um remove $(rpm -q --qf '%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}\n' kernel | while
read k; do [ $k = $(uname -r) ] || echo "kernel-$k"; done)
Like I said, I never would have thought to just do "yum remove kernel"
and expect yum to have magic undocumented behavior to save me.
ot:~]$ rm -rf /
> rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on `/'
> rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe
I didn't know that was there (not in the habit of running "rm -rf /"
just to see what happens). I really can't think of a situation where
"rm
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systems, the "rescue" kernel/initramfs are never removed (not owned by
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another option, right there on the boot menu; if
you actually removed all running kernels, it would be the _only_ Fedora
option (and the only option at all on a system without multiple OSes
installed, so booted by default).
In any case, this is still a very minor side issue, and should not
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m with Github. It is SourceForge
2.0 as far as I can tell, and I'm sure something will come along
eventually and replace it as the "new hotness". I can see putting
projects that even might have some non-Fedora interest on
non-Fedora-hosted platforms, if only to try to attract other i
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es in the
distribution with the same soname but different functionality. Seems
like it would be much better to have a different soname, and have rpm
just use the minimalized version or change from linking against it to
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Once upon a time, Honza Silhan said:
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 3:54 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > I was trying to figure out why I had kernel-debug* packages installed,
> > and tracked it to xl2tpd wanting "kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko)". That is provided
> > by kernel-debug-m
other changes they'll probably be making, and they can set a non-default
hostname in that process.
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stname,
enabling an option to not send it, etc. is not a big deal (or could even
be part of a combined "anonymize me" checkbox).
This is about the default hostname; that configuration should be at the
same level as other default options.
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> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Adam Miller said:
> >> Meeting started by maxamillion at 16:00:37 UTC. The full logs are
> >> available at
> >> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/
.
However, if they are generated during build from some other source, that
won't be acceptable, as MP3 encoding is still not allowed in Fedora.
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s dependencies
> than libsolv does.
Is the current behavior documented? IIRC yum used the shortest package
name, and then an alphabetic sort. For the particular case of the
kernel vs. kernel-debug packages, shortest package name would solve the
#x27;d love
to be running a pure open source system, but in the real world, I can't.
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s, but I'm not aware of something like that for
LVM RAID.
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with LVM RAID at one time.
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LVM passes discards through automatically, assuming the block device
under the PV supports them. The issue_discards option tells LVM to
issue discards itself when PV space is released (e.g. an LV is
removed/reduced).
I'm not sure why issue_discards=1 is not the default, but that's a
separate i
that
has to look up how to update my stuff every single time, I don't know
many of the pieces or how they fit together. So the "self starter"
aspect is difficult because I don't think I'd know where to start.
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ork.
Talking to servers the admin didn't configure could be an information
leak and IMHO should not be on by default. You have no idea why there
are no servers, so trying to second-guess it is a bad idea.
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lment gethostbyname/getaddrinfo/etc., is fine, but don't pretend to
be an actual DNS server and go in /etc/resolv.conf.
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don't know how much impact the "discard=pages" option might have (the
man page says it is asynchronous, but it might make low-memory
situations worse).
- logical volumes: Set "issue_discards = 1" in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf so that
rem
Once upon a time, James Cassell said:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Now that Fedora 32 has fstrim.timer enabled by default... how about
> > discards for the things that fstrim doesn't get? Two main things I know
> > of:
> >
> >
conf,
then there needs to be a well-defined way for applications to discover
the current DNS servers. resolv.conf has been the way to find DNS
servers for decades; dropping it (and with no clear replacement) is a
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and worth
considering).
Even better would be a standard location (and maybe even defaulting it
to be symlinked to /etc/resolv.conf if systemd-resolved is not in use),
plus trying to get upstreams for common utilities like "dig" to learn
about the alternate (at least with an easy-to-use op
Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said:
> I think rather than this, we should bite the bullet and remove changelogs
> entirely from spec files.
I find "rpm -q --changelog" useful (at least when maintainers put useful
info there, which isn't always), so please do
ries, which is useful
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ase 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 they tried a fix to a bug and reverted
it - who cares in terms of RPMs?).
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have it define the same common macros as gcc.
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-D__x86_64__ though, since
that would (obviously) only be correct on x86_64. Fedora supports other
architectures, so there should be a more generic way to get the correct
architecture macros defined.
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use for AD and just want a good IdM.
Never assume your use case is the only use case.
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hould it be switched to /usr/bin/perl linking the core static?
Alternately, is there some way to reduce the overhead of the dynamic
library (that could help multiple languages)?
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apparently absorbed or wraps that functionality with its own thing,
/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-sulogin-shell, that doesn't appear to be
documented (at least in the man pages).
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> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:03 am, Chris Adams wrote:
> >How does that work with single-user mode, rescue mode, etc.?
