Testers needed: KDE kcm_touchpad libinput support

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Hutterer
Please add this copr https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/whot/kcm_touchpad/ Please review this branch: https://github.com/whot/kcm_touchpad/tree/wip/libinput-support Please test this on F21 and F22 Please monitor and report issues in this bug here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-01-22 17:00 UTC) Followup:14 New:1

2015-01-21 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2015-01-22 1:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2015-01-22 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST 2015-01-22 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST 2015-01-22 17

rawhide report: 20150122 changes

2015-01-21 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Jan 22 00:45:02 UTC 2015 New package: gnome-2048-0.1.0-0.1.git83c5a4a.fc22 A 2048 clone for GNOME New package: gnome-taquin-3.15.4-1.fc22 Sliding-block puzzle game New package: golang-github-glacjay-goini-0-0.1.git5261baf.fc22 INI file

Re: Orphaning freefem++

2015-01-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "DM" == Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski writes: DM> I meant each new release of freefem++. The build process tries to DM> download sources for many external libraries and patches some of DM> them, so you have to work around it. Hmm. I looked at the patches and they don't look _too_ bad. I

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:00, Jan Zelený wrote: > Also I'd like to point out that if two packages offer the same provide, by > definition it means they are 100% exchangeable from the perspective of that > functionality. This is very, very wrong. Even minor differences in packaging and API c

another dnf problem

2015-01-21 Thread Neal Becker
I installed kernel* from updates-testing. Now I want to go back to distro-sync. Let's try it: sudo dnf distro-sync kernel* Error: problem with installed package kernel-3.17.7-300.local.fc21.x86_64. problem with installed package kernel-core-3.17.7-300.local.fc21.x86_64. problem with installed p

Re: {Help Wanted]How to fix dependency to perl(for)

2015-01-21 Thread J. Randall Owens
On 01/21/2015 03:23 PM, J. Randall Owens wrote: > On 01/21/2015 10:45 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: >> Hello, >> >> after I have built pgp-tools-1.1.10 I have to recorgnized, that there is >> a dependency to perl(for) which could not been resolved. >> >> Because I don't have any idea how to fix this is

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.01.2015 um 23:55 schrieb Yanko Kaneti: On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 12:26 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Igor Gnatenko < i.gnatenko.br...@gmail.com> wrote: + gnome-calendar btw gnome-2048 on review already FWIW this one is not complete; maybe it will be read

Re: Orphaning freefem++

2015-01-21 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
Hi, Jason. On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 23:46, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "DM" == Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski writes: > > DM> Dear Fedora Community, I'm orphaning the freefem++ package[1] since > DM> I don't have access to anyone that uses it and despite having an > DM> active up

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-21 Thread Yanko Kaneti
On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 12:26 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Igor Gnatenko < > i.gnatenko.br...@gmail.com> wrote: > > + gnome-calendar > > btw gnome-2048 on review already > FWIW this one is not complete; maybe it will be ready for GNOME > 3.16, but I would expe

Re: Orphaning freefem++

2015-01-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "DM" == Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski writes: DM> Dear Fedora Community, I'm orphaning the freefem++ package[1] since DM> I don't have access to anyone that uses it and despite having an DM> active upstream, it's a pain to get it to build with each new DM> release. Crap, I have people her

Re: Orphaning freefem++

2015-01-21 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
Dear Fedora Community, I'm orphaning the freefem++ package[1] since I don't have access to anyone that uses it and despite having an active upstream, it's a pain to get it to build with each new release. Also, I can hardly speak French. Nothing seems to depend on freefem++ directly. There are two

Re: {Help Wanted]How to fix dependency to perl(for)

2015-01-21 Thread J. Randall Owens
On 01/21/2015 10:45 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > Hello, > > after I have built pgp-tools-1.1.10 I have to recorgnized, that there is > a dependency to perl(for) which could not been resolved. > > Because I don't have any idea how to fix this issue, I hope there is anyone > out there which can give

Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2015-01-21)

2015-01-21 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 === #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-01-21) === Meeting started by dgilmore at 18:06:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/fesco.2

Re: Taskotron misses dropped subpackages

2015-01-21 Thread Tim Flink
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:00:00 +0100 Michael Schwendt wrote: > Taskotron doesn't notice if subpackages have been dropped and cause > unresolvable dependencies because they are not obsoleted anywhere. This isn't so much something that taskotron's checks missed as it's something we're not even check

