Re: Chown checkstyle, checkstyle-maven-plugin, google-http-java-client

2020-01-29 Thread Felix Schwarz
Hi Bill, Am 30.01.20 um 07:25 schrieb Bill Chatfield via devel: > According the procedure for retired packages, I'm announcing my intention to > take ownership of checkstyle, checkstyle-maven-plugin, and > google-http-java-client. They are all retired as far as I can tell. Welcome to Fedora - I'm

Chown checkstyle, checkstyle-maven-plugin, google-http-java-client

2020-01-29 Thread Bill Chatfield via devel
According the procedure for retired packages, I'm announcing my intention to take ownership of checkstyle, checkstyle-maven-plugin, and google-http-java-client. They are all retired as far as I can tell. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproje

review swap , nodejs packages need some updates

2020-01-29 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, I took js-jquery-file-upload package to save js-query , I updated [1] but we still need update nodejs-multimatch [2], nodejs-p-limit [3] and nodejs-lodash [4] at least ! To update nodejs-p-limit, we need nodejs-p-try which isn't in Fedora, here is the package review request [5] [1] rpms

Re: RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

2020-01-29 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
On 1/30/20 3:19 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:26:56PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> Here is an initial (albeit randomly generated) proposal of X and Y: >> >> severity CRITICAL/HIGH MEDIUM LOW >> X 2 4 6 >> Y

Re: RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

2020-01-29 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
On 1/30/20 8:32 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Miro Hrončok wrote: >> My idea was that within half a year, it should be wither fixed or CLOSED >> as WONTFIX or UPSTREAM. If we don't agree, I'm completely fine making it >> 12 months or even ignore such bugs in the policy entirely. > > I don't see how it

Re: RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

2020-01-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miro Hrončok wrote: > My idea was that within half a year, it should be wither fixed or CLOSED > as WONTFIX or UPSTREAM. If we don't agree, I'm completely fine making it > 12 months or even ignore such bugs in the policy entirely. I don't see how it is an improvement to close security fixes that a

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Dan Čermák
Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:51:29PM +0100, Dan Čermák wrote: >> "Richard W.M. Jones" writes: >> >> > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. >> > It's possible to maintain 20 with a lot of work. And if you want to >> > maintain 100+ (thin

Re: [security] only latest Qt 5.14.1 has all fixes

2020-01-29 Thread Damian Ivanov
Hello Rex, >So, we (kde-sign, Qt maintainers) generally update strategically where it >makes sense to warrant the time investment in doing so. I understand. Also that some people contribute it in their free time/or paid time (but not mandatory to contribute), which of course means a lot. I under

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:52:53PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Julen Landa Alustiza writes: > > > (snip) > > > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > >> To me that's the all point of this > >> process, let's put down what we *really* *really* need and  then look at > >>

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 17:19 Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:23, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:35 AM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 00:08, Leigh Griffin > wrote: > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 22:06 Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > >> >>

Re: RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

2020-01-29 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 29. 01. 20 22:49, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:26:56PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: Here is an initial (albeit randomly generated) proposal of X and Y: severity CRITICAL/HIGH MEDIUM LOW X 2 4 6 Y 2

Re: RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

2020-01-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:26:56PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Here is an initial (albeit randomly generated) proposal of X and Y: > > severity CRITICAL/HIGH MEDIUM LOW > X 2 4 6 > Y 2 4 6 In RHEL, low impact secu

RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

2020-01-29 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello, Fedora has an approved security policy since September 2018 [0]: If a CRITICAL or IMPORTANT security issue is currently open against a package, or a security issue of lower severity has been open for at least 6 months, four weeks before the branch point a procedure similar to long-standin

Re: Review swaps - practrand - Software package for the Randon number generation & testing

2020-01-29 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 01:18:48 +0100, Jiri Hladky wrote: > Hi, Hi Jirka, > I have a simple package for review. It's called practrand - a Software package > for the Randon number generation & testing > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1795461 I see that it hasn't been taken up for revie

Re: How to handle circular build dependencies?

