Re: python-pip license changed (and clarified)

2018-08-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> On 31.7.2018 18:15, Jun Aruga wrote: >> >> 9.0.x -> 10.0.x then 18.0? >> >>> https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/master/NEWS.rst >>> Switch to a Calendar based versioning scheme. >> >> >> Oh they changed the versioning rule. > > > See

Re: python 2 retirement commo efforts

2018-07-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
Good numbers to provide, thanks. I've one thought for you. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:24 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > I did not try to structure and run a report to try to > enumerate and count by dependencies. Looking at the > problem with such a statistic, as to 'upstream' 'keystone' > packages wi

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-07-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 17.7.2018 14:16, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Charalampos Stratakis >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>>> &

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-07-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> From: "R P Herrold" >> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:57:11 PM >> Subject: Re: Intent to orphan Python 2 >> >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Miro Hronč

Re: Packages which needlessly use %defattr

2018-07-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> "KF" == Kevin Fenzi writes: > > KF> I agree. If this could be done before mass rebuild we can catch any > KF> issues/typos/mistakes in this with the mass rebuild. > > I've been away from computers for a bit, but I could certainly

Re: Packages which needlessly use %defattr

2018-07-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 2:59 AM, Jonny Heggheim wrote: > Hi Nico. > > > On 07/04/2018 03:58 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> Yeah, but since it's many thousands of packages, I think maybe you >> didn't have to send the whole list? > I like that he sent the

Re: Packages which needlessly use %defattr

2018-07-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > In a %files section of a specfile, the %defattr directive is used to set > the default file ownership and permissions. RPM has provided a sensible > default since version 4.4 (which predates FC6 and RHEL5), but very many > specfiles st

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-06-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Till Maas wrote: >> > So the assumption is to have a super sophisticated browser exploit for >> > which >> > an attacker most likely spent

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-06-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Till Maas wrote: > So the assumption is to have a super sophisticated browser exploit for which > an attacker most likely spent several days to find it and then the PATH > setting will make it so much harder that the exploit will not succeed? There > are a lot mo

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-06-12 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:10 AM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > Just FTR: So far I was unable to find in any of the fredesktop.org or > other specs (https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/) things like > requirement use /usr/local{bi,sbin} or ~.local/bin in $PATH (and > especially on the front of the

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu

2018-05-31 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:53 AM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Jan Kurik writes: > > > = Proposed System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/HiddenGrubMenu > > > > > > Owner(s): > > * Hans de Goede > > > > > > On systems with only a single OS installed, the

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 5/2/18 7:15 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:36 AM Marius Vollmer >> wrote: >> >>> Neal Gompa writes: >> And there's still the fun restriction of XFS not being able to shrink. >> >>> But note that even ext4 can't shri

Re: Fedora 27 kernel updates make system unbootable (sort of)

2018-04-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Chris Adams wrote: >> Another solution might be to have a dnf plugin that forces a journal >> flush (not a bad idea in general after loading updates), but that would >> be kind of a band-aid over this problem

Re: starting services in fedora

2018-04-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:00:55AM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: >> On 04/17/2018 12:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> >tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediately during >> >installation (in %post), iff they are

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Ansible in EL7

2018-04-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:36 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> On 04/11/2018 03:13 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >>>> It may cause pain to current RHEL ansib

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Ansible in EL7

2018-04-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 04/11/2018 03:13 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> EPEL is a default, critical requirement for many tools, including Chef >> and mock. Many environments running RHEL or CentOS 6 could not be used >> without EPEL&#x

Re: Python 2 will be replaced with Python 3 in the next RHEL major release

2018-04-12 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 12 April 2018 at 11:48, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> On 11.4.2018 21:31, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> >>> Miro Hrončok wrote: This is important for those who like to maintain a single spec for everything. Previously, there have

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Ansible in EL7

2018-04-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 11 April 2018 at 10:02, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:43 AM, Alexander Bokovoy >> wrote: >> >>> I'm not in Ansible engineering or product management so tak

