Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 branch today

2011-07-29 Thread John Reiser
On 07/26/2011 14:26 UTC, Adam Williamson wrote: Just a heads-up to let everyone know that Fedora 16 is now branched from Rawhide. [snip] Since then, I have seen no nightly rawhide report nor F-16 branched report, nor any relevant news. The last rawhide report was for that same day:

Rawhide should take turns with F-16 Branched

2011-07-31 Thread John Reiser
The nightly build mash for Fedora-16 Branched should go first, before Rawhide, on a few days per week: say, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. The typical three-hour difference in completion times can be put to good use by me and others who are trying to make and test the install DVDs. Too often

Re: Rawhide should take turns with F-16 Branched

2011-08-01 Thread John Reiser
On 07/31/2011 01:37 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:22 PM, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: The nightly build mash for Fedora-16 Branched should go first, before Rawhide, on a few days per week ... You should open a ticket with rel-eng to see if this could

Re: Rawhide should take turns with F-16 Branched

2011-08-01 Thread John Reiser
You should open a ticket with rel-eng to see if this could be implemented. https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/658 Oops, that probably needs to be on https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ to get the attention of the right people. https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4851 -- -- devel

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-08 Thread John Reiser
* 3: what does this mean for you? ... and your users, and your software maintenance budget: If you enable it, then the apps in your package: 1) Cannot be prelink-ed. This likely costs time and space (RAM, swap) at run time. The magnitude of the cost can vary from almost nothing to several

Re: Which db should I build this package against?

2011-08-10 Thread John Reiser
I'm working on packaging conquest[1] for fedora which can be built against dbase,mysql, postgresql *and* mysql. Which one should I build it against? Should I build it against all of them and make different subpackages?? Did you talk to upstream and figure out if all these options are equally

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread John Reiser
On 08/11/2011 05:26 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 18:26 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: Last time i tried an install via bfo it didnt really select mirrors close to me. (i think for the install it didnt use a mirrorlist but instead a hardcoded repo by default) Is this still

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread John Reiser
... I understand that some one is working on reducing the memory footprint of anaconda. Will it be ready for F16? The treebuilder branch of lorax, where such a project is being developed, is not complete today. How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16? Anaconda

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread John Reiser
It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels), but there are some other roadblocks that will block that change for the near future. Where is this issue being tracked? -- -- devel mailing

Re: RPM DB corruption with F-16 Beta

2011-10-12 Thread John Reiser
I resurrected an old notebook (HP Pavilion ZE4201) to test some stuff under relatively low memory conditions (768 MB on the box). This can be simulated on any larger machine by appending mem=768m (note all lower case) to the end of the kernel boot command line. -- -- devel mailing list

Re: How can we make F17 be able to boot on Macs (with or without reFit)

2011-12-02 Thread John Reiser
On 12/02/2011 10:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote: As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default install of F16 on Macs. I'm not entirely sure that's correct. We had several reports of successful EFI installs of F16

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha TC1 Is Available Now!

2010-08-01 Thread John Reiser
F-14 Alpha TC1 has been posted for testing: * http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/14.TC1/ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620274 pyconfig-32.h and [respectively] pyconfig-64.h are missing. The only thing that can run is Media Check (my CD1 passed) and shell on VT2.

Re: F14 TC2 x86_64b

2010-08-03 Thread John Reiser
Ok, so this compose seems to have anaconda-14.14. When trying to do an nfs install, once I put in the server/directory information, it shows it connecting and trying to pull up the gui. But after that, my monitor just stays black and nothing ever happens, nor does it seem to react to

Re: What does the DVD media check if installing a new Fedora version? / Proposal

2010-08-13 Thread John Reiser
having the following question: What does the DVD/CD media check exactly if booting a Fedora DVD/CD? Is it the sha256sum? If yes, why this media check, because it could be done after having burned the DVD? There are embedded MD5 checksums, sometimes 20 of them per .iso. See

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread John Reiser
On 09/20/2010 10:02 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote: I'm missing the original mail in this thread because I think it went to a different list. Can someone forward it to me, please. Thanks. Jon. -- devel mailing list

calculus of PT_NOTE for GNU/Linux 2.6.32

2010-09-20 Thread John Reiser
Executable program files built by gcc+glibc on Fedora 14 contain a PT_NOTE which says for GNU/Linux 2.6.32. (For example, see file /bin/date; the presence of a NOTE is indicated by readelf --segments /bin/date, but readelf does not display the contents.) What does the PT_NOTE mean; what program

