Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Demi Marie Obenour: > >> From this thread, it appears that non-LFS 32-bit software is fundamentally >> unsupportable in the long run, just like software with 32-bit time_t is >> unsupportable. That leaves two options: >> >> 1. Break

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Orphaned libdmapsharing

2023-07-20 Thread W. Michael Petullo
I orphaned the libdmapsharing package. All of the F38 and Rawhide packages that depended on libdmapsharing have moved on to libdmapsharing4. I recommend allowing libdmapsharing to retire in favor of libdmapsharing4. -- Mike :wq ___ devel mailing list

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[Bug 2224456] New: perl-Catalyst-Runtime-5.90131 is available

2023-07-20 Thread bugzilla
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Java-devel list?

2023-07-20 Thread Peter Boy
Is there something wrong with the Java-Devel list? I can send a message to the list and get no reject or error, but is never shows up, at least it looks like that. Or did I miss something? -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy p...@fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1)

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[Bug 2224451] New: perl-Module-CoreList-5.20230720 is available

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Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-07-20 Thread stan via devel
On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 09:17:51 -0500 Justin Forbes wrote: > for them. I have been running preempt=full for quite some time on my > desktops systems here. I've been running custom compiled kernels with preempt_full=Y on my desktop for several years (since at least kernel 5.1). Currently running

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Re: python3 build failure

2023-07-20 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 15:38 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: > On 7/20/23 2:09 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > > On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 13:59 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: > > > This bz[1] was opened on one of my packages not building on f39. > > > I did a quick rawhide scratch build and sure enough > > >

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[Bug 2224450] New: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20230720 is available

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Re: Potential changes to systemd RPM macros

2023-07-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 07:40:08AM -0700, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > Hi, > > this requires a bit of background, so please bear with me :) Thanks for all the background... :) ...snip reasonable stuff... I agree that an upstream systemd solution is what we should strive for. > The problem is

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Re: Making sense of golang packaging guidelines

2023-07-20 Thread Carlos Rodriguez Fernandez
Hi Fabio, Robert-André, Thank you for the explanation. It makes sense. Golang has this uniqueness about libs that removes some of the shared objects pros but I see there are other things at play. Thank you, Carlos. On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:44 PM wrote: > On 7/20/23 8:20 PM, Carlos Rodriguez

Re: proposed change to FESCo voting rules

2023-07-20 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 3:46 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Stephen Gallagher proposed a change to FESCo voting rules [1]. This will be helpful to people who aren't regularly involved in FESCo votes. If that's you: the proposal presented here is largely clarification. There's not much

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Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230720.n.1 changes

2023-07-20 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230719.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230720.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:4 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 4 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 128 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 15.69 MiB Size of dropped packages:0

proposed change to FESCo voting rules

2023-07-20 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi, Stephen Gallagher proposed a change to FESCo voting rules [1]. The latest draft: --&<- Ticket Votes (Preferred) Once a formal proposal is made in a ticket, voting will proceed. A Change ticket is assumed to be a a formal

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-07-20)

2023-07-20 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-20/fesco.2023-07-20-17.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-20/fesco.2023-07-20-17.00.txt Log:

Re: python3 build failure

2023-07-20 Thread Steve Dickson
On 7/20/23 2:09 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 13:59 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: This bz[1] was opened on one of my packages not building on f39. I did a quick rawhide scratch build and sure enough the build fails with [2] The important part is earlier in the log:

Re: Making sense of golang packaging guidelines

2023-07-20 Thread zebob . m
On 7/20/23 8:20 PM, Carlos Rodriguez Fernandez wrote: Hi all, I am interested in packaging some golang programs for Fedora (and EPEL), and I read through the guidelines: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Golang/

Re: Making sense of golang packaging guidelines

2023-07-20 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:22 PM Carlos Rodriguez Fernandez wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am interested in packaging some golang programs for Fedora (and EPEL), and > I read through the guidelines: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Golang/ > > My question is more about the

Making sense of golang packaging guidelines

2023-07-20 Thread Carlos Rodriguez Fernandez
Hi all, I am interested in packaging some golang programs for Fedora (and EPEL), and I read through the guidelines: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Golang/ My question is more about the reasoning for the recommended handling of dependencies. Other language platforms

Re: python3 build failure

2023-07-20 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 13:59 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: > This bz[1] was opened on one of my packages not building on f39. > I did a quick rawhide scratch build and sure enough > the build fails with [2] The important part is earlier in the log: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'distutils'

python3 build failure

2023-07-20 Thread Steve Dickson
Hello, This bz[1] was opened on one of my packages not building on f39. I did a quick rawhide scratch build and sure enough the build fails with [2] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mockbuild/trace_decorator.py", line 93, in trace result =

