Re: Draft privilege escalation policy for comments

2010-01-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > I think it's sensible, yeah. It's not really much bureaucracy; I don't > think it would ever be a good idea to introduce a new privilege > escalation mechanism without FESco knowing about it... Right now we're in a phase where a lot of stuff (system-config-*, several part

Re:How to take ownership of a package in rawhide branch? - Was: [Taking ownership of the orphaned packages: bytelist, jcodings, jvyamlb]

2010-01-30 Thread Chen Lei
those packages were deprecated, so it should be reopened by cvs admin by you can take ownership. regards, Chen Lei 在2010-01-31?11:48:44,"Victor?Vasilyev"??写道: >I'm?trying?to?complete?the?step?3?of?the?"Claiming?Ownership?of?an? >Orphaned?Package?Procedure"?[1]?that?says: >"3.?Press?the?"Take?

How to take ownership of a package in rawhide branch? - Was: [Taking ownership of the orphaned packages: bytelist, jcodings, jvyamlb]

2010-01-30 Thread Victor Vasilyev
I'm trying to complete the step 3 of the "Claiming Ownership of an Orphaned Package Procedure" [1] that says: "3. Press the "Take Ownership" button for each active branch that you want to maintain." However, I don't see such buttons associated with the rawhide for all mentioned packages, i.e. b

Taking ownership of the orphaned packages: bytelist, jcodings, jvyamlb

2010-01-30 Thread Victor Vasilyev
Hi All, The NetBeans 6.8 [1] depends on some Java libraries whose packages have been marked as orphaned [2]. To resolve the issue and provide the feature in-time I'd like to take ownership of the following packages: - bytelist - Review Request #560169 [3] - jcodings - Review Request #560170 [4]

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 14:00 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: > On 01/30/2010 01:53 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 11:36 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Braden McDaniel wrote: > >> > >>> On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 14:48 +0800, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed firefo

Re: Would you use a programming language with missing features?

2010-01-30 Thread Milos Jakubicek
On 31.1.2010 01:24, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > > Anyway, the discussion was good and maybe it is useful to other people too. > :) Well, really: if you want to change something, file the bugreport, or get in touch with relevant maintainers. I'm not a tcl/tk/python expert, but if you think that yo

Re: Would you use a programming language with missing features?

2010-01-30 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Haïkel Guémar wrote: > Le 30/01/2010 18:05, Paulo Cavalcanti a écrit : > > It is not a pleasant situation when your code does not work because > > the programming language does not do what it is supposed to. > > > > I am not raising any kind of rant here. I am jus

Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-30 Thread John Reiser
> How far away do we appear to be from having an installable rawhide? I have created a Fedora 13 x86_64 install DVD from today's rawhide (Sat.Jan.30), installed it onto a vanilla clone box, and it runs for me. The installation process clobbered the Master Boot Record even though I asked it not to.

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/30/2010 05:37 PM, Mat Booth wrote: > Maybe but I agree with Braden: I don't think it's worth it. Seems like > a lot of extra work for not a lot of gain. > I much prefer chrome and use it preferentially now anyway ... I'd prefer we put any broswer related energy into chromium - it is alre

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Mat Booth
On 30 January 2010 20:04, Mail Lists wrote: > On 01/30/2010 02:54 PM, Mat Booth wrote: > >> Well there's the Java and Totem plugins at least, but there's a whole >> slew of apps in Fedora that build against xulrunner: > >  I think we need to use sun java as green tea is not yet on new api > anyway

Re: Draft privilege escalation policy for comments

2010-01-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 08:33 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > Please do provide any and all feedback on the proposed policy. if we can > > get it into a shape which most people on the list would find acceptable, > > my next step will be to take it back to FESco for them to re

Re: Would you use a programming language with missing features?

2010-01-30 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 30/01/2010 18:05, Paulo Cavalcanti a écrit : > It is not a pleasant situation when your code does not work because > the programming language does not do what it is supposed to. > > I am not raising any kind of rant here. I am just pointing that there is > a problem > that could have been alrea

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/30/2010 02:54 PM, Mat Booth wrote: > Well there's the Java and Totem plugins at least, but there's a whole > slew of apps in Fedora that build against xulrunner: I think we need to use sun java as green tea is not yet on new api anyway is it? > > repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps xulru

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Mat Booth
On 30 January 2010 19:00, Mail Lists wrote: > On 01/30/2010 01:53 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 11:36 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: >>> Braden McDaniel wrote: >>> On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 14:48 +0800, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed firefox was stuck on 3.