Fedora 14 Beta corrupts user data

2010-09-26 Thread John Reiser
Compiled code for minimum(), maximum(), etc. suffers from a compiler bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757-O1 wrong-code by cmove Unfortunately this bug can corrupt user data silently. I have hit the bug three times myself (bz 635508, 637303, 637461) and consider myself

Re: x86_64 as Fedora's primary platform

2010-09-28 Thread John Reiser
On 09/28/2010 11:37 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: We run 32 bit vms in Fedora Infrastructure a lot for purposes of memory density, we do it based on what will be running on the host as it doesn't always make sense to do so. It's

Re: x86_64 as Fedora's primary platform

2010-09-28 Thread John Reiser
On 09/28/2010 11:57 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:49 PM, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: A x86_64 kernel with everything else i686 [no 64-bit apps] can be good non-virtually, too, particularly when it avoids 32-bit PAE for more than 3.3GB of RAM. No it is pointless

Re: Ubuntu 10.10's installer looks rather nice

2010-10-11 Thread John Reiser
On 10/11/2010 03:41 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Some of the things [Ubuntu 10.10 installer] does which are IMHO better: - starts disk formatting / copying / installing in parallel with asking user questions - downloads updates in parallel too What was the wall-clock duration from

Re: Bug in curl makes Fedora ftp:// URL installations fail with some mirrors

2010-10-18 Thread John Reiser
On 10/18/2010 07:44 AM, Chris Adams wrote: [good analysis snipped] It would be nicer for the server to handle this better as well, but I think the problem starts with curl. All _three_ parties have work to do: 1. curl has a bug when terminating a transfer before end-of-file: should send

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread John Reiser
On 11/03/2010 11:48 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: Lack of decent profiling is a major problem for making our operating system fast. By far the most effective of profiling is sampling profile with callgraph information. I am the author of tsprof, http://bitwagon.com/tsprof/tsprof.html . Eight years

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread John Reiser
On 11/03/2010 01:51 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: [ But yes, 4% is a big hit. 1% I would accept without hesitation. 4% does make me hesitate a little bit. During devel cycles, we accept much more slowdown than that for the debug kernel, of course. If we can figure out profiling without frame

Re: F18, efi-bootable live images

2012-09-30 Thread John Reiser
The latest couple of F18 live images I have tried have not been efi bootable. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855849 -- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

tools to catch AttributeError and TypeError in python code?

2012-10-22 Thread John Reiser
What is the state of software tools to help catch and prevent AttributeError and TypeError in python code? These two classes of errors occur often in the bugzilla reports for anaconda (recently: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868707 ). I'd like to see fewer AttributeError and

Re: Plans for anaconda LVM/RAID support

2012-10-25 Thread John Reiser
On 10/25/2012 09:55 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Matthew Miller [snip] It is often useful in enterprise settings to do non-kickstart installs while prototyping. *And*, people running Fedora in those settings probably *are* prototyping. So, this seems like an

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread John Reiser
bodhi -D FEDORA-2012-18258 will download all packages in that update for you. Usability is so poor that you might give up [all on up-to-date Fedora 18 Beta-TC8+]: # type bodhi bash: type: bodhi: not found No hints? # yum install bodhi Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit

Re: [Bug 872826] f18 anaconda - no option to install bootloader to a partition

2012-12-02 Thread John Reiser
I'm not seeing such an option in mke2fs. If it is possible to change the padding/offset, then it would be possible for a continuous installation of GRUB2's boot.img and core.img, without using block lists. I did get slightly incorrect, ext4 has two boot sectors, for a total of 1024 bytes

Re: [Bug 872826] f18 anaconda - no option to install bootloader to a partition

2012-12-03 Thread John Reiser
On 12/03/2012 05:44 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 04:12:09PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: This sounds like a different bug than the one thats in the report above. I'd advise the commenter to open a new one on mkfs or anaconda to change the boot sector padding. It's part

Re: F-18 Branched report: 20121204 changes

2012-12-04 Thread John Reiser
On 12/04/2012 07:07 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: On 12/04/2012 08:38 AM, Fedora Branched Report wrote: Compose started at Tue Dec 4 09:15:31 UTC 2012 VICTORY! NO BROKEN DEPS in Fedora 18! Now, I ask you all, please, please. Help me keep it that way! Congratulations! Thank you, Tom! This

Re: grub (v1) in f18?