2020-01-29 Thread Markku Korkeala
Rex Dieter kirjoitti 28.1.2020 16:57: Markku Korkeala wrote: Hi, sorry if this a newbie question, I tried to search this but did not find good documentation on this problem. I'm in the process of upgrading the clojure package to next version, which has new dependencies. These dependencies req

Re: How to handle circular build dependencies?

2020-01-29 Thread Markku Korkeala
Richard W.M. Jones kirjoitti 27.1.2020 22:35: On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 06:43:36PM +0200, Markku Korkeala wrote: I think it's Perl where IIRC the package can be configured as a bootstrap package (by setting an RPM variable), built that way, the dependencies are then built, then the perl package is

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 7:18 AM Remi Collet wrote: > There are different: > > * Changelog is for end user > * Git log is for package maintainer I completely agree with this distinction. We're creating more "noise" for end users if we end up adding all the "whoops" commits into the %changelog. An

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 18:26, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 11:38, Clement Verna > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:18, Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > >> > > >> these heroics related to pagure? > >> > >> If not, I'm not sure what is the point you were tryin

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Robbie Harwood
Julen Landa Alustiza writes: > (snip) > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: >> To me that's the all point of this >> process, let's put down what we *really* *really* need and  then look at >> the different options. >> > > Do we *really* *really* need to compete with othe

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:56, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 15:56 +0100, Clement Verna wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza < > jla...@fedoraproject.org> > > wrote: > > > > > (snip) > > > > > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > >

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 11:38, Clement Verna wrote: > > > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:18, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: >> >> these heroics related to pagure? >> >> If not, I'm not sure what is the point you were trying to make for this >> thread. > > > My point is that we have to dedicate a team to

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:18, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > > 2020(e)ko urtarrilaren 29(a) 15:56:08 (CET)-(e)an, Clement Verna < > cve...@fedoraproject.org>-(e)k hau idatzi zuen: > >On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza > > > >wrote: > > > >> (snip) > >> > >> 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clem

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:23, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:35 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: >> >> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 00:08, Leigh Griffin wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 22:06 Iñaki Ucar wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 20:58, Leigh Griffin wrote: >> >> > >> >

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:18, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 03:56:08PM +0100, Clement Verna wrote: > >On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza > > wrote: > > > > (snip) > > > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > To me

Re: [security] only latest Qt 5.14.1 has all fixes

2020-01-29 Thread Rex Dieter
Damian Ivanov wrote: > But it's not the only CVE fixed with Qt 5.14.1 > The point is that there is other software using Qt which doesn't start > with K even though K works just fine with 5.14 by the experience of other > distributions. Bumping Qt versions is... a fairly difficult process in fedor

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 16:17 +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > 2020(e)ko urtarrilaren 29(a) 15:56:08 (CET)-(e)an, Clement Verna > -(e)k hau idatzi zuen: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza > > > > wrote: > > > > > (snip) > > > > > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorle

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 15:56 +0100, Clement Verna wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: > > > (snip) > > > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > To me that's the all point of this > > > process, let's put down what we *really* *really* need a

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Florian Weimer
* Neal Gompa: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:07 AM Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: >> >> Per git ref acls is not a common thing on git forges. If this is a final >> requirement, we should start analyzing the viability of implementing and >> maintain it on the different forges (and it should be feas

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 09:46, Damian Ivanov wrote: > > >That is looking for a boogeyman under the bed to blame something that > >has a long long history of not happening. Ever since OBS has been out, > >there has been a yearly 'why isn't Fedora moving to OBS' thread > > It has always been a bad ma

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 3:30 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 04:06:22PM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > >Per git ref acls is not a common thing on git forges. If this is a > final > >requirement, we should start analyzing the viability of implementing > and > >