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Ansible in EL7

2018-04-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:43 AM, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > I'm not in Ansible engineering or product management so take this with a > grain of salt. My understanding is that cadence of Ansible releases and > its aggressiveness in API changes makes it a bit less suitable to follow > a traditional

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: >> And we've circled back to the original post starting this thread. >> >> Note: intent to *orphan*, not intent to *retire*. > > If it is not going to be retired, then why would we want to kill python2-* > subpackages through

Re: Announcing DNF 3 development

2018-03-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:49 PM, John Reiser wrote: > On 03/22/2018 01:51 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:52 AM, John Reiser >> wrote: >>> >>> On 03/22/2018 05:40 AM, Daniel Mach wrote: >>>> >>>> >&g

Re: Announcing DNF 3 development

2018-03-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:52 AM, John Reiser wrote: > On 03/22/2018 05:40 AM, Daniel Mach wrote: >> >> We are pleased to announce that development of DNF 3 has started. This >> version is focused on performance improvements, new API and consolidating >> the whole software management stack. > > >

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Patrick Uiterwijk wrote: > Hi all, > > If you maintain any application in Fedora Infra (or outside) that > tries to parse things out of RPM names, you might be interested in > this. > > For those wondering where I've been spending most of my time the last > few we

Re: Escaping macros in %changelog

2018-03-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 3:58 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 02:22:49PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> >

Re: Escaping macros in %changelog

2018-03-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:04:25AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> wrote: >> > I wanted to submit a PR for this, but I wasn't sure what the proper >> > location is.

Re: Escaping macros in %changelog

2018-03-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:04:25AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >>&g

Re: Workaround for Re: Broken system upgrade due to rich dependencies

2018-03-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > I have built RPM with backported with/without/unless rich deps for F26. > > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ignatenkobrain/rpm-4.13.x-richd > eps/ > > Just update from this repo bef

Re: Why size of repositories metadata is too high in Fedora?

2018-03-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:46 AM, chicago wrote: >>> Good question. What is in this 20+58MB? Is it all text? Does most of it it >>> change infrequ

Re: Why size of repositories metadata is too high in Fedora?

2018-03-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:46 AM, chicago wrote: > Good question. What is in this 20+58MB? Is it all text? Does most of it it > change infrequently?/Maybe we can diff it? Most of it is pretty stable. But it's database-stored, and it's compressed. Both cause the overall files to change and be awkwa

Re: dnf: Can't tell me what is pulling in a dependency?

2018-02-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > I was updating my mythtv box and I saw that it was pulling in some mysql > community packages as a dependency but I looked through the options and I > couldn't find ANYTHING that would tell me what was pulling in those > packages. Nov "-v" and

Re: Removal of BuildRoot

2018-02-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 7:44 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> "LT" == Luya Tshimbalanga writes: > > LT> When you get a chance, would you also update the spec guideline as > LT> well? > > Which spec guideline did you mean? If you were referring to the > packaging guidelines, they have said

Re: EPEL support in "master" branch (aka speeding up Fedora development)

2018-01-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Mon, 2018-01-22 at 15:58 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 08:21:19PM +, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: >> > Yet anther thought .. >> > As long as between major EL rele

Re: Please stop re-adding gtk-update-icon-cache scriptlets (for Fedora)

2018-01-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia said: >> I don't see any modern scripting language where a leading 0 would lead >> to interpreting a number as octal. > > I suggest you check again; I don't see any where

Re: Please stop re-adding gtk-update-icon-cache scriptlets (for Fedora)

2018-01-19 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:01 AM, J. Randall Owens wrote: > I'm not even the best at bash, much less the scripting in spec files, > but is it possible this would be a problem because e.g. Fedora 26 would > be evaluated as 026, which would evaluate as octal, and therefore the > conditional evaluate

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 10:53 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > >> Googling 'linux nobody uid' it appears nobody is a uid used by apps >> that don't want to run as root. In case they got hacked the would >> not have root privileges, but with SEli