>
> I assume single-user mode does not work. Rescue mode certainly does
> not work. It asks for a root password, b
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:36 AM Chris Adams wrote:
> >
> > Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said:
> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:03 am, Chris Adams wrote:
> > > >How does that work with single-user mode, rescue mod
Once upon a time, Matej Grabovsky said:
> Can you please explain what you mean? What are the alternatives if
> there really are over 5000 packages in CTAN?
Why does all of CTAN need to go into one source RPM?
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4).
I also installed the Fedora 31 GeoIP packages and ran the geoipupdate,
and that DB has the correct info.
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Once upon a time, Kevin Fenzi said:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 04:49:15PM +, Tom Hughes wrote:
> > On 06/12/2019 16:41, Martin Kolman wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 08:38 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> > >
> > > > I also installed the Fedora 31
it, which IIRC was maybe early this year). If I try to use the
drive and it doesn't work, I won't replace it. However, last time I
tried to burn something (a couple of years ago?), all the blank media on
my shelf was no longer any good, so I just gave som
al drive in the standard
configurations.
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oesn't support USB under UEFI, it is perfectly fine to install in BIOS
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old R610s (DRAC6) Friday by booting from a
virtual CD connected to an ISO image file, and they worked just fine.
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Once upon a time, John M. Harris Jr said:
> That would be affected by this change, as... that's a virtual CD. It'd have
> to
> be a valid, working CD image.
This change is about only physical optical media, not the ISO imag
multiple issues, so I stuck with
BIOS boot for a while longer. There's nothing in Fedora that requires
UEFI boot.
> Instead of trying to attack CD/DVD installs, why not keep what's working in
> the state it's already in?
Because i
I think it got thrown away
when we moved offices early this year, because nobody actually had a
drive to put it in.
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X2].
There are still new systems being sold that don't support AVX, much less
AVX2. I installed an Intel Atom C3758 system today, and it doesn't
support AVX. With the end of i686 (which I think is reasonable), this
would kill Fedora on a significant amount of h
ays of Linux where
everybody just uploaded their programs to a few big FTP sites); it's
supposed to be a system of things that are usable.
Even if someone does try to work with Fedora on a broken application,
who is going to get the bug reports? Who is going to respond? No
response still
know the California law),
so I guess that's that. IMHO if you want the right to be forgotten for
your IP address' geographic location, the answer should be you don't get
an Internet IP address anymore.
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y be other interesting things this expanded infrastucture could
be used for, but nobody is actually proposing that. What if doing it
for the shadow architecture prevents it being done for anything else
(because there aren't enough resources)?
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> experimental test environment linked to the Fedora Rawhide state.
The scope says there will be repositories generated.
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effort to prove it?
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osal as written,
which doesn't sound to me like what you are describing. What the
proposal says is all about rebuilding Fedora with the rejected baseline
change, and showing that it is better to get the community to accept the
original change. It also uses the term "older machin
kaged as part of the distribution.
BDB is kind of a part of the collective history of Unix systems and
assumed to always be available. Is there nobody interested in
maintaining the final license-compatible version in a pure bugfix mode?
Does it get that many bugs?
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pect they have any interest in changing their new license
(or they wouldn't have written it to begin with).
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Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said:
> Hmmm. We have fedora.pool.ntp.org, in fact. I'm not sure who actually runs
> that!
That's the public NTP pool, which is usually the best option if you
don't want to (or have the resources for) operate your own NTP
infrastruc
Once upon a time, Petr Viktorin said:
> Yes, automagic generators don't work in the long run. Requirements
> are always better listed explicitly.
Perl has been using automatic generators for ages. They're not perfect,
but they're really good and work fine in the most co
I don't
see a compelling reason to switch /bin/sh to something other than bash,
and it would just be confusing to run shell scriptlets with something
other than /bin/sh.
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Once upon a time, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski said:
> Chrome doesn't require atd explicitly (nor is it pulled in by any of its
> dependencies).
That's incorrect. The Google Chrome RPM requires /usr/bin/lsb_release,
which is from redhat-lsb-core, and that requir
ing directives:
--enablerootssh (for rootpw or maybe auth?)
--sshkey (for both rootpw and user directives)
No matter if this proposal is done, having an --sshkey option would be
nice, especially for Ansible use.
I think this OpenSSH change to foll
Guess I will soon, with the pending release of
CentOS 8.
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#x27;m in favor of this because I've been making this change in my
default install scripts since at least RHEL 3 and Fedora 1 (as far back
as I have at hand). Even when I make root-only servers or VMs, I always
drop an SSH key in during kickstart %post or
th x86_64 kernel... is there any regular way to
consume i686 applications? It seems like the only reason to continue
building i686 RPMs would be for multilib (and their build dependencies),
which is a small subset of the total RPMs.
