On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2011/08/30 15:06 (GMT+1000) Chris Jones composed:
>
>> I can't see any reason for floppies these days considering their extreme
>> price per data unit as opposed to usb memory.
>
> For some people the price of floppies is a sunk cost, or was
On 2011/08/30 15:06 (GMT+1000) Chris Jones composed:
> I can't see any reason for floppies these days considering their extreme
> price per data unit as opposed to usb memory.
For some people the price of floppies is a sunk cost, or was never a cost at
all (e.g. me, who has over a hundred empty
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 08/29/2011 10:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > It is very irritating, since I only use floppies when I really need to,
>
> Is this due to the need to boot into DOS to run a firmware utility or
> something similar? If so, you can create
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:04 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > Brian C. Lane wrote:
> >> selinux is a big example of
> >> this, causing a large spike as it is installed.
> >
> > That should[1] no longer be an issue.
> >
> > [1] http://d
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 22:02 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
> >>
> >> In both cases I had 2 gigs of ram. Should not be a memory issue.
> >
> > That is more than enough. Please fil
On 08/29/2011 10:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> It is very irritating, since I only use floppies when I really need to,
Is this due to the need to boot into DOS to run a firmware utility or
something similar? If so, you can create a bootable, DOS USB flash
drive. I haven't had a need for a floppy d
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said:
> No, it means that (unless this was recently fixed) you have to modprobe it
> manually (e.g. from rc.local) because nothing bothers trying to modprobe it
> for you anymore. IMHO, this is really broken, but the bug reports about it
> were ignored or declared
Karel Zak wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 09:37:37AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> The kernel maintainers don't
>> support the floppy module and the module hasn't been auto-loaded for
>> several releases.
>
> Does it mean that "modprobe floppy" does not work?
No, it means that (unless t
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On 2011/08/29 15:04 (GMT-0700) Jeremiah Summers composed:
> I just repatched Anaconda to use 512M
Literally? If so, does that work on systems with 512M installed but with 8M
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Brian C. Lane wrote:
>> selinux is a big example of
>> this, causing a large spike as it is installed.
>
> That should[1] no longer be an issue.
>
> [1] http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/45414.html
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
>>
>> In both cases I had 2 gigs of ram. Should not be a memory issue.
>
> That is more than enough. Please file a bug(s) and include the logs
> from /tmp/*log
>
> Memory us
Brian C. Lane wrote:
> selinux is a big example of
> this, causing a large spike as it is installed.
That should[1] no longer be an issue.
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
>
> In both cases I had 2 gigs of ram. Should not be a memory issue.
That is more than enough. Please file a bug(s) and include the logs
from /tmp/*log
Memory usage during install also depends on what the packages being
install
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Niels de Vos wrote:
> The builder I've enabled runs on the new OLPC within a chroot and that seems
> to work very well. I'm not sure if the kernel is a hfp one, but I don't
> think that was a requirement.
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commit ec1066b724d81d719af2f9008b506d55fbe7d9b2
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 19:13 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>> >
>> >> To participate, visit the following link:
>> >>
>> >> http://
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 19:13 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> >
> >> To participate, visit the following link:
> >>
> >> http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap/rootf
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>
>> To participate, visit the following link:
>>
>> http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap/rootfs_stage4_20110825/
>
> Just a quick update that we've had mock builde
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Karel Zak wrote:
> I'd like to remove:
>
> ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
>
> command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
> very small minority of Fedora users.
>
> Comments?
That would make me very sad. Instead
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 08:32:01AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:42:18 +0300, KL (Kalev) wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/29/2011 02:54 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to remove:
> >> >
> >> > ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
> >> >
> >> > command
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:31:09AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> > P.S. Your argument will be moot when the kernel drops the floppy module.
>
> Is there actually a plan for this to happen? Curious, not arguing here.
Not any time soon.
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On 08/29/2011 07:46 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Otherwise, make
>> ddate a sub package and don't install it by default. Solved?
> As an upstream the willingness of distributions to strip out commands
> which I wanted to provide and don'
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> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:27:40 -0500, JC (Jon) wrote:
>
>> I'm not suggesting ddate is mission-critical, I just want reasons for
>> it's
>> removal or re-packaging to be well thought-out, not simply "gosh, I
>> don't
>> sue that, so. . .". Otherwise we'll start dropping games.
>
> Sure (and not l
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 01:25:52PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
Hello Harald,
> currently "updates-testing" offers GVV 4.6.1 (thank you!)
> but "libtool" needs a rebuild for dependencies
> this time the rebuild runs on my testing-VM to rebuild all my packages
> later on this machine with new GCC,
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:03 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> On 08/25/2011 05:28 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote:
> >
> > You're probably referring to the updates 2.2->2.4 in '07 and 2.4->2.6 in
> > '08 but please keep in mind that we're stuck with 2.6.x as the stable
> > branch since then, so there's no rea
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:27:40 -0500, JC (Jon) wrote:
> I'm not suggesting ddate is mission-critical, I just want reasons for it's
> removal or re-packaging to be well thought-out, not simply "gosh, I don't
> sue that, so. . .". Otherwise we'll start dropping games.
Sure (and not limited to games,
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> Jos Vos wrote:
>> We just have to wait till people come up with the argument that serial
>> or parallel ports don't exist anymore.
>
> No. You're making an apples to orange comparison. Just like Jon has done
> this whole thread.
>
> This bike shedding as gone on long enough.
Playing devil's adv
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:47:40 -0500, JC (Jon) wrote:
>
>> >> The Julian and Gregorian calendars are also of religious origin.
>> >
>> > Apples and oranges.
