Re: PSA: If you are C/C++ developer, use cppcheck

2013-12-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 09:12:06AM +0100, Ondrej Vasik wrote: Publishing them is a bit tricky - I can of course publish them (we scan with cppcheck, enhanced gcc warnings, clang and coverity) - but the reports may contain some attack vectors - and for inactive packages, it would only show

Re: Intent to retire: wimax, wimax-tools

2013-09-19 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 04:26:08PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Because it's pretty much dead upstream, getting towards dead in real-world deployments, and never really worked well anyway in Linux. Orphaned in F20, rawhide. If no one wants to grab it, will retire in a week or two.

Re: abrt server report: 20130917

2013-09-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 03:57:55PM +0200, Michal Toman wrote: In last two weeks these components were crashing the most: 1. kernel seen 85925 times (52% of all reports) https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/1174076/

Re: numatop: %{optflags} fail the 32bit build

2013-09-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:46:33AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: This is the offending function: void cpuid(unsigned int *eax, unsigned int *ebx, unsigned int *ecx, unsigned int *edx) { __asm volatile (cpuid\n\t : =a (*eax), =b (*ebx), =c

Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-05 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 02:14:55AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: going forward we need to work out how to do the perl builds quicker. there really is no reason why it needs to take as long as it does. Maybe only rebuild things that have a buildrequires on perl ? None of the rebuild

Re: Why does so much virt stuff depend on glusterfs?

2013-07-23 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 05:17:01PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: So this thread is complaining about.. Removing: glusterfs x86_64 3.4.0-2.fc19 @updates-testing 4.7 M Removing for dependencies: glusterfs-api x86_64 3.4.0-2.fc19

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 02:25:22PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: I Want To Believe in btrfs, but unfortunately it's still excessively buggy. It's actually got worse in Rawhide recently Well, it works fine for myself and for quite a few other folks I know. Cool story. I am

Re: Rawhide / F19 tester PSA: Don't install the F19 fedora-release yet. If you do, don't install a kernel. If you do THAT, don't reboot.

2013-03-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:12:58PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Jeu 14 mars 2013 20:57, Adam Williamson a écrit : So - don't get bitten by this :) If you really want to get on the F19 branch, then just make sure you hand-check your grub config file before rebooting. Thank

Re: f19 mass branching

2013-03-13 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:30:01AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, F19 has been branched, please be sure to do a git pull --rebase to pick up the new branch, additionally rawhide/f20 has had inheritance cut off from previous

Re: f19 mass branching

2013-03-13 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:51:01AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:35:00 -0500 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Once upon a time, Dave Jones da...@redhat.com said: Having my local mirror wiped when I rsynced todays rawhide tree was unexpected. Having to do

Re: RFC: Fedora revamp proposal

2013-03-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 08:35:08PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: 1: Long-term ABI for applications that we don't want to break without significant discussion. For now, this will include the stable kernel and libc

Re: Abrt (was Re: Most buggy packages)

2013-02-19 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 07:13:27AM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: I have a script that automates some of the workload of reassigning the component back to where the bug really is, but it currently requires some manual intervention: http://fedorapeople.org/cgit/dmalcolm/public_git/triage.git

Re: Abrt (was Re: Most buggy packages)

2013-02-19 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:10:38PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: So if you want to hack this into a tool for use on kernel bugs, go for it. ...and please integrate with abrt! Let's have it all working together :) - I am all for it, the abrt server is exactly the place where these kind

Re: Results of a test mass rebuild of rawhide/x86_64 with gcc-4.8.0-0.1.fc19

2013-01-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 09:40:27PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: Hi! As part of preparations for possible switch of system compiler in F19 to GCC 4.8.0, we (myself and Marek Polacek) have performed a test mass rebuild of rawhide (December 17th package list) using gcc-4.8.0-0.1.fc19 on

Re: modules, firmware, kernel size (was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes)

2012-10-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:59:55PM +0200, drago01 wrote: Given that the kernel is currently a full quarter of the current image, I think it has to be. No you could also use a different kernel image; build your own kernel; use a compressed filesystem, don't use a kernel at all and

Re: abrt server report: 20121004

2012-10-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 04:52:19PM +0200, Richard Marko wrote: kernel 220 ▁▂▄▅▇▇█ Nice graphs! What's this about? -- These are the statistics generated by ABRT Server deployed on [1]. We are going to send these reports

