Re: Any voluteers for maintaining xml-security-c?

Hi, Just requested admin access to this package. kloczek PS. Thanks for help guys from #fedora-admin sponsoring my packager privs :) -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* On 22 February 2017 at 19:51, <mih...@fedoraproject.org> wro

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

Guidelines. > * The Group: tag is unnecessary. > And now someone should add to git filtering off above, process all spec files in git repos and commit necessary changes adding in commit comment link to updated guidelines. Without this even in a year still will be in many spec files not compliant

Re: [HEADS UP] fprintd-pam update vs "authconfig --update"

am not PAM > expert, any comments are welcome. > autoconf --update is only for developers. Warning about this should be added to rpmlint. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* __

Re: [critpath] gawk - 2 new subpackages & other changes

ocumentation in these formats always can download original texi files and generate doc in any format. Such needs now are so rare that distributing copies of such doc (just in case) as packages is IMO waste of time and resources. Other thing is that documentation should be integrated in packages and

Re: F26 System Wide Change: OpenSSL 1.1.0

ushing to git change with above? kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

I think that I've prove above that now IPS is not essential maybe another time I'll try to write longer comment why rpm is already dead :) kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list --

Re: F26 System Wide Change: OpenSSL 1.1.0

to libxml2-devel, bump release and push to rebuild package. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Someone needs to stop texlive madness!!!

tool and I'm still able to amaze quality of the typography on printed single A4 page people who never saw document printed from compiled TeX document (especially if it is formal document which will be read by someone who cares about aesthetics), however what needs to be delivered as dist rpm

Someone needs to stop texlive madness!!!

es and patches and texlive today example is PERFECT example that this expertise is 100% right. PS^2, Sorry to be so emotional but I have almost no respect to people with elementary lack of sensitivity of simplicity. -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: More texlive woes in rawhide

texlive will be affecting huge list of other packages reinstallations introducing nothing nw. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* On 11 October 2016 at 07:50, Gianluca Sforna <gia...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > it seems right n

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

e trying to archive without radical change which Solaris acceped and implemented decade ago it will be only WASTE OF TIME. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@list

Re: Someone needs to stop texlive madness!!!

thon and few other. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [RFC] Standardizing RPM macro for out-of-tree builds

ly some common way of formatting spec files (human brain is well adapted to find patterns or is able to easy catch breaking those patterns .. so common formatting wouch be helpful on find issues with some spec files). kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <

Re: Someone needs to stop texlive madness!!!

texlive at least few times will try to fix not only this trigger issue but whole texlive packaging approach :) Have a good weekend :) kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- d

Re: Someone needs to stop texlive madness!!!

ng ths packages generator however whatever has been generated should be not used blindly in this case. I can imagine that every texlive package could be generated initially as separated spec file. After this few people should decide after careful review "ok, I'm going to take this piece, polish an publis

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

some maintainer understanding that it is even some grain of risk here solving it even by hardcoding fixed paths could be accepted by some number of maintainers. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* __

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

keep it around for quite a while. Again, to help those programs that > actually use it. > Who is proposing to remove NIS/NIS+/YP support from Fedora? (Definitely not me .. and it is second time today here when someone is interpreting my "can we please change it?" as "can we b

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

ne who initiated change and/or other packagers) under initial ticket to have proper view of the state whole work. Just please do not send me to the /dev/tree or ask me to "wait on the Godot". This is not something what I can try to "process"

Re: Any voluteers for maintaining xml-security-c?

I'm asking again for help here. More than month ago was sent email with call for volunteers to maintain xml-security-c package. No one told me what needs to be done here or on IRC. It is really so discouraging .. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

e stop using guessing :) kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

ced, maintained for some period of time and/or abandoned as creating to many long term problems. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Any voluteers for maintaining xml-security-c?

On 30 March 2017 at 21:00, Mihkel Vain <tura...@gmail.com> wrote: > JFYI. I wrote an e-mail to anttix asking to grant admin right to Tomasz. > We'll see if he responds. > I was in the middle of writing email to anttix and good that I've red this email :) Thank you very much. klo

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

n code than using it. Probably it would be good to put pydoc in devel as pydoc can be started in service mode providing over http documentation browsing services probably such thing should not be by default installed on prod hosts (now is hard to avoid this). Am I right? kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | Li

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

with an own versioning scheme, > and Epoch is the only way to handle that, regardless of whether a package > is installed already. > If package is present in rpm database only in form of "Provides: A--" for resolver effectively it is like such package is really installed. Ergo:

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

y on *trust*. So .. please back together to the meritum. Let's try to reproduce exactly this case which caused forming (MO incorrect) advice in FPG :) kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Provenpackagers dealing with -Werror=format-security issues