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:07 AM Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > Per git ref acls is not a common thing on git forges. If this is a final > requirement, we should start analyzing the viability of implementing and > maintain it on the different forges (and it should be feasible with all of > the

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 04:06:22PM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: >Per git ref acls is not a common thing on git forges. If this is a final >requirement, we should start analyzing the viability of implementing and >maintain it on the different forges (and it should be feasible with

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 03:56:08PM +0100, Clement Verna wrote: >On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: > > (snip) > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > > To me that's the all point of this > > process, let's put down what we *

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
2020(e)ko urtarrilaren 29(a) 15:56:08 (CET)-(e)an, Clement Verna -(e)k hau idatzi zuen: >On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza > >wrote: > >> (snip) >> >> 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: >> > To me that's the all point of this >> > process, let's put down what

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-29 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Stephen John Smoogen" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 8:47:46 AM > Subject: Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 05:14, Andrew Haley wrote: > > > > On 1/27/20 3:13 PM, Alex

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:35 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 00:08, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 22:06 Iñaki Ucar wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 20:58, Leigh Griffin > wrote: > >> > > >> > This thread is serving as a source of requirements (althoug

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:07:55AM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 09:43 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > Also AIUI fedpkg chain-build doesn't work except in > > Rawhide, although I'm not sure why that is? > > It doesn't work in stable because you need to create buildroot >

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Randy Barlow
On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 09:43 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Also AIUI fedpkg chain-build doesn't work except in > Rawhide, although I'm not sure why that is? It doesn't work in stable because you need to create buildroot overrides for each dependency before you can proceed with building the nex

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
Per git ref acls is not a common thing on git forges. If this is a final requirement, we should start analyzing the viability of implementing and maintain it on the different forges (and it should be feasible with all of the rest of our strange ACLs on dist-git) On pagure side, now that our dow

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > (snip) > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > > To me that's the all point of this > > process, let's put down what we *really* *really* need and then look at > > the different options. > > > > Do we *really* *reall

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 05:14, Andrew Haley wrote: > > On 1/27/20 3:13 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: > > N.B.: I'd like to thank the Red Hat JVM team for being solid in > > their Fedora execution. But they maintain only the JVM, and not > > the rest of the Java ecosystem. :-) > > Thank you. > > One (perha

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Damian Ivanov
>That is looking for a boogeyman under the bed to blame something that >has a long long history of not happening. Ever since OBS has been out, >there has been a yearly 'why isn't Fedora moving to OBS' thread It has always been a bad management decision to not change. Ever since OBS has been out th

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 09:37:36AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:29 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 03:22:25PM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > > (snip) > > > > > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > >To me tha

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:29 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 03:22:25PM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > (snip) > > > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > > >To me that's the all point of this process, let's put down what we > > >*really* *real

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Damian Ivanov
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 4:05 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > And ... you lost me right there... > Pierre That's too bad. Even If it's sounds harsh it's the reality. It has been discussed before and there was no technical reason not to. Just someone going for a short term solution. Maybe it is tim

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 03:22:25PM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > (snip) > > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: > >To me that's the all point of this process, let's put down what we > >*really* *really* need and  then look at the different options. > > > > Do we *really

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 06:10, Damian Ivanov wrote: > > Maybe now that RH is part of IBM they have changed their short sighted view > of not collaborating on a better build system like OBS. That is looking for a boogeyman under the bed to blame something that has a long long history of not happen

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
(snip) 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen: To me that's the all point of this process, let's put down what we *really* *really* need and  then look at the different options. Do we *really* *really* need to compete with other full featured git forges on features? The ODF

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Remi Collet
Le 28/01/2020 à 10:03, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. > It's possible to maintain 20 with a lot of work. And if you want to > maintain 100+ (things like the ocaml-* set that I help to maintain) > then you have to write your own au

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-29 Thread Bill Chatfield via devel
That's one of the big reasons I like Red Hat. You guys rock!  :-) On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 5:14:18 AM EST, Andrew Haley wrote: On 1/27/20 3:13 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: > N.B.: I'd like to thank the Red Hat JVM team for being solid in > their Fedora execution. But they maintain onl