Re: Python 3 as a Default - Status

2015-01-21 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015, at 08:22 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > Hi all, > since the "Python 3 as a Default" change [1] has been accepted a while ago > and is scheduled for F22, I'd like to share with you the status. > > The proposed change [1] mentions several goals that should be reached to > prono

Re: IntelliJ

2015-01-21 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 01/21/2015 07:06 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: >> In any case you may add IntelliJ to Java SIG package wishlist [2] or ask >> for volounteers on java-devel mailing list. > > I've tried to add it to the page, but for some reason the wiki isn't > saving for me. It keeps bouncing me back to the edit pa

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: + gnome-calendar btw gnome-2048 on review already FWIW this one is not complete; maybe it will be ready for GNOME 3.16, but I would expect it to be included in GNOME 3.18 instead. I see it's already been packaged for Fedora, which is not

Re: IntelliJ

2015-01-21 Thread Greg Hellings
Thanks for the feedback, guys. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:55 PM, wrote: > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:40:18 -0500 > From: Corey Sheldon > To: Development discussions related to Fedora > > Subject: Re: IntelliJ > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="u

Re: {Help Wanted]How to fix dependency to perl(for)

2015-01-21 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > Hello, > > after I have built pgp-tools-1.1.10 I have to recorgnized, that there is > a dependency to perl(for) which could not been resolved. > > Because I don't have any idea how to fix this issue, I hope there is anyone > out there which

{Help Wanted]How to fix dependency to perl(for)

2015-01-21 Thread Jochen Schmitt
Hello, after I have built pgp-tools-1.1.10 I have to recorgnized, that there is a dependency to perl(for) which could not been resolved. Because I don't have any idea how to fix this issue, I hope there is anyone out there which can give me a hint to solve this issue. Best Regards: Jochen Schmi

Re: Python 3 as a Default - Status

2015-01-21 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On 21. 1. 2015 at 01:44:32, Haïkel wrote: > > Thanks for the heads-up. > > > > As for the cloud image, if we switch to yum, python-urlgrabber won't > > be needed anymore. > > Umm, yes, it will be - yum uses python-urlgrabber internally. Also worth > mentioning that

Re: Python 3 as a Default - Status

2015-01-21 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 08:22:25AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > Hi all, > > since the "Python 3 as a Default" change [1] has been accepted a while ago > > and is scheduled for F22, I'd like to share with you the status. > > > > The proposed change [1] mentions s

Planned Outage: Rebuild fedora-packages xapian db - 2015-01-21 18:00 UTC

2015-01-21 Thread Ralph Bean
There will be an outage of the 'fedora-packages' service starting at 2015-01-21 18:00 UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2015-01-21 18:00' Reason for outage:

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:46:48AM -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: > Actually, I've ran into a few cases now where upstream has removed > essential workflow features and I think we should make it clear to > upstream that we are deviating from them unless they re-focus on user > freedom. For example: [..

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-21 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Igor Gnatenko wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNOME3.16 Update GNOME to the latest upstream release, 3.16. ** Follow upstream module changes Actually,

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Enable Polyinstantiated /tmp and /var/tmp directories by default

2015-01-21 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 21.01.15 09:49, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> >> * Other developers: >> >> ** Add /tmp-inst and /var/tmp/tmp-inst to filesystem. (packagename: >> >> filesystem) >> >> ** Enable namespaces in /etc/security/namesp

Re: Ruby 2.2 landed in Rawhide

2015-01-21 Thread Ryan S. Brown
On 01/21/2015 03:17 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 20.1.2015 v 17:44 Jason Rist napsal(a): >> On 01/20/2015 08:01 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> Just heads up that Ruby 2.2 landed in Rawhide. We tried to rebuild every >>> package which depends on ruby-devel and libruby.so so most of

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split

2015-01-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 05:17:48PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > We have been there, we merged it back for many reasons, and do not > want to go back. This all sounds like a really bad idea and has no > support from my side. Duly noted :) If you have pointers for specific problems to look out for, I'

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split

2015-01-21 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdPackageSplit > > Change owner(s): Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > Split systemd-units out of the main systemd package > > == Detailed D

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:13:24 +0100 Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 11:02 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 21.1.2015 v 10:35 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Miroslav Suchý > > > wrote: > > >> On 01/21/2

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Bare Metal Installer for Fedora Atomic Host

