Re: Introducing Square 1

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:00 PM Troy Dawson wrote: > > I would like to introduce a plan I call Square 1 [1][2] > > There are two goals to Square 1. > The first is to get, and keep, the core buildroot[3] packages, > self-hosting[4]. > The second is to get the list of core buildroot packages as sma

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

On 11/18/19 7:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 9:34 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/18/19 3:40 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: Fabio Valentini wrote: Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 9:34 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/18/19 3:40 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: > > > >> Fabio Valentini wrote: > >>> Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? > >> > >> IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fu

Re: bug 1767576 in fedora-review / mock and relative workarounds

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 6:31 AM Germano Massullo wrote: > > Hello, in comment > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767576#c7 > I wrote my experience about fedora-review / mock bug that returns message > %{python3_pkgversion} expanded too early. > > As workaround I renamed > python3-dateu

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity Team (weekly)

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity Team (weekly) on 2019-11-19 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 UTC At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting of the Modularity Team. More information available at: [Modularity Team Docs](https://docs.pagure.o

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

On 11/18/19 3:40 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: Fabio Valentini wrote: Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form the current remains of the Java SIG and create a new J

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 18:40 -0500, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: > > > Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? > > > > IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form > > the > > current re

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

- Original Message - > From: "Gerald Henriksen" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 6:40:54 PM > Subject: Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG? > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: > > >Fabio Valentini wrote:

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: >Fabio Valentini wrote: >> Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? > >IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form the >current remains of the Java SIG and create a new Java SIG from scratch that >actually cares

Re: Eclipse and Fedora 31

On 18. 11. 19 21:47, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:14 PM Miro Hrončok > wrote: On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > Dear Eclipse users, > Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is beyo

Re: Eclipse and Fedora 31

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:14 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > Dear Eclipse users, > > Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is > beyond us > > (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora > land both

Re: Eclipse and Fedora 31

On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: Dear Eclipse users, Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is beyond us (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora land both technical and political. There are no political issues here, FESCo

Eclipse and Fedora 31

Dear Eclipse users, Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is beyond us (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora land both technical and political. Until this is fixed, you're strongly recommended to try using Eclipse from Flathub [1]. It shou

Re: [fedora-java] Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

Alex Scheel wrote: > A number of these packages exist as ursine packages precisely because > you've made them BUILDROOT-only! We, the Dogtag team, asked you to > reconsider that choice because we needed these as runtime dependencies, > not build-time only. You declined and said our choices were to

Orphaning js-jquery-file-upload

Would anybody like to maintain js-jquery-file-upload? If not, I will orphan it. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/js-jquery-file-upload signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproj

Re: Modularity and all the things

Petr Pisar wrote: > In your example the the packager maintains 4 versions (in the sense of > dist-git branches and builds submitted to Koji) of the software > (FXX fish 3, FXX+1 fish 4, stream 3 fish 3, stream 4 fish 4). > > That's exactly what you as a package does not want. Igor's approach > ena

Re: Question about libtirpc CNAME Change.

Hello, On 11/18/19 10:44 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Steve Dickson: > >> In a recent upstream commit, the outdated, unsupported >> AUTH_DES authentication is now compiled out by default. >> >> This does effect the API, but does it really need a CNAME change >> since it interface can be recompil

Re: Orphaning two security packages

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 04:21:44PM +, Ian McInerney wrote: > I would be willing to take on Zulucrypt, since I use it, but I will need > someone to sponsor me as a packager (I am not in the group). Hey, Ian, drop me and email off list and I can see about sponsoring you and helping you maintain

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 13:37 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? > > IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form > the > current remains of the Java SIG and create a new Java SIG from > scratch that

Re: Question about libtirpc CNAME Change.

* Steve Dickson: > In a recent upstream commit, the outdated, unsupported > AUTH_DES authentication is now compiled out by default. > > This does effect the API, but does it really need a CNAME change > since it interface can be recompiled back in? > > The reason I ask, change libtirpc's CNAME wi

Re: Modularity and all the things

On 2019-10-24, Lukas Ruzicka wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:40 AM Igor Gnatenko < > ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> This is also not only about maintainers, but end >> users too: >> >> FXX: fish 3.x is non-modular, stream 4.x exists >> FXX+1: fish 4.x is non-modular, stream 3.x ex

Re: Intent to retire OCE (OpenCascade Community Edition)

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 8:26 AM Ian McInerney wrote: > Richard, > > FYI, it appears that you can actually download the source packages from a > public-facing git repository on their site (instead of having to link > through the login page as your spec currently does). > > The Git repository is: h

Re: Intent to retire OCE (OpenCascade Community Edition)

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 3:59 PM Ian McInerney wrote: > A repoquery for build-requires on the OCE-devel package only gives these 4 > packages: > gmsh-0:4.4.1-3.fc32.src > kicad-1:5.1.4-5.fc32.src > netgen-mesher-0:6.2.1810-4.fc32.src > smesh-0:6.7.5-7.fc31.src > I started working on smesh but was

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2019-11-18)

I think I broke the meetbot, so there are no logs online (the URLs below don't work). We just voted on one issue: #2268, and it was rejected (0, 0, -6). I'll chair the next meeting. A transcript: 15:06 < bookwar> .hello2 15:06 <@zodbot> bookwar: bookwar 'Aleksandra Fedorova' 15:06 < jforbes> .h

Question about libtirpc CNAME Change.

