Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart
On 06/17/2011 11:30 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: The actual Linus rule is that if it breaks user stuff it must be fixed now or it will be reverted. Which is not impossible If we know about the bugs we can fix them. This bug was only reported after the release. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: why does my systemd-services not work?
On 06/17/2011 02:05 AM, Bob Arendt wrote: mpd forks and daemonizes itself, so the main pid dies. There is a misunderstanding about what main PID means. It is not the PID of the original process which forks and then exits. It should be the PID of the process of the running daemon. The one that gets written to the PID file. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart
Am 17.06.2011 08:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 06/17/2011 11:30 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: The actual Linus rule is that if it breaks user stuff it must be fixed now or it will be reverted. Which is not impossible If we know about the bugs we can fix them. This bug was only reported after the release. a needed TWO WEEKS to go in updates-testing, this is way roo long for such a major bug preventing the user from booting the system and it takes time until it is for normal users in stable repos too! why this is a bug in util-linux i do not undertsand because mount /mnt/storage/ works - in the fstab is /jmnt/storage/ so why in the world is systemd calling mount without the trailing slash? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
Adam Williamson wrote: This is a common misapprehension, but it's not true. The reason for the large icon grid is actually that the developers did real world user research (yes, really!) and found that many people had significant trouble navigating the typical Windows / GNOME 2 nested menu system full of wide-but-short entries. They would lose levels in the nesting by moving the mouse a bit wrong. They would launch the wrong thing because the target area was too short. This was especially pronounced with poor pointing devices - particularly cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. The Giant Grid O' Icons is navigable with a much higher success rate. There are less radical solutions for these problems though, see e.g. KDE's Kickoff menu. (But I can't get used even to that, I use the classic menu which KDE Plasma also offers.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
Am 17.06.2011 03:59, schrieb Adam Williamson: On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 01:19 +0200, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: My impression is that GNOME3 is trying to compete with Android and FrontRow, but have forgotten all of us who still uses desktops/laptops. We don't have touch screens yet The reason for the large icon grid is actually that the developers did real world user research (yes, really!) The Giant Grid O' Icons is navigable with a much higher success rate so why in the world are the no simple options change such things? are you blind? as first question in the installer, really :-) in the mean time i had 4 medical operations on both eyes, on the right one i am missing a lense at this moment but this does nothing chnage in the HATE i get if a developer is wasting my space - this affetcs me as KDE user everytime i open a GTK/Gnome-App signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 10:56 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: This is a common misapprehension, but it's not true. The reason for the large icon grid is actually that the developers did real world user research (yes, really!) and found that many people had significant trouble navigating the typical Windows / GNOME 2 nested menu system full of wide-but-short entries. They would lose levels in the nesting by moving the mouse a bit wrong. They would launch the wrong thing because the target area was too short. This was especially pronounced with poor pointing devices - particularly cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. Rest assured, it is not ... esp. on cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. With Gnome3 you 1stly have to tick on Applications (located left top on the screen), then hit this tiny scroll bar located ca. 1 in/2cm left of the right screen (not an easy task - Requires travelling almost the whole screen), then to navigate down several pages to find the applications your are looking for. When doing so, you often you are getting lost in non-self explanatory icons, with cryptic icon-names without tool tips, i.e you are not finding the app you are looking for. When working inside of another window, you now 1st have to switch the screen (to the Application screen), where formerly a simple click into the toplevel menu was required. The Giant Grid O' Icons is navigable with a much higher success rate. I disagree - It's one of the aspects I am blaming Gnome 3 for to be lacking of SW ergonomy. A simple application pane is suitable for kiosk-style (smartphone) installations with only a very small set of apps installed, but is unsuitable for a multipurpose desktop with 100s or 1000s of apps installed (such as home installations or developers' installations). Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
Dne 17.6.2011 11:14, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): On 06/17/2011 10:56 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: This is a common misapprehension, but it's not true. The reason for the large icon grid is actually that the developers did real world user research (yes, really!) and found that many people had significant trouble navigating the typical Windows / GNOME 2 nested menu system full of wide-but-short entries. They would lose levels in the nesting by moving the mouse a bit wrong. They would launch the wrong thing because the target area was too short. This was especially pronounced with poor pointing devices - particularly cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. Rest assured, it is not ... esp. on cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. With Gnome3 you 1stly have to tick on Applications (located left top on the screen), then hit this tiny scroll bar located ca. 1 in/2cm left of the right screen (not an easy task - Requires travelling almost the whole screen), then to navigate down several pages to find the applications your are looking for. When doing so, you often you are getting lost in non-self explanatory icons, with cryptic icon-names without tool tips, i.e you are not finding the app you are looking for. When working inside of another window, you now 1st have to switch the screen (to the Application screen), where formerly a simple click into the toplevel menu was required. The workflow is: 1) Move the mouse to the to left corner (move is enough, you don't have to click. You even can drag and drop through activities, so learn to not click there.) 2) Type on the keyboard few character of the application name you want to run, e.g. cal and on your screen will be filtered Calculator and LibreOffice Calc 3) Click on the appropriate icon. Or alternatively: 1) Move the mouse to the to left corner (move is enough, you don't have to click. You even can drag and drop through activities, so learn to not click there.) 2) Click on your pined favorite application icon. If you go Application and try to find there you favorite app, then I have to congratulate to your patience. That was always the biggest pain of former DE to remember Oh, where is the terminal, is it in accessories, system management or other group? or Is the browser office application or internet?. To be honest, I don't care. The Giant Grid O' Icons is navigable with a much higher success rate. I disagree - It's one of the aspects I am blaming Gnome 3 for to be lacking of SW ergonomy. A simple application pane is suitable for kiosk-style (smartphone) installations with only a very small set of apps installed, but is unsuitable for a multipurpose desktop with 100s or 1000s of apps installed (such as home installations or developers' installations). Ralf May be you are not following the development of other desktops, but for example Windows 7 has the same principle. Open the start menu, type the application name and the filtered list appears. The only difference that windows shows by default icons of most favorite applications where in Gnome 3 you have pin them. But this is more or less similar to W7 taskbar on the other hand. So in conclusion it is not that surprising at the end, that W7 and G3 are pretty similar. Also the icons are getting bigger on both platforms. Vit -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[perl-Crypt-DSA] Created tag perl-Crypt-DSA-1.17-1.el6
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Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 11:36 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 17.6.2011 11:14, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): On 06/17/2011 10:56 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: This is a common misapprehension, but it's not true. The reason for the large icon grid is actually that the developers did real world user research (yes, really!) and found that many people had significant trouble navigating the typical Windows / GNOME 2 nested menu system full of wide-but-short entries. They would lose levels in the nesting by moving the mouse a bit wrong. They would launch the wrong thing because the target area was too short. This was especially pronounced with poor pointing devices - particularly cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. Rest assured, it is not ... esp. on cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. The workflow is: 1) Move the mouse to the to left corner (move is enough, you don't have to click. You even can drag and drop through activities, so learn to not click there.) Apart of the fact, track pad click are disabled by default in F15's Gnome3 (IMO: silly - They are enabled in Ubuntu), the click isn't my point. With Gnome3, if only using a mouse/trackpad/pointing device, you are travelling very long distances on screen - Much longer distances than in Gnome 2 - This is a problem with cheap trackpads (My F15 test system is a cheap, 1st generation atom-based netbook) May be you are not following the development of other desktops, but for example Windows 7 has the same principle. Correct. I am not using Windows nor Mac OS X. Open the start menu, type the application name and the filtered list appears. The only difference that windows shows by default icons of most favorite applications where in Gnome 3 you have pin them. But this is more or less similar to W7 taskbar on the other hand. So in conclusion it is not that surprising at the end, that W7 and G3 are pretty similar. Also the icons are getting bigger on both platforms. Well, it's obvious to me Gnome 3 is trying to immitate W7, OS X and iOS, but ... may-be you may want to think about why users are not using these and are using Linux instead? One of the reasons used to be the Gnome2 DE being different from these rsp. these other OSes not meeting this user's groups demands. In other words: IMO, due the way Gnome3 is taking, Gnome 3 has thrown away one of the key-advantages it had offered (and has become a W7 etc. immitation cult) and thus has become non-interesting to at least some Linux-users (e.g. me). That said, IMO, Gnome 3 should be added a classic GUI-design, with toplevel menus/cascaded, file-browser etc. To me personally, Gnome 3 is the primary cause for currently evalutating other distros and other DEs, and the primary (the secondary is systemd) cause for not upgrading to Fedora 15. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[perl-Config-IniFiles] Perl mass rebuild