2012-12-07 Thread John Reiser
On 12/07/2012 08:49 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: Yes, I think we're both trying to say the same thing: there's no point having 'grub' in the repositories as its not installable or usable in practise. The same goes for bunch of other obsoleted packages as well. yum is not the only tool

Re: grub (v1) in f18?

2012-12-07 Thread John Reiser
On 12/07/2012 11:42 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: ext[234] has two boot sectors for a total of 1024 bytes. XFS has none. Btrfs has 64KB. It just seems like GRUB is a really familiar 4000 meter cargo train, compared to an unfamiliar hand truck, for the task of moving half-dozen boxes. Maybe

Re: Grub2

2012-12-09 Thread John Reiser
On 12/09/2012 10:06 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote: Actually, grubby in Fedora is still perfectly capable of updating the old grub.conf. To set this up, create a symlink: # ln -s /boot/grub/grub.conf /etc And create /etc/sysconfig/kernel: # UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg should

Re: prefered way of configuring X11 keyboard layouts in F18

2012-12-31 Thread John Reiser
Cool, then write a sane tool that converts them online that doesn't pull in Perl and whatnot, Is 'awk' available? 'sed'? 'bash'? (I'm not kidding. Some systems prefer 'dash', which lacks arrays and other hard-to-substitute features.) How much of 'python' is allowed? 'lua'? In other

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: DualstackNetworking - proper dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 networking

2013-01-02 Thread John Reiser
= Features/DualstackNetworking = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DualstackNetworking I'd like to use ipv6 for my computers, but my ipv4-only consumer devices (TV, Roku, HVAC, etc.) and ipv4-because-ipv6-is-buggy devices (mythtv) must continue to inter-operate to/from/with Fedora. --

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: DualstackNetworking - proper dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 networking

2013-01-02 Thread John Reiser
On 01/02/2013 05:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 03.01.2013 02:08, schrieb John Reiser: I'd like to use ipv6 for my computers, but my ipv4-only consumer devices (TV, Roku, HVAC, etc.) and ipv4-because-ipv6-is-buggy devices (mythtv) must continue to inter-operate to/from/with Fedora

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread John Reiser
On 01/03/2013 09:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: if there's /etc/keyboard.conf specifying 'KEYBOARD=foo', [then] I should never have to pass 'KEYBOARD=foo' as a cmdline to make foo my keyboard layout in some case. As things stand I believe I do, for passphrase entry during dracut. The dracut

Re: installer final touches matters

2013-01-21 Thread John Reiser
On 01/21/2013 04:37 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: In addition, Anaconda's memory use has been skyrocketing for several releases, and the design changes in F18 have done nothing to address that issue. (In fact, they likely made it worse.) That claim is dead wrong, at least for graphical install of

Re: installer final touches matters

2013-01-21 Thread John Reiser
I believe that fedora-18 can be installed using less [than 511MB] RAM, ... Yes. I just successfully completed a default install of Gnome3 desktop from Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD,iso (converted to USB2.0 using livecd-iso-to-disk) using only the additional kernel boot parameters mem=383m nomemcheck.

Re: installer final touches matters

2013-01-21 Thread John Reiser
On 01/21/2013 06:30 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: For the last four hours I was trying to install Fedora 18-64 on the computer and for an hour and a half I've been trying to do an install that hasn't worked; if was like experiencing Microsoft's blue screen of death. Thankfully after pulling

Re: Reproposed F19 Feature: Fix Network Name Resolution [Was: DualstackNetworking]

2013-01-23 Thread John Reiser
On 01/23/2013 09:27 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:24:25AM -0600, Dan Williams wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 02:46 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 21.01.13 10:25, Daniel P. Berrange (berra...@redhat.com) wrote: The glibc maintainers don't seem to be against

Re: Reproposed F19 Feature: Fix Network Name Resolution [Was: DualstackNetworking]

2013-01-23 Thread John Reiser
On 01/23/2013 10:35 AM, Dan Williams wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 09:48 -0800, John Reiser wrote: The signal handler can write a packet into a pipe from the process to itself, and that can be hooked up to an event loop API. Clearly. But then you have to deal with signal handling and all

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-23 Thread John Reiser
On 01/23/2013 12:26 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Also, I strongly question this line in the Feature page: Users generally won't see this, as interface names are not exposed in high-level UIs. This is simply not true for many values of the word user I agree with Matthew that ordinary