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-12 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Steve Dickson wrote: > > > On 01/12/2018 07:40 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Fr, 12.01.18 07:20, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: >> >>> Instead of doing the blow by blow these threads >>> always turn into I'm just going jump to the point. >>> >>> sys

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 6:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > And also, at some point in the future once this is implemented and the > new setup has been around for a while, systemd should start emitting a > warning during boot, to notify people that such setups will stop being > supporte

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:26:19AM +, James Hogarth wrote: >> I know this may sound fairly nasty in terms of work required to agree >> a solution but I honestly have a strong dislike to taking this >> approach. >> >> Having

Re: Empty debugsourcefiles.list when building out of source

2018-01-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:39 AM, David Demelier wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 05:22:05AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> What RPM are you building from? > > I do rpmbuild -ba OpenRCT2.spec I should have said "SRPM". What you have mentioned there is a .spec file, a

Re: Empty debugsourcefiles.list when building out of source

2018-01-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:13 AM, David Demelier wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to upgrade my OpenRCT 2 package [0] to fedora 27. > > It looks like something changed regarding the generation of debug files > because > I can't get it to build a .rpm anymore. > > I get: > > Processing files: Ope

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:56:46AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 10.01.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Jan Kurik: >> >On existing systems, to make upgrades easier: >> >* if nfsnobody was defined, keep it in /etc/passwd *after* the

Re: Package Question

2018-01-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Fernando Nasser wrote: > On 2018-01-08 3:07 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Fernando Nasser >> wrote: >>> >>> On 2018-01-08 12:21 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: >>>> >>>>

Re: Package Question

2018-01-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Fernando Nasser wrote: > On 2018-01-08 12:21 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Is it a problem for a package to pull from two different >> upstream tar balls? Basically have >> >> Source0: http://server.com/package1/package1.tar >> Source1: http://server.c

Re: Changelog between OS states (ie: VMs)

2018-01-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I have two VMs, or OS states I can `rpm -qa` on. Is there a script to > diff the output of the two listings, and then query the package > changelogs to generate an overall OS-wide changelog? This is so sensitive to individual environment r

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: After suspension

2018-01-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Wells, Roger K. wrote: > It turns out that this delay only occurs when the suspend happened when an > external filesystem is mounted. > In this case a cifs mount, and IIRC there have been some issues related to > version changes that necessitated specifying "vers=1

Re: packaging ruby dependencies

2017-10-25 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:43 PM, wrote: > Hi Jason, > > Packaging deps is a virtuous circle: it makes the work of the next person who > needs them for other software easier, which increases the chance other > software is packaged, which increases the value of the distro as a whole, its > attra

Re: Removing ghostscript-fonts package

2017-10-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:17 AM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > So, I have tried to rebuild 'hylafax+' with 'urw-base35-fonts' and it > passed: > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=22352204 > > I suggest we rebase it newer version (5.5 -> 6.0.6 -- the latest stable > release is a

Re: Giving us the ability to go backwards [was Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235]

2017-10-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > If there is one thing I have learned in 20 years of dealing with > RPMS... DON'T PLAY AROUND WITH EPOCH. It is a hack which should only > be used as a last resort and a lot of tools are built around that > assumption.. even if they don

Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235

2017-10-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi, > > systemd 235 was released today. A large number of issues was closed > upstream, including many bug fixes, documentation updates, and > long-standing RFEs. There are some new features, but relatively few > entirely new fe

Re: Removing ghostscript-fonts package

2017-10-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote: > Hi, > > I am going to retire ghostscript-fonts package in F27 because its fonts > are deprecated and replaced by urw-base35-fonts package. Only package > which depends on ghostscript-fonts seems to be hylafax+ package, I > created bugzilla for

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Deprecate TCP wrappers

2017-09-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Do, 14.09.17 07:25, Nico Kadel-Garcia (nka...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> And... "let's replace something that is stable, long supported, and >> works across multiple platforms with an untested new systemd