On 19 March 2017 at 02:46, Tomasz Kłoczko <kloczko.tom...@gmail.com> wrote: > Will try to take care of those few but it is possible that it is few more > possible ways to lower compile time warnings verbosity level. > Started cleaning parted.spec and found method *much*

Re: Provenpackagers dealing with -Werror=format-security issues

is changing here in wrong direction. Will try to take care of those few but it is possible that it is few more possible ways to lower compile time warnings verbosity level. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXP

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

g every OS evolutions. It is *very easy* to *completely remove such risk*. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

vide glibc-static. Static > linking > > Umm. No. You're mistaking "reduction of library dependencies" with > "discaarding static library compilation". You been a bit ticked my distraction in whole discussion that linker optimization has something to do with stati

Re: uClibc-ng (was Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution)

eful pebble in the my hands :) kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Provenpackagers dealing with -Werror=format-security issues

ut no. I have allergy on answers "no because no" and similar like "no thank you, but no" ;-) Can you explain why? kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Provenpackagers dealing with -Werror=format-security issues

about types and locations of warning in some text file per package which will be easier to parse and process. Parsing raw gcc stderr output may be not so useful in such case. Even without above raw build logs preserved on koji enriched but full warnings verbosity has some very big potential. kloczek

Re: Provenpackagers dealing with -Werror=format-security issues

https://www.zabbix.com/forum/member.php?u=1703), and contributing time to time some small fixes to it I can say that probably choosing zabbix here would be best choice. kloczek: -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* __

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

On 16 March 2017 at 16:17, Tomasz Kłoczko <kloczko.tom...@gmail.com> wrote: > BTW: during checking that current Fedora glibc static binaries are not > ready even solve those well known scenarios I found that already glibc spec > file is generating glibs-nss-devel subpackage. >

%checks framework standardisation idea proposal (Was: Static libraries in Fedora distribution)

y at 3am) It would would be not a keyword but dependency field like existing Requires, Requires([post|posun|pre|preun) and BuildRequires. CheckRequires would indicating special dependencies only to have successful %check section stage execution. Typical case is that

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

ribution build layer will be provided as well. In such scenarios uClibc will be additionally tested on Distro layer during regular builds of some distribution packages. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* __

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

before all -l parameters. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

On 18 March 2017 at 21:40, Richard W.M. Jones <rjo...@redhat.com> wrote: > > Did you try to link it against uClibc? > > Yes, supermin supports several alternate libc. So it is -1 from critical glibc-static using projects :) kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://ln

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

be removed as well from glibc-static dependent packages? :) kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

not hurts to much (hever whole library public symbols jump table must be fully initialized and loaded into memory so it is some noticeable cost of it ..). kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ dev

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

n whole distro level should be everyone goal as well :) Summarising. There are at least three reasons why static libraries should be completely removed from distribution: 1) Constant ABI changes 2) Security risk 3) Waste of time/resources on building and providing static libraries kloczek

gdm processes

in the past Gnome started derailing from the KISS principle path. Is it any existing alternative to start Gnome desktop not over GDM? kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | Tel: 0774 1209067 | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel m

Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

ost script checking are any of configure.{in.ac} files contains AC_ENABLE_STATIC aclocal macro and recommend push to original source tree change this to AC_DIABLE_STATIC and/or at least make sure that in %build in %configure parameters is s used --disable-static. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko |

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

ng and packaging man static subpackages. Other conclusion is that above grep output is way to shot comare with those +190 -static subpackages so definitely something like 2/3 of those subpackages can be removed without any risk. On above suspiciously i

Re: gdm processes

88MB, but that's the price we pay for > feature-full login screen. > As long as gdm user has some possibility to log in to the system other users I would be really unhappy to discover that some security bug in those processes was used to login into my system some parasites :) kloczek -- Tom

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution

If you are still *thinking* that you are right, it may be really truth .. that you are *only thinking* that you are right :) kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

y to convince me. Rally forget about me. I'm probably one of the smallest beatles here. Just please sit down with him and try to convince *him* that there is no at all risk here. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | Tel: 0774 1209067 | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

changing in Fedora to analyse current state and write some short report. In next few days will try to write a bit more detailed report about current state to stamp current state to observe how things are changing. >From my side EOT .. if no one have anything new to add (?) kloczek -- Tomasz K

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

it is still some alternative which could be considered as glibc-static replacement. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

(Resending below as looks like I've replied only to Jan) On 16 March 2017 at 18:01, Jan Kratochvil <jkrat...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 01:32:06 +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > OK here is full list of spec files which have glibc-static in > BuildRequires: &

