:27, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:59 PM, William B will...@firstyear.id.au
wrote:
The true crux of this issue is the over complexity that firewalld has
brought to fedora, and the fact that a quality UI for managing it does not
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On 09/12/14 18:39, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 9 December 2014 at 10:27, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com
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OS X's firewall is disabled by default. Where's the outcry?
It was a long time ago and it basically caused it to have extra
configurations before it could be 'ok'd'
On 12/09/2014 11:46 AM, Richard Hughes
wrote:
I don't think it makes much sense for people to stamp their feet
saying "BUT I LIKED THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS" when the people
leading the workstation product have identified that the old way of
doing things
On 9 December 2014 at 10:46, Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/12/14 18:39, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 9 December 2014 at 10:27, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com
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OS X's firewall is disabled by default. Where's the outcry?
It was a long time ago and it
On 09/12/14 18:53, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
In the end, this is a tempest in a teapot. The release is out and it is
done. I don't like it, but my yelling and screaming and spitting in an
autistic rage did not fix it so its time to move on so that is what I am
going to do.
Amen
--alec
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On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 19:06 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
Hi, folks. So after this morning's meeting, I worked today to implement
nightly build support in the mediawiki template magic and in relval. We
don't yet have the bits to listen out for composes, create the results
pages when anaconda
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 10:19 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
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Hi,
I also thought that the whole points of having Zones etc, was so that
we could pick a different zone per network connection,
/me too.
so if I'm in the office or at home I can say
On Dec 9, 2014 10:54 AM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9 December 2014 at 10:46, Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/12/14 18:39, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 9 December 2014 at 10:27, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com
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OS X's firewall is
Richard Hughes wrote:
So do I! I'm a developer, which spin do I use so that the firewall
doesn't get in my way? We can't develop a *product* based around what
you specifically want, not me, nor anyone else on this list.
If you're a developer, surely you know what a port is and can make a few
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Brendan Conoboy b...@redhat.com wrote:
On 12/04/2014 06:39 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
What do you think? Would this help towards the goals listed above?
Would it help _other_ things? What downsides would it bring?
It sounds a lot like releasing a new compose
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