> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>> On 31.7.2018 18:15, Jun Aruga wrote:
>>
>> 9.0.x -> 10.0.x then 18.0?
>>
>>> https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/master/NEWS.rst
>>> Switch to a Calendar based versioning scheme.
>>
>>
>> Oh they changed the versioning rule.
>
>
> See
Good numbers to provide, thanks. I've one thought for you.
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:24 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
> I did not try to structure and run a report to try to
> enumerate and count by dependencies. Looking at the
> problem with such a statistic, as to 'upstream' 'keystone'
> packages wi
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 17.7.2018 14:16, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Charalampos Stratakis
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>>
&
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Charalampos Stratakis
wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "R P Herrold"
>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>>
>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:57:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: Intent to orphan Python 2
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Miro Hronč
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
>> "KF" == Kevin Fenzi writes:
>
> KF> I agree. If this could be done before mass rebuild we can catch any
> KF> issues/typos/mistakes in this with the mass rebuild.
>
> I've been away from computers for a bit, but I could certainly
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 2:59 AM, Jonny Heggheim wrote:
> Hi Nico.
>
>
> On 07/04/2018 03:58 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> Yeah, but since it's many thousands of packages, I think maybe you
>> didn't have to send the whole list?
> I like that he sent the
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> In a %files section of a specfile, the %defattr directive is used to set
> the default file ownership and permissions. RPM has provided a sensible
> default since version 4.4 (which predates FC6 and RHEL5), but very many
> specfiles st
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
> Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Till Maas wrote:
>> > So the assumption is to have a super sophisticated browser exploit for
>> > which
>> > an attacker most likely spent
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Till Maas wrote:
> So the assumption is to have a super sophisticated browser exploit for which
> an attacker most likely spent several days to find it and then the PATH
> setting will make it so much harder that the exploit will not succeed? There
> are a lot mo
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:10 AM, Tomasz Kłoczko
wrote:
> Just FTR: So far I was unable to find in any of the fredesktop.org or
> other specs (https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/) things like
> requirement use /usr/local{bi,sbin} or ~.local/bin in $PATH (and
> especially on the front of the
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:53 AM Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
> Jan Kurik writes:
>
> > = Proposed System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/HiddenGrubMenu
> >
> >
> > Owner(s):
> > * Hans de Goede
> >
> >
> > On systems with only a single OS installed, the
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> On 5/2/18 7:15 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:36 AM Marius Vollmer
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Neal Gompa writes:
>>
And there's still the fun restriction of XFS not being able to shrink.
>>
>>> But note that even ext4 can't shri
On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Another solution might be to have a dnf plugin that forces a journal
>> flush (not a bad idea in general after loading updates), but that would
>> be kind of a band-aid over this problem
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:00:55AM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>> On 04/17/2018 12:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> >tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediately during
>> >installation (in %post), iff they are
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:36 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>> On 04/11/2018 03:13 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>>>> It may cause pain to current RHEL ansib
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 04/11/2018 03:13 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
>> EPEL is a default, critical requirement for many tools, including Chef
>> and mock. Many environments running RHEL or CentOS 6 could not be used
>> without EPEL
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 12 April 2018 at 11:48, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>> On 11.4.2018 21:31, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>>
>>> Miro Hrončok wrote:
This is important for those who like to maintain a single spec for
everything. Previously, there have
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 11 April 2018 at 10:02, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:43 AM, Alexander Bokovoy
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not in Ansible engineering or product management so tak
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:43 AM, Alexander Bokovoy wrote:
> I'm not in Ansible engineering or product management so take this with a
> grain of salt. My understanding is that cadence of Ansible releases and
> its aggressiveness in API changes makes it a bit less suitable to follow
> a traditional
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
>> And we've circled back to the original post starting this thread.
>>
>> Note: intent to *orphan*, not intent to *retire*.