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Deprecate TCP wrappers

2017-09-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Jakub Jelen wrote: > On Wed, 2017-09-13 at 06:15 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: >> So, I'm a comaintainer of a package that uses libwrap and such >> (stunnel), and I don't particularly want to lose the tcp_wrappers >> support in it, because I use stunnel in containers t

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

2017-09-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jack smith wrote: > Hello, > > Would you like to consider to provide a less "bloated" KDE spin ? Here is the > softs I suggest to remove to have a much cleaner base experience : Heh. I've been publishing RPM building tools, for *years*, for vtwm. If you're in the

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

2017-07-21 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Jiří Eischmann wrote: > Nico Kadel-Garcia píše v Út 18. 07. 2017 v 22:44 -0400: >> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Debarshi Ray >> wrote: >> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 09:44:18AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> > > On M

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

2017-07-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Debarshi Ray wrote: > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 09:44:18AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 03:31:30PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: >> > F29: packagers (of graphical applications) must create Flatpaks of >> > their applications if poss

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

2017-07-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> = System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Graphical_Applications_as_Flatpaks >> >> Change owner(s): >> * Owen Taylor > > This change is leaving several questi

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: VirtualBox Guest Integration

2017-07-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > We want to make the default installation do the right thing, as far as > possible, on any system, without any explicit configuration or admin steps. > In this case it's possible: if a virtualization "channel" is configured, > we

Re: Proposed Mass Bug Filing: Renaming "python-" binary packages to "python2-"

2017-07-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:45:51AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: >> Adam Williamson wrote: >> > Clearly what I meant was "any future non-backwards-compatible major >> > Python release". Maybe *right now* you don't expect there to

Re: Directory permissions for games

2017-06-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
It would help a *lot* if you would say the name of the game. I see that it is "crawl", from https://crawl.develz.org/ . And I'm not a big packager for Fedora, but do have some experience. A casual review shows that you're using "install -D" in some places, "mkdir" in others, not a biggie, just a c

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: Making sudo pip Safe (Again)

2017-06-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > Am 31.05.2017 um 16:20 schrieb Jan Kurik: >> >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Making sudo pip Safe (Again) = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Making_sudo_pip_safe >> >> Change owner(s): >> * Michal Cyprian >> * Petr Vi

Re: Wild changes in nsswitch.conf

2017-05-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Jakub Hrozek wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:20:49AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Yes, authconfig is *not* a good tool for managing centralized authentication >> services and its upstream has been unable to keep up with the changing needs >> of >> the s

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:54 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > On 18 May 2017 at 11:03, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:31 AM, James Hogarth >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 17 May 2017 8:24 pm, "Tom Hughes" wrote: >>> &g

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:31 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 17 May 2017 8:24 pm, "Tom Hughes" wrote: > > On 17/05/17 20:15, Chris Adams wrote: >> >> Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher said: >>> >>> Removing RPM dependencies on the net-tools package and deciding whether >>> it should be installed b

Re: Wild changes in nsswitch.conf

2017-05-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On 05/15/2017 11:30 AM, Jakub Hrozek wrote: >> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: >>> The questions still hold for the consistency between passwd and shadow >>> and also for the systemd module present. >> Si

Re: mp3 encoding now ok

2017-05-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Dan Book wrote: > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: >> >> * Jon [03/05/2017 15:57] : >> > >> > Normally Spot would revel these kind of topics. >> > >> > Where are you Spot? >> > >> > Have you run this topic through RH legal? >> >> Yes, it has b

Re: What is your opinion on "sudo pip" fix for Fedora 27?

2017-05-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 1 May 2017 at 22:47, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >>> If the intended benefit of this change remains unclear, it may help to >>> focus on a specific concret

Re: What is your opinion on "sudo pip" fix for Fedora 27?

2017-05-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 1 May 2017 at 09:59, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> Wouldn't it be more effective, more safe, and more efficient to >> improve the existing support for doing "the right thing", rather than >> trying to ou

Re: What is your opinion on "sudo pip" fix for Fedora 27?

