https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1782932
Fedora Update System changed:
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On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 11:00 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 9:46:21 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:32 PM John M. Harris Jr
> > wrote:
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> > > It simply is not where we are now, nor have we been "for a while".
> >
> >
> > Based on what
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 9:46:21 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:32 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
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> > On Sunday, December 15, 2019 9:14:53 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
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> > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:48 PM John M. Harris Jr
> > >
> > > wrote:
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> > > >
Hello Orion and Kevin,
We are almost ready to submit an updated DMTCP version. Would you prefer
we put the srpm/spec at a public location for a review request, or just use
fedpkg?
Also after performing Koji and running rpmlint on the srpm and spec, is
there anything else we would need to do to
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:32 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 9:14:53 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:48 PM John M. Harris Jr
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > While that may be representative of "where the market is going", it's not
> > >
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 9:03:06 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/
Fedora_32_Final_Release_Criteria#OS_X_dual_boot
Thank you, I'll see if anyone actually tests that, and see if we can get a
Change proposal to drop that requirement if not.
>
> >It's certainly true
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 9:14:53 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:48 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
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> >
> > While that may be representative of "where the market is going", it's not
> > representative of where we are. Please keep in mind that we support far
> > more
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:55 PM Ryan Walklin wrote:
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> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, at 1:45 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
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> > The netinstall:
> > * is not usable offline,
> > * in particular, is a pain to set up if all you have is a WPA-protected
> > WLAN,
> > * or in particular, will not work at all if
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 9:03:43 PM MST Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
>
> > This change is about testing those ISO images, and whether or not those
> > ISO images are release-blocking. If it's not a valid CD image (meaning
> > it wouldn't boot when put into
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:48 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> While that may be representative of "where the market is going", it's not
> representative of where we are. Please keep in mind that we support far more
> than just the latest generation hardware. We don't support quite as much as
>
Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
> This change is about testing those ISO images, and whether or not those ISO
> images are release-blocking. If it's not a valid CD image (meaning it
> wouldn't
> boot when put into a real disk drive), it most likely wouldn't work in the
> virtual CD
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:37 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 6:55:04 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:48 PM John M. Harris Jr
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sunday, December 15, 2019 5:13:22 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > >
> > > > I spent
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 8:44:29 PM MST Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
>
> > That would be affected by this change, as... that's a virtual CD. It'd
> > have to be a valid, working CD image.
>
>
> This change is about only physical optical media, not the ISO
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 8:36:15 PM MST Ryan Walklin wrote:
> It's a combination of the standard TianoCore/ED2K UEFI implementation with a
> handy UI/boot menu. I'm just making the point that you can use a
> combination of a rescue CD which doesn't need to be constantly upgraded and
> a
Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
> That would be affected by this change, as... that's a virtual CD. It'd have
> to
> be a valid, working CD image.
This change is about only physical optical media, not the ISO images.
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Chris Adams
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On Sunday, December 15, 2019 8:12:55 PM MST Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
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> > I can provide an example or two, but I'd rather not waste time compiling a
> > list. A good example, any server using iDRAC6,7,8 or 9, such as a
> > PowerEdge R440. These are in the
> I can provide an example or two, but I'd rather not waste time compiling a
> list. A good example, any server using iDRAC6,7,8 or 9, such as a PowerEdge
> R440. These are in the interesting edge case that I mentioned, where it
> supports USB boot if you physically connect a USB drive, but
Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
> I can provide an example or two, but I'd rather not waste time compiling a
> list. A good example, any server using iDRAC6,7,8 or 9, such as a PowerEdge
> R440. These are in the interesting edge case that I mentioned, where it
> supports USB boot if
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 7:54:05 PM MST Ryan Walklin wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, at 1:39 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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>
> > Please see the examples cited earlier in the thread, of systems that
> > cannot be installed from USB.
>
>
> Those are pretty vague references to old workstations
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, at 1:39 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> Please see the examples cited earlier in the thread, of systems that cannot
> be
> installed from USB.
