Orphaned packages

2020-03-07 Thread Brendan Jones
Hello,

the following packages have been orphaned and require a primary maintainer.
Feel free to take them over

Add64
aj-snapshot
ambdec
dssi
dssi-vst
gluidsynth
fluidsynth-dssi
freq-tweak
fst
giada
gnome-guitar
harmony-seq
hexter-dssi
jackctlmmc
jmeters
ladish
libinstpatch
lv2-artyfx-plugins
lv2-avw-plugins
lv2-c++-tools
lv2-fabla
lv2-fomp-plugins
lv2-mdaEPiano
lv2-mdala-plugins
lv2-newtonator
lv2-sorcer
lv2-swh-plugins
lv2-triceratops
lv2-vocoder-plugins
lv2-x42-plugins
meterbridge
mxml
nekobee-dssi
non-daw
non-session-manager
portmidi
radium-compressor
realTimeConfigQuickScan
seq24
soundtracker
whysynth-dssi
xsynth-dssi

 regards

Brendan
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Re: orphaning all my packages

2016-04-26 Thread Brendan Jones


On 26/04/16 13:16, François Cami wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've ack'ed all the requests and orphaned the rest of my packages.
>
> Please note that this is due to a chronic lack of free time and has
> nothing to do with Fedora itself. You are a wonderful community :)
>
> All the best,
> François
>
Thanks for your contributions! It is well appreciated
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Re: GCC6: failure with -isystem /usr/include

2016-02-23 Thread Brendan Jones

On 15/02/16 07:46, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:

The new version of qjackctl, which now depends on qt5. We cannot do
the update without fixing this. As far as I can tell, the qjackctl
does not use the QMAKE_DEFAULT_INCDIRS directly. The offending flags
come through qmake.

Other than this the new qsynth also has the same issue when built with
autotools. Fortunately, qsynth provides an alternative cmake build
system which doesn't call qmake. We were able to build qsynth with
that one.

I don't know any other examples but I suspect any package using
qmake-qt5 could have this problem.



This also affects qtractor

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Re: Staled build

2015-11-24 Thread Brendan Jones

On 25/11/15 04:25, Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich wrote:

Hi!

I have an issue with building a package under arm arch [1]. i686 and
x86_64 builds completed with no errors but not arm. It is running (or
staled) already more then for 10 hours.

The question: could I somehow investigate what going on there? And how
(if yes)? I have no arm machine to run this build directly.

Dmitrij

[1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=701204
I experienced the same thing yesterday. Looks like the stall happens 
after the build phase (which only took half an hour). It actually 
completed after 14 hours after that.


https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=11962048
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Comps group for Fedora Audio Spin packages

2014-07-10 Thread Brendan Jones

Hi all,

does anyone have any objection to a new comps group containing packages 
currently present in the Fedora Jam audio spin?


We will be discussing names further within the music creation SIG / 
fedora-music mailing list soon, but Audio Production or Music Creation 
are two that immediately spring to mind. Suggestions welcome.


regards

Brendan
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Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-02-03 Thread Brendan Jones

On 01/31/2014 12:28 PM, Ian Malone wrote:

On 30 January 2014 23:07, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Przemek Klosowski
przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote:

On 01/29/2014 07:10 PM, Ian Malone wrote:

On 29 January 2014 23:58, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

I consider myself squarely in the middle of those two camps.  I think
they have value to people.  I think they fill a niche, however large
or small it might be.  I also think they can be done by the people
wishing to provide them without relying on Fedora resources for
hosting and creation (outside of leveraging existing packages and
repositories).

I don't consider that getting rid of them at all.  On the contrary,
I think it lets people have more control over their spins, allows them
to refresh them as they see fit throughout the release, and allows
them to market and promote them beyond a token mention on a Fedora
website.

Some care is needed, if there are things getting packaged to fill a
role in a spin they may disappear from Fedora if the spin in question
does.

On one hand, I am impressed by many spins as an excellent technology
demonstration. On the other hand, what should existing users of a base
Fedora do if they find an useful spin with a superior functionality? If its
function is not integrated and easily accessible from the base system,  they
must either dual-boot or re-install  from the spin.

Therefore I prefer that the spins ultimate goal is to include the
functionality into generic Fedora. The same goes for  other bundling schemes
discussed here.  It's not that I object to  them per se, but I do think that
there's an opportunity cost involved: the person caring about the spin has
to chose between working on integrating the spin functionality in generic
Fedora, and developing the spin separately. I do recognize that the former
is harder, but the opposite tack has a potential to fragment Fedora. Spins
should be like branches in a VCS: let's not turn them into forks.

I think the strength of Fedora comes from it being an excellent platform for
all kinds of FOSS software, and the associated network effect---the better
the platform is, the faster it gets better.


Spins is a loaded term in Fedora that means exactly what you
suggest.  An approved Spin, by definition, must only include packages
(and functionality) that is contained in the generic Fedora
repositories.  So the project seems to very much agree with you.

Remixes can contain external packages and have the pluses and minuses
that you highlight.  Some of the discussion to date has been
suggesting or implying that Spins become Remixes, but I think that
things that are already Spins would likely retain the qualities you
desire.  The discussion has a lot of tribal knowledge behind it, so if
you aren't overly familiar with the history behind these concepts I
can see how it would be confusing.


Indeed what Przemek Klosowski described (forking fedora) is what
making all spins remixes might do. Concrete example:  real-time audio.
If left to its own devices a music production spin would probably do a
realtime kernel and set priorites for jack on its own. However since
whatever change was made had to apply to all fedora the result was
that the default RT priority for jack was changed in the package (a
realtime kernel not being necessarily required
http://jackaudio.org/realtime_vs_realtime_kernel), so all Fedora JACK
users get a better chosen default (though they still need to make
manual changes to groups to benefit from it).



I can certainly see the benefits of forking in the domain of audio.

However I would also be a little concerned that maintainers of said 
spins, might just stop bothering to package new audio software in 
upstream Fedora repositories at all. If they are going to the trouble of 
of hosting there spins, I can't see why they wouldn't just host there 
own packages as well (with custom compiler flags and whatever).


I'd worry that this is going to result in a poorer quality audio 
experience in Fedora (for example have those nice arch guys come along 
and provide patches to audio software that doesn't build). Who's going 
to do that on 3rd party repos?