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policy says to
reject the email, so that's what Google does (as well as many other
email hosters).
A number of mailing lists switched to a version of Mailman that supports
rewrting the sender when the original sending domain has a DMARC reject
policy - probably the Fedora Project Mailman need
Once upon a time, R P Herrold said:
> This seems very tone deaf and lacking in introspection, Matt
>
> perhaps by reading the subject line you chose to start this
> thread with
Matt didn't choose that - that subject was set by Gerald B. Cox
, I'd have a bunch of different interfaces to deal with, sites to
visit, functionality to learn, etc., instead of my single mail client
that I can tweak to my personal use patterns and can bring it all
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$ ls -l /usr/libexec/Xorg.wrap
-rwsr-xr-x. 1 root root 11376 Apr 12 2018 /usr/libexec/Xorg.wrap
which is where the problem lies. I think SELinux should help (because
it should stop writes to lots of things), but I haven't seen a bug or
statement from Fedora about vulnerability.
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> I wonder if Fedora has even been affected. I was not able to reproduce
> the exploit on Fedora 29 Workstation (with Xorg older than the one
> fixing the issue).
IIRC F29 Workstation uses Wayland, not X, right?
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ally paid attention to range requests in a long time; at one point
IIRC mirrors would often disable them because of "download accelerators"
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in parallel (hogging serve
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This list is for development of Fedora releases, not bug reporting. If
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Before going too deep into multi-level architectures, that should be
taken into account.
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, but I'm not aware of any push to
deprecate SHA-256. Even the alternative to RSA certs, ECDSA, is still
signed with SHA-256.
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Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said:
> On Tue, Apr 11 2023 at 12:18:58 PM -0500, Chris Adams
> wrote:
> >I wouldn't do that part; that's additional disk I/O for every prompt.
> >Especially when the system might be having issues, users (especially
> >root
Once upon a time, Sérgio Basto said:
> On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 12:18 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > This is already in the default /etc/bashrc, at least on Fedora 37 on
> > CentOS 7 (systems at hand I checked).
>
> yes and Centos 7 means all Fedora since a long time ...
Speci
rry Pi). It's not a matter
of "afford" so much as there are hobbyist hardware projects and such
that fit the SBC form rather than desktop/server form, and x86 has
proved too expensive for that market (and failed just about every time
it is tri
nd then even if I do come
back, now I'm pretty much too far behind to ever catch up.
I guess you're hoping for enough overlap between email and web forum
users to keep an active developer community... I wish you luck with
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copies and archive them. For example, I can in
seconds tell you when my first post here was (January 2010 in the
current incarnation, September 2003 on the @redhat.com version), or even
my first post to any @redhat.com list (wow, June 1996!).
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> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:24:48PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > I have seen this
> > done multiple times over the years, tried to follow a few times, and
> > always dropped off fairly rapidly. I'm solidly in the "email
held on a server, the server owner has
an editorial control that can be problematic.
Fixing typos sounds nice, but... just don't make typos, or proofread. :)
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> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:07:16AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said:
> > > * also, to fix typos :)
> >
> > So, I will say this is kind of a peeve of mine about server-based
> > discu
ly an embedded platform. If this is a good change with
no downsides, then how about going "upstream first" and getting the
change into the Linux kernel?
If this is just for Steam games, then how about seeing if the RPMFusion
Steam package can include this as a sysctl.d d
edora must migrate away, and to something where you'll be making more
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Fe
y with other things, move on, etc.); this is
more "is MATE a viable desktop to use with Fedora?" question.
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sonal blog or such, and probably could use
some review once I do write something... is there a good Fedora-provided
place to do something like that?
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ock is UTC but it accidentally is local time? That seems
rather unlikely, but wondered if somebody might could check.
For now, I just explicitly defined the date string to use, and that
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gets the date from the file... I'm wondering if something else is
actually setting the "date" macro first (the Lua support code only sets
it if is isn't already set), and using some different logic that may be
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> Chris Adams wrote:
> > I updated the source of a package of mine last night. The upstream is
> > on Github, and I use the %forgemeta macro for an easy spec file. When I
> > tried to run "fedpkg build" though, it failed - th
of all the GPU
firmware from the image?
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Once upon a time, Daniel P. Berrangé said:
> If the idea to allow a UKI to contain multiple alternate, signed,
> cmdline line profiles gets accepted
Are those of us who need boot-time kernel options (e.g. for hardware
workarounds or such) just screwed in the signed command-line cases?
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No more complex filesystems; keep /boot something simple like ext2 that
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mounted read-only during normal operation, mount with "sync", and with
all updates a
he default Red Hat or
Fedora prompt basically ever IIRC (and I started with Red Hat with RHL
3.0.3, long before RHEL or Fedora).
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ot;echo $?" (which succeeded). Just reading the variable does not reset it.
$ false
$ echo $? $?
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