2015-01-21 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:49:38 +0100 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Bare Metal Installer for Fedora Atomic > Host = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Bare_Metal_Atomic > > Change owner(s): Joe Brockmeier , Ian McLeod >

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Enable Polyinstantiated /tmp and /var/tmp directories by default

2015-01-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 21.01.15 09:49, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> * Other developers: > >> ** Add /tmp-inst and /var/tmp/tmp-inst to filesystem. (packagename: > >> filesystem) > >> ** Enable namespaces in /etc/security/namespace.conf (packagename: PAM) > >> ** Enable proper selinux context a

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Jan Zelený
-- snip -- > >> The onus in Fedora has _ALWAYS_ been to prove that the new feature is > >> complete and ready to replace the existing working solution, not for > >> everyone else to prove that it's not. > > > > I'm not so sure about that. Off the top of my head, I can think of > > rpm-4.12, UsrMo

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Tomas Mraz
On St, 2015-01-21 at 11:13 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > The onus in Fedora has _ALWAYS_ been to prove that the new feature is > complete and ready to replace the existing working solution, not for > everyone else to prove that it's not. Given the number of issues I see > reported with dnf regard

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-21)

2015-01-21 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '20

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/21/2015 03:47 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >> Any plans for local repository support in DNF. >> > >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991014 > Good that I did not saw that bug before I switched mock to dnf locally. > > This is how I use local repo (created with createrepo) wit

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Enable Polyinstantiated /tmp and /var/tmp directories by default

2015-01-21 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 01/20/2015 07:29 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 20.01.15 12:53, Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Enable Polyinstantiated /tmp and /var/tmp >> directories by default = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Polyinstantiated_tmp_by_Defau

Anyone else see Rawhide losing network connection exactly 1 hour after boot?

2015-01-21 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
$SUBJECT? Originally this happened with a log message saying: avahi-daemon[878]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.0.138 on br0. I then masked everything related to avahi, and now the exact same thing happens (losing network after exactly one hour), but there is no log message. I don't e

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 21.01.2015 o 13:22, Sudhir Khanger pisze: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: >> Name them please. Or better yet, report them. > > Any plans for local repository support in DNF. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991014 Good that I did not saw that bug befor

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-21 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNOME3.16 > > Change owner(s): Kalev Lember > > Update GNOME to the latest upstream release, 3.16. > > == Detailed Description == > The new features for 3

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/21/2015 01:31 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > If they build with yum why is it a bug in the packaging? It is similar as those times when x86_64 was added. My package fails on x86_64, but succeed on i386 so it must be compiler problem. :) -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Senior Software

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
>> >> > Name them please. Or better yet, report them. >> >> >> >> Any plans for local repository support in DNF. >> >> >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991014 >> > >> > Yes, porting plugins from yum-utils is high on our priority list. Most of >> > the plugins will be ported over th

F22 Self Contained Change: qtile

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: qtile = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/qtile Change owner(s): John Dulaney qtile is a tiling window manager written in python. More can be found at the project's website [1]. == Detailed Description == Once qtile 0.9 is released upstream, package it fo

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
>> Isn't it? In the build system I suspect you'd either get: >> 1) a failed build >> 2) a package without ruby features >> 3) something unexpected >> >> It might not be a show stopper for a standard package install but it >> is for reproducible builds > > Why wouldn't you get reproducible builds? T

F22 Self Contained Change: Tunir

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Tunir = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/tunir Change owner(s): Kushal Das Tunir is a self contained CI Continuous Integration [1] which will be used to test Fedora Cloud images nightly. This tool can be used separately by any developer in their Fedora 2

Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-01-21)

2015-01-21 Thread Honza Horak
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2015-01-21) Meeting started by hhorak at 12:00:42 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-21/env-and-stacks.2015-01-21-12

F22 Self Contained Change: Local Test Cloud

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Local Test Cloud = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Local_Test_Cloud Change owner(s): Mike Ruckman testCloud [1] is a small tool to download and boot cloud images locally. == Detailed Description == testCloud was created because manually booting a cloud

gsoap updated in rawhide

2015-01-21 Thread Mattias Ellert
Hi! The gsoap package has been updated to version 2.8.21 in rawhide. Dependent packages should rebuild: CGSI-gSOAP (*) davix fts glite-lbjp-common-gsoap-plugin glite-lb-server gridsite lcgdm lcgdm-dav srm-ifce voms (*) (*) These I am maintainer for and rebuilds have been done already. M