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/01/10 08:42, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: > So it doesn't have an official one? > Not in F12, but as has been said. You can update to 3.6 from Rawhide, then disable rawhide again. Which is what I have done, no problems yet. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing list devel@l

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Christopher Brown
On 30 January 2010 06:48, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed firefox was stuck on 3.5.6 for a rather long time. > What about 3.5.7 and the recently 3.6? They are even not in koji. This is because 3.5.7 doesn't affect us. Stability issue is for Windows people and update notification is pat

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/30/2010 01:53 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: > On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 11:36 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Braden McDaniel wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 14:48 +0800, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: Hi, I noticed firefox was stuck on 3.5.6 for a rather long time. What about 3.5.7 and

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 11:36 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > Braden McDaniel wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 14:48 +0800, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I noticed firefox was stuck on 3.5.6 for a rather long time. > >> What about 3.5.7 and the recently 3.6? They are even not in koji. > >

Re: Beware: Thunderbird (ver 3.0.1) CORRUPTS all email state

2010-01-30 Thread Christopher Brown
On 28 January 2010 22:58, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Steve Dickson writes: > >> I guess I have a different definition of crap... ;-) >> >> I have been on both sides of these bugs... So I know (the hard way) >> when you push something out that breaks existing configurations, its crap! > > If you need

Orphan ircd-hybrid

2010-01-30 Thread Eric Tanguy
I need to orphan ircd-hybrid because i don't use it anymore and i don't have time to correct open bugs. Thanks Eric -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Rex Dieter
Braden McDaniel wrote: > On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 14:48 +0800, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I noticed firefox was stuck on 3.5.6 for a rather long time. >> What about 3.5.7 and the recently 3.6? They are even not in koji. > > xulrunner-1.9.2 breaks API compatibility with 1.9.1, so downstream

Re: AWOL Maintainer: John T. Guthrie III

2010-01-30 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 30.01.2010, 18:25 +0100 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > Seems like Fred Guthrie is AWOL. Of course this should read "John". Sorry Fred! Regards, Christoph -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

AWOL Maintainer: John T. Guthrie III

2010-01-30 Thread Christoph Wickert
Seems like Fred Guthrie is AWOL. He did not respond to bugs since 2009-07-20: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512660 I started the AWOL procedure already back in October, but it slipped of my radar: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514882 John owns 18 packages in total: ht

rawhide report: 20100130 changes

2010-01-30 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Jan 30 08:15:05 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- armstrong-0.2.6-8.fc12.i686 requires libporttime.so.0 doodle-0.6.7-5.fc12.i686 requires libextractor.so.1 easystroke-0.5.2-1.fc13.i686 requires li

Re: best practice for packing programs that use strlcpy()?

2010-01-30 Thread shmuel siegel
On 1/29/2010 4:50 AM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On 01/28/2010 09:32 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > >> What is considered the best practice for packaging a program that uses >> strlcpy()? >> > Besides patching it to not use strlcpy? :) > Is there a reason (from a programming point of view)

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 14:48 +0800, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed firefox was stuck on 3.5.6 for a rather long time. > What about 3.5.7 and the recently 3.6? They are even not in koji. xulrunner-1.9.2 breaks API compatibility with 1.9.1, so downstream packages would need patching for

Re: Would you use a programming language with missing features?

2010-01-30 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Milos Jakubicek wrote: > On 30.1.2010 14:29, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > > >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-August/msg00462.html >> >> I am not saying the points raised in the above link are not important, but >> the solution is pretty obvio

Re: Draft privilege escalation policy for comments

2010-01-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Well, reboot is a one-time operation; if there's only one user logged > in, they can only affect themselves by rebooting. Adjusting the clock or > installing new software isn't the same. Ok, actually "one time" feels like there's a more

Re: Would you use a programming language with missing features?

2010-01-30 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 30/01/2010 14:29, Paulo Cavalcanti a écrit : > The first one is python. The GUI provided with python is called tkinter, > which is based on tk, which, in turn, is based on tcl. Since threads are > disabled in Fedora's tcl, > as a consequence, one cannot use python+tkinter+threads. > Tkinter is

Re: Would you use a programming language with missing features?

2010-01-30 Thread Milos Jakubicek
On 30.1.2010 14:29, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-August/msg00462.html > > I am not saying the points raised in the above link are not important, but > the solution is pretty obvious to me. Obviously it isn't if you looked at the BZ link in the a

Re: Would you use a programming language with missing features?

2010-01-30 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:29:09 -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote > The first one is python. The GUI provided with python is called > tkinter, which is based on tk, which, in turn, is based on tcl. Since > threads are disabled in Fedora's tcl, > as a consequence, one cannot use python+tkinter+thread

Would you use a programming language with missing features?