Re: abrt server report: 20121004

2012-10-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 11:02:43AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 04:52:19PM +0200, Richard Marko wrote: kernel 220 ▁▂▄▅▇▇█ Nice graphs! What's this about? -- These are the statistics

Re: abrt server report: 20121004

2012-10-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 11:10:47AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: Feature request: Can you do the same backtrace hashing abrt does, and provide a link to any bugs in bugzilla with the abrt_hash in the whiteboard ? Never mind. It seems you do that, and I was looking at reports where

Re: ABRT Server

2012-09-05 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 11:39:31AM +0200, Michal Toman wrote: We believe this will help developers to better prioritize their work and make debugging easier (crashes in common libraries are grouped into a single problem, for each crash versions of affected packages/architectures are

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-09 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:20:43AM -0700, John Reiser wrote: 1G fits on both the smallest MiniDVD format and most extant USB sticks. Let's do it already. If so, then please acknowledge explicitly that Fedora would be discarding some 4% of running, otherwise-capable machines

Re: kernel-modules-extra and GFS2

2012-04-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 07:19:32AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: I've had some reports recently that appeared to suggest that in F17, GFS2 was no longer being supported by the kernel. Having investigated this, it appears that the root cause is that the gfs2.ko module has been moved to

Re: kernel-modules-extra and GFS2

2012-04-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 04:48:38PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: [*] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel Related question: Should http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2012-March/003711.html ([PATCH] rawhide: enable HYPERV drivers) also be on the agenda? It

Re: /tmp on tmpfs

2012-04-02 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 06:34:59PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:32:56PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: * #834 F18 Feature: /tmp on tmpfs - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs (mitr, 17:40:06) * AGREED: tmp-on-tmpfs is accepted (+5 -3)

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:27:04PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: All sorts of things can speed it up, most of the Fedora builders are currently loopback ext4 over NFS over 100Mb ethernet over USB. Not optimal. Just switching them to ext2 would save a ton of IO. The buildroots get regenerated

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:32:04AM -0400, Zach Brown wrote: On 03/21/2012 10:58 AM, Dave Jones wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:27:04PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: All sorts of things can speed it up, most of the Fedora builders are currently loopback ext4 over NFS over 100Mb

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-20 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:54:36PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: The hardware is way slower ... so we can just build on faster hardware (x86_64). Which is the only sane way to do it. Trying to build on ARM directly is kind of a gimmick but nothing one can seriously use to build a whole

Re: does /etc/sysctl.d/ really obeyed and does really override /etc/sysctl.conf

2012-03-16 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:57:13AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org said: No package should be automatically changing the sysrq policy. Why not? For example, I use a commercial backup program that makes extensive use of IPC and needs

Re: does /etc/sysctl.d/ really obeyed and does really override /etc/sysctl.conf

2012-03-16 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 09:42:50PM +0200, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: What happens if two packages want to set a sysctl to different values ? that's why they are prefixed with numbers, the higher number will take effect eg. 99-foobar.conf sometimes we have conventions for number ranges

Fedora Kernel Team Meeting agenda Mar 2 2012

2012-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
The kernel has several widespread bugs that are affecting all releases, that are impacting a lot of users. * Hibernation There are so many bugs here it's hard to know where to begin. - We have cases where it fails to sleep, or resumes instantly. - There are cases where it looks to be

Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups

2012-02-20 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:39:54PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: Hi, I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be

Re: Apple will use LLVM

2012-02-16 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:22:03AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 02/16/2012 10:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: Not to mention that the kernel devs use gcc to compile the kernel - and it most certainly puts a lot of pressure on the compiler. I suspect unless linus drops gcc as well,

Re: F17 Slowness

2012-02-16 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during testing with the debug options and the kernel? Am on a F16 kernel and is little better than F17 3.3 kernels. the first -rc build of each kernel release has

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:53:13AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: According to the updates policy the maintainer needs to consider that their change will cause problems for third party kernel module packagers and end users that are compiling their own kernel modules. We *know* we're going

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 09:55:59AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: So, yes, it may be fully expected that issuing an update will break out of tree modules but that doesn't stop it from being one factor to *consider*. Consideration implies that the following thought process will occur This