>
> If it is not going to be retired, then why would we want to kill python2-*
> subpackages through
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:49 PM, John Reiser wrote:
> On 03/22/2018 01:51 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:52 AM, John Reiser
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 03/22/2018 05:40 AM, Daniel Mach wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>&g
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:52 AM, John Reiser wrote:
> On 03/22/2018 05:40 AM, Daniel Mach wrote:
>>
>> We are pleased to announce that development of DNF 3 has started. This
>> version is focused on performance improvements, new API and consolidating
>> the whole software management stack.
>
>
>
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Patrick Uiterwijk
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> If you maintain any application in Fedora Infra (or outside) that
> tries to parse things out of RPM names, you might be interested in
> this.
>
> For those wondering where I've been spending most of my time the last
> few we
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 3:58 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 02:22:49PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>> >
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:04:25AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>> wrote:
>> > I wanted to submit a PR for this, but I wasn't sure what the proper
>> > location is.
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:04:25AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>>&g
On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
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> Hash: SHA256
>
> I have built RPM with backported with/without/unless rich deps for F26.
>
> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ignatenkobrain/rpm-4.13.x-richd
> eps/
>
> Just update from this repo bef
On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:46 AM, chicago wrote:
>>> Good question. What is in this 20+58MB? Is it all text? Does most of it it
>>> change infrequ
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:46 AM, chicago wrote:
> Good question. What is in this 20+58MB? Is it all text? Does most of it it
> change infrequently?/Maybe we can diff it?
Most of it is pretty stable. But it's database-stored, and it's
compressed. Both cause the overall files to change and be awkwa
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> I was updating my mythtv box and I saw that it was pulling in some mysql
> community packages as a dependency but I looked through the options and I
> couldn't find ANYTHING that would tell me what was pulling in those
> packages. Nov "-v" and
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 7:44 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
>> "LT" == Luya Tshimbalanga writes:
>
> LT> When you get a chance, would you also update the spec guideline as
> LT> well?
>
> Which spec guideline did you mean? If you were referring to the
> packaging guidelines, they have said
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
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>
> On Mon, 2018-01-22 at 15:58 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 08:21:19PM +, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
>> > Yet anther thought ..
>> > As long as between major EL rele
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia said:
>> I don't see any modern scripting language where a leading 0 would lead
>> to interpreting a number as octal.
>
> I suggest you check again; I don't see any where
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:01 AM, J. Randall Owens
wrote:
> I'm not even the best at bash, much less the scripting in spec files,
> but is it possible this would be a problem because e.g. Fedora 26 would
> be evaluated as 026, which would evaluate as octal, and therefore the
> conditional evaluate
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 10:53 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>> Googling 'linux nobody uid' it appears nobody is a uid used by apps
>> that don't want to run as root. In case they got hacked the would
>> not have root privileges, but with SEli
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>
> On 01/12/2018 07:40 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> On Fr, 12.01.18 07:20, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>>> Instead of doing the blow by blow these threads
>>> always turn into I'm just going jump to the point.
>>>
>>> sys
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 6:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> And also, at some point in the future once this is implemented and the
> new setup has been around for a while, systemd should start emitting a
> warning during boot, to notify people that such setups will stop being
> supporte
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:26:19AM +, James Hogarth wrote:
>> I know this may sound fairly nasty in terms of work required to agree
>> a solution but I honestly have a strong dislike to taking this
>> approach.
>>
>> Having
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:39 AM, David Demelier wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 05:22:05AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> What RPM are you building from?
>
> I do rpmbuild -ba OpenRCT2.spec
I should have said "SRPM". What you have mentioned there is a .spec
file, a
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:13 AM, David Demelier wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to upgrade my OpenRCT 2 package [0] to fedora 27.
>
> It looks like something changed regarding the generation of debug files
> because
> I can't get it to build a .rpm anymore.