Re: Several questionable packages installed on fresh system

2023-07-20 Thread Paul Howarth
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:10:37 +0200 Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 10. 07. 23 v 10:38 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): > > Hi, > > > > > > libtomcrypt > > > > So this is the dependency chain: > > libtomcrypt <= python3-crypto <= python3-beaker <= python3-mako I raised

[Bug 2224383] New: perl-PAR-Packer-1.059 is available

2023-07-20 Thread bugzilla
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Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-20 Thread Florian Weimer
* Demi Marie Obenour: > From this thread, it appears that non-LFS 32-bit software is fundamentally > unsupportable in the long run, just like software with 32-bit time_t is > unsupportable. That leaves two options: > > 1. Break the ABI, preferably in such a way that causes non-LFS >code to

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-20 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/20/23 11:06, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Demi Marie Obenour: > >> On 7/17/23 09:51, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> * Daniel P. Berrangé: >>> > But that still raises the question - why does it look like this > started to happen pretty suddenly around June 30? > The list of updates that

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-20 Thread Fabio Valentini
Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 5:07 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Demi Marie Obenour: > > > On 7/17/23 09:51, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> * Daniel P. Berrangé: > >> > But that still raises the question - why does it look like this > started to happen pretty suddenly around June 30? > The

Re: Cython 3 plans

2023-07-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 20. 07. 23 12:16, Miro Hrončok wrote: python-rapidfuzz thrnciar troycurtisjr See https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rapidfuzz/pull-request/2 -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ python-devel mailing list --

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-20 Thread Florian Weimer
* Demi Marie Obenour: > On 7/17/23 09:51, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Daniel P. Berrangé: >> But that still raises the question - why does it look like this started to happen pretty suddenly around June 30? The list of updates that were applied to builders in that timeframe

[Bug 2218167] Please consider removing/porting aspell dependency. Aspell has been deprecated

2023-07-20 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2218167 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version||perl-Code-TidyAll-0.83-3.fc

[Bug 2218167] Please consider removing/porting aspell dependency. Aspell has been deprecated

2023-07-20 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2218167 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |MODIFIED --- Comment #1 from

Potential changes to systemd RPM macros

2023-07-20 Thread Andrea Bolognani
Hi, this requires a bit of background, so please bear with me :) Earlier this year, the libvirt project changed its RPM package to be more granular[1] as a step towards a future where the legacy monolithic daemon (libvirtd) is completely gone. This change has happened upstream, but the Fedora

Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-07-20 Thread Justin Forbes
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:53 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 06:14:17PM -0500, Justin Forbes wrote: > > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 3:44 PM Demi Marie Obenour > > wrote: > > > > > > I noticed that by default, Qubes OS has voluntary kernel preemption > > > as opposed to full

Re: libarrow (Apache Arrow) soname bump in Rawhide

2023-07-20 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 4:07 PM Kaleb Keithley wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:01 AM Kaleb Keithley wrote: >> >> >> >> Now Apache Arrow 12.0.0 has been released. >> >> Rebase landing soon in Rawhide. > > > Apache Arrow (libarrow) 13.0.0 has been released. > > At least within Fedora, only

Re: libarrow (Apache Arrow) soname bump in Rawhide

2023-07-20 Thread Kaleb Keithley
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:01 AM Kaleb Keithley wrote: > > > Now Apache Arrow 12.0.0 has been released. > > Rebase landing soon in Rawhide. > Apache Arrow (libarrow) 13.0.0 has been released. At least within Fedora, only Ceph (ceph-common, ceph-radosgw, ceph-test, librgw2) depends on libarrow.

Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-07-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > What's the downside from full pre-empt that makes it inappropriate > as the defualt for Fedora server spins too ? Is it that it is > trading off overall peak performance in favour of reduced latency, > and we think servers would

Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-07-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19 2023 at 06:50:24 PM -0400, Chris Murphy > wrote: >> If restricted to desktops, then we can only do it with kernel >> parameters. That probably means doing it in Anaconda kickstart, with >> a per edition/spin option

Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-07-20 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 06:14:17PM -0500, Justin Forbes wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 3:44 PM Demi Marie Obenour > wrote: > > > > I noticed that by default, Qubes OS has voluntary kernel preemption > > as opposed to full preemption. I found that enabling full preemption > > (preempt=full on

Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-07-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jul 19 2023 at 06:50:24 PM -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: If restricted to desktops, then we can only do it with kernel parameters. That probably means doing it in Anaconda kickstart, with a per edition/spin option for doing so. I'm not fond of this solution. In practice, this would