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Re: Disabling ABRT?

2013-12-29 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/28/2013 10:48 PM, Richard Fearn wrote:

Hi,

On 28 December 2013 21:29, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm doing some development at the moment and I want the coredumps to be
dropped somewhere sane (like the executing directory). How do I do it?


I think you want to do:

$ sudo systemctl stop abrt-ccpp

Before:

$ cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
|/usr/libexec/abrt-hook-ccpp %s %c %p %u %g %t e

i.e. send core dumps to abrt.

After:

$ cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
core
$ cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_uses_pid
1

i.e. write core dumps to files named core.xxx.

Regards,

Rich

Thanks. I had tried this but still no core in the executing directory. 
Now I'm not sure where they are going - certainly nowhere in $HOME.


Its a difficult program to debug (an audio plugin kicked off by a host 
program) but I seem to have fixed the problem so it's no longer 
gracelessly crashing.

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Re: Disabling ABRT?

2013-12-29 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/29/2013 05:37 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:17:49 +0100, Richard Fearn wrote:

On 29 December 2013 11:29, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks. I had tried this but still no core in the executing directory. Now
I'm not sure where they are going - certainly nowhere in $HOME.


Could be a couple of things:

1. The core dump limit for the process could be 0 (i.e. don't write core dumps).

2. The core dumps are written to the cwd of the process at the point
where it dies - not necessarily where you run it from. (If you know
the PID you could check /proc/pid/cwd.)


That is ABRT running/not-running should not have any effect on the normal
'ulimit -c' behavior.  It was filed for ABRT and fixed in 2009:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530637

If stopping/starting ABRT changes anything - that is ABRT behavior is not
fully transparent - it is a new ABRT bug.


Jan


Yup. Thanks guys. ulimit -c was 0

ulimit -c unlimited

Fixes my problem. Cores created in the cwd. I would have thought that 
this should be enabled by default in /etc/security/limits.conf in the 
absence of abrt.

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Disabling ABRT?

2013-12-28 Thread Brendan Jones
I'm doing some development at the moment and I want the coredumps to be 
dropped somewhere sane (like the executing directory). How do I do it?


Cheers
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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-12 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/11/2013 11:00 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Brendan Jones wrote:

What is the best way to handle this case:

qWarning(QObject::tr(Client name '%1' occupied.).arg(name).toUtf8());

something like, or can I make it simpler:

qWarning(%s,qPrintable(QObject::tr(Client name '%1'
occupied.).arg(name).toUtf8()));


Use one of:
qWarning()  QObject::tr(Client name '%1' occupied.).arg(name);
or:
qWarning(%s, QObject::tr(Client name '%1'
occupied.).arg(name).toLocal8Bit().data());

Note that hardcoding toUtf8() is also a bad idea here, the right encoding to
use is toLocal8Bit(), or this will print junk in non-UTF-8 locales. (In our
default UTF-8 locales, it will make no difference.)

 Kevin Kofler



Thanks!
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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-10 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/06/2013 08:11 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Adam Jackson wrote:


On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 02:21 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:


 QString line;
 line.fill( '-', 60 );
 qDebug( line.ascii() );
As you can see, the format string being passed here is provably constant.


So fix the compiler.


I don't think GCC will ever be able to prove that it is a constant. It would
at least have to do intermodule inlining on the linked qstring.o to do that,
which means qt3 would have to use the LTO support. Even then, I wouldn't
count on it. Plus, if this construct were found in application code rather
than in qt3 itself, GCC would even have to do the intermodule inlining on
libqt-mt, which would also have negative consequences on binary
compatibility.

But knowing the contract of QString (Qt 3's in this case, but it's the same
in Qt 4 and Qt 5), it's trivial for a human to prove it.

 Kevin Kofler


What is the best way to handle this case:

qWarning(QObject::tr(Client name '%1' occupied.).arg(name).toUtf8());

something like, or can I make it simpler:

qWarning(%s,qPrintable(QObject::tr(Client name '%1' 
occupied.).arg(name).toUtf8()));


regards

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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-06 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/06/2013 11:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 10:37 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:43 PM, Jan Lieskovsky wrote:


From: Ralf Corsepius



Would you mind to explain why you guys are putting such an emphasize on
-Wformat-security?


Some possible ways how to look at it:
* because when all reported packages are patched, it would remove one
whole class of security flaws,


Iff the tools being utilized were reliable and if the findings are fixed
by skilled people, who really understand what they are doing.
Both does NOT APPLY in Fedora. Fedora/RH's GCC produces false diagnoses
and the average Fedora packager is not an experienced C-developer.


The intent is not for Fedora packagers to patch problems downstream, it
is for them to report bugs upstream and have the problems fixed there.

What world are you living in? gcc fixes have always been fixed in Fedora 
first.

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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-06 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/06/2013 12:25 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:

On 12/06/2013 11:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 10:37 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

On 12/05/2013 07:43 PM, Jan Lieskovsky wrote:


From: Ralf Corsepius



Would you mind to explain why you guys are putting such an
emphasize on
-Wformat-security?


Some possible ways how to look at it:
* because when all reported packages are patched, it would remove one
whole class of security flaws,


Iff the tools being utilized were reliable and if the findings are fixed
by skilled people, who really understand what they are doing.
Both does NOT APPLY in Fedora. Fedora/RH's GCC produces false diagnoses
and the average Fedora packager is not an experienced C-developer.


The intent is not for Fedora packagers to patch problems downstream, it
is for them to report bugs upstream and have the problems fixed there.


What world are you living in? gcc fixes have always been fixed in Fedora
first.
Please ignore all my replies in this thread. I am just busy and annoyed. 
This came at the wrong time.

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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-06 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/06/2013 12:59 PM, Dhiru Kholia wrote:

On 12/04/13 at 07:10pm, Brendan Jones wrote:

This is just a pain. Can someone explain to me why this is good?

 Original Message 
Subject: [Bug 1037125] hydrogen FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1037125


Hi Brendan,

Can you *really* pass a QByteArray object directly to printf (and similar
functions)?

I have attached a patch to fix this FTBFS bug. I can't say if the fix is
right (I don't know the code in question). Please give it a thought.