>
> I get:
>
> Processing files: Ope
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:56:46AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> Am 10.01.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Jan Kurik:
>> >On existing systems, to make upgrades easier:
>> >* if nfsnobody was defined, keep it in /etc/passwd *after* the
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Fernando Nasser wrote:
> On 2018-01-08 3:07 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Fernando Nasser
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2018-01-08 12:21 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Fernando Nasser wrote:
> On 2018-01-08 12:21 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is it a problem for a package to pull from two different
>> upstream tar balls? Basically have
>>
>> Source0: http://server.com/package1/package1.tar
>> Source1: http://server.c
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> I have two VMs, or OS states I can `rpm -qa` on. Is there a script to
> diff the output of the two listings, and then query the package
> changelogs to generate an overall OS-wide changelog?
This is so sensitive to individual environment r
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Wells, Roger K. wrote:
> It turns out that this delay only occurs when the suspend happened when an
> external filesystem is mounted.
> In this case a cifs mount, and IIRC there have been some issues related to
> version changes that necessitated specifying "vers=1
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:43 PM, wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
> Packaging deps is a virtuous circle: it makes the work of the next person who
> needs them for other software easier, which increases the chance other
> software is packaged, which increases the value of the distro as a whole, its
> attra
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:17 AM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]
wrote:
> So, I have tried to rebuild 'hylafax+' with 'urw-base35-fonts' and it
> passed:
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=22352204
>
> I suggest we rebase it newer version (5.5 -> 6.0.6 -- the latest stable
> release is a
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> If there is one thing I have learned in 20 years of dealing with
> RPMS... DON'T PLAY AROUND WITH EPOCH. It is a hack which should only
> be used as a last resort and a lot of tools are built around that
> assumption.. even if they don
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> systemd 235 was released today. A large number of issues was closed
> upstream, including many bug fixes, documentation updates, and
> long-standing RFEs. There are some new features, but relatively few
> entirely new fe
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am going to retire ghostscript-fonts package in F27 because its fonts
> are deprecated and replaced by urw-base35-fonts package. Only package
> which depends on ghostscript-fonts seems to be hylafax+ package, I
> created bugzilla for
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Do, 14.09.17 07:25, Nico Kadel-Garcia (nka...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> And... "let's replace something that is stable, long supported, and
>> works across multiple platforms with an untested new systemd
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Jakub Jelen wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-09-13 at 06:15 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> So, I'm a comaintainer of a package that uses libwrap and such
>> (stunnel), and I don't particularly want to lose the tcp_wrappers
>> support in it, because I use stunnel in containers t
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jack smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Would you like to consider to provide a less "bloated" KDE spin ? Here is the
> softs I suggest to remove to have a much cleaner base experience :
Heh. I've been publishing RPM building tools, for *years*, for vtwm.
If you're in the
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Jiří Eischmann wrote:
> Nico Kadel-Garcia píše v Út 18. 07. 2017 v 22:44 -0400:
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Debarshi Ray
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 09:44:18AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> > > On M
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Debarshi Ray wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 09:44:18AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 03:31:30PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
>> > F29: packagers (of graphical applications) must create Flatpaks of
>> > their applications if poss
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> = System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Graphical_Applications_as_Flatpaks
>>
>> Change owner(s):
>> * Owen Taylor
>
> This change is leaving several questi
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> We want to make the default installation do the right thing, as far as
> possible, on any system, without any explicit configuration or admin steps.
> In this case it's possible: if a virtualization "channel" is configured,
> we
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:45:51AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > Clearly what I meant was "any future non-backwards-compatible major
>> > Python release". Maybe *right now* you don't expect there to
It would help a *lot* if you would say the name of the game. I see
that it is "crawl", from https://crawl.develz.org/ . And I'm not a big
packager for Fedora, but do have some experience.