2010-01-30 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
I always say one should not blame the system (OS, language, whatever) for his/her programming mistakes. Unfortunately, Fedora has presently two programming languages with missing features, and the user maybe completely unaware of this. The first one is python. The GUI provided with python is call

No mouse + keyb in X in latest rawhide + fix (selinux)

2010-01-30 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, This might be a dup, and I'm a bit under the weather so in no mood to search BZ. Anyways for other people who might hit this if your mouse and keyb in X in rawhide all of a sudden are gone, this is due to haldaemon not starting, which is caused by some selinux issue. Setting selinux to permiss

Re: Fast-track Nonresponsive maintainer: Frank Büttner (frankb)

2010-01-30 Thread Alexander Kahl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2010 11:51 AM, Frank Büttner wrote: > Am 30.01.2010 11:23, schrieb Alexander Kahl: >> Hi Frank, >> >> On 01/30/2010 10:59 AM, Frank Büttner wrote: >>> until bug #479556 is not fixed, I can't build anything. >>> And the maintainer of mock seem

Re: Draft privilege escalation policy for comments

2010-01-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 10:52 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:27:13PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Please do provide any and all feedback on the proposed policy. if we can > > get it into a shape which most people on the list would find acceptable, > > my next step will b

Re:Re: Fast-track Nonresponsive m aintainer: Frank Büttner (frankb)

2010-01-30 Thread Chen Lei
Hi Frank, As you said using the test machines was not an option because of low uploads of you ISP, do you need some co-maintainers to help your maintaining packages before you solve mock problem? Most of your packages now need update for bugfix since the lastest build submitted by you is from

Re: Fast-track Nonresponsive maintainer: Frank Büttner (frankb)

2010-01-30 Thread Frank Büttner
Am 30.01.2010 11:23, schrieb Alexander Kahl: > Hi Frank, > > On 01/30/2010 10:59 AM, Frank Büttner wrote: >> until bug #479556 is not fixed, I can't build anything. >> And the maintainer of mock seem don't do anything to fix it. >> I don't know why. But for my last post I don't get any response. >

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread M A Young
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Wes Shull wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: So it doesn't have an official one? I've been running the f13 build out of rawhide for a week now, and it's worked fine for me...  not sure about Java though. yum --enablerepo=rawhide update f

Re: Fast-track Nonresponsive maintainer: Frank Büttner (frankb)

2010-01-30 Thread Alexander Kahl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Frank, On 01/30/2010 10:59 AM, Frank Büttner wrote: > until bug #479556 is not fixed, I can't build anything. > And the maintainer of mock seem don't do anything to fix it. > I don't know why. But for my last post I don't get any response. why don'

Re: Fast-track Nonresponsive maintainer: Frank B??ttner (frankb)

2010-01-30 Thread Frank B??ttner
Am 30.01.2010 10:47, schrieb Chen Lei: > Hi all, > > Frank B??ttner seems reluctant to be responsive. > > I fixed one FTBFS bug assigned to him in qtiplot. > > I posted a non responsive maintainer tracker bug, but he closed soon and was > reluctant to explain anymore. > See https://bugzilla.re

Re: Draft privilege escalation policy for comments

2010-01-30 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:27:13PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Please do provide any and all feedback on the proposed policy. if we can > get it into a shape which most people on the list would find acceptable, > my next step will be to take it back to FESco for them to review. > Thanks. I do

Fast-track Nonresponsive maintainer: Frank Büttner (frankb)

2010-01-30 Thread Chen Lei
Hi all, Frank Büttner seems reluctant to be responsive. I fixed one FTBFS bug assigned to him in qtiplot. I posted a non responsive maintainer tracker bug, but he closed soon and was reluctant to explain anymore. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557424 ?And he was total non-resp

Re: best practice for packing programs that use strlcpy()?

2010-01-30 Thread Eric Smith
I guess I should have known that this would open a can of worms. I'm NOT trying to advocate that anyone write new software using strlcpy() etc. I'm NOT trying to claim that these functions are "safe" or better than the alternatives. I'm only trying to support the porting of existing BSD packa

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Wes Shull
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: > So it doesn't have an official one? I've been running the f13 build out of rawhide for a week now, and it's worked fine for me... not sure about Java though. yum --enablerepo=rawhide update firefox --wes (f12-x86_64) -- devel mailing

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Liu Yu Fei Eric
So it doesn't have an official one? On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: > > I noticed firefox was stuck on 3.5.6 for a rather long time. > > What about 3.5.7 and the recently 3.6? They are even not in koji. > > http://blog.famillecollet.com/post/2010/01/2