commit ee15c1ea835b8cfde005f5a6e88aa963ab6dba15
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 11:56:36 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Config-IniFiles.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
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diff --git a/perl-Config-IniFiles.spec b/perl-Config-IniFiles.spec
index db92a29..cc6b71d 100644
--- a/perl-Config-IniFiles.spec
+++ b/perl-Config-IniFiles.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Config-IniFiles
Version:2.58
-Release:4%{?dist}
+Release:5%{?dist}
Summary:A module for reading .ini-style configuration files
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -53,6 +53,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 2.58-5
+- Perl mass rebuild
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* Thu Jun 09 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 2.58-4
- Perl 5.14 mass rebuild
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RE: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
The workflow is: 1) Move the mouse to the to left corner (move is enough, you don't have to click. You even can drag and drop through activities, so learn to not click there.) 2) Type on the keyboard few character of the application name you want to run, e.g. cal and on your screen will be filtered Calculator and LibreOffice Calc 3) Click on the appropriate icon. Or alternatively: 1) Move the mouse to the to left corner (move is enough, you don't have to click. You even can drag and drop through activities, so learn to not click there.) 2) Click on your pined favorite application icon. If you go Application and try to find there you favorite app, then I have to congratulate to your patience. That was always the biggest pain of former DE to remember Oh, where is the terminal, is it in accessories, system management or other group? or Is the browser office application or internet?. To be honest, I don't care. Since you recommend not using the application menu, in other words, you agree that the application menu is useless? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart
On 06/17/2011 02:13 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: a needed TWO WEEKS to go in updates-testing, this is way roo long for such a major bug preventing the user from booting the system and it takes time until it is for normal users in stable repos too! It is not a major bug since it is not common for people to put a trailing slash in the mount points. It was so uncommon that nobody even hit it until the release and unless a mount point is specifically marked as optional, it is expected behaviour that the system would stop booting on a failed mount and it is not mandatory for any update to stay in updates-testing for two weeks. If three testers to give positive feedback, then it can be pushed to stable immediately. Rahul Ps: As many people have already told you in the same thread, caps = shouting online and it is rude to do that. I request you to stop doing that -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 02:26 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: This is a common misapprehension, but it's not true. The reason for the large icon grid is actually that the developers did real world user research (yes, really!) and found that many people had significant trouble navigating the typical Windows / GNOME 2 nested menu system full of wide-but-short entries. They would lose levels in the nesting by moving the mouse a bit wrong. They would launch the wrong thing because the target area was too short. This was especially pronounced with poor pointing devices - particularly cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. The Giant Grid O' Icons is navigable with a much higher success rate. There are less radical solutions for these problems though, see e.g. KDE's Kickoff menu. (But I can't get used even to that, I use the classic menu which KDE Plasma also offers.) I wonder why you recommend solutions you can't even get used to. In terms of usability, it is not clear to me kickoff is doing a better job at all. It is a rather convoluted way of organizing menu items and I had to switch it off and use the classic menu instead. I have used both and I found the GNOME 3 menu interface more familiar and less radical in fact. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
Dne 17.6.2011 11:57, Henrik Wejdmark napsal(a): The workflow is: 1) Move the mouse to the to left corner (move is enough, you don't have to click. You even can drag and drop through activities, so learn to not click there.) 2) Type on the keyboard few character of the application name you want to run, e.g. cal and on your screen will be filtered Calculator and LibreOffice Calc 3) Click on the appropriate icon. Or alternatively: 1) Move the mouse to the to left corner (move is enough, you don't have to click. You even can drag and drop through activities, so learn to not click there.) 2) Click on your pined favorite application icon. If you go Application and try to find there you favorite app, then I have to congratulate to your patience. That was always the biggest pain of former DE to remember Oh, where is the terminal, is it in accessories, system management or other group? or Is the browser office application or internet?. To be honest, I don't care. Since you recommend not using the application menu, in other words, you agree that the application menu is useless? It is useful when you are looking for something and you don't know what exactly it is. In that case, it is much much better then the previous menus, because you have nice overview on one page and moreover you have the possibility to filter by groups for example. Vit -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
Since you recommend not using the application menu, in other words, you agree that the application menu is useless? It is useful when you are looking for something and you don't know what exactly it is. In that case, it is much much better then the previous menus, because you have nice overview on one page and moreover you have the possibility to filter by groups for example. On my desktop it's not on one page, it's a mile long listing so you get no overview at all. In Gnome2 at least all the apps are categorized. If the graphical user interface _requires_ you to use the keyboard to type the command it has failed it's task and we might as well go back to bash. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 03:50 PM, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: On my desktop it's not on one page, it's a mile long listing so you get no overview at all. In Gnome2 at least all the apps are categorized. If the graphical user interface _requires_ you to use the keyboard to type the command it has failed it's task and we might as well go back to bash. GNOME 3 menu has categories in the right as well but in any case, the common apps are in the dash and using a keyboard with a search as you type interface isn't the same as using bash. Let us not be dramatic. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 12:16 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 17.6.2011 11:57, Henrik Wejdmark napsal(a): It is useful when you are looking for something and you don't know what exactly it is. In that case, it is much much better then the previous menus, because you have nice overview on one page and moreover you have the possibility to filter by groups for example. I disgree. With F14/gnome2 you clicked on Applications, then moved the mouse down the menu and navigated through the submenues by hovering the cursor over them. When doing so, you were presented tooltips outlining the purpose of the apps. All this required the mouse/trackpad to move for only very small distances. With F15/gnome3 you are presented a pane of icons with non-self-explanatory names, stretched over many screen, no tooltips, etc. The distances a mouse had to move are much longer than they used to be. The symbol-grounding issues (Which group might the app I am searching for be classified under?) is basically the same in both approaches. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
GNOME 3 menu has categories in the right as well but in any case, the common apps are in the dash and using a keyboard with a search as you type interface isn't the same as using bash. Let us not be dramatic. Rahul As has been stated earlier in this thread, having the hot spot in the top left corner and categories far right causes a lot of mouse movements. Common apps in the dash only opens the first instance, after that it switches to the existing instance, effectively doubling the functionality from the activities window. I'll end my argument here, and Gnome3 is the reason I'm now evaluating other DEs and distros. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
Em Sex, 2011-06-17 às 11:55 +0200, Ralf Corsepius escreveu: On 06/17/2011 11:36 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 17.6.2011 11:14, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): On 06/17/2011 10:56 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: This is a common misapprehension, but it's not true. The reason for the large icon grid is actually that the developers did real world user research (yes, really!) and found that many people had significant trouble navigating the typical Windows / GNOME 2 nested menu system full of wide-but-short entries. They would lose levels in the nesting by moving the mouse a bit wrong. They would launch the wrong thing because the target area was too short. This was especially pronounced with poor pointing devices - particularly cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. Rest assured, it is not ... esp. on cheap trackpads on cheap laptops. The workflow is: 1) Move the mouse to the to left corner (move is enough, you don't have to click. You even can drag and drop through activities, so learn to not click there.) Apart of the fact, track pad click are disabled by default in F15's Gnome3 (IMO: silly - They are enabled in Ubuntu), the click isn't my point. With Gnome3, if only using a mouse/trackpad/pointing device, you are travelling very long distances on screen - Much longer distances than in Gnome 2 - This is a problem with cheap trackpads (My F15 test system is a cheap, 1st generation atom-based netbook) May be you are not following the development of other desktops, but for example Windows 7 has the same principle. Correct. I am not using Windows nor Mac OS X. Open the start menu, type the application name