F22 System Wide Change: Vagrant Box for Fedora Atomic and Fedora Cloud

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Vagrant Box for Fedora Atomic and Fedora Cloud = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Vagrant_Box_Atomic Change owner(s): Joe Brockmeier , Ian McLeod , Langdon White To produce Vagrant boxes based on the Fedora Atomic Host and Fedora Cloud flavors so that user

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos > wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 12:10 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> > I'd like to propose an amendment to allow > >> > bringing packages even if no reviewers are available (the typical case). > >> > > >> >

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Jan Zelený
On 21. 1. 2015 at 13:42:01, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> Dne 21.1.2015 v 12:34 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > >>> Are we expected to cross referencing previous logs to see if there's > >>> chang

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Enable Polyinstantiated /tmp and /var/tmp directories by default

2015-01-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 21.01.15 14:34, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala (huzai...@redhat.com) wrote: > On 01/20/2015 05:59 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > Well, /tmp is used by X11 among other for IPC across user > > boundaries. If you give each other their private instance of it, > > they cannot use this for comm

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 12:10 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> > I'd like to propose an amendment to allow >> > bringing packages even if no reviewers are available (the typical case). >> > >> > Step 6: ... If the proposed package is not

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Jan Zelený
On 21. 1. 2015 at 12:44:38, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: > > On 21. 1. 2015 at 17:52:09, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: > >> > Name them please. Or better yet, report them. > >> > >> Any plans for local

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Jan Zelený
-- snip -- > > 1) It is not show stopper > > Isn't it? In the build system I suspect you'd either get: > 1) a failed build > 2) a package without ruby features > 3) something unexpected > > It might not be a show stopper for a standard package install but it > is for reproducible builds Why wou

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: > On 21. 1. 2015 at 17:52:09, Sudhir Khanger wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: >> > Name them please. Or better yet, report them. >> >> Any plans for local repository support in DNF. >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/s

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
>> >> I really wonder what is the state here. This is on my rawhide: >> > We strongly believe all the major problems will be resolved in time. Also, >> > as of last week we have one person dedicated to helping people with >> > porting their application and the rest of the developers focus mainly on

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Jan Zelený
On 21. 1. 2015 at 17:52:09, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: > > Name them please. Or better yet, report them. > > Any plans for local repository support in DNF. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991014 Yes, porting plugins from yum-utils

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 21.1.2015 v 12:34 Peter Robinson napsal(a): >>> Are we expected to cross referencing previous logs to see if there's >>> changes or if it's the same and provide you that informatio

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: > On 21. 1. 2015 at 11:13:28, Peter Robinson wrote: >> > But I'm really interested in state of DNF as default too. Should I >> > switch mock to use DNF as default? For me there is still lot of >> > unfinished tasks. E.g. documenting w

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Jan Zelený
On 21. 1. 2015 at 11:07:31, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> > 1) DNF will be the default package manager for F22 [2], so everything > >> > is > >> > ok here. > >> > >> I really wonder what is the state here. This is on my rawhide: > > We strongly believe all the major problems will be resolved in time.

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 21.1.2015 v 12:34 Peter Robinson napsal(a): >> Are we expected to cross referencing previous logs to see if there's >> changes or if it's the same and provide you that information? We >> already have too much to do so it's easier to stick

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> But I'm really interested in state of DNF as default too. Should I >> switch mock to use DNF as default? >> For me there is still lot of unfinished tasks. E.g. documenting what >> --installroot should actually do [BZ 1163

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: > Name them please. Or better yet, report them. Any plans for local repository support in DNF. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991014 -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger, sudhirkhanger.com, github.com/donniezazen, 5577 8CDB A059 085D 1D60

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-21 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 12:10 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > I'd like to propose an amendment to allow > > bringing packages even if no reviewers are available (the typical case). > > > > Step 6: ... If the proposed package is not reviewed for 2 months, the > > package must be reviewed by the submitte

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Jan Zelený
On 21. 1. 2015 at 11:13:28, Peter Robinson wrote: > > But I'm really interested in state of DNF as default too. Should I > > switch mock to use DNF as default? For me there is still lot of > > unfinished tasks. E.g. documenting what --installroot should actually > > do [BZ 1163028]>

F22 System Wide Change: Bare Metal Installer for Fedora Atomic Host

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Bare Metal Installer for Fedora Atomic Host = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Bare_Metal_Atomic Change owner(s): Joe Brockmeier , Ian McLeod To produce a bare metal installer suitable for installing Fedora Atomic Host 22 on "bare metal" (e.g., directly on