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-23 Thread John Reiser
On 01/23/2013 02:49 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: Just looking at 'lspci' will in most cases tell you what the name of the network interface will be. This is not true for my machines, which I built using main boards from ASUS, MSI, etc. The port numbers listed by 'lspci'

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-24 Thread John Reiser
On 01/23/2013 01:54 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: This code has the benefit of: - covering more device types (not just BIOSes with type 9 type 41) - not attempting to do heuristics that name devices via enumeration However, it does have the large disadvantage of changing the namespace used.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-01-29 Thread John Reiser
A generic fallback image should be installed by anaconda on installation/update and never ever be removed. Also, fallback has interesting security properties… Rescue mode forces a SELinux relabel at the next boot, and relabel can take a very long time. How does fallback mode handle this,

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-01-30 Thread John Reiser
On 01/30/2013 02:07 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said: Teach grub to preload the kernel and initrd while waiting for the timeout. That gives us _even better_ speedup, and doesn't sacrifice the generic usability of the initrd. Well, if the plan is to not

Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-28 Thread John Reiser
How far away do we appear to be from having an installable rawhide? Any help needed there? I created install DVDs for myself last Saturday through Tuesday (Jan.23-26). Yesterday (Jan.27) the installed system broke because hald gets an immediate Trace/Breakpoint trap. -- -- devel mailing

Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-28 Thread John Reiser
I created install DVDs for myself last Saturday through Tuesday (Jan.23-26). Yesterday (Jan.27) the installed system broke because hald gets an immediate Trace/Breakpoint trap. Thats an selinux issue that is fixed in current koji builds. Fixed in what package? New selinux-policy? New hal?

Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-29 Thread John Reiser
On 01/29/2010 02:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 11:03 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: We have attempted to create test images at a few points before Alpha, when Anaconda team is ready for testing and leading up to the freeze so that we can identify blockers prior to the

Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-30 Thread John Reiser
How far away do we appear to be from having an installable rawhide? I have created a Fedora 13 x86_64 install DVD from today's rawhide (Sat.Jan.30), installed it onto a vanilla clone box, and it runs for me. The installation process clobbered the Master Boot Record even though I asked it not to.

Re: Fedora Release Engineering meeting summary for 2010-02-01

2010-02-02 Thread John Reiser
* Second releng compose system was setup for testing (Oxf13, 18:41:01) * ACTION: Oxf13 will test multiple concurrent composes to compare completion time (Oxf13, 18:41:32) Related to performance of composing install media using pungi:

Re: No lzma sdk in fedora?

2010-02-11 Thread John Reiser
I want to package a sofware using a bundled lzma sdk which fedora doesn't have(http://7-zip.org/sdk.html). Fedora 12 has package lzma-libs which is generated by lzma-4.32.7-3.fc12.src.rpm. Perhaps you should confer with the maintainer of the Fedora lzma package if you desire a later lzma

Re: No lzma sdk in fedora

2010-02-12 Thread John Reiser
Another related note is that someone wanted a src package for it because they had something that would only build with access to the source. I am not planning on providing that, but wanted people to be aware we had a request for it. The package that needs the src is the upx package. The

Re: No lzma sdk in fedora

2010-02-12 Thread John Reiser
On 02/12/2010 04:08 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 03:04:06PM -0800, John Reiser wrote: The Fedora upx package put its copy of lzma465.tar.bz2 as another file in the SOURCES for Fedora upx, in same directory as upx-3.04.tar.bz2. This is a bundled library and needs to stop

Re: gconf settings for gdm login

2010-02-22 Thread John Reiser
On 02/22/2010 03:07 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: There is much worse - it does not let you set the keyboard layour anymore, so anyone in a non-qwerty locale will have a lot of problem inputting his login (sometimes it won't be possible at all, since qwerty does not give access to a lot of

Re: Hard drive spec change

2010-03-10 Thread John Reiser
MultiGHz, Multicore CPUs consume magnitudes more power than HDs. Not always. A typical 3.5 harddrive consumes about (max): 0.65A * 5V = 3.25W 0.50A * 12V = 6.00W which totals 9.25 Watts, and less when not transferring data. I am composing this message on a system with a 2.5GHz,