and the filtered list appears. The only difference that windows shows by default icons of most favorite applications where in Gnome 3 you have pin them. But this is more or less similar to W7 taskbar on the other hand. So in conclusion it is not that surprising at the end, that W7 and G3 are pretty similar. Also the icons are getting bigger on both platforms. Well, it's obvious to me Gnome 3 is trying to immitate W7, OS X and iOS, but ... may-be you may want to think about why users are not using these and are using Linux instead? One of the reasons used to be the Gnome2 DE being different from these rsp. these other OSes not meeting this user's groups demands. In other words: IMO, due the way Gnome3 is taking, Gnome 3 has thrown away one of the key-advantages it had offered (and has become a W7 etc. immitation cult) and thus has become non-interesting to at least some Linux-users (e.g. me). That said, IMO, Gnome 3 should be added a classic GUI-design, with toplevel menus/cascaded, file-browser etc. To me personally, Gnome 3 is the primary cause for currently evalutating other distros and other DEs, and the primary (the secondary is systemd) cause for not upgrading to Fedora 15. I'm not really sure I get what you're asking for here. GNOME 3 does have the classic (Win95-like) design installed by default and all you have to do is enable fallback mode in order to use it. In addition to that the GNOME Shell is highly customizable and you can have a traditional application menu right on the top menu bar if you'd like. You can check out the extensions available in Fedora, the ones here [1] and several others you can search on Google. The GNOME developers are also working on a website to make installing and managing extensions as easy as it is with Firefox. Evandro [1]. http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 15:50 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/17/2011 03:50 PM, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: On my desktop it's not on one page, it's a mile long listing so you get no overview at all. In Gnome2 at least all the apps are categorized. If the graphical user interface _requires_ you to use the keyboard to type the command it has failed it's task and we might as well go back to bash. GNOME 3 menu has categories in the right as well but in any case, the common apps are in the dash and using a keyboard with a search as you type interface isn't the same as using bash. Let us not be dramatic. Rahul Considering the frequent calls of Gnome 3 has failed at its task or the GUI has failed if the user must makes me wonder: Where is the task definition or specification against which the implementation has failed? Doesn't live up to my expectation is very different from Doesn't comply with spec and both are different from Is a bad design. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 12:20 +0200, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: Since you recommend not using the application menu, in other words, you agree that the application menu is useless? It is useful when you are looking for something and you don't know what exactly it is. In that case, it is much much better then the previous menus, because you have nice overview on one page and moreover you have the possibility to filter by groups for example. On my desktop it's not on one page, it's a mile long listing so you get no overview at all. In Gnome2 at least all the apps are categorized. If the graphical user interface _requires_ you to use the keyboard to type the command It doesn't require you to type the command. You can search for bro and among the results will be Nautilus and Firefox (hint: Gnome Shell also searches in the application description, and both are browsers). -- Mathieu -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 03:59 PM, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: As has been stated earlier in this thread, having the hot spot in the top left corner and categories far right causes a lot of mouse movements. Common apps in the dash only opens the first instance, after that it switches to the existing instance, effectively doubling the functionality from the activities window. I use Windows key and control + click for these things correspondingly. Middle click launches the app in a new workspace which is convenient as well I'll end my argument here, and Gnome3 is the reason I'm now evaluating other DEs and distros. You are free to do that. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Bug 714089] New: perl-FCGI-0.73 is available
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-FCGI-0.73 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714089 Summary: perl-FCGI-0.73 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: Unspecified OS/Version: Unspecified Status: NEW Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity: unspecified Priority: unspecified Component: perl-FCGI AssignedTo: cw...@alumni.drew.edu ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: cw...@alumni.drew.edu, fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Story Points: --- Latest upstream release: 0.73 Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 0.71 URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/FCGI/ Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy More information about the service that created this bug can be found at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 714088] New: perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.2.1 is available
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.2.1 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714088 Summary: perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.2.1 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: Unspecified OS/Version: Unspecified Status: NEW Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity: unspecified Priority: unspecified Component: perl-Fedora-Rebuild AssignedTo: ppi...@redhat.com ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com, ppi...@redhat.com, psab...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Story Points: --- Latest upstream release: 0.2.1 Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 0.0.1 URL: http://ppisar.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Rebuild/ Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy More information about the service that created this bug can be found at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 06:48:14PM +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 12:20 +0200, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: Since you recommend not using the application menu, in other words, you agree that the application menu is useless? It is useful when you are looking for something and you don't know what exactly it is. In that case, it is much much better then the previous menus, because you have nice overview on one page and moreover you have the possibility to filter by groups for example. On my desktop it's not on one page, it's a mile long listing so you get no overview at all. In Gnome2 at least all the apps are categorized. If the graphical user interface _requires_ you to use the keyboard to type the command It doesn't require you to type the command. You can search for bro and among the results will be Nautilus and Firefox (hint: Gnome Shell also searches in the application description, and both are browsers). I can't believe real usability testing was done on the final version of GNOME 3. I keep hearing about all these completely undiscoverable keyboard shortcuts that appear to be necessary to use GNOME 3 with any sort of effectiveness. When I struggled with GNOME 3 for about a week I didn't discover or use any keyboard shortcuts. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones New in Fedora 11: Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile Windows programs, test, and build Windows installers. Over 70 libraries supprt'd http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MinGW http://www.annexia.org/fedora_mingw -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
Dne 17.6.2011 12:29, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): On 06/17/2011 12:16 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 17.6.2011 11:57, Henrik Wejdmark napsal(a): It is useful when you are looking for something and you don't know what exactly it is. In that case, it is much much better then the previous menus, because you have nice overview on one page and moreover you have the possibility to filter by groups for example. I disgree. With F14/gnome2 you clicked on Applications, then moved the mouse down the menu and navigated through the submenues by hovering the cursor over them. When doing so, you were presented tooltips outlining the purpose of the apps. All this required the mouse/trackpad to move for only very small distances. With F15/gnome3 you are presented a pane of icons with non-self-explanatory names, stretched over many screen, no tooltips, etc. The distances a mouse had to move are much longer than they used to be. The symbol-grounding issues (Which group might the app I am searching for be classified under?) is basically the same in both approaches. Ralf Well if you don't know what you have installed in your computer, and especially if you have installed everything, because one cannot know when you will need it, and you have no keyboard, no mouse, no touchscreen, just crappy touchpad, then I agree and I am sorry, no modern DE can work for you. Vit -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 01:02 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 06:48:14PM +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 12:20 +0200, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: Since you recommend not using the application menu, in other words, you agree that the application menu is useless? It is useful when you are looking for something and you don't know what exactly it is. In that case, it is much much better then the previous menus, because you have nice overview on one page and moreover you have the possibility to filter by groups for example. On my desktop it's not on one page, it's a mile long listing so you get no overview at all. In Gnome2 at least all the apps are categorized. If the graphical user interface _requires_ you to use the keyboard to type the command It doesn't require you to type the command. You can search for bro and among the results will be Nautilus and Firefox (hint: Gnome Shell also searches in the application description, and both are browsers). I can't believe real usability testing was done on the final version of GNOME 3. I keep hearing about all these completely undiscoverable keyboard shortcuts that appear to be necessary to use GNOME 3 with any sort of effectiveness. When I struggled with GNOME 3 for about a week I didn't discover or use any keyboard shortcuts. I think what is required is an application that starts when the desktop is launched for the first time and that offers the user a short introduction to the basic principles of the desktop. Easy discoverability and good usability may sometimes go hand in hand but also at times are mutual exclusive. Having a short introductory pamphlet would help the user understand the basics without resorting to awkward tool-tips or pop-ups to nudge the user in the right direction. Regards, Dennis -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15 Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error on different disks