...

I had originally planned on submitting patches too but I got caught up
in a new project of mine.

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Point taken. 10 FTBS's just makes my brain explode.
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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-05 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/05/2013 03:25 AM, mrnuke wrote:

On 12/04/2013 12:10 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:


This is just a pain. Can someone explain to me why this is good?


Good or not, this is not the right question to ask.

  * Is this necessarry, and are the benefits worth the pains? *

This change is Sofa King stupid. Why couldn't we have just enabled the
warning without turning it into an error, THEN let packagers work with
upstream in fixing those warnings? Regulate, not ban.

Alex

Agree. Failing on this warning IS stupid. We are trying to exclude 
developers from Fedora? Trivial to fix sure, but surely there is better 
use of our time. I would much rather spend time on fixing real bugs with 
upstream than this

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FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-04 Thread Brendan Jones


This is just a pain. Can someone explain to me why this is good?

 Original Message 
Subject: [Bug 1037125] hydrogen FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag 
is used

Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 11:33:47 +
From: bugzi...@redhat.com
To: brendan.jones...@gmail.com

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1037125

Dhiru Kholia dkho...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||1038083




Referenced Bugs:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038083
[Bug 1038083] tracker bug for -Werror=format-security change
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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/04/2013 07:29 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:

On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 07:10:39PM +0100, Brendan Jones wrote:


This is just a pain. Can someone explain to me why this is good?


If you read the bug description you'll see the link which
answers your question.

   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Format-Security-FAQ

Daniel


I'm sorry, but I can't see why any of my packages (10+) are at risk
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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/04/2013 07:59 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:


I'm sorry, but I can't see why any of my packages (10+) are at risk


This is just a best practice to mitigate any risks that might exist just
like any of the other security improvements we make from time to time.
Even if you don't see any immediate benefits,  there is no harm in
following the appropriate guidelines here.  Coordinate with upstream

Rahul



Overkill if you ask me,

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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/04/2013 09:39 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:


Overkill if you ask me,


It might be appear to be one till it ends up avoiding or mitigating a
security issue.  It is just a bunch of trivial changes and I am sure you
can ask for help for patches if needed.
Rahul


Patching is not a problem. Unnecessary is the question. Explain to me 
(not you in particular Rahul) how these printf's can possibly be exploited?

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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/05/2013 12:11 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote:

On 12/04/2013 04:56 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:

Patching is not a problem. Unnecessary is the question. Explain to me
(not you in particular Rahul) how these printf's can possibly be exploited?


   char *output;

   output = get_user_input(...);
   printf(output);

What happens when the user enters %n?

I remain unconvinced. Exploit my system with one of ams, aubio, 
hydrogen, jack-keyboard, phasex, portmidi or yoshimi.


I just can't see it
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Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/05/2013 12:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Brendan Jones
brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:

On 12/05/2013 12:11 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote:


On 12/04/2013 04:56 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:


Patching is not a problem. Unnecessary is the question. Explain to me
(not you in particular Rahul) how these printf's can possibly be
exploited?



char *output;

output = get_user_input(...);
printf(output);

What happens when the user enters %n?


I remain unconvinced. Exploit my system with one of ams, aubio, hydrogen,
jack-keyboard, phasex, portmidi or yoshimi.

I just can't see it


Suppose I create a malicious drumkit and either get it uploaded to one
of the officially recommended links at
http://www.hydrogen-music.org/hcms/node/16 , or even just attach it in
bugzilla to a bug report saying that the Fedora hydrogen package
crashes or otherwise mishandles that file (causing _you_ personally to
open that file, even if in a debugger)?

Note that I _don't really know_ whether this is exploitable with
hydrogen; though the incorrect format strings being in a class named
Object does suggest that the affected input paths may be pretty
widespread.

Probably a bad example. I guess its another case of educating upstream. 
They love that


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Re: hardlink command

2013-11-10 Thread Brendan Jones

On 11/10/2013 09:07 PM, Sergio Belkin wrote:

hardlink   -n -v -v


I would look at the modification datetime.

studiodesktop:/tmp $ echo test  test1
(wait at least a second)
studiodesktop:/tmp $ echo test  test2
studiodesktop:/tmp $ hardlink   -n -v -v tes*


Directories 0
Objects 2
IFREG 2
Comparisons 0
Would link 0
Would save 0
studiodesktop:/tmp $ cp -rp test1 test2
studiodesktop:/tmp $ hardlink   -n -v -v tes*
Would link test1 to test2, would save 5


Directories 0
Objects 2
IFREG 2
Comparisons 1
Would link 1
Would save 4096

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Re: Review swap

2013-10-25 Thread Brendan Jones

On 10/25/2013 04:12 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 07:40:59AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:34:23AM -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

I have a package review (BZ#1022584:Review Request: qpid-qmf - The QPID
Management Framework). I pulled the subpackages from qpid-cpp relating
to QMF so they can built completely separate from Qpid.

I'll take this one.

I'm looking for reviewers for

Bug 1016677 - Review Request: mathjax - JavaScript library to render math in 
the browser
Bug 1021164 - Review Request: general-purpose-preprocessor - Customizable 
language-agnostic preprocessor


Danga, you and Brandon beat me to the punch for swapping reviews!


Sorry, Darryl. Didn't mean to hijack your request!
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Re: Review swap

2013-10-23 Thread Brendan Jones

On 10/24/2013 07:40 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:34:23AM -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

I have a package review (BZ#1022584:Review Request: qpid-qmf - The QPID
Management Framework). I pulled the subpackages from qpid-cpp relating
to QMF so they can built completely separate from Qpid.

I'll take this one.

I'm looking for reviewers for

Bug 1016677 - Review Request: mathjax - JavaScript library to render math in 
the browser
Bug 1021164 - Review Request: general-purpose-preprocessor - Customizable 
language-agnostic preprocessor

Zbyszek




I'll take these for:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006187
and
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1015958

thanks

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Re: The final push for the application installer in Fedora 20

2013-09-30 Thread Brendan Jones

On 09/27/2013 12:24 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:

In GNOME Software, we show a list of applications for each category
that we think are frikin’ awesome. Some have AppData[1], and some
don’t. For the ones that don’t yet have AppData it leaves the
responsibility of writing the long description to the Linux community,
where we can push the data back to upstream so that all the
distributions can benefit. So far we’ve had a superb reaction from
lots of upstream projects and a lot of descriptions have been merged.