>> >
>> > Do you find anything like in the "SEE ALSO" section of "man ddate"
>> also
>> > in "man date"?
>
>> That may be (both are human con
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 08:47:40AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>> That may be (both are human constructs, it's like say "hey, that's made
>> up
>> word!", but no, I don't. My point is simply that while it is extremely
>> silly code, it is in fact code provided by upstream. It's still
>> maintaine
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 09:37:37AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Chris Adams wrote:
> > Why does util-linux have two floppy disk formatters (/usr/bin/floppy and
> > /usr/sbin/fdformat)?
>
> Why does it have any floppy tools any more?
because we still support floppy devices?
> The kernel m
On 08/29/2011 05:00 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 08:47:40AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>> That may be (both are human constructs, it's like say "hey, that's made up
>> word!", but no, I don't. My point is simply that while it is extremely
>> silly code, it is in fact code provided
Jos Vos wrote:
> We just have to wait till people come up with the argument that serial
> or parallel ports don't exist anymore.
No. You're making an apples to orange comparison. Just like Jon has done
this whole thread.
This bike shedding as gone on long enough.
Remove ddate. Karel, you're ups
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:47:40 -0500, JC (Jon) wrote:
> >> The Julian and Gregorian calendars are also of religious origin.
> >
> > Apples and oranges.
> >
> > Do you find anything like in the "SEE ALSO" section of "man ddate" also
> > in "man date"?
> That may be (both are human constructs, it's l
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 08:47:40AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> That may be (both are human constructs, it's like say "hey, that's made up
> word!", but no, I don't. My point is simply that while it is extremely
> silly code, it is in fact code provided by upstream. It's still
> maintained, is of a
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 09:44:33AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> Because there are still people with floppy drives?
+1
It's ridiculous to think that older HW doesn't exist because systems
with that HW are not sold anymore (I don't even know id the latter
is true at all -- some special purpose syste
> Chris Adams wrote:
>> Why does util-linux have two floppy disk formatters (/usr/bin/floppy and
>> /usr/sbin/fdformat)?
>
> Why does it have any floppy tools any more? The kernel maintainers don't
> support the floppy module and the module hasn't been auto-loaded for
> several releases.
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Chris Adams wrote:
> Why does util-linux have two floppy disk formatters (/usr/bin/floppy and
> /usr/sbin/fdformat)?
Why does it have any floppy tools any more? The kernel maintainers don't
support the floppy module and the module hasn't been auto-loaded for
several releases.
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> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Rahul Sundaram
> wrote:
>>Â Otherwise, Â make
>> ddate a sub package and don't install it by default. Â Solved?
>
> As an upstream the willingness of distributions to strip out commands
> which I wanted to provide and don't offer a build option to disable
> via
Once upon a time, Jon Ciesla said:
> > On 08/29/2011 05:24 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
> > IIRC, you are upstream for this and could do this change upstream and
> > then, there wouldn't be a debate about this here. Otherwise, make
> > ddate a sub package and don't install it by default. Solved?
> >
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Otherwise, make
> ddate a sub package and don't install it by default. Solved?
As an upstream the willingness of distributions to strip out commands
which I wanted to provide and don't offer a build option to disable
via sub-packaging wi
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> On 08/29/2011 05:24 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
>> I'd like to remove:
>>
>> ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
>>
>> command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
>> very small minority of Fedora users.
>>
>> Comments?
>
> IIRC, you are upstream for thi
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On 08/29/2011 05:24 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
> I'd like to remove:
>
> ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
>
> command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
> very small minority of Fedora users.
>
> Comments?
IIRC, you are upstream for this and could do
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> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:32:01 -0500, JC (Jon) wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:42:18 +0300, KL (Kalev) wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 08/29/2011 02:54 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd like to remove:
>> >> >
>> >> > ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
>> >> >
>> >> > c
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:32:01 -0500, JC (Jon) wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:42:18 +0300, KL (Kalev) wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/29/2011 02:54 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to remove:
> >> >
> >> > ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
> >> >
> >> > command from r
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> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:42:18 +0300, KL (Kalev) wrote:
>
>> On 08/29/2011 02:54 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
>> >
>> > I'd like to remove:
>> >
>> > ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
>> >
>> > command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
>> > very small mi
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:42:18 +0300, KL (Kalev) wrote:
> On 08/29/2011 02:54 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to remove:
> >
> > ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
> >
> > command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
> > very small minority of
On 08/29/2011 02:54 PM, Karel Zak wrote:
>
> I'd like to remove:
>
> ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
>
> command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
> very small minority of Fedora users.
>
> Comments?
Please do. This isn't really something
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:25:18 -0500, JC (Jon) wrote:
>
> > On Monday, August 29, 2011, 7:54:10 AM, Karel Zak wrote:
> >> I'd like to remove:
> >> ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
> >
> >> command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
> >> very small
> On Monday, August 29, 2011, 7:54:10 AM, Karel Zak wrote:
>> I'd like to remove:
>> ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
>
>> command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
>> very small minority of Fedora users.
>> Comments?
>
> Why does it matter
On Monday, August 29, 2011, 7:54:10 AM, Karel Zak wrote:
> I'd like to remove:
> ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
> command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
> very small minority of Fedora users.
> Comments?
Why does it matter to you?
On 08/25/2011 05:28 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote:
>
> You're probably referring to the updates 2.2->2.4 in '07 and 2.4->2.6 in
> '08 but please keep in mind that we're stuck with 2.6.x as the stable
> branch since then, so there's no reason to be gloomy about the Fedora
> side just yet.
I remember ho
I'd like to remove:
ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
very small minority of Fedora users.
Comments?
Karel
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