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 07:24:20PM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: 2011/11/22 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 09:55:59AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Consideration implies that the following thought process will occur This update will break out of tree modules

no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Dave Jones
Looking at http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-2014/logs/mash.log (and previous logs), I don't see any obvious message for why the images/ directory isn't being created in the composes. anyone have info on what's broken ? Dave -- devel mailing list

Re: no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:29:10AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Dave Jones wrote: Looking at http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-2014/logs/mash.log (and previous logs), I don't see any obvious message for why the images/ directory isn't

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-10-05 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 07:33:22AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 15:36:27 -0400, Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: So we're thinking of trying this again this thursday with a focus on 16, (but triage work on older releases is welcomed too). I have

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-10-05 Thread Dave Jones
Some details about the triage day we are holding tomorrow. Where: #fedora-kernel on irc.freenode.net When: October 6th 2011 What: The primary focus is going to be on getting things in the best shape possible for Fedora 16's release. However there are some useful things that can be done for all

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-10-03 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:24:45PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 03:33:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: We'll be doing this in #fedora-kernel next Monday (22nd) I expect that the wiki page will continue to evolve as we start working on this, and perhaps

Re: Fedora 16 feels slow

2011-09-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 03:59:02PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I think the degree of slow down now, compared with the past, makes this issue a bug. If things are like they are now, I won't be running debug kernels on my rawhide systems. It costs me too much time. It would be nice to

Re: floppy support

2011-08-29 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:31:09AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: P.S. Your argument will be moot when the kernel drops the floppy module. Is there actually a plan for this to happen? Curious, not arguing here. Not any time soon. Dave -- devel mailing list

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-27 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 05:35:19PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Why does it need so much to start with? Because the installer initrd contains the kitchen sink. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 03:33:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: We'll be doing this in #fedora-kernel next Monday (22nd) I expect that the wiki page will continue to evolve as we start working on this, and perhaps this can even become a regular thing. apologies for not helping

Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-08-18 Thread Dave Jones
We've been planning on doing one of these forever, but never seeming to get around to it. The kernel gets a lot of bugs (possibly more than any other package), and as such, we've got nearly a thousand bugs open right now, and just three people working on it full-time. The problem we've faced

Re: koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-29 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 01:16:43AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: i have running 2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP in my testing-virtual-machine since some minutes, boot looked fine, after a minute a got a btrfs-stack-trace hope this helps (no i do not tend use btrfs in production *gg*) hmm,

Re: koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-29 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:29:58PM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: wasn't there some kind of issue in vm's ? Maybe I'm not remembering correctly. too vague to comment. there are always 'issues in vm's :) Dave - how is the 2.6.40 code different or not from 3.0.0-2 ? pretty much the same

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest (but not from the console) and was surprised to lose the connection while it was happening. Again. It happened to me last week, too. I got back in via the console and

Re: [ INFO: possible recursive locking detected ] systemd-logind/651 is trying to acquire lock:

2011-07-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:11:43PM +0400, Lucas wrote: Dear All. Just updated and got the following in dmesg: Thanks, I just reported this upstream. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (v3)

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:39:13PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Orphan isic seeing as I took ip6sic which is similar, I'll take this too. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 05:12:07PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Orphan minicom comaintained by: jcapik If something is orphaned, but has comaintainers, is that enough to keep it in the distro ? Not really - we'd like one of the comaintainers to pick it up as

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 05:04:51PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 03:28:59PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Orphan ip6sic I've used this from time to time. I'll pick it up. So I took maintainership in pkgdb. Now every time I commit, I get a bounce email from ip6sic

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 06:47:12PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: Orphan midisport-firmware I own hardware that uses this. Taken. you'll want to take its dependancy too 'fxload' Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: i915 errors from 3.0 kernel

2011-06-29 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 01:40:06PM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: I thought so - glad its benign ... I assume the messages will sometimes be useful to the kernel team ... so should I keep mentioning new ones or only if its an actual OOPS? If you have abrt installed it will file bugs

Re: appletalk+psnap+ipx modules in the kernel-3.0-0.rc3.git5.1.fc16

2011-06-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:54:14PM +0400, Lucas wrote: Dear All I have installed the latest kernel from koji and found out that now I have 3 new modules: appletalk psnap ipx I know what is IPX. But do we really need to have AppleTalk always loaded in the kernel?