For Fedora 20 we want all the awesome apps to have AppData, so users
can evaluate the application before installing it. It would add a
really nice bit of polish to the whole experience. If you can spare 5
minutes and want to help.

I’ve got another shared document that just needs a few details for
each application:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtzJKpbiGX1zdElaYUoxcXRxeVRVS05Femg4Zzk2NWc#gid=0

The list of awesome-but-unloved apps is: audacity, ardour2,
gnome-banshee, rosegarden, sound-juicer, doom, openarena, xonotic,
tremulous, btanks, frozen-bubble, quadrapassel, neverball, gnomine,
wesnoth, supertuxkart, redeclipse, lyx, gparted, virt-manager,
eclipse, gitg, monodevelop, blender, shotwell, octave, saoimage,
workrave, celestia, polari, pidgin, chromium, pitivi, vlc and
openshot.



I've submitted a patch for rosegarden submitted upstream.

regards,

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Re: The final push for the application installer in Fedora 20

2013-09-30 Thread Brendan Jones

On 09/30/2013 08:42 AM, tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote:

vlc is not part of fedora, cause of patent related stuff, not a legal
expert, but I dont think fedora cant contain somethng there links to
these kind of applications

If you create a new kind of application metadata, would it not be a good
idea to start using the information we allready have in the .spec files
and build from that
instead of starting from scratch, it is better than no information at all

Tim


The following query will build a template (it assumes the package name 
is the same as the desktop file name).


#!/bin/bash
echo `rpmquery $1 --qf ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?\
applicationid type=desktop$1.desktop/id\
licenceCC0/licencename$1/namesummary%{SUMMARY}/summary\
description%{DESCRIPTION}/description\
url type=homepage%{URL}/url\
screenshotsscreenshot type=default width=800 
height=600/screenshot\

/screenshots/application`

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Review swaps

2013-09-14 Thread Brendan Jones

Hey all,

some more lv2 audio plugins up for review:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006187

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1004231

thank you

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Re: Review swaps: xfoil, xrotor, avl

2013-09-12 Thread Brendan Jones

On 09/12/2013 09:36 PM, Sandro Mani wrote:



Okay.
So I'll take those newly updated: avl and xrotor.




Thanks Antonio, let me know if I can review anything in exchange. Btw,
you will notice that they are all very similar, so if you manage those
two, xfoil should be just as easy ;)

Sandro

I can take it now for:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1003768

Let me know.

cheers

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Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

2013-07-27 Thread Brendan Jones

snip


On the other hand some projects might benefit from stable Ring0, 1, which
wouldn't change unexpectedly.

No one said that stuff should change unexpectedly (and that's not
what currently happens either).


Beg to differ. There are lots of asynchronous dep changes (typically
version upgrades) in the current monolithic ring of Fedora that can wreak
havoc in dependent projects. At least in the Java space.


Actually its the opposite you want to consider the whole picture
when doing changes and not think
of independent pieces stuck together.


The whole picture is *really* big and often internally has competing
interests.
I can envision oversight and policy implementation in the Ring/SIG model
however.


That's why the lets build some
core platform and put stuff on top
of it is flawed.


I'm sorry but I can't agree that software layering is somehow inherently
flawed.


It's not flawed by design, but it's flawed by implementations. At least in the Java 
stack (you mentioned) as is currently this is entirely impossible. The Java stack is all or 
nothing - e.g. let's assume that ant is part of the ring1 as critical build infrastructure, 
but it depends on apache-commons-*, which build via maven, which depends on many (just to list a 
few - jetty, tomcat, plexus, aether, sisu), plexus brings jdt.core , aether brings tycho, tycho 
depends on eclipse platform and few other plugins, eclipse itself has a number of dependencies and 
so on so on. In short all or nothing :).
I would love to see things layered but unless someone throws in enormous 
resources to cut all the circular dependencies this can't happen.

Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team
Is it even feasible to use the Fedora Java/JBOSS stack unless you are an 
existing customer? I gave up on Fedora java packages a long time ago. 
That's not to say Fedora is bad in this respect, but more that you can't 
please everyone

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Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

2013-07-27 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/23/2013 08:38 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:

I've found it very hard to find the right place to jump into this
discussion.

So, I'll just put out some of my own thoughts about what I want to see
out of Fedora, and then point out how I think this matches or contrasts
with Matts proposal.

Fedora should be an *OS*. Here are some of the qualities that I
associated with that term:

- It has a clearly defined boundary, with stable APIs. Some things are
not going to be part of the OS, even though they are part of the Fedora
universe: for example, applications. Stable is important; if you can't
upgrade from version x to version x+1 and keep installed applications
working, it is not an OS, imo. And it will never be attractive to
anybody outside the Fedora packager community to do something with
Fedora or build something on it, if there is no assurance that it
continue working beyond the 6 month (or 13 month) horizon of the Fedora
schedule.

- The purpose of the OS is to run applications. So, it needs to be
provide a way to install, update and run applications. We obviously
support this now, in a way. But we need to get a lot better (see the
AppInstaller proposal). The big is that many apps are simply not
available on Fedora, because packaging is not something that is
interesting for many people, and mostly a wasted effort from the
perspective of the app developer (see the previous point).

- There need to be defined extension points for how you add new stuff to
it that does not fit int the 'application' category. Things like codecs,
translations, fonts, runtime environments.

- It should provide a defined (or designed) user experience. It can of
course provide more than one, depending on the context it is used in:
client, server, cloud, etc. Also worth mentioning here is the runtime vs
devel split. Ideally, there will also be a defined experience for
developers, an SDK if you will.

Thats enough blue sky vision for now. How does this match up with Matt's
proposal ?

The 'Base OS / ring 0 + 1' in the proposal could possibly match my idea
of an OS as having clearly defined boundaries (core + standard is pretty
clear as to whats in and whats out), but as far as API is concerned, it
seems a little weak - I would expect most of the system services that we
are relying on to be part of the core that needs to have a stable API:
policykit, pam, logind, udisks, sssd, realmd, etc. Many of these
probably get pulled in via dependencies. It would be better to list them
explicitly, imo. There is a tension between defining a complete enough
API, and going for a minimal platform that can accomodate the needs of
e.g. cloud images.