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:45:01 +0200, MP wrote: W dniu 16 czerwca 2011 21:43 użytkownik Eric Sandeen napisał: On 6/16/11 2:37 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, Do anyone noticed any problems with mounting eCryptfs recently on F15? It seems to me unlikely that I have an I/O errors on few disks. Especially if only eCryptfs reports them. Anything in dmesg? Nothing unusual -Eric In /var/log/messages: Jun 17 13:24:46 localhost mount.ecryptfs: Failed to write to the mount table Got that when running ecryptfs.mount for the first time on this machine: [...] Not adding sig to user sig cache file; continuing with mount. Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error Check your system logs; visit http://launchpad.net/ecryptfs The mount was successful, however, according to mount output. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Broken dependencies: perl-BerkeleyDB
perl-BerkeleyDB has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-BerkeleyDB-0.43-5.fc15.x86_64 requires libdb = 0:5.1.25 perl-BerkeleyDB-0.43-5.fc15.x86_64 requires libdb-5.1.so()(64bit) On i386: perl-BerkeleyDB-0.43-5.fc15.i686 requires libdb = 0:5.1.25 perl-BerkeleyDB-0.43-5.fc15.i686 requires libdb-5.1.so Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 689709] Circular and missing dependecies
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=689709 --- Comment #16 from Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org 2011-06-17 07:28:14 EDT --- (In reply to comment #15) f14 can't be built, before Fedora's QA's delay queue doesn't give freedom to another package this perl-Perl-MinimumVersion depends upon. Perhaps you could try out the new Buildroot Overrides facility in Bodhi to overcome that? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
Re: F15 Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error on different disks
2011/6/17 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:45:01 +0200, MP wrote: W dniu 16 czerwca 2011 21:43 użytkownik Eric Sandeen napisał: On 6/16/11 2:37 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, Do anyone noticed any problems with mounting eCryptfs recently on F15? It seems to me unlikely that I have an I/O errors on few disks. Especially if only eCryptfs reports them. Anything in dmesg? Nothing unusual -Eric In /var/log/messages: Jun 17 13:24:46 localhost mount.ecryptfs: Failed to write to the mount table I don't have this warning here Got that when running ecryptfs.mount for the first time on this machine: [...] Not adding sig to user sig cache file; continuing with mount. Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error Check your system logs; visit http://launchpad.net/ecryptfs The mount was successful, however, according to mount output. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 12:48 PM, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 12:20 +0200, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: You can search for bro and among the results will be Nautilus and Firefox (hint: Gnome Shell also searches in the application description, and both are browsers). A keyword search is appropriate when you already know what you are looking for but not if you only have fuzzy imagination about what you are looking for. That said keyword search can't replace extended browsing (such as gnome 2 supplied through tooltips). Or differently: How are newcomers or users who are looking for an application to perform an infrequent task expected find out what an application does rsp. which application is hiding underneath an icon with Gnome 3? Requiring users to launch all of them (which seems to be Gnome 3's philosophy, AFAIS) definitely is not the solution. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 17/06/11 12:17, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: On 06/17/2011 01:02 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I can't believe real usability testing was done on the final version of GNOME 3. I keep hearing about all these completely undiscoverable keyboard shortcuts that appear to be necessary to use GNOME 3 with any sort of effectiveness. When I struggled with GNOME 3 for about a week I didn't discover or use any keyboard shortcuts. I think what is required is an application that starts when the desktop is launched for the first time and that offers the user a short introduction to the basic principles of the desktop. Easy discoverability and good usability may sometimes go hand in hand but also at times are mutual exclusive. Having a short introductory pamphlet would help the user understand the basics without resorting to awkward tool-tips or pop-ups to nudge the user in the right direction. KISS. F1 should launch the help app by default. It's configured to do so, but doesn't. I presume there's a bug for that. After a couple of days I typed help in the search box and was enlightened. This help does have an intro section, but it's long winded. There should be a TL;DR section presented first with basic navigation and shortcuts. cheers, Pádraig. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
2011/6/17 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com: On 06/17/2011 03:59 PM, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: As has been stated earlier in this thread, having the hot spot in the top left corner and categories far right causes a lot of mouse movements. Common apps in the dash only opens the first instance, after that it switches to the existing instance, effectively doubling the functionality from the activities window. I use Windows key and control + click for these things correspondingly. Middle click launches the app in a new workspace which is convenient as well The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. 2. Type in what you search, at least the first letters. After that, some icons are shown and you may use up and down arrow keys to select. 3. After selecting the application you want, press Enter, and that's it. Access through keyboard was something missing in previous GNOME. End users go faster if they only use keyboard (of course, the program and the desktop environment should be prepared for that). I forced the change from F14 to F15 in some production desktops, and this is what end-users said to me: it's a lot faster, it's different, but a lot faster. It's just a matter to get used to it. I was sceptic the first time, and probably I would have said the same as first posts in this thread, but end users have the last and valuable word, and nobody can't deny it. I'm just commenting what I saw in an F15 deployment in production. kind regards Domingo Becker -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Unresponsive Package Maintainer - Jeroen van Meeuwen
I'm following the procedure at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers Does anyone know how to contact Jeroen van Meeuwen? He is not answering e-mails at his listed address or the following Bugzilla reports: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707934 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707937 There is also many other Jeroen's packages which would need some maintenance. Thanks, Vit -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
Em Sex, 2011-06-17 às 13:43 +0200, Ralf Corsepius escreveu: On 06/17/2011 12:48 PM, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 12:20 +0200, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: You can search for bro and among the results will be Nautilus and Firefox (hint: Gnome Shell also searches in the application description, and both are browsers). A keyword search is appropriate when you already know what you are looking for but not if you only have fuzzy imagination about what you are looking for. That said keyword search can't replace extended browsing (such as gnome 2 supplied through tooltips). Or differently: How are newcomers or users who are looking for an application to perform an infrequent task expected find out what an application does rsp. which application is hiding underneath an icon with Gnome 3? Requiring users to launch all of them (which seems to be Gnome 3's philosophy, AFAIS) definitely is not the solution. I would argue that simply typing a keyword related to the task you're trying to perform is far more effective and easier to use than manually browsing a long list of applications artificially categorized, specially in this age of users like my mom, who actually still types hotmail on the web browser search bar in order to read her e-mail. Evandro -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: OT: SystemD F16\Rawhide Pointers needed.
On 16 June 2011 11:50, Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com wrote: On 06/16/2011 11:20 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: nfs mounted local repo from an attached NAS. (supplies a number of boxes) yum-updateonboot used to update on boot. (sans rhgb quiet) In level 3, login prompt appears before update finished. level 5 --ditto-- The only way currently to know if update is finished, is by typing yum update and waiting. How can I allow yum-update to finish before login? You could add an ordering dependency to systemd-user-sessions.service: After=yum-updateonboot.service It works for a single boot, then removes itself from: /lib/systemd/system/systemd-user-sessions.service so the Alert has to be entered again between boots. Michal -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F15: Reboot impossible after upgrade
what happens here? - upstart is replaced by systemd i hope a hard-reset is not the solution for this [root@buildserver64:~]$ /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda Installation finished. No error reported. This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map. Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'. # this device map was generated by anaconda (hd0) /dev/sda (hd4) /dev/sde [root@buildserver64:~]$ sync [root@buildserver64:~]$ reboot Failed to talk to init daemon. [root@buildserver64:~]$ reboot Failed to talk to init daemon. [root@buildserver64:~]$ which reboot /sbin/reboot [root@buildserver64:~]$ init 3 Couldn't find an alternative telinit implementation to spawn. [root@buildserver64:~]$ reboot Failed to talk to init daemon. [root@buildserver64:~]$ systemctl status httpd.service Failed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /org/freedesktop/systemd1/private: Connection refused signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
slightly late heads up: soname bump for gssdp/gupnp
Hey All, Sorry for the late notice but there was a soname bump in gssdp/gupnp that I missed. Most of the broken packages have now been rebuilt and it should be cleaned up for the next rawhide run. Cheers, Peter -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Disregard last reply Re: OT: SystemD F16\Rawhide Pointers needed.