Re: Linker weirdness: could not read symbols: Invalid operation

2010-03-15 Thread John Reiser
could not read symbols: Invalid operation Could Invalid operation be an error message that corresponds to an error from a system call? Apply 'strace' to the link step to see what happens shortly before the write() to stderr. -- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Linker weirdness: could not read symbols: Invalid operation

2010-03-15 Thread John Reiser
/usr/lib64/libva-0.31.0.5.so.1: could not read symbols: Invalid operation It's a different command failing, that one has -lva-x11 and -lva-glx but not -lva . With all three, the command succeeds. D'oh! Please remember to file a bug report against binutils. You've identified a reproducible

Re: Potential F14 feature: Use GPT partition table by default for wipe complete HD installations

2010-03-18 Thread John Reiser
On 03/18/2010 09:25 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: Very few BIOSes can boot from a GPT disk. EFI/UEFI can, as can legacy BIOS if you do something ugly like gptsync so the MBR partition table and the GPT partition table at least somewhat agree. Does this mean that the presence of a GPT partition table

Re: F13 install timings

2010-03-19 Thread John Reiser
... stripped down kickstart server install of about 389 packages: enablefilesystems 3:10s postselection24:27s installpackages 14:30s The install spends a long time displaying Checking dependencies in packages selected for installation with no movement of the progress bar.

Re: Packages requiring numpy may require a rebuild in f13 and rawhide

2010-04-01 Thread John Reiser
Here are the packages that might be affected according to repoquery run on my 32bit box with build timestamps prior to numpy 1.4.0. unsorted list of 35 packages snipped Please sort the list. Yes, many mail user agents do offer text Search, but mostly that works well only for known literal

Re: 2010-03-25 Printing test day recap

2010-04-02 Thread John Reiser
[1] http://cyberelk.net/tim/2010/04/01/printer-device-ids-wanted/ What a horrible user interface! The git clone step spewed more than 4500 lines of garbage. I wondered whether it was working. Please do a git gc to repack the git database before inflicting this on users. -- -- devel mailing

Re: Unsigned Packages - Yum/Pk

2010-04-05 Thread John Reiser
Yum can only tell if something is signed (and by what key it is signed) after it has downloaded the package. Currently we have no easy way to exclude packages after the download phase (the basic problem being we'd need to go back and redo the transaction, which was a couple of steps

Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-06 Thread John Reiser
kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13 Works for me on x86_64: cpu family : 15 model : 47 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE] (rev a1) 05:00.0 0300: 10de:01d3 (rev a1) -- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-06 Thread John Reiser
kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13 HANGS at boot: VGA console blank except for text cursor in upper left. cpu family : 6 model : 23 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4550] 01:00.0 0300: 1002:9540 -- -- devel mailing list

Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-06 Thread John Reiser
On 04/06/2010 03:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: That seems strange, it should use dracut, not mkinitrd at all? Is this an F13 system? /etc/fedora-release says Fedora release 13 (Goddard). /etc/yum.repos.d has enabled repos for fedora, fedora-updates, and fedora-updates-testing, using a baseurl=

Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-06 Thread John Reiser
On 04/06/2010 04:11 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: dracut package provides /sbin/mkinitrd and you'll see that new-kernel-pkg gets called with --mkinitrd as well as --dracut in the kernel scriptlet for both referenced kernel builds. I don't think anything has changed in the scriptlet logic there

Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread John Reiser
On 04/07/2010 12:21 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:45:39 -0700 John Reiser wrote: Then I did rpm --erase of -24 and rpm --install of -24, and the message was: - /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: line 289: 2334 Segmentation fault (core dumped) Is it reproducible if you run

Re: CD install delta from F-12 to F-13 current

2010-04-09 Thread John Reiser
A quick report on the current delta between F-12 and F-13's CD snip The full report is attached. Apparently the sections were sorted numerically by change in byte size. It would have been helpful to say so explicitly, and to emphasize that fact by aligning the numerical change in a tabulated

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread John Reiser
On 10/24/2013 01:33 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: So that's why I ask if it makes sense to have an fsck for GPT disks. Sounds sensible. The fsck would just check the checksums of primary secondary tables, and if an error in

Re: RPATH in various binaries

2013-11-29 Thread John Reiser
/usr/bin/unpack200: RPATH=$ORIGIN (a) Are these bugs? They seem to be. RPATH=$ORIGIN is not a bug. It is a correct and thoughtful usage, one that even allows for moving the whole package after install. -- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-10 Thread John Reiser
1. There are legitimate use-cases where GCC's assumption does not hold, .e.g.: #include stdio.h void foo( int a ) { char hello0[] = hello0; foo.c line 5: warning: 'const' omitted char hello1[] = hello1; foo.c line 6: warning: 'const' omitted char *ptr; foo.c line 8: warning:

Re: RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread John Reiser
On 11/11/2010 07:17 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: in an alternate universe where RPM was originally designed to sign the uncompressed data, and the higher-level tools were subsequently designed to work with that, is there any fundamental reason why things would be worse (or better) than they are

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-11 Thread John Reiser
It would be usefull to overwrite some parts of memory (keys etc.), before the computer is switched off. So, my question is: Is there already implemented and used some kind of protection? Boot Memory test from install media (DVD, LiveCD, LiveUSB, etc.) and let it run for a minute. Or,

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans (biosdevname)

2010-11-13 Thread John Reiser
On 11/13/2010 06:34 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: biosdevname installed by default, used in the installer and at runtime to rename Dell and HP server onboard NICs from non-deterministic ethX to clearly labeled lomX matching the chassis silkscreen.

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-14 Thread John Reiser
On 11/13/2010 03:41 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Anyway, I think LVM is jolly useful: [stated advantages snipped] One design error is that you cannot carve out an ordinary partition from an LVM. Once a portion of the drive is LVM, then that portion of the drive is LVM forever until the LVM is

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-14 Thread John Reiser
On 11/14/2010 11:07 AM, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 10:38 -0800, John Reiser wrote: On 11/13/2010 03:41 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Anyway, I think LVM is jolly useful: [stated advantages snipped] One design error is that you cannot carve out an ordinary partition from

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans (LVM issues)

2010-11-14 Thread John Reiser
On 11/14/2010 01:13 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 13:07 -0800, John Reiser wrote: When I created 14 partitions using a DOS partition label (3 primaries, plus extended containing 10 logical partitions) and gave 6 of the partitions to an LVM setup, then I could not remove one

work-around: the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread John Reiser
For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include an optimized memcpy (which gets used on some processors) which breaks the 64 bit adobe flash plugin. For right now (the immediate present) a work-around is to use the 'memmove' subroutine as the resolution of any reference

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread John Reiser
On 11/17/2010 12:41 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: 2) Issues found in proprietary software cannot be fixed by anybody except the vendor False. In this particular case, it is possible to binary edit the plugin libflashplayer.so so that all its calls to memcpy become calls to memmove. The change

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread John Reiser
On 11/17/2010 03:13 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 01:16:42PM -0800, John Reiser wrote: On 11/17/2010 12:41 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: 2) Issues found in proprietary software cannot be fixed by anybody except the vendor False. In this particular case, it is possible

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-11-23 Thread John Reiser
On 11/23/2010 03:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: Here is a list of the current known potentially bad builds and what action could be or has been taken: Please alphabetize such a list, always! _PLEASE_? An alphabetized list is several times more effective at communication because advanced readers

Re: headsup: ghc 7 lands in rawhide

2010-11-28 Thread John Reiser
On 11/27/2010 12:04 AM, Jens Petersen wrote: I have just moved ghc-7.0.1 and a large set of Haskell ghc package rebuilds into dist-f15 (from dist-f15-ghc). Rebuilds still pending include xmobar, hlint, and various libraries (currently with one or less dependents). Testing and feedback of

memcpy overlap: quickly detect, diagnose, work around

2010-11-28 Thread John Reiser
This patch (with .rpms for x86_64 and i686) enables glibc optionally to detect, diagnose, and work around overlap in memcpy/mempcpy: http://bitwagon.com/glibc-memlap/glibc-memlap.html The option to check is controlled by an environment variable MEMCPY_CHECK_ which influences choices made by

Re: memcpy overlap: quickly detect, diagnose, work around

2010-11-29 Thread John Reiser
On 11/28/2010 03:36 PM, Nicholas Miell wrote: On 11/28/2010 03:13 PM, John Reiser wrote: The option to check is controlled by an environment variable MEMCPY_CHECK_ which influences choices made by __init_cpu_features and the STT_GNU_IFUNC mechanism for choosing alternate implementations

Re: memcpy overlap: quickly detect, diagnose, work around

2010-11-29 Thread John Reiser
On 11/29/2010 01:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: John Reiser wrote: This patch (with .rpms for x86_64 and i686) enables glibc optionally to detect, diagnose, and work around overlap in memcpy/mempcpy: http://bitwagon.com/glibc-memlap/glibc-memlap.html The option to check is controlled