The question we should be asking is how Fedora being used in the wild? I 
am also hesitant to lax standards and to even consider bundled libs. If 
someone has a use case for it they will do it anyway. Packaging software 
in /opt is an alternative.
Being a developer it happens to me time and time again and is always 
dependant on the client. What I love about Fedora is that it forces me 
to consider latest developments whereas a client may not.

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Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

2013-07-27 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/27/2013 12:36 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:

Le samedi 27 juillet 2013 à 11:31 +0200, Brendan Jones a écrit :


Is it even feasible to use the Fedora Java/JBOSS stack unless you are an
existing customer?


There is no customer for Fedora, so I am not sure to fully follow you.

And last time I tested, ovirt was working on fedora, so jboss do work.

Sorry if I was unclear. I pretty much never use fedora java packages 
when working on a solution for a client. I'd be glad to hear if it is 
easier these days.

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Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-26 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/26/2013 01:47 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:


[1] Onsen, in Berlin-Friedrichshain (recommended)


Hmmm I must try it. Hard to find real Japanese in this city.
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Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-26 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/25/2013 10:36 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:

- Original Message -

On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 17:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:

On Thu, 25.07.13 14:39, Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) wrote:


Partially accepted Changes
* No Default Sendmail -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail -
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185328.html

Sendmail will be removed from @core. Removal of sendmail from @standard
didn't
pass. Note: About @standard group might be decided in next release of
Fedora.

* No Default Syslog -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
discussed on
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185329.html

Remove rsyslog from @core, move to @standard pending revaluation in
future.


Note that this is not the decision I was interested in. I will hence not
work on the implemetation of either of these features. Unless Matthew
takes them over alone I will will mark these feature pages as obsolete
as they didn't get agreed on.


Taking rsyslog out of @core is a one-line commit to comps which someone
could do in 30 seconds. It hardly needs 'working on'.


Given the amount of time that he spent on the mailing-list fighting for those 
features, then it looks like a waste of time, that work has been done.

Thankfully, it's been removed from the default Desktop spin.
It all becomes moot when a FESCO decision can be completely ignored. My 
own opinions aside (I have a sendmail requirement but would not force it 
on anyone).


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Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

2013-07-25 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/25/2013 12:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 16:50 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:

On 07/24/2013 04:40 PM, inode0 wrote:

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com wrote:
The entire budget is not public so you won't get a definitive answer
for a large portion of the budget.


Why is it not public any reason why we the community cannot know how
much we cost?


I don't think there's any particular reason, but one thing is that it's
not particularly obvious even within Red Hat: there isn't a single nice
clear Fedora Budget, money gets spent on Fedora out of all sorts of
other budgets. It may well be the case that *Red Hat* does not know
precisely how much money Red Hat spends on Fedora. :)

I contribute regularly to opensource projects (monetarily) with no 
issue. While I take JBG's anti-RH implications with a grain of salt, he 
has highlighted a lacking there. It *should* be easier to contribute, 
although I cannot see this happening if Fedora is a legal entity resides 
state-side.


To clarify, I think RH is an awesome sponsor, and the resources they 
provide do separate us from other distros, and for that I am grateful, 
BUT there needs to be another way to contribute

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Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

2013-07-24 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/24/2013 03:50 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:

Earlier this evening I was asked how I expected Fedora to function in
any way similarly to how it does now without the backing of one or more
organizations like Red Hat.

I gave the quick answer  through donations since I was not in mood to
give the detailed answers ( and taint that thread even further ) however
I'm about do it here to certain extent since the questioner probably did
not expect me to have actually given this any thought which I actually
have although I have not chiselled it into stone, making it the concrete
proposal the community demands since it's just a small fraction of a
larger idea or rather vision I have but I have decide it be the correct
time to share that part of that vision of mine with the rest of the
community to gather feedback.

Under the current model I thought it is not possible to make monetary 
donations to Fedora (I remember Jared Smith saying something about this 
at a linuxconf.au a while back) Hardware, physical items, consumable 
media etc is OK though. Something to do with US taxes, correct me if I'm 
wrong.


Brendan



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Re: LXDE and Razor-qt

2013-07-24 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/24/2013 04:53 AM, Christopher Meng wrote:

Hi list,

FYI, as this link[1] announced, 2 desktops have been merged into one.

Razor-qt just got in Fedora in April, what shall we do next?
Early days yet (nothing has been released as yet?), but I imagine it 
will be up to the current razorqt maintainer(s) to coordinate.


Good news all in all I think.

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Re: yum groupinstall development-tools FAILS

2013-06-28 Thread Brendan Jones

On 06/28/2013 03:32 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

People,

This command:

   yum groupinstall development-tools

fails with these errors:

Transaction Check Error:
   file /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-devel-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-devel-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-devel-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-runtime-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-runtime-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-runtime-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-client-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-client-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-client-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64
   file /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/systemtap.mo from install of
systemtap-2.2.1-1.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
systemtap-sdt-devel-2.1-2.fc18.x86_64

Are there workarounds or fixes?

Thanks,

Phil.


There's this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=915247

You could --exclude=systemtap-sdt-devel* to get past it if you don't 
need this package.



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Re: audacity

2013-04-29 Thread Brendan Jones

On 04/30/2013 03:07 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote:

On Dom, 2013-04-28 at 07:09 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote:

For F18, it appears that the Audacity mp3 build is broken - it won't
install - and mp3 support is rather important to me; is it possible to
get this particular build working?