On 17/06/11 13:10, Frank Murphy wrote: My apologies, I was looking at 2 unfixed boxes. Alert.. remains in fixed boxes. So kudos to you Michal. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
* Domingo Becker [17/06/2011 14:21] : Access through keyboard was something missing in previous GNOME. End users go faster if they only use keyboard (of course, the program and the desktop environment should be prepared for that). Agreed. Before installing F15, I was sceptic about having to search for applications. After using it for a week, I can't imagine going back to a menu-based solution. Emmanuel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Unresponsive Package Maintainer - Jeroen van Meeuwen
On 06/17/2011 02:01 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: I'm following the procedure at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers Does anyone know how to contact Jeroen van Meeuwen? He is not answering e-mails at his listed address or the following Bugzilla reports: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707934 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707937 There is also many other Jeroen's packages which would need some maintenance. there're dozen of reports about revisor too which is not working on any current fedora and epel either. -- Levente Si vis pacem para bellum! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: With Gnome3 you 1stly have to tick on Applications (located left top on the screen), then hit this tiny scroll bar located ca. 1 in/2cm left of the right screen (not an easy task - Requires travelling almost the whole screen), then to navigate down several pages to find the applications your are looking for. When doing so, you often you are getting lost in non-self explanatory icons, with cryptic icon-names without tool tips, i.e you are not finding the app you are looking for. Actually, there's an easier way. Press the Super key (typically the one with the logo of another operating system on it), and start typing the name or description of the app you want to launch. I almost never spend time scrolling through the list of applications. -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 09:01:57AM -0300, Evandro Giovanini wrote: I would argue that simply typing a keyword related to the task you're trying to perform is far more effective and easier to use than manually browsing a long list of applications artificially categorized, specially in this age of users like my mom, who actually still types hotmail on the web browser search bar in order to read her e-mail. Google *is* the web's command line. So is GNOME 3 it would appear ... Whether any of this helps new users is something you can only find out by frequent testing on new users. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://libguestfs.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[perl-File-Copy-Recursive] Perl mass rebuild
commit 096b251e47c057dc02c10f4b87dbb891d4367ea5
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:01:03 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-File-Copy-Recursive.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-File-Copy-Recursive.spec b/perl-File-Copy-Recursive.spec
index 307b6ec..3d99c13 100644
--- a/perl-File-Copy-Recursive.spec
+++ b/perl-File-Copy-Recursive.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-File-Copy-Recursive
Version: 0.38
-Release: 8%{?dist}
+Release: 9%{?dist}
Summary: Extension for recursively copying files and directories
License: GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ make test
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.38-9
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Tue Feb 08 2011 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 0.38-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild
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[perl-common-sense] Perl mass rebuild
commit fade01724391f2a7e99a231fa4cbb98b92b00596
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:01:04 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-common-sense.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-common-sense.spec b/perl-common-sense.spec
index 511227d..2b5905d 100644
--- a/perl-common-sense.spec
+++ b/perl-common-sense.spec
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
Name: perl-common-sense
Summary:Common sense Perl defaults
Version:3.4
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/ML/MLEHMANN/common-sense-%{version}.tar.gz
@@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ make test
%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 3.4-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Sat May 07 2011 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 3.4-1
- update to latest upstream version
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[perl-IO-Null] Perl mass rebuild
commit 1e36b6aa4a3fba62770748473a6d8bb00c712359
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:01:06 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-IO-Null.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-IO-Null.spec b/perl-IO-Null.spec
index ca6a286..8056c03 100644
--- a/perl-IO-Null.spec
+++ b/perl-IO-Null.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-IO-Null
Version:1.01
-Release:10%{?dist}
+Release:11%{?dist}
Summary:Class for null filehandles
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -48,6 +48,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.01-11
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Tue Feb 08 2011 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 1.01-10
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[perl-Date-Simple] Perl mass rebuild
commit c421f05eb78fbf6579af1c0bc252b3dbbbdafd3d
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:01:06 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Date-Simple.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Date-Simple.spec b/perl-Date-Simple.spec
index 3c6a25c..ef3dbcd 100644
--- a/perl-Date-Simple.spec
+++ b/perl-Date-Simple.spec
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
Summary: Simple date object for perl
Name: perl-Date-Simple
Version: 3.03
-Release: 8%{?dist}
+Release: 9%{?dist}
License: GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
Url: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Date-Simple/
@@ -59,6 +59,9 @@ BuildRequires:perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker),
perl(Test::More)
%{_mandir}/man3/Date::Simple*.3pm*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 3.03-9
+- Perl mass rebuild
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[perl-Hash-WithDefaults] Perl mass rebuild
commit 7ccaa9d1d2a9ce432a396d02289b1d5647caefb8
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:01:24 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Hash-WithDefaults.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Hash-WithDefaults.spec b/perl-Hash-WithDefaults.spec
index 10542a5..7158da1 100644
--- a/perl-Hash-WithDefaults.spec
+++ b/perl-Hash-WithDefaults.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Hash-WithDefaults
Version:0.04
-Release:10%{?dist}
+Release:11%{?dist}
Summary:Class for hashes with key-casing requirements supporting
defaults
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -49,6 +49,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.04-11
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
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- 0.04-10
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[perl-Text-Aligner] Perl mass rebuild
commit 3ca4b0e92154d83ff63ea9341c5776a6d4af9b40
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:01:23 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Text-Aligner.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Text-Aligner.spec b/perl-Text-Aligner.spec
index 4ba85ea..3edb5b8 100644
--- a/perl-Text-Aligner.spec
+++ b/perl-Text-Aligner.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Text-Aligner
Version:0.07
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Release:4%{?dist}
Summary:Text::Aligner Perl module
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -54,6 +54,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.07-4
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
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[perl-XML-RegExp] Perl mass rebuild
commit e2feccda15e969d1aaff95f28b67202e3f52e3eb
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:01:27 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-XML-RegExp.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-XML-RegExp.spec b/perl-XML-RegExp.spec
index a5e247b..38010f8 100644
--- a/perl-XML-RegExp.spec
+++ b/perl-XML-RegExp.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-XML-RegExp
Version:0.03
-Release:10%{?dist}
+Release:11%{?dist}
Summary:Regular expressions for XML tokens
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -53,6 +53,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.03-11
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
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[perl-Class-Prototyped] Perl mass rebuild
commit 50421d59600df3e07cab51ba4329708cd84aa2e3
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:01:33 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Class-Prototyped.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Class-Prototyped.spec b/perl-Class-Prototyped.spec
index e5438b0..efdfee8 100644
--- a/perl-Class-Prototyped.spec
+++ b/perl-Class-Prototyped.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Class-Prototyped
Version:1.11
-Release:9%{?dist}
+Release:10%{?dist}
Summary:Fast prototype-based OO programming in Perl
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -57,6 +57,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.11-10
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Mon Feb 14 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.11-9
- fix broken filter
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[perl-Class-Accessor-Lite] Perl mass rebuild
commit 68cf1d2f96eff30e61d190b708ad0eba6996aacc
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:01:41 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Class-Accessor-Lite.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Class-Accessor-Lite.spec b/perl-Class-Accessor-Lite.spec
index 9499565..9800e84 100644
--- a/perl-Class-Accessor-Lite.spec
+++ b/perl-Class-Accessor-Lite.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Class-Accessor-Lite
Version:0.05
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Release:3%{?dist}
Summary:Minimalistic variant of Class::Accessor
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.05-3
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
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Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The last good[1] keyboards made (AFAIK) predate keyboards with windows keys, so none of the keyboards I use routinely have them. [1]good requires: 1-function keys grouped on left so that only fingers of one child's (small) hand are required to use any combination of function key simultaneously with any combination of shift key(s); readily usable purely by touch of an experience user 2-standard inverted-T cursor keys with blank above up key and two blanks above left and right keys 3-oversize Enter key 4-double width backspace key. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib] Perl mass rebuild
commit a4d71c782aac53a9c56a66b2f7c1fc64c062f888
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date: Fri Jun 17 14:06:28 2011 +0100
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib.spec b/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib.spec
index 08b73c4..f5f6351 100644
--- a/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib.spec
+++ b/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib
Version:2.035
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
Summary:Low-Level Interface to zlib compression library
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -56,6 +56,9 @@ make test
%{_mandir}/man3/Compress::Raw::Zlib.3pm*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 2.035-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Sat May 7 2011 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 2.035-1
- Update to 2.035 (no changes)
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[perl-Class-Loader] Perl mass rebuild
commit f8ae430b28d14b97f22b8acb2d54958b2954231c
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:08:31 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Class-Loader.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Class-Loader.spec b/perl-Class-Loader.spec
index 5957104..1ba5aaf 100644
--- a/perl-Class-Loader.spec
+++ b/perl-Class-Loader.spec
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
Summary: Load modules and create objects on demand
Name: perl-Class-Loader
Version: 2.03
-Release: 12%{?dist}
+Release: 13%{?dist}
License: GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
Url: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-Loader/
@@ -53,6 +53,9 @@ names that can be used in place of module names at _load().