2017-04-30 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 27 April 2017 at 11:47, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Charalampos Stratakis >>> At the present time, running sudo pip3 in Fedora is not safe. >>> Pip shares its installation dir

Re: What is your opinion on "sudo pip" fix for Fedora 27?

2017-04-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > Forwarding to fedora-devel as well > > Charalampos Stratakis > Associate Software Engineer > Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat > > - Original Message - > From: "Michal Cyprian" > To: python-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent

Re: how to handle source code from github

2017-04-24 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Rafal Luzynski wrote: > 23.04.2017 19:23 Christopher wrote: >> >> You can set the name of the file via the GitHub API when you download it. >> >> For jQuery (packaged as js-jquery), I use: >> https://github.com/jquery/jquery/archive/%{version}/jquery-%{version}

Re: pip install advice

2017-04-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Jeandet Alexis wrote: > Hi, > > On many places users are advised to use "pip install" to install python > packages. As Fedora "evangelist" I also have to help my friends/colleagues > to setup libs/softwares on Fedora. One the most common trap is the "pip > install"

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 22:23 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon >> wrote: >> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: >>

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: >> > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: >> > Because we think it's fundamentally a wrong approach. >> > >> > It's not really a quest

Re: Unversioned Obsoletes (was Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency)

2017-04-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Fernando Nasser wrote: > On 2017-03-31 4:04 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> >> On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 15:16:22 -0400, Fernando Nasser wrote: >> >>> A few issues I remember caused by unversioned Obsoletes (before they >>> were banished to Hell) were: >>> >>> - Not being

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

2017-03-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > On 16 March 2017 at 04:50, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > [..] >> >> > And one more clarification: remove static libraries from glibc distro >> > packages does not blocks static linking. >> > It wil

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

2017-03-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > On 15 March 2017 at 00:05, Jonathan Wakely > wrote: >> >> If glibc-static was removed from Fedora and that change propagated to >> RHEL I know of companies that might stop being customers of Red Hat. >> >> Being unable to statically link

Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

2017-02-19 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:29:37AM -, Fa Be wrote: >> It will be very beneficial for people if the Fedora project provides >> the Minimal CD images of Fedora. It can attract more users to Fedora >> and is very useful for people who have

Re: packaging problem - rm: cannot remove ... Permission denied

2017-01-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 01/22/2017 01:47 PM, Till Maas wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:47:15PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: >>> >>> At a glance: the usual convention is 'make DESTDIR=... install', not >>> 'make >>> install DEST=---' >> >> >> Actually there

Re: drop obsolete static uid/gid allocations

2017-01-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 01:17:52AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 15.01.2017 um 01:13 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: >> >== No need for static allocation, afaict >> >games, man, slocate, squid, named, postgres, my

Re: mutter broken in Rawhide

2016-12-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:13 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Emphasis is original, not mine. > > More to the point: it is entirely awful for the quality of Fedora as a > whole if Rawhide is allowed to be completely broken for substantial > periods of time - and this *did* make Rawhide completely brok

Re: Nautilus usability

2016-11-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:46:11 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > >> > There is no reason to believe that the Nautilus devs aren't happy >> > with >> > the feature set, or else I cannot explain why this progress window >> > feature has been cre

Re: Nautilus usability

2016-11-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:07:20 +, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >>> A directory containing 10,000 1MiB files moved to another directory >>> completes immediately. >> >> The target directo

Re: upstream dev. asks suggestions about howto make packagers work easier (bundled libraries, etc.)