What do you mean with Audacity mp3 build is broken ,
rpmfusion build are working , I think.
At least is working
Installed Packages
audacious.x86_643.3.4-2.fc18   @updates
audacious-devel.x86_64  3.3.4-2.fc18   @updates
audacious-libs.x86_64   3.3.4-2.fc18   @updates
audacious-plugin-fc.x86_64  0.6-19.fc18installed
audacious-plugin-xmp.x86_64 3.4.0-12.fc18  installed
audacious-plugins.x86_643.3.4-2.fc18   @updates
audacious-plugins-amidi.x86_64  3.3.4-2.fc18   @updates
audacious-plugins-freeworld.x86_64  3.3.4-1.fc18   
@rpmfusion-free-updates-testing
audacious-plugins-freeworld-aac.x86_64  3.3.4-1.fc18   
@rpmfusion-free-updates-testing
audacious-plugins-freeworld-ffaudio.x86_64  3.3.4-1.fc18   
@rpmfusion-free-updates-testing
audacious-plugins-freeworld-mms.x86_64  3.3.4-1.fc18   
@rpmfusion-free-updates-testing
audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3.x86_64  3.3.4-1.fc18   
@rpmfusion-free-updates-testing
audacious-plugins-jack.x86_64   3.3.4-2.fc18   @updates


Thats audacious rather than audacity
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Re: audacity

2013-04-29 Thread Brendan Jones

On 04/29/2013 08:39 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:

I just packaged soxr... Anyone willing to review if I submit a review
request?

Thanks,
Richard



Sure.
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Re: Rewiew swaps: 4 packages

2013-04-21 Thread Brendan Jones

On 04/21/2013 01:43 PM, Eugene Pivnev wrote:

Still looking for 3 review swaps:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=947049 - qxkb (keyboard
switcher; trivial review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=952632 - qtermwidget
(terminal widget; trivial review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=953101 - RazorQt (new fast
gtk- and kdelibs-independent DE)

All of them are qt-based and C++.


I'll take these. I'll let you know when I have something to review.

regards,

Brendan

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Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-14 Thread Brendan Jones

On 02/14/2013 04:26 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 21:21:41 -0500,
   Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote:


If the esound or pulseaudio plugins are problematic, let us retire
them. I don't think xmms will be used by other people than us fanboys,
and I feel that we are fine with the ALSA output.

Anyhow it looks like spot was kind enough to pick it up, so no worries :)


I was still planning on retiring xmms. It has no upstream support. The
volume control has issues that I don't have time to figure out.


esound can be disabled at build time - please do not retire it just yet. 
I can take it on if need be.


Orcan, can you confirm that it still works? This is not working for me here.
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4971729


--- xmms.spec   2013-02-14 11:40:18.021243517 +0100
+++ /home/bsjones/rpmbuild/SPECS/xmms.spec	2013-02-14 11:39:42.377244852 
+0100

@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   xmms
 Version:1.2.11
-Release:17.20071117cvs%{?dist}
+Release:18.20071117cvs%{?dist}
 Epoch:  1
 Summary:The X MultiMedia System, a media player

@@ -70,14 +70,6 @@ Group:  System Environment/Libra
 %descriptionlibs
 The X MultiMedia System player engine and core plugins.

-%packageesd
-Summary:EsounD output plugin for XMMS
-Group:  System Environment/Libraries
-Requires:   %{name}-libs = %{epoch}:%{version}-%{release}
-
-%descriptionesd
-EsounD output plugin for the X MultiMedia System.
-
 %packagedevel
 Summary:Files required for XMMS plug-in development
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -130,7 +122,8 @@ done
 --enable-texthack \
 --enable-ipv6 \
 --with-pic \
---disable-static
+--disable-static \
+--disable-esd
 # causes problems with dso linking
 #find . -name Makefile | xargs sed -i -e s/-lpthread//g # old libtool, 
x86_64

 make
@@ -212,10 +205,6 @@ update-desktop-database /dev/null || :
 %{_libdir}/xmms/Output/libdisk_writer.so
 %{_libdir}/xmms/Visualization/

-%files esd
-%defattr(-,root,root,-)
-%{_libdir}/xmms/Output/libesdout.so
-
 %files devel
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)
 %{_bindir}/xmms-config
@@ -226,6 +215,9 @@ update-desktop-database /dev/null || :


 %changelog
+* Thu Feb 14 2013 Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com 
1.2.11-18.20071117cvs

+- Disable esound plugin
+
 * Sun Jul 22 2012 Fedora Release Engineering 
rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 1:1.2.11-17.20071117cvs

 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Mass_Rebuild






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Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-14 Thread Brendan Jones

On 02/14/2013 06:16 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:

On Thu, 14.02.13 03:26, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote:


Not knowing too much about CK itself but out of concern for anyone
that uses CK (including myself) I will be happy to take over
ConsoleKit as the package maintainer for F19 if it means keeping it in
for 1 more release to maintain compatibility.


That's the spirit! I don't know too much about it, but I want to
maintain it...


Your arrogance never ceases to amaze.


But anyway, if that is indeed your wish, then I can hand it over. But
please, don't let this stuff bitrot forever. That would help nobody. If
you want to take care of it, fine, but please make sure the remaining
packages using it get their stuff updated and fixed...


I'm sure the new maintainer can handle the dependencies

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Re: [soundtracker/f18] (2 commits) ...Correct desktop file install error

2013-02-11 Thread Brendan Jones

On 02/11/2013 10:16 AM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote:

Brendan Jones wrote, at 02/11/2013 05:22 PM +9:00:

Summary of changes:

   faf3146... Remove vendor from desktop file (*)
   330426b... Correct desktop file install error (*)

(*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent


No, removing vendor prefix from desktop file must only on F-19,
not on stable release (on F-18, F-17). Please revert this,
thank you.

Regards,
Mamoru



Why is that, it can't hurt can it? I didn't think the vendor was in use 
at all.

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Re: review swap: rubygems related packages

2013-01-31 Thread Brendan Jones

On 01/31/2013 01:32 PM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote:

Hello, all:

I have some packages related to rubygems ready for review
and I would like to swap reviews. Each package is small and
should not take so much time.

rubygem-levenshtein
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891970
rubygem-gobject-introspection
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=892163
rubygem-net-http-digest_auth
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=892313
rubygem-unf_ext
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=892314
rubygem-webrobots
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=892315
rubygem-unf - depends on rubygem-unf_ext
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=904639
rubygem-domain_name - depends on ruby-unf, so also depends on rubygem-unf_ext
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=904640
rubygem-ruby-ntlm
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=904707

Regards,
Mamoru


I also have a number up for review. I am familiar with ruby, so pick 
from this list. The weekend is out for me, so will action most on Monday 
if that is OK.


http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/177115.html


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Re: Releasing ownership

2013-01-29 Thread Brendan Jones

On 01/29/2013 07:59 AM, lakshminaras2...@gmail.com wrote:

I am releasing ownership of the following packages due to lack of time
gnome-guitar -- A small suite of applications for the guitarist


I have taken this one.