%{_mandir}/man3/Class::Loader.3pm*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 2.03-13
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
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[perl-Unicode-String] Perl mass rebuild
commit 96a045f80cbd3a6c9f35dcb4a6d85b350c01238f
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 15:09:57 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Unicode-String.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Unicode-String.spec b/perl-Unicode-String.spec
index fb143ac..b48250c 100644
--- a/perl-Unicode-String.spec
+++ b/perl-Unicode-String.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Unicode-String
Version:2.09
-Release:18%{?dist}
+Release:19%{?dist}
Summary:Perl modules to handle various Unicode issues
@@ -66,6 +66,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 2.09-19
+- Perl mass rebuild
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[perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib] Created tag perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.035-2.fc16
The lightweight tag 'perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.035-2.fc16' was created pointing to: a4d71c7... Perl mass rebuild -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
2011/6/17 Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net: On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The key that can not be named! lol cheers Domingo Becker -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Bug 714140] undefined symbol: Perl_Gthr_key_ptr
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714140 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution||RAWHIDE Last Closed||2011-06-17 09:16:39 --- Comment #1 from Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com 2011-06-17 09:16:39 EDT --- Please don't open bug on packages during mass rebuild. List of failures is generated by script, so no worries, I don't miss any. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
It looks like a hanky or a napkin to me! -Cam -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 02:53 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Ralf Corsepiusrc040...@freenet.de wrote: With Gnome3 you 1stly have to tick on Applications (located left top on the screen), then hit this tiny scroll bar located ca. 1 in/2cm left of the right screen (not an easy task - Requires travelling almost the whole screen), then to navigate down several pages to find the applications your are looking for. When doing so, you often you are getting lost in non-self explanatory icons, with cryptic icon-names without tool tips, i.e you are not finding the app you are looking for. Actually, there's an easier way. Press the Super key (typically the one with the logo of another operating system on it), and start typing the name or description of the app you want to launch. I almost never spend time scrolling through the list of applications. ... you mean by holy ghost intuition, feel tempted to press a key to access a hidden feature, where once was a simple feature? Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 06:51 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: ... you mean by holy ghost intuition, feel tempted to press a key to access a hidden feature, where once was a simple feature? Alt+F1 which was the shortcut for accessing the menu still works. For GUI users, they just hit the hot corner. For anyone who is more through, read the help or cheatsheat Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Unresponsive Package Maintainer - Jeroen van Meeuwen
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:37:10 +0200 Farkas Levente lfar...@lfarkas.org wrote: On 06/17/2011 02:01 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: I'm following the procedure at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers Does anyone know how to contact Jeroen van Meeuwen? He is not answering e-mails at his listed address or the following Bugzilla reports: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707934 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707937 There is also many other Jeroen's packages which would need some maintenance. there're dozen of reports about revisor too which is not working on any current fedora and epel either. I know he's been very busy and this week has been traveling, so has limited access to the net. Hopefully he will get back soon and chime in here. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: Reboot impossible after upgrade
On 06/17/2011 02:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: what happens here? - upstart is replaced by systemd Is this bug 707717? i hope a hard-reset is not the solution for this 'sync reboot -f' should work even in this case. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: OT: SystemD F16\Rawhide Pointers needed.
On 06/17/2011 02:10 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: It works for a single boot, then removes itself from: /lib/systemd/system/systemd-user-sessions.service The file will get overwritten when a systemd package update comes. It's better to make a copy of it in /etc/systemd/system and edit that instead. Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 03:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/17/2011 06:51 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: ... you mean by holy ghost intuition, feel tempted to press a key to access a hidden feature, where once was a simple feature? Alt+F1 which was the shortcut for accessing the menu still works. For GUI users, they just hit the hot corner. For anyone who is more through, read the help or cheatsheat Or leave gnome 3 rsp Fedora alone. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On 06/17/2011 07:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 06/17/2011 03:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/17/2011 06:51 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: ... you mean by holy ghost intuition, feel tempted to press a key to access a hidden feature, where once was a simple feature? Alt+F1 which was the shortcut for accessing the menu still works. For GUI users, they just hit the hot corner. For anyone who is more through, read the help or cheatsheat Or leave gnome 3 rsp Fedora alone. Sure and don't participate in discussions about it either since you already picked alternatives. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 09:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The last good[1] keyboards made (AFAIK) predate keyboards with windows keys, so none of the keyboards I use routinely have them. [1]good requires: 1-function keys grouped on left so that only fingers of one child's (small) hand are required to use any combination of function key simultaneously with any combination of shift key(s); readily usable purely by touch of an experience user 2-standard inverted-T cursor keys with blank above up key and two blanks above left and right keys 3-oversize Enter key 4-double width backspace key. The conditions 2, 3, 4 are still fairly commonly met although it seems to be harder to get such keyboard recently - at least here. However I thought that the condition 1 was abandoned when the original IBM AT keyboards stopped shipping :). But then a short search revealed this one: Avant Stellar Keyboard http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=376Itemid=65limit=1limitstart=4 -- Tomas Mraz No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. Turkish proverb -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Unresponsive Package Maintainer - Jeroen van Meeuwen
Dne 17.6.2011 15:31, Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:37:10 +0200 Farkas Leventelfar...@lfarkas.org wrote: On 06/17/2011 02:01 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: I'm following the procedure at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers Does anyone know how to contact Jeroen van Meeuwen? He is not answering e-mails at his listed address or the following Bugzilla reports: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707934 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707937 There is also many other Jeroen's packages which would need some maintenance. there're dozen of reports about revisor too which is not working on any current fedora and epel either. I know he's been very busy and this week has been traveling, so has limited access to the net. Hopefully he will get back soon and chime in here. kevin I hope so, because he did not updated any package since last October, he did not confirmed any co-maintainers for his packages, etc ... Vit -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: ... you mean by holy ghost intuition, feel tempted to press a key to access a hidden feature, where once was a simple feature? The question really isn't whether or not to make use of the newer keys. The real question is how to make it learnable without being able to paint the label on the physical key. If the Esc key on the keyboards were not painted with a printed hint...would people be able to find it on all keyboards? I've seen Esc in various relative locations on the keyboard interface over the years depending on the keyboard. Or the numlock or the delete? The painted hinting on the keyboard itself matter a lot and we don't have a good alternative to good key labels. What I am really saying is that the deeper problem with learnability of new keyboard driven features is that the hardware and the software development for pretty much the entire open ecosystem we work with in Fedora is disconnected. If GNOME( or KDE or other project..its not GNOME specific issue) was like Apple and controlled the design of the hardware as well as the user interface for the OS and were allowed to paint the physical keys with the printed hinting appropriate for the OS... a lot of the learnability frustration for new keyboard driven features would be mitigated. Just, look at all the extra keys on modern OEM laptops from the Dell's and the Lenovo's and others...extra keys which map to OS specific or BIOS specific functionality that they as OEMs design the hardware for to interact with the OS they _ship_. None of this stuff is standardized...and yet the OEMs feel perfectly fine doing it and selling differentiated keypress devices in the market. Of all the systems you can go out and buy at a major consumer retailer in the US(and I say the US because that's were I am and thus I can't speak to other places with authority) or from major online OEMs how many laptops have a standard layout with no extra functionality keys? 1%? less? The _standard_ keyboard from 10 years ago is not the full story for retail hardware that is being produced and bought now. For us to pretend that it is...is just putting our heads in the sand...and giving up. So how do we make the use of these keyboard driven functionality more discoverable? I don't know. I'm not a UI designer. But I would like to see a UI designer discuss keyboard functionality discoverability. Moreover, I would like to see 2 or more UI designers have a public archived meaty discussion on the topic that I can read and learn from. -jefMy current fav gnome-shell keyboard incantation is the screencast recorderthere is no way on earth I'm going to remember that 4 simultaneous keypress combo. And just as unlikely for me to There is a reason I was never good at Mortal Kombat...the key combos were just not my strengthspaleta -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: slightly late heads up: soname bump for gssdp/gupnp