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 01:27:44PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: On 2011-06-11 12:11, Lucas wrote: Actually it does relabel by it self after boot with option selinux=0 That sounds rather useful. How does it know whether or not it was previously booted with selinux=0? booting with

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-09 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:01:06PM +1000, Chris Jones wrote: I agree. As virtualization technology becomes more and more involved and frequent on users systems, particularly with advanced Linux users, I think there

Orphaning packages: fxload midisport-firmware

2011-05-28 Thread Dave Jones
I don't own a device to test this any more, so I'm going to orphan these two. If anyone wants them, they're very low maintainence. (mostly just keeping up with package guideline changes, though there's a newer version of fxload available, but the absense of hardware made me nervous to blindly

Re: 9base in Fedora?

2011-05-25 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:56:25PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: What would cause someone to choose to use these tools rather than the ones that exist in Fedora already? They come from an environment where plan9 is more commonly used Rob Pike's house ? Dave -- devel mailing

Re: kernel: CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK=y

2011-05-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 07:02:04PM +0200, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: On 05/14/2011 06:10 PM, Dave Jones wrote: It used to be a module, but was converted to built-in as we were always loading it in the network scripts. A lot of the decisions made in those '5 second boot' days seem

Re: kernel: CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK=y

2011-05-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:22:35PM +0200, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: hi, why is it 'yes' instead of 'm'(module)? bug/feature?? performance troubles: http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdevm=130212178423334w=2 It used to be a module, but was converted to built-in as we were always loading it

Re: powertop2 vs powertop

2011-03-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 06:53:31PM +0100, jan.klepek wrote: In not so recent past, powertop2 alpha has been released [1] and it is currently in version 1.97. It is usuable and I was thinking about packaging it for Fedora. However, there is already old powertop. So I will have to package

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:46:04AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Apropos of nothing: kerneloops reporting seems to have been broken ever since we switched from using the kerneloops client to abrt, but that's another story.. - I reported quite a few oops using abrt (even found

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: The problem here is that some maintainers doesn't want ABRT reports at all even those not yet reported... It's arguable that such people are 'maintainers' at all if this is the case. I find it quite sad that we have packagers

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 02:11:27AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dave Jones wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: The problem here is that some maintainers doesn't want ABRT reports at all even those not yet reported... It's arguable

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-10 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:51:39AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: The problem is entirely cosmetic. No data is harmed, the program exits after that, it's just a child thread and the main process don't communicate the exit quite right. So, pretty much everyone who uses calibre sees

updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Dave Jones
Wtf happened in updates-testing ? gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. NetworkManager[1059]: error [1290185488.399900] [nm-manager.c:1332] user_proxy_init(): could not init user settings proxy: (3) Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings': no

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 01:23:26PM -0500, Ray Strode wrote: Hi, On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: Wtf happened in updates-testing ? gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup..  gdm[1622]: #9  0x0032031195aa

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:23:56PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: It is very sad that Intel/AMD just didn't make sure rep movsb isn't the fastest copying sequence on all of their CPUs, which underneath could do whatever magic based on size and src/dst alignment (e.g. for small length handle

Re: disable drm_kms_helper polling in kernel 2.6.35

2010-11-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 05:23:09PM +0300, macachuto wrote: Dear All. I would like to ask, when it will be possible to have kernel 2.6.35 with /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll to disable hotplug polling. I have laptop with i915GM video and experience mouse cursor freezes

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 04:51:01PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: [ But yes, 4% is a big hit. 1% I would accept without hesitation. 4% does make me hesitate a little bit. During devel cycles, we accept much more slowdown than that for the debug kernel, of course. If we can figure out

policycoreutils needs cairo.

2010-10-25 Thread Dave Jones
I did a minimal install yesterday, and was surprised to find that cairo, and a bunch of X libs were still installed. The dependancy chain that pulled them in looks like this.. policycoreutils - dbus-glib - gobject-introspection - fontconfig - cairo Could any part of that chain have its

Re: Fedora 14 Beta Declared GOLD

2010-09-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 03:31:39PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote: At the Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 14 Beta was declared GOLD and ready for release on September 28, 2010. is what's at rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/mirrors/fedora/development/14/ right now the beta tree, or is

Re: Fedora backports repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 02:45:03PM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: I can see a big increase in boot time with my desktop setup when using a debugging kernel among other slow-downs. From 8 seconds (non-debug) at least double that. I use modern CPUs (quad core a minimum) with SSDs and