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Audio plugins / utilities up for review swap

2013-01-27 Thread Brendan Jones

Hi all,

I have the following outstanding packages ready to be reviewed. All are 
small and shouldn't be too taxing.


radium-compressor - A Qt compressor with an intuitive GUI
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=904658

lv2-newtonator - an LV2 synth plugin that uses the physical principles 
of velocity and acceleration

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887769

lv2-fomp-plugins - a colletion of LV2 plugins ported from LADSPA
oscpack - A set of c++ classes
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887750

python-mididings - a MIDI router and processor with python3 support
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866183

regards,

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Re: help

2013-01-19 Thread Brendan Jones

On 01/19/2013 10:23 AM, ABHINAV MISRA wrote:

i am Abhinav , an undergraduate from India
i was going through GSoC 2012 idea list
i want to take  integrate proxy setting and network manager  as my
project for GSoC 2013.
i know C, python and currently learning java and i am most wiling to
learn anything that is required for this project.

I wanted to take up this project in GSoC 2012. The main reason why I
want to do this project is that it takes me hours of effort to get
anything or change anything in Fedora 16 which requires Internet. As I
have a proxy server at my college which requires authentication.
Something like apply system wide option (available in Ubuntu) should be
there in Fedora also.

thanking you ,
Abhinav Misra


Fedora has an ideas page that anyone can contribute to for consideration 
in the next GSOC program. Details here [1].


[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2013


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Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Brendan Jones

On 01/09/2013 01:27 PM, Ian Malone wrote:

On 9 January 2013 12:23, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote:



Down-sides, there'd no longer be a live-cd/dvd as a 'demo' system. You
could only try out the formula on an installed system. It looks though
like people are already suggesting overlaying a formula somehow to
create traditional live images (presumably still with the advantages
of being able to tweak configuration).



P.S. that downside also may translate to more difficult testing and
development. With spin development I've been able to make a live cd
and then run it live or run it live/install it within a VM. With a
formula you have to have an already-installed image in a VM and then
make the formula available for install within it. (Advantage though,
compiling a formula *must* be quicker than rebuilding a live image.)

Agreed to both your downsides. The goal of the spin was to have as much 
configured 'out of the box' in a live environment firstly then as the 
installed user.


I can't see this as being a replacement but perhaps it could be used in 
this context as well (post install).

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Re: Review swap

2013-01-08 Thread Brendan Jones

On 01/08/2013 08:16 PM, Yannick Brosseau wrote:

Hi,

I have one pending package review that I would like to swap:

babeltrace - Trace Viewer and Converter, mainly for the Common Trace
Format (LTTng)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=846488

Thanks,

Yannick


I'll take this if you can take this simple one on:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887756


Thanks


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Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Brendan Jones

On 01/08/2013 09:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

Greetings.

I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with
something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a
fudcon session to brainstorm on this idea and see if it can be beaten
into a plan/schedule/feature, or if it's not going to work for whatever
reason.

I have a very brainstormy/draft wiki page outlining the idea at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_formulas

The short version:

Setup a infrastructure/framework around a collection of ansible
playbooks to allow our users to simply download a formula for what they
want to do and have a curated setup made for them using Fedora
packages.

Want a electionics lab setup? download. review. answer some
questions. click.
Want a LAMP stack? download. review. answer some questions. click.
Want a openstack demo cluster? ditto.
Want a graphics designer workstation? ditto.

Note that this assumes you have already installed Fedora, it's a post
install setup. This would mean that we should continue to do spins for
various desktops as people may way to install their desktop as a base
before adding on formulas.

Of course there's tons of details/questions to work out (many listed on
the wiki page, but I'm sure there are more details too).

So, what do folks think? Workable? Crazy? Crazy enough to work?
:)

kevin

Most spins don't do anything really special apart from install a default 
set of packages. Maybe this is because of the limitations of kickstart, 
I don't know.


Coming from the Fedora Audio spin here's a few things that we would like 
to achieve that we can (mostly) from a kickstart:


 - add default groups for the liveuser and logged in user
 - add extra kernel boot parameters (threadirqs)
 - custom desktop themes, favourites, and desktop settings (turning off 
desktop effects for example)

 - default autostart apps

The main problem we have with kickstarts at the moment is that there is 
no way (according to current packaging guidelines) to alter files owned 
by other packages. In the future we might like to choose different 
pulseaudio modules to load, ALSA config based on hardware etc. I don't 
see how this solution could do this if it were RPM based. If is based as 
some kind of overlay that alters files owned by other packages post 
install then there needs to be an obvious indication that this has 
occurred. I'd expect that whoever writes such a formula would have to 
get sign off from the owner of the package whose files it modifies.


We are working around this by developing an application which the user 
has to run and is prompted to confirm such changes. Such a program could 
be configured to run once at startup I guess. This is a work in progress 
and not in production yet.


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Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Brendan Jones

On 01/09/2013 05:10 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:

On 01/08/2013 09:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

Greetings.

I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with
something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a
fudcon session to brainstorm on this idea and see if it can be beaten
into a plan/schedule/feature, or if it's not going to work for whatever
reason.

I have a very brainstormy/draft wiki page outlining the idea at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_formulas

The short version:

Setup a infrastructure/framework around a collection of ansible
playbooks to allow our users to simply download a formula for what they
want to do and have a curated setup made for them using Fedora
packages.

Want a electionics lab setup? download. review. answer some
questions. click.
Want a LAMP stack? download. review. answer some questions. click.
Want a openstack demo cluster? ditto.
Want a graphics designer workstation? ditto.

Note that this assumes you have already installed Fedora, it's a post
install setup. This would mean that we should continue to do spins for
various desktops as people may way to install their desktop as a base
before adding on formulas.

Of course there's tons of details/questions to work out (many listed on
the wiki page, but I'm sure there are more details too).

So, what do folks think? Workable? Crazy? Crazy enough to work?
:)

kevin


Most spins don't do anything really special apart from install a default
set of packages. Maybe this is because of the limitations of kickstart,
I don't know.