A casual review shows that you're using "install -D" in some places,
"mkdir" in others, not a biggie, just a c
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser
wrote:
> Am 31.05.2017 um 16:20 schrieb Jan Kurik:
>>
>> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Making sudo pip Safe (Again) =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Making_sudo_pip_safe
>>
>> Change owner(s):
>> * Michal Cyprian
>> * Petr Vi
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:20:49AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> Yes, authconfig is *not* a good tool for managing centralized authentication
>> services and its upstream has been unable to keep up with the changing needs
>> of
>> the s
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:54 AM, James Hogarth wrote:
> On 18 May 2017 at 11:03, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:31 AM, James Hogarth
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 May 2017 8:24 pm, "Tom Hughes" wrote:
>>>
&g
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:31 AM, James Hogarth wrote:
>
>
> On 17 May 2017 8:24 pm, "Tom Hughes" wrote:
>
> On 17/05/17 20:15, Chris Adams wrote:
>>
>> Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher said:
>>>
>>> Removing RPM dependencies on the net-tools package and deciding whether
>>> it should be installed b
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
>
> On 05/15/2017 11:30 AM, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote:
>>> The questions still hold for the consistency between passwd and shadow
>>> and also for the systemd module present.
>> Si
On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Dan Book wrote:
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
>>
>> * Jon [03/05/2017 15:57] :
>> >
>> > Normally Spot would revel these kind of topics.
>> >
>> > Where are you Spot?
>> >
>> > Have you run this topic through RH legal?
>>
>> Yes, it has b
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 1 May 2017 at 22:47, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>>> If the intended benefit of this change remains unclear, it may help to
>>> focus on a specific concret
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 1 May 2017 at 09:59, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> Wouldn't it be more effective, more safe, and more efficient to
>> improve the existing support for doing "the right thing", rather than
>> trying to ou
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 27 April 2017 at 11:47, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Charalampos Stratakis
>>> At the present time, running sudo pip3 in Fedora is not safe.
>>> Pip shares its installation dir
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Charalampos Stratakis
wrote:
> Forwarding to fedora-devel as well
>
> Charalampos Stratakis
> Associate Software Engineer
> Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michal Cyprian"
> To: python-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Rafal Luzynski
wrote:
> 23.04.2017 19:23 Christopher wrote:
>>
>> You can set the name of the file via the GitHub API when you download it.
>>
>> For jQuery (packaged as js-jquery), I use:
>> https://github.com/jquery/jquery/archive/%{version}/jquery-%{version}
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Jeandet Alexis
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On many places users are advised to use "pip install" to install python
> packages. As Fedora "evangelist" I also have to help my friends/colleagues
> to setup libs/softwares on Fedora. One the most common trap is the "pip
> install"
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 22:23 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
>>
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
>> > Because we think it's fundamentally a wrong approach.
>> >
>> > It's not really a quest
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Fernando Nasser wrote:
> On 2017-03-31 4:04 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 15:16:22 -0400, Fernando Nasser wrote:
>>
>>> A few issues I remember caused by unversioned Obsoletes (before they
>>> were banished to Hell) were:
>>>
>>> - Not being
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Tomasz Kłoczko
wrote:
>
> On 16 March 2017 at 04:50, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> [..]
>>
>> > And one more clarification: remove static libraries from glibc distro
>> > packages does not blocks static linking.
>> > It wil
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Tomasz Kłoczko
wrote:
>
> On 15 March 2017 at 00:05, Jonathan Wakely
> wrote:
>>
>> If glibc-static was removed from Fedora and that change propagated to
>> RHEL I know of companies that might stop being customers of Red Hat.
>>
>> Being unable to statically link
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:29:37AM -, Fa Be wrote:
>> It will be very beneficial for people if the Fedora project provides
>> the Minimal CD images of Fedora. It can attract more users to Fedora
>> and is very useful for people who have
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 01/22/2017 01:47 PM, Till Maas wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:47:15PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote:
>>>
>>> At a glance: the usual convention is 'make DESTDIR=... install', not
>>> 'make
>>> install DEST=---'
>>
>>
>> Actually there
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 01:17:52AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 15.01.2017 um 01:13 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
>> >== No need for static allocation, afaict
>> >games, man, slocate, squid, named, postgres, my
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:13 AM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> Emphasis is original, not mine.
>
> More to the point: it is entirely awful for the quality of Fedora as a
> whole if Rawhide is allowed to be completely broken for substantial
> periods of time - and this *did* make Rawhide completely brok
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:46:11 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>
>> > There is no reason to believe that the Nautilus devs aren't happy
>> > with
>> > the feature set, or else I cannot explain why this progress window
>> > feature has been cre
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:07:20 +, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> A directory containing 10,000 1MiB files moved to another directory
>>> completes immediately.