2016-11-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 2:48 AM, Germano Massullo wrote: > We often deal with upstream developers that bundle libraries in their > code, so to make a package we have to debundle them, etc. > This time, an upstream dev. asked me what he could do to make easier > the work of packagers. > In this cas

Re: RFC: Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 02:08:48PM +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> On 11/09/2016 07:27 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > On 11/09/2016 01:03 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> >> >> Having it CAPS doesn't sound very nice ... >> >>

Re: /sbin/nologin in /etc/shells

2016-10-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > Andrew Toskin wrote: >> If it were really important to make sure the user could no longer >> access the system at all, why not just delete the account? Deleting >> the user does not (necessarily) delete their data, so what's the use >> case fo

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Oct 7, 2016 1:29 PM, "Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote: >> >> >> >> > [...] I always run dnf manually from the >> >> > command line, in a VT logged in as root. And I can run X while doing >> >> > this and I've never had a dnf update issue. >>

Re: /sbin/nologin in /etc/shells

2016-09-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> Well that boat sailed in 2001... so have you been removing it from >> your /etc/shells in the last 15 years? > > No, because I was not aware that Fedora had been shipping with this security > hole for 15 years! O

Re: duplicate package on fresh install

2016-09-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:34 AM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > Hello, > A user posted some issue on gnutls [0], and it turned out that after a > fresh install of f24 that user had two versions of the library > installed. I have no idea why this can be or whether that should be > expected from

Re: A tale of systemd and MaxProcs

2016-09-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:32:40PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> * IMHO the initial upstream default didn't make sense for Fedora > > On this specific change, I'm not sure the *updated* default makes sense > either. It still is quite constra

Re: orphaning ec2-metadata, system-autodeath, s3cmd

2016-09-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: >> s3cmd > > I took s3cmd. Good. s3cmd sems to have been superseded, at Amazon, by awscli. Unfortunately, awscli is a !@#$!#@ to RPM bundle. I tried. The difficulty is the

Re: My experiences with KillUserProcesses=yes on F24

2016-09-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > After reading (some of) the "discussion" about systemd-logind's > KillUserProcesses setting, I decided that I'd like to try enabling it > and see how it works and how I can make it useful in my environment. > Sorry, it's long, but I t

Re: Samba DC NT4 Style is Gone. It may be time to enable AD-DC for default into Fedora Samba4 packages?

2016-08-30 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Andreas Schneider wrote: > On Monday, 29 August 2016 18:16:26 CEST Dario Lesca wrote: >> This recent Microsoft's Patch >> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2016-August/202197.html >> >> disable password change for Domain Controller NT4 Style. > > It is not knew

Re: Long live YUM!

2016-08-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > W dniu 08.08.2016 o 12:02, Christopher Meng pisze: >> On Monday, 8 August 2016, Marcin Juszkiewicz > >>> 11:53 root@puchatek:~# LANGUAGE=C dnf remove yum >>> Dependencies resolved. >>>

Re: finish retirement of sysvinit-only packages Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-29)

2016-08-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Solomon Peachy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 12:15:09AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> Those do get ported. I didn't mean to be confusing. "buildbot", the >> Python based build tool, is unlikely to ever be ported. Not that it

Re: finish retirement of sysvinit-only packages Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-29)

2016-08-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:11 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson > wrote: >> On 08/02/2016 12:25 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >>> It's a burden, usually solved by ignoring one or the other. Since >>>

Re: finish retirement of sysvinit-only packages Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-29)

2016-08-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 08/02/2016 12:25 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> It's a burden, usually solved by ignoring one or the other. Since >> systemd is always incompatible and always will be incompatible with >> anythin

Re: finish retirement of sysvinit-only packages Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-29)

2016-08-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Solomon Peachy wrote: > On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 07:58:42AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> There remain compelling reasons to avoid systemd for daemons. The need >> for system privileges to activate systemd based startups instead of >>

Re: finish retirement of sysvinit-only packages Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-29)

2016-08-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 04:18:18 +0100 > Sérgio Basto wrote: > >> why we need retire sysvinit-only packages ? > > Because they have had 10+ releases to adjust and haven't. There remain compelling reasons to avoid systemd for daemons. The need fo

Re: Packaging FPGA bitstreams

2016-07-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:19:07PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> Still not reasonable for Fedora, I think. Red Hat, and RHEL, can >> manage registered licensing to build this binary blob. But binary >> blobs

Re: Packaging FPGA bitstreams

2016-07-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:28:38PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> > Unfortunately to compile the source code to a bitstream, things get >> > very proprietary. For Xilinx, you have to install their proprietary

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