Hello, In a recent upstream commit, the outdated, unsupported AUTH_DES authentication is now compiled out by default. This does effect the API, but does it really need a CNAME change since it interface can be recompiled back in? The reason I ask, change libtirpc's CNAME will require a large num

Re: which old version of fedora can read a old iRIX XFS filesystem ?

On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 at 21:13, J. Scheurich wrote: > > Hi, > > When trying to mount a old SGI IRIX64 XFS filesystem, current Linux > versions complain with: > There are going to be a bunch of problems trying to mount this depending on how old the partition is: https://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ Q:

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

- Original Message - > From: "Mikolaj Izdebski" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "java-devel" > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 5:42:20 AM > Subject: Re: What's the State of the Java SIG? ~snip~ > Maintenance of obsolete packages is non-goal for Java SIG. A n

Re: Intent to retire OCE (OpenCascade Community Edition)

Richard, FYI, it appears that you can actually download the source packages from a public-facing git repository on their site (instead of having to link through the login page as your spec currently does). The Git repository is: https://git.dev.opencascade.org/gitweb/?p=occt.git The source links

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:33 PM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 12:17 PM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > On Monday, November 18, 2019 3:42:20 AM MST Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > > IMHO effort spent on maintenance of most of these ursine Java packages > > > is mostly wasted

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

Fabio Valentini wrote: > Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form the current remains of the Java SIG and create a new Java SIG from scratch that actually cares about packaging Java properly in and for (non-modular

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 12:17 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Monday, November 18, 2019 3:42:20 AM MST Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > IMHO effort spent on maintenance of most of these ursine Java packages > > is mostly wasted effort. As I said before, many times, these packages > > should be retir

Re: What are the benefits of default modular streams over non-modular packages?

Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > As Petr Pisar noted earlier, default streams are designed to deliver the > same user experience as ursine packages, therefore there is no *direct* > advantage or disadvantage of them over ursine packages, for Fedora > *users*. Sorry, the "no disadvantage" part is just not

bug 1767576 in fedora-review / mock and relative workarounds

Hello, in comment https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767576#c7 I wrote my experience about fedora-review / mock bug that returns message %{python3_pkgversion} expanded too early. As workaround I renamed python3-dateutil-2.8.0-2.fc30.src.rpm to pythonX-dateutil-2.8.0-2.fc30.src.rpm but fe

Re: What are the benefits of default modular streams over non-modular packages?

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:59 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > I've asked whether it wouldn't be in fact much easier to keep the default > versions of our packages non-modular. > > Others have said they are interested in this as well. A huge thread happened > but > it hasn't delivered an answer. > Argumen

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

Hi, Vit, On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:57 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 14. 11. 19 v 16:13 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:19 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> I wonder who is doing to clean up all the mess in dist-git we have due > >> to modularity. specifically, I wonder abo

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

On Monday, November 18, 2019 3:42:20 AM MST Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > IMHO effort spent on maintenance of most of these ursine Java packages > is mostly wasted effort. As I said before, many times, these packages > should be retired and replaced by modular packages, which are > maintained by Java S

Re: Please welcome Julen (@jlanda) to the packager group

Welcome! JT On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 05:51 Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hello! > > Please welcome Julen (@jlanda) to the packager group. I have just > sponsored them > to it now[1]. They're interested in helping with the zathura related > packages that I took over recently, and are also interested in help

Re: Please welcome Julen (@jlanda) to the packager group

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Please welcome Julen (@jlanda) to the packager group

Hello! Please welcome Julen (@jlanda) to the packager group. I have just sponsored them to it now[1]. They're interested in helping with the zathura related packages that I took over recently, and are also interested in helping with Python packages in Fedora. I will help them learn the complete pa

Re: scalapack 2.1 in rawhide

Hi, Tom. On Monday, 18 November 2019 at 05:53, Tom Callaway wrote: > Hi Fedorans, [...] > I kicked off rebuilds of cp2k, gpaw and MUMPS that reflect this change. Thanks! Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://getfedora.org | RPM Fusion http://rpmfusion.org There should be a science of disconte

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

Hi, On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > You're probably aware that the Stewardship SIG has been picking up > some (±230) Java packages to keep them from getting removed from > fedora, and to try to keep them maintained. Since the fraction of > out-of-date packages has fallen

What's the State of the Java SIG?

Hi everybody, You're probably aware that the Stewardship SIG has been picking up some (±230) Java packages to keep them from getting removed from fedora, and to try to keep them maintained. Since the fraction of out-of-date packages has fallen from 70% to 30% (with 0 FTBFS issues left), I think we

Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2019-11-18)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2019-11-18 15:00 UTC' (Beware that the DST has end

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Build Python 3 to statically link with libpython3.8.a for better performance

* John Reiser: Thinking aloud: does anyone ever use symbol overriding for anything other than glibc? > >>> Yes. It is particularly useful for "spear fishing" debugging of lower-level >>> interfaces in large, complex multi-process applications. > >> That only seems to need shallow interp