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:11:34 +0100, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, Sorry for the late notice but there was a soname bump in gssdp/gupnp that I missed. Most of the broken packages have now been rebuilt and it should be cleaned up for the next rawhide run. I have hedgewars rebuilding right now. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: slightly late heads up: soname bump for gssdp/gupnp
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:11:34 +0100, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, Sorry for the late notice but there was a soname bump in gssdp/gupnp that I missed. Most of the broken packages have now been rebuilt and it should be cleaned up for the next rawhide run. Nevermind about hedgewars, that was for ghc related soname bumps. I misread which soname bumps were referred to in your message. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:36:21 +0200 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: So in conclusion it is not that surprising at the end, that W7 and G3 are pretty similar. Tha's no excuse. Also the icons are getting bigger on both platforms. Yes and the text labels are tiny. Most icons are useless, they are equally meaningless in any language. So Gnome3 actively has made it harder to find applications that I don't use frequently. That's not brilliant, especially after they supposedly have done research on this. No, it looks like they did some research, and then didn't come up with any new ideas. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15 Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error on different disks
On 6/17/11 6:28 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:45:01 +0200, MP wrote: W dniu 16 czerwca 2011 21:43 użytkownik Eric Sandeen napisał: On 6/16/11 2:37 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, Do anyone noticed any problems with mounting eCryptfs recently on F15? It seems to me unlikely that I have an I/O errors on few disks. Especially if only eCryptfs reports them. Anything in dmesg? Nothing unusual -Eric In /var/log/messages: Jun 17 13:24:46 localhost mount.ecryptfs: Failed to write to the mount table likely a result of /etc/mtab pointing to /proc/mounts now Can you file an ecryptfs-utils bug for that? I don't know how it'll be fixed but it looks like an issue. -Eric Got that when running ecryptfs.mount for the first time on this machine: [...] Not adding sig to user sig cache file; continuing with mount. Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error Check your system logs; visit http://launchpad.net/ecryptfs The mount was successful, however, according to mount output. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:33:18 +0900 夜神 岩男 supergiantpot...@yahoo.co.jp wrote: Considering the frequent calls of Gnome 3 has failed at its task or the GUI has failed if the user must makes me wonder: Where is the task definition or specification against which the implementation has failed? Doesn't live up to my expectation is very different from Doesn't comply with spec and both are different from Is a bad design. How about a spec then of what Gnome3 was trying to achiece, and how about those who like it telling us how Gnome3 achieved those things? -- Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: Reboot impossible after upgrade
Am 17.06.2011 15:32, schrieb Michal Schmidt: On 06/17/2011 02:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: what happens here? - upstart is replaced by systemd Is this bug 707717? not sure, i upgraded from F14 to F15 who does from F13 - jesus christ :-( i hope a hard-reset is not the solution for this 'sync reboot -f' should work even in this case Hm too late :-( this is a bug that should never happen my first workstation upgraded 40 minutes ago did nothing after reboot no chance to type anything or switch to STRG+ALT+F3 here also a hard reset - this is really bad :-( what happens with a Sotware-RAID10 in such a case? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Domingo Becker domingobec...@gmail.com wrote: What key between Ctrl Alt? The key that can not be named! It can be named... it's called the Super key. Well, at least mine is super, as it has a Fedora logo on it :-) -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt
On 17/06/11 15:42, Jared K. Smith wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Domingo Beckerdomingobec...@gmail.com wrote: What key between Ctrl Alt? The key that can not be named! It can be named... it's called the Super key. Mine's called Fred aka menu key. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Orphaning istanbul ahead of F-16.
Jeff Spaleta (jspal...@gmail.com) said: If you want to pick up maintainership for istanbul let me know. I'm going to be retiring this package in about a week. What's the preferred screen recorder these days (outside of the shell easter egg?) Bill -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[perl-Devel-SmallProf] Perl mass rebuild
commit 0ebb4a8722a265096048c9c3c33967dffe51bbf1
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 16:58:08 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Devel-SmallProf.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Devel-SmallProf.spec b/perl-Devel-SmallProf.spec
index 7f3c617..9997b42 100644
--- a/perl-Devel-SmallProf.spec
+++ b/perl-Devel-SmallProf.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Devel-SmallProf
Version:2.02
-Release:10%{?dist}
+Release:11%{?dist}
Summary:Per-line Perl profiler
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -59,6 +59,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 2.02-11
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Tue Apr 19 2011 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 2.02-10
- Make the provides filter work with rpm 4.9 too
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[perl-MLDBM] Perl mass rebuild
commit 08ed76228c9a9e0720f6e8d6792bbcd556051c65
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 16:58:12 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-MLDBM.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-MLDBM.spec b/perl-MLDBM.spec
index f2c0f7b..b69685d 100644
--- a/perl-MLDBM.spec
+++ b/perl-MLDBM.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-MLDBM
Version:2.04
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Release:4%{?dist}
Summary:Store multi-level hash structure in single level tied hash
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 2.04-4
+- Perl mass rebuild
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[perl-GTop] Perl mass rebuild
commit 2d123abe0dd487a3cfe1385a128adef351d21d92
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 16:58:24 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-GTop.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-GTop.spec b/perl-GTop.spec
index 8e8f147..70c39f6 100644
--- a/perl-GTop.spec
+++ b/perl-GTop.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-GTop
Version:0.16
-Release:14%{?dist}
+Release:15%{?dist}
Summary:Perl interface to libgtop
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -68,6 +68,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.16-15
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
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Re: Orphaning istanbul ahead of F-16.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Jeff Spaleta (jspal...@gmail.com) said: If you want to pick up maintainership for istanbul let me know. I'm going to be retiring this package in about a week. What's the preferred screen recorder these days (outside of the shell easter egg?) gtkrecorddesktop maybe? istanbul has some long standing cruft associated with the special gst plugin that ships with it that is unrelated to gnome-shell and I don't have the time to dig into upstream and trying to fix things like screencasting inside a vm that are related to the gst plugin. If the only problem was istanbul's UI under gnome3 shell...that would be worth my time creating with some help from a UI rockstart..the UI is very thin. But the real problems are in that gst plugin and how that gst pipeline it is using works. If someone who really understands gst pipelines could show me a pipeline that does the screencapturing magic using stock gst plugins so I can rip out the special binary plubin and turn this into a noarch package again...I'd be willing to champion that solution even into the upstream codebase (assuming its still an active codebase..which I have my doubts about). But like I said, I don't have the interest in trying to figure out what the gst pipeline is. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Jared K. Smith jsm...@fedoraproject.org wrote: It can be named... it's called the Super key. Well, at least mine is super, as it has a Fedora logo on it :-) That's a bad place for the Fedora logo... just like its a bad place for the Windows logo. What is needed is project-neutral label for that key so that GNOME and other interfaces can start referencing it in the documentation with having to work about vendor branding. If only the superman logo were public domain the superman symbol would be perfect. -jefPutting branded labels on our keyboard layouts is just dumb. It's no different than putting the Nike swoosh in place of the N key on some keyboards or the Starbucks logo on the S key on others. Branded logo on the parts of the physical interface make it _more_ difficult to provide accurate documentation which describes that interfacespaleta -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 01:19 +0200, Henrik Wejdmark wrote:
My impression is that GNOME3 is trying to compete with Android and FrontRow,
but have forgotten all of us who still uses desktops/laptops. We don't have
touch screens yet
This is a common misapprehension, but it's not true. The reason for the
large icon grid is actually that the developers did real world user
research (yes, really!) and found that many people had significant
trouble navigating the typical Windows / GNOME 2 nested menu system full
of wide-but-short entries. They would lose levels in the nesting by
moving the mouse a bit wrong. They would launch the wrong thing because
the target area was too short. This was especially pronounced with poor
pointing devices - particularly cheap trackpads on cheap laptops.
Hm, but then this problem was not at all solved. Every Important
Application(tm) (i.e. Firefox, LibreOffice, Empathy) uses the same
menu widgets, and uses nested menus. A real solution would
necessarily involve changes to the GTK menu widget (and, well, perhaps
actually using the GTK widget set for gnome-shell).
Currently, when I open the giant application grid, I get oversized
meaningless pictures (yes, oversized - to even see the grid I had to
click on the Applications label, which is much smaller than the
icons), accompanied with some text in tiny font that is impossible to
read at a glance, but apparently still too large to fit text on
screen, resulting in Wireshark Network An
And as for the keyboard search:
* The grid contains two Aktualizace softwaru (Software Update{,s}
in English) icons, and search returns one of them perhaps 80% of the
time, and the other in 20%. The old menu actually allowed developing
some muscle memory to reach a specific item, the search doesn't.
* Try typing bittorrent: you'll get an image that I can best
describe as one of the devices used to set off explosions in comic
books, with Transmission written under it. Why should the user feel
that they want to start _that_ program?