Re: Provenpackagers dealing with -Werror=format-security issues

> (who knows me knows that I'm mumbler) Will try to write somewhere more about above maybe at the end of this week or next week, and only drop here link to such text. I don't want to be to noisy here (I feel that I've already reached some boundaries ..) -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://

Re: gdm processes

the switch-user > functionality. > It would be nicer of course for it to go away after login, since many > people just log in once per reboot. > You forgot that with some of those processes is possible to communicate over unix sockets. Keeping things simple as possible is always is main princ

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution

u don't need to link such test binary with libc.a. Will have shortly full assessment of what really is using in Fedora glibc-static. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- d

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

king with other libraries, and software like golang probably should not be doing own static linking tests because for such static linking is responsible binutils ld. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>*

Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution (Was: Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift)

onsulted with binutils maintainers because they would able to asses risk of doing such change. As long as I've done many times full recompilation on the scale of whole distribution in the past I know that sometimes is necessary to add small linker fix when library X is linked with other libraries A and B

Proposal [draft]: introduction default ld --as-needed and koji new functionality (Was: Re: Static libraries in Fedora distribution)

green light from core Fedora developers/maintainers committee that as it is described here it looks acceptable to start working on details. (Simple I don't want to waste other people and my time if such proposal will be refused .. but IMO it is really worth because it is kind of game changer). I'm

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

lable > #>install bar-1-1.x86_64@available > May I ask what it is? kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

you probably noticed I'm trying to not reply to such comments but this one I found as kind good opportunity to tell something about m past and my motivation. Tomasz Kłoczko | Tel: 0774 1209067 | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>*

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

c returns to life. Q.E.D. IMO .. case is closed. Now I know why I had problem with understanding this scenario because leaving Obsolete line for me was and still is completely irrational so initially I've not been even thinking after more than 20 years of using rpm someone decided to use it incorre

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

first job in UK was "don't move, improve") dnf used to be only adding on top of raw rpm possibility to operate on packages repositories. For some reason someone decided to replace rpm adding of course in new code bugs which even 20 years ago in rpm implemented in perl not been present. klocz

Re: Provenpackagers dealing with -Werror=format-security issues

sions. This definitely could be longer process but consisting from relatively simple to control steps. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

On 2 April 2017 at 12:20, Igor Gnatenko <ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > All your points here are basically going to /dev/null if you are not > going to contact FPC > Funny .. seems you assuming that I know what FPC stands fr. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn:

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

ow I wrote something please accept my apology. Next time please post something about what you've just done/tested. Something which I can try to prove/disprove. I hope still we can back to technical dispute. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

onfused now :-L kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

f FPG? Can it work always?" To everyone: instead spending time on writing reply *please* invest exactly the same time to execute and analyse what is inside this tests .. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* _

Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift

arches ... > Despite such simple to fix bug using static libraries should be removed. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: Any voluteers for maintaining xml-security-c?

Hi, I'm not sure what is the proper way for this kind of situations. After I've requested admin access to xml-security-c ans send some email to admin of this package I have no reply. Just humble question: what should be done in such situations and/or what can/should I do? kloczek Tomasz Kłoczko

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

r. Remember that rpm dependencies resolver has own logic/mechanics which is not obvious, and is able to resolve circular or complicated planar/non-planar graphs dependencies. Sometimes on using plain rpm is possible to observe its work as exact order of packages passed in "rpm -Uvh" parameters

Re: [Help Wanted] PPC64LE build for thrift

. I promise that I'll find a way how to not send such emails here next time. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

d RPM. It will be quite easy because using pkgbuild (https://pkgbuild.sf.net/)is possible to build IPS packages using only slightly adapted RPM spec files. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedo

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

; glibc is one of the best anti examples about how to write specs files. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

On 27 April 2017 at 21:54, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: > Am 27.04.2017 um 21:50 schrieb Tomasz Kłoczko: >> >> OK so what kind of problem solves those changes? Can I have look on some >> bugzilla entry? > > split packages where it *really* matters

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

tch from RPM to IPS. I'm only trying to tell that as IPS is fully OSS it can be used as stash of ideas which can be easily adapted on top of current RPM. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@list

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 at 09:19, Milan Crha wrote: > Different > people has different point of view, different opinions, different > priorities. > Can you tell us something about those priorities or maybe point to some URL where those priorities are listed? I'm not like you

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

ction is possible to add %doc tokens and by this possible to choose install system without installed documentation (and this is why this overkill with doc packages already happens). Installation with documentation exclusion is fully supported by rpm, dff and anaconda installer as well. kloczek

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

y instead investing in rpm development is less important than moving whole packaging to pre %land() and %doc era (something like +17 years ago). kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

at splitting langpack subpackages may solve something you are 100% right .. you are only thinking. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH -- Tomasz Kłoczko | Tel: 0774 1209067 | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH <http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH>* ___