>>
>> The target directo
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 2:48 AM, Germano Massullo
wrote:
> We often deal with upstream developers that bundle libraries in their
> code, so to make a package we have to debundle them, etc.
> This time, an upstream dev. asked me what he could do to make easier
> the work of packagers.
> In this cas
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 02:08:48PM +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> On 11/09/2016 07:27 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> > On 11/09/2016 01:03 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>
>> >> Having it CAPS doesn't sound very nice ...
>> >>
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
> Andrew Toskin wrote:
>> If it were really important to make sure the user could no longer
>> access the system at all, why not just delete the account? Deleting
>> the user does not (necessarily) delete their data, so what's the use
>> case fo
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> On Oct 7, 2016 1:29 PM, "Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> > [...] I always run dnf manually from the
>> >> > command line, in a VT logged in as root. And I can run X while doing
>> >> > this and I've never had a dnf update issue.
>>
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> Well that boat sailed in 2001... so have you been removing it from
>> your /etc/shells in the last 15 years?
>
> No, because I was not aware that Fedora had been shipping with this security
> hole for 15 years! O
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:34 AM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
wrote:
> Hello,
> A user posted some issue on gnutls [0], and it turned out that after a
> fresh install of f24 that user had two versions of the library
> installed. I have no idea why this can be or whether that should be
> expected from
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:32:40PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> * IMHO the initial upstream default didn't make sense for Fedora
>
> On this specific change, I'm not sure the *updated* default makes sense
> either. It still is quite constra
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Athmane Madjoudj
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>> s3cmd
>
> I took s3cmd.
Good. s3cmd sems to have been superseded, at Amazon, by awscli.
Unfortunately, awscli is a !@#$!#@ to RPM bundle. I tried. The
difficulty is the
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III
wrote:
> After reading (some of) the "discussion" about systemd-logind's
> KillUserProcesses setting, I decided that I'd like to try enabling it
> and see how it works and how I can make it useful in my environment.
> Sorry, it's long, but I t
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Andreas Schneider wrote:
> On Monday, 29 August 2016 18:16:26 CEST Dario Lesca wrote:
>> This recent Microsoft's Patch
>> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2016-August/202197.html
>>
>> disable password change for Domain Controller NT4 Style.
>
> It is not knew
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Marcin Juszkiewicz
wrote:
> W dniu 08.08.2016 o 12:02, Christopher Meng pisze:
>> On Monday, 8 August 2016, Marcin Juszkiewicz
>
>>> 11:53 root@puchatek:~# LANGUAGE=C dnf remove yum
>>> Dependencies resolved.
>>>
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 12:15:09AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> Those do get ported. I didn't mean to be confusing. "buildbot", the
>> Python based build tool, is unlikely to ever be ported. Not that it
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:11 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
> wrote:
>> On 08/02/2016 12:25 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>>
>>> It's a burden, usually solved by ignoring one or the other. Since
>>>
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
wrote:
> On 08/02/2016 12:25 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
>> It's a burden, usually solved by ignoring one or the other. Since
>> systemd is always incompatible and always will be incompatible with
>> anythin
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 07:58:42AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> There remain compelling reasons to avoid systemd for daemons. The need
>> for system privileges to activate systemd based startups instead of
>>
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 04:18:18 +0100
> Sérgio Basto wrote:
>
>> why we need retire sysvinit-only packages ?
>
> Because they have had 10+ releases to adjust and haven't.
There remain compelling reasons to avoid systemd for daemons. The need
fo
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:19:07PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> Still not reasonable for Fedora, I think. Red Hat, and RHEL, can
>> manage registered licensing to build this binary blob. But binary
>> blobs
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:28:38PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> > Unfortunately to compile the source code to a bitstream, things get
>> > very proprietary. For Xilinx, you have to install their proprietary
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