Those are pretty vague references to old workstations and servers rather than
specific make/model. Can you not use a generic
Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
> We don't support quite as much as
> Debian, but we have many users who don't have UEFI, or have early UEFI
> firmware, which doesn't support USB boot.
There's no requirement for UEFI boot - if for some reason a system
doesn't support USB under UEFI,
Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
> In fact, I just checked, and they're a standard offering
> on ALL of the current line Dell workstations which are RHEL certified.
Also, this is not true. I found the Dell Linux workstation page, and no
models on that page include an optical drive in
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 7:38:43 PM MST Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
>
> > As explained earlier in this thread, DVD drives are still a standard
> > offering on prebuilt systems. In fact, I just checked, and they're a
> > standard offering on ALL of the
Chris Murphy wrote:
> But therein lies the advantage of a simpler optical only image, less
> likelihood for such regressions. And any netinstall can be pointed to
> any release repo, so it's not like you must have a release version of
> the image - in the worst case scenario you still wouldn't be
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 7:37:06 PM MST Ryan Walklin wrote:
> Presumably they all also have USB ports though? I'd be more concerned about
> this if there were significant amounts of hardware without USB drives that
> had optical drives. I'd wager the reverse (Ultrabooks, any new laptop, NUCs
Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
> As explained earlier in this thread, DVD drives are still a standard offering
> on prebuilt systems. In fact, I just checked, and they're a standard offering
> on ALL of the current line Dell workstations which are RHEL certified.
The number of Dell
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 6:55:04 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:48 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, December 15, 2019 5:13:22 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > I spent about 15 minutes on this and found exactly zero systems with
> > > DVD
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, at 1:29 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Three years ago I did a more involved search when looking for a new
> > laptop. Zero optical drives in new hardware. Only as external
> > accessory add-ons.
>
> Then you did not search well. The ThinkPad L440 my mother
Chris Murphy wrote:
> Three years ago I did a more involved search when looking for a new
> laptop. Zero optical drives in new hardware. Only as external
> accessory add-ons.
Then you did not search well. The ThinkPad L440 my mother bought in 2016 has
an optical drive. And even now, there are
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 2:32 PM Kevin Kofler wrote:
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> Frantisek Zatloukal wrote:
> > Just note that I mean blocking by "supported". I am not talking about
> > dropping capability of installation from optical media.
>
> But if:
> * QA does not test it, and
> * even if somebody tests it and finds
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:48 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 5:13:22 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > I spent about 15 minutes on this and found exactly zero systems with
> > DVD drives, even as an option, on the Apple and Microsoft stores. None
> > for System76. And
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1777821
Fedora Update System changed:
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On Sunday, December 15, 2019 5:13:22 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> I spent about 15 minutes on this and found exactly zero systems with
> DVD drives, even as an option, on the Apple and Microsoft stores. None
> for System76. And none for HP. I did find DVD drives a custom build
> option on Dell's
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 4:39 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 1:53:15 PM MST Frantisek Zatloukal wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:05 PM John M. Harris Jr
> >
> > wrote:
> > > That was not brought up elsewhere in this thread. Who is considering this,
> > > and
> >
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 1:53:15 PM MST Frantisek Zatloukal wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:05 PM John M. Harris Jr
>
> wrote:
> > That was not brought up elsewhere in this thread. Who is considering this,
> > and
> > why? That would mean that a large portion of users would *not be able
Frantisek Zatloukal wrote:
> Just note that I mean blocking by "supported". I am not talking about
> dropping capability of installation from optical media.
But if:
* QA does not test it, and
* even if somebody tests it and finds it broken, the release will not get
delayed for it,
this can
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:05 PM John M. Harris Jr
wrote:
> That was not brought up elsewhere in this thread. Who is considering this,
> and
> why? That would mean that a large portion of users would *not be able to
> install Fedora*.
>
Just note that I mean blocking by "supported". I am not
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 12:29:18 PM MST Frantisek Zatloukal wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:52 PM John M. Harris Jr
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> wrote:
> > Not working means broken.
>
> Part of this proposal is removing optical media from supported installation
> methods.