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

pgrade, and users > can still uninstall langpacks. > > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1260394 for some > discussion. > > Zbyszek > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe se

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

OK so what kind of problem solves those changes? Can I have look on some bugzilla entry? kloczek On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 at 21:47, Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 07:25:32PM +0000, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > Seems like splitting langpacks sub

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

me or name me as an idiot/fool (as some other people in this thread not able to add any new argument) but I'm only messenger .. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Wild changes in nsswitch.conf

sd to clear its passwd map cache. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Wild changes in nsswitch.conf

configured before the files module > in nsswitch.conf and the system could leverage sss_nss caching for both > local and remote users. So someone reinvented the wheel/nscd? kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mail

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

ex.html http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E53394_01/ kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

command syntax (look on IPS "pkg" command syntax). kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

lling again "we can do better!". kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

Fedora probably just > isn't for you? Is it really so hard to guess that Linux and Solaris have own niches on OS market and I'm kind of those guys which needs both OSes? kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mai

Re: Split translations to noarch packages?

ng switching to IPS.* I've pointed on IPS as software with tested and implemented some ideas about PM which can be *imported* to the RPM. Please read one more time whole thread. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel

Re: mc 4.8.19-1 broken

25 and > maybe fedora 24, too. Just requested in fesco trac take over mc as maintainer is not responding. Hopefully shortly will be able to fix this issue. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mai

Re: Packages giveaway

isting Policy Server > xls2csv -- A script that recodes a spreadsheet's charset and saves as CSV > yamllint -- A linter for YAML files > zmap -- Network scanner for Internet-wide network studies If no one requestet above packages will be glad to take care of them :) kloczek -

Re: GNOME 3.25.92 megaupdate

ly what I wrote. Running those binaries per package is no longer needed as already implemented triggers are doing all what is needs to be done. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorap

Re: GNOME 3.25.92 megaupdate

On 6 September 2017 at 11:43, Tomasz Kłoczko <kloczko.tom...@gmail.com> wrote: [..] > 3) As long as hicolor theme is default theme updating its cache can > still be in gtk-update-icon-cache package. > > What happens with other directories than /usr/share/icons/hicolor is > i

Re: GNOME 3.25.92 megaupdate

ons themes directories? defailt points to Inherits=Adwaita but I don't see how with this hicolor is linked? Is this all correct? On first looks what is currently is a bit messy (?) kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: GNOME 3.25.92 megaupdate

o pages triggers (almost 300 packages can be simplified after introduce this trigger) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1482019 This will be shortly resolved as I only need to write announcement about this here (as I promised :)) kloczek -- Tomasz

Re: GNOME 3.25.92 megaupdate

k3 patch submission until it will be clear decision here. IMO it would be better to have triggers per themes as looks like number of such triggers will be not huge and each one will be doing *exactly* what needs to be done and no more (but it is only my personal +1 for such option). kloczek -- Tomasz

Re: GNOME 3.25.92 megaupdate

ko@domek SPECS.fedora]$ for i in glib-compile-schemas gtk-update-icon-cache update-desktop-database; do echo -n $i " "; grep -l $i *spec |wc -l; done glib-compile-schemas 205 gtk-update-icon-cache 1393 update-desktop-database 528 kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko |

Re: Translations in an RPM spec (was: Ye Cheng: Looking for a sponsor/reintroduce myself)

age install time choose which one languages should be copied to rpm database by checking "%_install_langs " which can be added to /etc/rpm/rpmrc (BTW .. aal this is already supported from +10 years) on package install/upgrade time completely transparently. This will allow as well separate well transla

Re: Translations in an RPM spec

On 26 August 2017 at 16:21, Björn Persson <Bjorn@rombobjörn.se> wrote: > Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > This how it IMO should be done: > [..] > That looks like a good plan for how large numbers of translators can > contribute translations to many different languages. >

Re: RFC: -Wl,--as-needed by default (and glibc ldconfig file trigger)

by one. As f28 development cycle still is in the middle IMO it is right time to apply at least one of those two changes (if not both). kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: RFC: -Wl,--as-needed by default (and glibc ldconfig file trigger)

On 21 November 2017 at 10:43, Igor Gnatenko <ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Tue, 2017-11-21 at 10:26 +0000, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: >> So is it any final decision about start use by default --as-needed in &g

Re: RFC: -Wl,--as-needed by default (and glibc ldconfig file trigger)

ade packages time by at least 20% (less memory on the system or slower storage than impact will be even bigger) by not wasting time on ldconfig multiple time executing in every packages with libraries scriptlets. This change as well is about regain a lot of time and IOs on Fedora build infrastruc

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