Re: Problem with 2.6.35.4-12.fc14.x86_64

2010-09-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 08:11:47PM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: One problem fixed, introduced another === [ INFO: suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage. ] ---

Re: Problem with 2.6.35.4-12.fc14.x86_64

2010-09-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:11:52PM +0200, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote: -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:devel- boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Michal Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:03 PM To:

Re: article on security of various linux

2010-09-09 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 10:30:57AM -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: This article: http://labs.mwrinfosecurity.com/notices/security_mechanisms_in_linux_environment__part_1___userspace_memory_protection/ seems to

newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Dave Jones
I just hit this on an f13 box. Transaction Check Error: package libgcc-4.4.4-11.fc12.x86_64 (which is newer than libgcc-4.4.4-10.fc13.i686) is already installed Could the buildsystem be changed to prevent newer NVRs from being built if an older one exists in a newer buildroot ? Should it ?

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide upgrades

2010-08-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:32:01AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 18.08.10 18:15, Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) wrote: # systemctl enable ge...@.service prefdm.service getty.target rc-local.service remote-fs.target And that should make things work again

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide upgrades

2010-08-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:53:44AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: It tells me to see the logs for details, but there's not a single message from systemd in the logs. There should be an explanation in dmesg, that it cannot find default.target. at the stage

Re: Staying close to upstream

2010-08-13 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 05:47:37PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Good luck getting Mozilla to accept anything. Just like the kernel, they're a very hard to work with upstream. If you don't know the right people, your stuff just doesn't get in. :-( Which is odd, because the number of

Re: modification of sources file causes git corruption.

2010-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:58:26PM -0700, Matt McCutchen wrote: That's not corruption, that's just an unreferenced object, which does no harm except to waste space. git gc will delete such objects. (20:50:18:da...@gelk:kernel)$ git fsck --full dangling blob

modification of sources file causes git corruption.

2010-07-31 Thread Dave Jones
Check this out.. (00:13:25:da...@gelk:kernel)$ fedpkg -v upload patch-2.6.35-rc6-git6.bz2 Creating module object from /mnt/data/src/fedora/kernel Uploading: f73d01927a3150e729b44add5ea4923c patch-2.6.35-rc6-git6.bz2 Running curl -k --cert /home/davej/.fedora.cert --fail -o /dev/null

Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-27 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 02:39:55PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said: of those that it does open(),.. Is there seriously a use-case for someone wanting lvm partitioned /dev/ram disks ? or /dev/loop ? I would assume that's for testing. point being

Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 04:26:14PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 20.07.10 16:04, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: I am not entirely sure though why those processes actually access those dirs in this case. Maybe they are iterating through the files in /dev?

Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 02:30:03PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 04:26:14PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 20.07.10 16:04, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: I am not entirely sure though why those processes actually access those dirs

Re: Outage: Updates - 2010-07-21 16:00 UTC

2010-07-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 04:47:38PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: There will be an outage starting at 2010-07-21 16:00 UTC, which will last approximately 3 hours. Outages will be small but noticeable for small segments as systems are updated and rebooted. To convert UTC to your

Re: Proposed release criteria additions for F14+

2010-06-30 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:28:16AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: * The desktop default update manager must not periodically check for updates when the system is booted live, but must periodically check for updates when running on an installed system tangentally related: Do we ever

Re: NVR email I just sent

2010-05-27 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:28:08AM -0700, John Reiser wrote: greater for f12: x86info (davej ) f12 = 1:x86info-1.25-1.45.fc12.src f13 = 1:x86info-1.25-1.44.fc13.src These are actually the same, (I did two commits in f12, and combined both when I updated f13). is

tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
So after having heard the nth discussion about tor, I decided to check it out. I tried installing it on a stripped down f12 box that has no X, or other stuff unnecessary for routing network packets. What happened next has me lost for words. Our dependency chains suck. Dave

Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 09:51:17AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:37 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: -- Processing Dependency: tor-lsb = 0.2.1.23-1200.fc12 for package: tor-0.2.1.23-1200.fc12.i686 This is where things go to hell. Why in the hell is tor-lsb /required

intent to orphan: oprofileui

2010-02-17 Thread Dave Jones
I'm going to recommend dropping this package from Fedora entirely. - Upstream seems to have stopped development on it since intel acquired its developers (opened-hand) - The new profiling tools (perf) are in many cases easier to use than oprofile - oprofileui had a number of bugs that look