Re: memcpy overlap: quickly detect, diagnose, work around

2010-11-29 Thread John Reiser
On 11/29/2010 03:44 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 15:13 -0800, John Reiser wrote: This patch (with .rpms for x86_64 and i686) enables glibc optionally to detect, diagnose, and work around overlap in memcpy/mempcpy: http://bitwagon.com/glibc-memlap/glibc-memlap.html

Re: memcpy overlap: quickly detect, diagnose, work around

2010-11-30 Thread John Reiser
On 11/29/2010 05:29 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote: Still, you could split the patch into one that just adds commented curly braces to existing code and a second with the substantive changes, which would be easier for anyone interested to review. Good idea. I revised the web page. Here is the

Re: biosdevname hitting rawhide

2010-11-30 Thread John Reiser
On 11/30/2010 01:12 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: I don't expect desktops to expose this information - they have only 1 NIC. There are 2 built-in NIC ports on at least a couple ASUS and Gigabyte motherboards that have been sold into the desktop market in the last couple years. My desktops also have

vfork() semantics changed: ERESTARTNOINTR

2010-12-02 Thread John Reiser
vfork() can fail with ERESTARTNOINTR which is 513 and somewhat young. 'make' did not know: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659382 If your package has any shell-like feature then it might be good to check for vfork(). -- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

noexec on /dev/shm

2010-12-12 Thread John Reiser
How did /dev/shm get noexec in Fedora 15 rawhide? $ grep /dev/shm /proc/mounts tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw,seclabel,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 $ grep -srl noexec /etc /etc/alternatives/ld /etc/fstab ## derived from /proc/mounts /etc/mtab## derived from /proc/mounts This

Re: noexec on /dev/shm

2010-12-14 Thread John Reiser
On 12/14/2010 07:28 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: In order to make things secure we minimize what is allowd on the various API file systems we mount. That includes that we set noexec and similar options for the file systems involved. The interface how to access /dev/shm is called shm_open(),

Re: noexec on /dev/shm

2010-12-14 Thread John Reiser
On 12/14/2010 09:37 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sun, 12.12.10 19:49, John Reiser (jrei...@bitwagon.com) wrote: The project is a database system that creates and dlopen()s plugins on-the-fly, for better performance on [long-running] queries. We like the speed of creat+write+close+open

Re: tmpfs != /dev/shm (was Re: noexec on /dev/shm)

2010-12-15 Thread John Reiser
On 12/15/2010 06:40 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:19:38PM -0800, John Reiser wrote: Also, the claim The API for /dev/shm is shm_open() is incorrect. See the other message for the history. When something is in the file system, then by default the file system APIs

Re: Your input requested at the Fedora Board IRC meeting this Friday

2011-01-06 Thread John Reiser
Over the past few months, the Fedora Board has focused on coming up with two or three overarching goals that can be accomplished over the next few release cycles. We've got a fairly healthy list of goals at this point, ... Please post a link to the current list of goals. Thank you. -- --

Re: Fedora distribution build times

2011-01-15 Thread John Reiser
Roberto Ragusa wrote: Matt Domsch wrote: It took my build system 96 hours to build all of rawhide (10k packages) for both x86_64 and i386. Builders are 10 Dell PowerEdge 1955 servers, each with 2 sockets 3GHz Xeon 5160 CPUs (4 cores each), 8GB RAM. Builders running Fedora 14. Perhaps it

Re: Fedora distribution build times

2011-01-15 Thread John Reiser
Genes MailLists wrote: Is it possible to break down how much time is in compiling versus packaging versus whatever else is involved ? What filesystem was used instead of tmpfs (which does not support the Capabilities that are required because of RemoveSUID in Fedora 15)? Perhaps ext2 (no

Re: noexec on /dev/shm

2011-01-22 Thread John Reiser
On 01/22/2011 06:22 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 05:54:22PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: The FHS is kinda old these days, and it has been a while since it was last updated. The LSB added some additional rules on top of it: As long as we keep in mind that we don't

Re: About mtune=atom

2011-01-24 Thread John Reiser
On 01/24/2011 07:43 AM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've read on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:RPMMacros#Build_flags_macros_and_variables that mtune=atom. Just because I'm curious, why? :) Why not? It is the only

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