That was not brought up elsewhere in
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Juts a random idea, not very thought-out:
>
> Could we keep optical media bugs reported by users as blocking, but not
> require
> it during validation testing?
>
>
> aka: Fedora QE would no longer have to verify optical media works.
> but:
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:52 PM John M. Harris Jr
wrote:
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> Not working means broken.
>
Part of this proposal is removing optical media from supported installation
methods.
>From your point of view, Fedora is broken right now because, for example,
it doesn't work from USB Media created by
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 11:35:16 AM MST Frantisek Zatloukal wrote:
> No, this doesn't mean it'd be possible to ship a release with broken
> installer image. Just that it wouldn't need to work from CD/DVD doesn't
> make it broken.
Not working means broken.
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John M. Harris, Jr.
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On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 6:15 PM John M. Harris Jr
wrote:
> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 10:02:19 AM MST alcir...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hello all.
> > Sorry but as far as I can understand, and as stated in the proposal as
> > well by other people, the possibility to boot from optical media will
>
Thank you for supporting me.
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On Sunday, December 15, 2019 10:02:19 AM MST alcir...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello all.
> Sorry but as far as I can understand, and as stated in the proposal as
> well by other people, the possibility to boot from optical media will
> be not dropped.
> Nobody is stating that we will prevent Fedora to
Hello all.
Sorry but as far as I can understand, and as stated in the proposal as
well by other people, the possibility to boot from optical media will
be not dropped.
Nobody is stating that we will prevent Fedora to boot from a DVD.
As far as I can say, if you look here:
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20191214.n.1
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20191215.n.0
= SUMMARY =
Added images:1
Dropped images: 0
Added packages: 2
Dropped packages:10
Upgraded packages: 23
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 1.18 MiB
Size of dropped packages
No missing expected images.
Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
3 of 43 required tests failed
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING**
below
Failed openQA tests: 15/165 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm)
Old failures (same test failed in
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 8:18 PM Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jerry James wrote:
> > $ gcc -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-ld test.c -o test
> > -lpthread /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccWdPlbg.o: `pthread_create@@GLIBC_2.2'
> > non-PLT reloc for symbol defined in shared library and accessed from
> >
I am going to repost here my answer from the RPM Fusion mailing list:
Martin Gansser wrote:
> f31 [1]:
> Checking for pkg-config opengl ... no
> Checking for opengl ... yes
> adding -lGL to LIBS_X11
> adding -lGLU to LIBS_X11
>
> f32[2]:
> Checking for pkg-config opengl ... adding
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1781565
Emmanuel Seyman changed:
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CC|
Dear maintainers.
Based on the latest fail to build from source policy, the following packages
will be retired from Fedora 32 approximately one week before branching (February
2020).
Policy:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/
The
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1783703
Emmanuel Seyman changed:
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Status|NEW |CLOSED
Fixed In Version|
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1782281
Emmanuel Seyman changed:
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On 15. 12. 19 10:09, Fabio Valentini wrote:> The new bodhi homepage is a good
step in this direction, it already
lists "active" updates and "active" buildroot overrides, which is
nice:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
That's where I started.
Collecting this information + open PRs +
Hi,
when running a koji build for rawhide
koji-rpmfusion build --scratch rawhide-free
../SRPMS/vdr-xineliboutput-2.1.0-16.20191117git32a5ffc.fc31.src.rpm
it get this errors [1]:
/usr/bin/ld: xine_sxfe_frontend.o: in function `opengl_init':
ok, i will change it and inform the developer of vdr.
Many Thanks
Martin
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On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 7:22 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> Greetings.
Hi Kevin,
> I just thought I would share a short status update on koji builders with
> everyone. As many of you know, we like to keep the Fedora koji builders
> on the current most recent stable Fedora release. This is to make
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:03 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
>
> Hello devel,
Hey Miro!
> I got nerdslipped and I ahve created some HTML only mockup of a thing that I
> find very useful. A Fedora Packager Dashboard.
>
> You can find the early mockup at:
>
> https://hroncok.cz/packager-dashboard-mockup/
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