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 01:09:04PM +0200, Damian Ivanov wrote: >Maybe now that RH is part of IBM they have changed their short sighted >view of not collaborating on a better build system like OBS. As I recall And ... you lost me right there... Pierre _

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 11:36, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 00:08, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 22:06 Iñaki Ucar wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 20:58, Leigh Griffin > wrote: > >> > > >> > This thread is serving as a source of requirements (although i

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Damian Ivanov
Maybe now that RH is part of IBM they have changed their short sighted view of not collaborating on a better build system like OBS. As I recall back than it was already able to bootstrap on centos and fedora and build packages and the only argument against it was legacy support with mock / koji whi

Re: [security] only latest Qt 5.14.1 has all fixes

2020-01-29 Thread Damian Ivanov
But it's not the only CVE fixed with Qt 5.14.1 The point is that there is other software using Qt which doesn't start with K even though K works just fine with 5.14 by the experience of other distributions. Though all software is affected by security issues by using unpatched Qt. Affected by thes

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 00:08, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 22:06 Iñaki Ucar wrote: >> >> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 20:58, Leigh Griffin wrote: >> > >> > This thread is serving as a source of requirements (although it has >> > meandered dramatically away from that) >> >> When I fi

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Christophe de Dinechin
> On 29 Jan 2020, at 00:26, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > > On Tuesday, 28 January 2020 10:03:09 CET Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> * committing to git should build the package >> >> Is there a reason why this wouldn't be the case? > > Please no. Sometimes you just fix a typo or add a comment a

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Christophe de Dinechin
> On 28 Jan 2020, at 10:03, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. > It's possible to maintain 20 with a lot of work. And if you want to > maintain 100+ (things like the ocaml-* set that I help to maintain) > then you have to write you

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Christophe de Dinechin
> On 28 Jan 2020, at 11:32, Guido Aulisi wrote: > > Il giorno mar 28 gen 2020 alle ore 10:04 Richard W.M. Jones > ha scritto: >> >> I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. >> It's possible to maintain 20 with a lot of work. And if you want to >> maintain 100+ (thi

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 1/27/20 3:13 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: > N.B.: I'd like to thank the Red Hat JVM team for being solid in > their Fedora execution. But they maintain only the JVM, and not > the rest of the Java ecosystem. :-) Thank you. One (perhaps) rather minor point in the middle of this important discussion:

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:04:32AM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:51:29PM +0100, Dan Čermák wrote: > > "Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > > > > > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. > > > It's possible to maintain 20 with a lot of work.

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 09:26:43AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 02:06:40PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > My main concern is that we have been coming up with 'standard' > > proposals for 20 years and we can't seem to get more than any 4 > > maintainers to agree

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:51:29PM +0100, Dan Čermák wrote: > "Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > > * CVE bugs should autoclose when a package is rebased > > I don't think this is a good idea as you should actually check that this > update fixes the CVE. If we collect the data that version X fixes CV

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 02:06:40PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > My main concern is that we have been coming up with 'standard' > proposals for 20 years and we can't seem to get more than any 4 > maintainers to agree to what that means... even if they do the same > work in Debian/SuSE/Arch e

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 04:10:17PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > > On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 13:01, Robbie Harwood wrote: > >> > >> "Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > >> > >> > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. > >> > It's possible to

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:51:29PM +0100, Dan Čermák wrote: > "Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > > > I always think that Fedora works fine if you maintain 1-5 packages. > > It's possible to maintain 20 with a lot of work. And if you want to > > maintain 100+ (things like the ocaml-* set that I help

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le mardi 21 janvier 2020 à 16:34 +, Leigh Griffin a écrit : Hi, > On behalf of the CPE team I want to draw the communities attention to > a recent blog post which you may be impacted by: > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/git-forge-requirements/ Requirements: 1. the url to the archi