Mirek
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Re: what key between Ctrl Alt
On 06/17/2011 09:05 AM, Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The last good[1] keyboards made (AFAIK) predate keyboards with windows keys, so none of the keyboards I use routinely have them. [1]good requires: 1-function keys grouped on left so that only fingers of one child's (small) hand are required to use any combination of function key simultaneously with any combination of shift key(s); readily usable purely by touch of an experience user 2-standard inverted-T cursor keys with blank above up key and two blanks above left and right keys 3-oversize Enter key 4-double width backspace key. +100 -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves* Sr. Software Engineer III Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.cl...@netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Domingo Becker wrote: 2011/6/17 Felix Miata : On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The key that can not be named! lol I call it the untouchable. I once heard the world will end if I pushed that key. I never had the guts to try. Funny thing is, once the keyboard gets older, that key starts to shine. Orcan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[perl-Text-Glob] Perl mass rebuild
commit 09dc3aba0e136202d3e6ac978d297bd976a66856
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:24:46 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Text-Glob.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Text-Glob.spec b/perl-Text-Glob.spec
index 5ab944c..35375bf 100644
--- a/perl-Text-Glob.spec
+++ b/perl-Text-Glob.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Text-Glob
Version: 0.09
-Release: 1%{?dist}
+Release: 2%{?dist}
Summary: Perl module to match globbing patterns against text
License: GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -40,6 +40,9 @@ make test
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.09-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Wed Mar 02 2011 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.09-1
- Upstream update.
- Spec cleanup.
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[perl-YAPE-Regex] Perl mass rebuild
commit 9dbcef2918441b814e27c836c1d0ce651e764cd8
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:24:45 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-YAPE-Regex.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-YAPE-Regex.spec b/perl-YAPE-Regex.spec
index 2a2cd20..68298ed 100644
--- a/perl-YAPE-Regex.spec
+++ b/perl-YAPE-Regex.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-YAPE-Regex
Version:4.00
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Release:3%{?dist}
Summary:Yet Another Parser/Extractor for Regular Expressions
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -50,6 +50,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 4.00-3
+- Perl mass rebuild
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[perl-Text-Levenshtein] Perl mass rebuild
commit c150064d7328cd2b0696a5415c406944571a74b6
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:24:46 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Text-Levenshtein.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Text-Levenshtein.spec b/perl-Text-Levenshtein.spec
index 3c4c591..a52f616 100644
--- a/perl-Text-Levenshtein.spec
+++ b/perl-Text-Levenshtein.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Text-Levenshtein
Version:0.05
-Release:12%{?dist}
+Release:13%{?dist}
Summary:Implementation of the Levenshtein edit distance
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -50,6 +50,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.05-13
+- Perl mass rebuild
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* Wed Feb 09 2011 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
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[perl-NOCpulse-Utils] Perl mass rebuild
commit e7323c3094ac3b151fb14bb1673f82c0caa7ba61
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:24:57 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-NOCpulse-Utils.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-NOCpulse-Utils.spec b/perl-NOCpulse-Utils.spec
index ec6976a..5884405 100644
--- a/perl-NOCpulse-Utils.spec
+++ b/perl-NOCpulse-Utils.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-NOCpulse-Utils
Version: 1.14.11
-Release: 8%{?dist}
+Release: 9%{?dist}
Summary: NOCpulse utility packages
URL: https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk
Source0:
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/s/p/spacewalk/%{name}-%{version}.tar.gz
@@ -45,6 +45,9 @@ mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_mandir}/man3/
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.14.11-9
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* Fri Jun 10 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.14.11-8
- Perl 5.14 mass rebuild
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[perl-MDV-Packdrakeng] Perl mass rebuild
commit e516d7f5bdd5ca6615c893a569b0f1924ea441df
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:25:07 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-MDV-Packdrakeng.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-MDV-Packdrakeng.spec b/perl-MDV-Packdrakeng.spec
index fdd3bbd..30eaaa5 100644
--- a/perl-MDV-Packdrakeng.spec
+++ b/perl-MDV-Packdrakeng.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-MDV-Packdrakeng
Version:1.13
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
Summary:Simple Archive Extractor/Builder
License:GPLv2+
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -45,5 +45,8 @@ make test
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.13-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
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* Tue Feb 08 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com 1.13-1
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[perl-Number-Format] Perl mass rebuild
commit a7f15f65347cade19fab547d54fe9bdde5b0e444
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:25:11 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Number-Format.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Number-Format.spec b/perl-Number-Format.spec
index 74d0737..70457c4 100644
--- a/perl-Number-Format.spec
+++ b/perl-Number-Format.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Number-Format
Version:1.73
-Release:5%{?dist}
+Release:6%{?dist}
Summary:Perl extension for formatting numbers
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -46,6 +46,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.73-6
+- Perl mass rebuild
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Re: what key between Ctrl Alt
On 06/17/2011 09:43 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 09:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The last good[1] keyboards made (AFAIK) predate keyboards with windows keys, so none of the keyboards I use routinely have them. [1]good requires: 1-function keys grouped on left so that only fingers of one child's (small) hand are required to use any combination of function key simultaneously with any combination of shift key(s); readily usable purely by touch of an experience user 2-standard inverted-T cursor keys with blank above up key and two blanks above left and right keys 3-oversize Enter key 4-double width backspace key. The conditions 2, 3, 4 are still fairly commonly met although it seems to be harder to get such keyboard recently - at least here. However I thought that the condition 1 was abandoned when the original IBM AT keyboards stopped shipping :). But then a short search revealed this one: Avant Stellar Keyboard http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=376Itemid=65limit=1limitstart=4 Good collapsible spring keyboards are still available from Unicomp. http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/linux101.html -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves* Sr. Software Engineer III Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.cl...@netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[perl-CLASS] Perl mass rebuild
commit 442fe6a5226c51d3c1efe27fac97c9e73f10c11b
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:25:28 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-CLASS.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-CLASS.spec b/perl-CLASS.spec
index 1368c39..a3b68c7 100644
--- a/perl-CLASS.spec
+++ b/perl-CLASS.spec
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
Name: perl-CLASS
Summary:Alias for __PACKAGE__
Version:1.00
-Release:4%{?dist}
+Release:5%{?dist}
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MS/MSCHWERN/CLASS-%{version}.tar.gz
@@ -52,6 +52,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.00-5
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Tue Feb 08 2011 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 1.00-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild
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[perl-Devel-Refactor] Perl mass rebuild
commit b5a85b5bd455046f0af1d1d87099f1015c6b43d4
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:25:31 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Devel-Refactor.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Devel-Refactor.spec b/perl-Devel-Refactor.spec
index a3947f1..5306bab 100644
--- a/perl-Devel-Refactor.spec
+++ b/perl-Devel-Refactor.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Devel-Refactor
Version:0.05
-Release:6%{?dist}
+Release:7%{?dist}
Summary:Perl extension for refactoring Perl code
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -45,6 +45,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.05-7
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Tue Feb 08 2011 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 0.05-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild
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[perl-Proc-Wait3] Perl mass rebuild
commit 5818a836ac9425279a61af166f929a58add55eb5
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:25:34 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Proc-Wait3.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Proc-Wait3.spec b/perl-Proc-Wait3.spec
index f4e03ba..61bb194 100644
--- a/perl-Proc-Wait3.spec
+++ b/perl-Proc-Wait3.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Proc-Wait3
Version:0.04
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
Summary:Perl extension for wait3 system call
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -50,6 +50,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.04-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Fri Feb 18 2011 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org 0.04-1
- Upstream update (License clarified).
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[perl-Parse-Yapp] Perl mass rebuild
commit 316403d192cadaaef0bc4392ecad61afebf0fc74
Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Jun 17 17:25:28 2011 +0200
Perl mass rebuild
perl-Parse-Yapp.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Parse-Yapp.spec b/perl-Parse-Yapp.spec
index 3a4f8fe..6ccd867 100644
--- a/perl-Parse-Yapp.spec
+++ b/perl-Parse-Yapp.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-Parse-Yapp
Version:1.05
-Release:44%{?dist}
+Release:45%{?dist}
Summary:Perl extension for generating and using LALR parsers
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -54,6 +54,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%changelog
+* Fri Jun 17 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.05-45
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
* Tue Feb 08 2011 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 1.05-44
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