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 21.1.2015 v 12:34 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > Are we expected to cross referencing previous logs to see if there's > changes or if it's the same and provide you that information? We > already have too much to do so it's easier to stick with yum where we > know what the outcome is. Sorry, not go

F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNOME3.16 Change owner(s): Kalev Lember Update GNOME to the latest upstream release, 3.16. == Detailed Description == The new features for 3.16 include: * Notification redesign in gnome-shell [1] * Improvements

Re: libicu upgrade to 54.1 with soname bump in rawhide

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi, > > I plan to upgrade libicu to 54.1 in rawhide end of this week or next > week, which as usual comes with a soname bump. David Tardon will help > with rebuilding the dependent packages. Will you be doing this in a side tag and then getti

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 21.1.2015 v 12:04 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > But I'm really interested in state of DNF as default too. Should I switch > mock to use DNF as default? > For me there is still lot of unfinished tasks. E.g. documenting what

F22 System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdPackageSplit Change owner(s): Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek Split systemd-units out of the main systemd package == Detailed Description == Systemd contains many binaries and depends on a fairly l

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 21.1.2015 v 12:04 Peter Robinson napsal(a): But I'm really interested in state of DNF as default too. Should I switch mock to use DNF as default? For me there is still lot of unfinished tasks. E.g. documenting what --installroot should actually do [BZ 1163028] >>> I don't

libicu upgrade to 54.1 with soname bump in rawhide

2015-01-21 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, I plan to upgrade libicu to 54.1 in rawhide end of this week or next week, which as usual comes with a soname bump. David Tardon will help with rebuilding the dependent packages. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GPG key "ID" 0x65632D3A

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-21 Thread Matthias Runge
On 21/01/15 11:49, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > I don't have a solution to bring extra resources to reviewing (which > will be the ideal), but I'd like to propose an amendment to allow > bringing packages even if no reviewers are available (the typical case). > > Step 6: ... If the proposed p

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
> But I'm really interested in state of DNF as default too. Should I switch > mock to use DNF as default? > For me there is still lot of unfinished tasks. E.g. documenting what > --installroot should actually do [BZ 1163028] I don't think it's ready, it might be useful to hav

F22 System Wide Change: python-dateutil 2.x

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: python-dateutil 2.x = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/python-dateutil_2.x Change owner(s): Pete Travis , Stephen Gallagher The package providing `dateutil` python libraries is currently on version 1.5. Early releases in the 2.x series of python-dateutil w

Re: amending the new package process

2015-01-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 21.1.2015 v 11:49 Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos napsal(a): > I'd like to propose an amendment to allow > bringing packages even if no reviewers are available (the typical case). > > Step 6: ... If the proposed package is not reviewed for 2 months, the > package must be reviewed by the submitter, and

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
>> > 1) DNF will be the default package manager for F22 [2], so everything is >> > ok here. >> I really wonder what is the state here. This is on my rawhide: > > We strongly believe all the major problems will be resolved in time. Also, as > of last week we have one person dedicated to helping peop

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-21 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Lubomir, On Friday, 2015-01-16 15:39:42 +0100, Lubomir Rintel wrote: > > Remote users would not be allowed to login using 'root' account with a > > password. They would have to login using an SSH key or first connect > > using a non-root account and then upgrade their privileges via sudo(8) >

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
>>> But I'm really interested in state of DNF as default too. Should I switch >>> mock to use DNF as default? >>> For me there is still lot of unfinished tasks. E.g. documenting what >>> --installroot should actually do [BZ 1163028] >> I don't think it's ready, it might be useful to have an optio

F22 Self Contained Change: Ipsilon

2015-01-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Ipsilon = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ipsilon Change owner(s): Patrick Uiterwijk , Simo Sorce Inclusion of Ipsilon in the Fedora repositories. == Detailed Description == The goal is to include the Ipsilon identity provider [1] into Fedora. Ipsilon

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 21.1.2015 v 11:13 Mathieu Bridon napsal(a): > On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 11:02 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 21.1.2015 v 10:35 Peter Robinson napsal(a): >>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 01/21/2015 09:33 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > It is surprising to see so man