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-20 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/17/23 09:51, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Daniel P. Berrangé: > >>> But that still raises the question - why does it look like this >>> started to happen pretty suddenly around June 30? >>> The list of updates that were applied to builders in that timeframe >>> doesn't raise any alarm bells

Re: Orphaned Zim

2023-07-20 Thread Sandro
On 20-07-2023 14:38, Otto Liljalaakso wrote: I think I may have used Zim in the past and I may have some use for it again. I'd be happy to co-maintain. Great! I have added you with commit privileges. In case you (or anybody else) know Python buildsystems, you could check the upstream issue

Re: Say goodbye to polymake

2023-07-20 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 02:20:59AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > /home/rjones/d/fedora/polymake/rawhide/polymake-4.10/lib/core/src/perl/RefHash.xxs:737:11: > > error: ‘Perl_ck_fun’ was not declared in this scope; did you mean > > ‘Perl_cx_dup’? > > 737 |

Re: Orphaned Zim

2023-07-20 Thread Otto Liljalaakso
Sandro kirjoitti 20.7.2023 klo 12.42: On 19-07-2023 23:11, Otto Liljalaakso wrote: Robin Lee kirjoitti 14.7.2023 klo 17.53: I've orphaned the Zim package. It fails to build with Python 3.12 in Rawhide. Users can move to the flatpak on Flathub, which is also packaged by me. Thank you for

Re: F39 proposal: Perl 5.38 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-07-20 Thread Xiaojie Chen
Hi,I am interesting in the upgrading of perl. Where can I find the detailed process of upgrading and building Perl, including the entire build steps, the list of built RPM packages, and the building order of Perl module packages? ___ devel mailing list

Orphaned Onboard

2023-07-20 Thread Qiyu Yan
Hi all, I've orphaned the Onboard package. I stopped using it personally and don't have enough time to handle some bug report. If anyone want to take it please do so. - Qiyu ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-07-20)

2023-07-20 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-07-20 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Re: DNF5-5.0.1 has a stable API

2023-07-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Miroslav Suchý wrote: > "Only dead projects has stable API" Sorry, but this is just nonsense. APIs can be appended to, even rewrites can be made API-compatible if developers actually care about that. Even if the internal code is completely different, the public API can be retained, at least if

Re: Cython 3 plans

2023-07-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 17. 07. 23 21:09, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hello Pythonistas, apparently, Cython 3.0.0 final was released today. I plan to make it build somehow in https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/Cython/pull-request/41 and once it does, I'll update the package in Rawhide, introducing a python(3)-cython0.29

Re: DNF5-5.0.1 has a stable API

2023-07-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:46 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 20. 07. 23 v 10:08 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > > The dnf5 API has similar primitives (Base, Goal, Package, etc.), but it's > >> not at all compatible. > > It may be worth to add the link to the API: > >

Re: DNF5-5.0.1 has a stable API

2023-07-20 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 20. 07. 23 v 10:08 Peter Robinson napsal(a): The dnf5 API has similar primitives (Base, Goal, Package, etc.), but it's not at all compatible. It may be worth to add the link to the API: https://dnf5.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api/index.html So everything has to be rewritten across the

Re: Orphaned Zim

2023-07-20 Thread Sandro
On 19-07-2023 23:11, Otto Liljalaakso wrote: Robin Lee kirjoitti 14.7.2023 klo 17.53: I've orphaned the Zim package. It fails to build with Python 3.12 in Rawhide. Users can move to the flatpak on Flathub, which is also packaged by me. Thank you for maintaining the Zim package until now. I

[EPEL-devel] Retiring Zim from EPEL

2023-07-20 Thread Otto Liljalaakso
Recently, I adopted the orphaned Zim package for Fedora. The previous maintainer had added the package to EPEL, while I am not involved with EPEL at all. Consequently, I will not maintain the EPEL branches anymore. From going through the EPEC documentation, it looks like the Retirement

[Bug 2224116] perl-Business-ISBN-Data-20230719.001 is available

2023-07-20 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2224116 Paul Howarth changed: What|Removed |Added Doc Type|--- |If docs needed, set a value

[Bug 2224116] perl-Business-ISBN-Data-20230719.001 is available

2023-07-20 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2224116 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version||perl-Business-ISBN-Data-202

[Bug 2224116] perl-Business-ISBN-Data-20230719.001 is available

2023-07-20 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2224116 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED --- Comment #1 from

Re: DNF5-5.0.1 has a stable API

2023-07-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 11:35 PM Maxwell G wrote: > > > 2023-07-19T13:39:57Z Peter Robinson : > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 2:20 PM Nicola Sella wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> Yesterday, DNF5 5.1.0 was released upstream[1] and in rawhide[2]. This > >> update makes DNF5's API stable. This means