Re: Taskotron misses dropped subpackages

2015-01-21 Thread Kamil Paral
> Taskotron doesn't notice if subpackages have been dropped and cause > unresolvable dependencies because they are not obsoleted anywhere. Yes, depcheck doesn't currently handle that. I've created: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T384 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

amending the new package process

2015-01-21 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Hi, I've added few packages last year using the new package process: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/New_package_process_for_existing_contributors I'm not sure which fedora body (FPC or FESCO) is responsible for this document, that's why that mail is sent here. In all cases, I'm interested on othe

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 11:02 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 21.1.2015 v 10:35 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >> On 01/21/2015 09:33 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >>> It is surprising to see so many packges depending on yum. Yes, there is > >>> stu

Re: Bodhi policy for pushing updates to stable

2015-01-21 Thread Kamil Paral
> Hi all. > > When upgrading F20 to F21 using FedUp, some users had a problem > with some packages not being upgraded (e.g. [1]). The problem was > caused by broken update path F20 -> F21. Just a note: That problem is even more complex. Fedora Branched some has freeze periods, when you can't pus

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 21.1.2015 v 10:57 Jan Zelený napsal(a): > On 21. 1. 2015 at 09:33:31, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 20.1.2015 v 14:22 Bohuslav Kabrda napsal(a): >>> 1) DNF will be the default package manager for F22 [2], so everything is >>> ok here. >> I really wonder what is the state here. This is on my rawhide

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 21.1.2015 v 10:35 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> On 01/21/2015 09:33 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >>> It is surprising to see so many packges depending on yum. Yes, there is >>> stuff like rpm-build and mock, >> And mock can live without yum. If

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Jan Zelený
On 21. 1. 2015 at 09:33:31, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 20.1.2015 v 14:22 Bohuslav Kabrda napsal(a): > > 1) DNF will be the default package manager for F22 [2], so everything is > > ok here. > I really wonder what is the state here. This is on my rawhide: We strongly believe all the major problems wi

Re: Python 3 as a Default - Status

2015-01-21 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 08:22:25AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > Hi all, > since the "Python 3 as a Default" change [1] has been accepted a while ago > and is scheduled for F22, I'd like to share with you the status. > > The proposed change [1] mentions several goals that should be reached to

Re: Python 3 as a Default - Status

2015-01-21 Thread Jan Zelený
On 21. 1. 2015 at 01:44:32, Haïkel wrote: > Thanks for the heads-up. > > As for the cloud image, if we switch to yum, python-urlgrabber won't > be needed anymore. Umm, yes, it will be - yum uses python-urlgrabber internally. Also worth mentioning that yum itself is not Python 3 compatible. Than

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > On 01/21/2015 09:33 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> It is surprising to see so many packges depending on yum. Yes, there is >> stuff like rpm-build and mock, > > And mock can live without yum. If we only had weak deps allowed in Fedora > mock.spe

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/21/2015 09:33 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > It is surprising to see so many packges depending on yum. Yes, there is > stuff like rpm-build and mock, And mock can live without yum. If we only had weak deps allowed in Fedora mock.spec would have Recommends: yum But I'm really interested in stat

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Harden all packages with position-independent code

2015-01-21 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/19/2015 04:17 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: As far as I can tell, OLPC does not ship newer Fedora releases through their updater, so what we do in Fedora does not make any difference at all to OLPC users. >>> >>> That's not entirely correct, they don't yet have F-21 but

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Jakub Filak
On Wednesday 21 of January 2015 09:33:31 Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 20.1.2015 v 14:22 Bohuslav Kabrda napsal(a): > > 1) DNF will be the default package manager for F22 [2], so everything is > > ok here. > I really wonder what is the state here. This is on my rawhide: ... > It is surprising to see so

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Enable Polyinstantiated /tmp and /var/tmp directories by default

2015-01-21 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
On 01/20/2015 05:59 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Well, /tmp is used by X11 among other for IPC across user > boundaries. If you give each other their private instance of it, > they cannot use this for communication anymore. You are breaking > X11 this way. Did you read the attached referenc

Re: DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/01/15 08:33, Vít Ondruch wrote: It is surprising to see so many packges depending on yum. Yes, there is stuff like rpm-build and mock, but why ABRT, plenty of perl and python modules, etc. Well according to the manual page clean_requirements_on_remove defaults to enabled, which means it

DNF as default package manager

2015-01-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 20.1.2015 v 14:22 Bohuslav Kabrda napsal(a): > 1) DNF will be the default package manager for F22 [2], so everything is ok > here. I really wonder what is the state here. This is on my rawhide: # dnf remove yum Dependencies resolved. =

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