Coming from the Fedora Audio spin here's a few things that we would like
to achieve that we can (mostly) from a kickstart:

  - add default groups for the liveuser and logged in user
  - add extra kernel boot parameters (threadirqs)
  - custom desktop themes, favourites, and desktop settings (turning off
desktop effects for example)
  - default autostart apps

The main problem we have with kickstarts at the moment is that there is
no way (according to current packaging guidelines) to alter files owned
by other packages. In the future we might like to choose different
pulseaudio modules to load, ALSA config based on hardware etc. I don't


This is probably not a good example as we could drop such config files 
in /etc/skel

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Re: pulseaudio maintainership status

2012-12-29 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/28/2012 08:25 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Brendan Jones
brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:

On 12/28/2012 12:33 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:


Steve Clark wrote:


Then why is no one fixing the identified bugs?



Because Lennart insists on backporting only individual fixes to Fedora
releases as opposed to rebasing to a new version, and nobody has the time
to
identify and backport the relevant commits.

IMHO, we should just upgrade PulseAudio to the latest version in an
update.

  Kevin Kofler


I fully agree. The effort it takes too identify fixes is too large. Also,
upstream will not be as amenable in helping us diagnose bugs when we are so
behind.


I don't agree. We're moments from release and the 3.0 release hasn't
been out for that long and it's likely that while it might fix the one
bug it could introduce any number of other bugs.


I know upstream is moving really fast these days, but I thinbk any risk is
alleviated by Rex's backport - we can safely identify any showstoppers
within a fedora release cycle.


There's a working backport patch for a platform that isn't really
supported in Fedora and it works on other virtual platforms without
issue. While I would love to see 3.0 in Fedora 18 due to it's support
for UCM which is used extensively in ARM I'm not even pushing it
because I know it could break more than it might well fix.


1.1 for F17 is way to far behind IMHO given that upstream is now at 3.0.


Why? it works and is relatively stable, there's a lot of change
between 1.1, 2.0, 2.1 and 3.0 which could introduce any number of
other bugs and regressions in a release that is suppose to be stable.


Why? Upstream is now really active - insisting that they support 
software 2 major releases old is a bit much.
If enough people are using rawhide and/or Rex's backport we should be 
able to keep close to upstream without risk. I think restricting 
ourselves to upstream major releases within the Fedora release cycle 
_becomes_ risky when we are so behind.



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Re: pulseaudio maintainership status

2012-12-29 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/28/2012 08:25 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Brendan Jones
brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:

On 12/28/2012 12:33 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:


Steve Clark wrote:


Then why is no one fixing the identified bugs?



Because Lennart insists on backporting only individual fixes to Fedora
releases as opposed to rebasing to a new version, and nobody has the time
to
identify and backport the relevant commits.

IMHO, we should just upgrade PulseAudio to the latest version in an
update.

  Kevin Kofler


I fully agree. The effort it takes too identify fixes is too large. Also,
upstream will not be as amenable in helping us diagnose bugs when we are so
behind.


I don't agree. We're moments from release and the 3.0 release hasn't
been out for that long and it's likely that while it might fix the one
bug it could introduce any number of other bugs.
I'm not suggesting we upgrade F18 now, but I think we should be open to 
the idea post release, and even for F17.


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Re: pulseaudio maintainership status

2012-12-28 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/28/2012 12:33 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Steve Clark wrote:

Then why is no one fixing the identified bugs?


Because Lennart insists on backporting only individual fixes to Fedora
releases as opposed to rebasing to a new version, and nobody has the time to
identify and backport the relevant commits.

IMHO, we should just upgrade PulseAudio to the latest version in an update.

 Kevin Kofler

I fully agree. The effort it takes too identify fixes is too large. 
Also, upstream will not be as amenable in helping us diagnose bugs when 
we are so behind.


I know upstream is moving really fast these days, but I thinbk any risk 
is alleviated by Rex's backport - we can safely identify any 
showstoppers within a fedora release cycle.


1.1 for F17 is way to far behind IMHO given that upstream is now at 3.0.


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Re: pulseaudio maintainership status

2012-12-26 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/25/2012 10:50 AM, Julian Sikorski wrote:

Dear list, Dear Lennart,

a week ago I have submitted a pulseaudio bug alongside with the patch
[1]. There was no response so far.
Knowing that Lennart is busy with systemd these days, I proceeded to
check the pkgdb status of pulseaudio. The only other maintainer with
commit access is lkundrak, who has been declared non-responsive a while
ago himself, plus 3 request pending.
To have such a critical subsystem barely maintained does not seem
sustainable. I have already stepped up to co-maintain pavucontrol and
paprefs, but PA proper is a whole other level. I have joined the waiting
list and am willing communicate the issues between Fedora and upstream,
but someone with an ability to fix bugs on their own would be welcome too.
Lennart, could you please look at the pending ACL requests? Thank you.

Merry Christmas everyone,
Julian

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888422

If you look at the build status you can see pulseaudio is hardly 
unmaintained.


Rex Dieter has also provided a backport of the latest pulseaudio to use 
with early releases. I'm sure he is very amenable to cherry picking 
patches from a later release if it fixes a specific issue people may be 
having.


http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rdieter/pulseaudio-backport/
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Re: Oldest package review resolved

2012-12-18 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/18/2012 01:21 PM, Mario Ceresa wrote:

I deeply admire Lee's perseverance! My oldest was 3 years and I felt
trapped in the Neverending Story :)

Out of curiosity, could you post a link to the oldest one?

Best,

Mario

What is truly amazing is that the submitter was FE-NEEDSPONSOR the whole 
time. Kudos

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Re: Sound issues (Intel HD Audio) -- anyone else see these?

2012-12-05 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/05/2012 10:56 AM, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:

Hello all,

I was just wondering if anyone else is seeing the problems I have on my
laptop with system sounds being very delayed:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882506

Note that F17 on an identical laptop doesn't have these issues, so it
definitely seems to be something F18-ish. The above bug is filed against
pulseaudio, but I realise it could also be alsa or something else ...
suggestions on debugging strategies are very welcome.

We could try and find out if pulseaudio is the culprit by catching your 
logs. You can stop and start pulseaudio by hand:

pulseaudio --kill
pulseaudio --log-level=debug --log-target=file:/tmp/pa.log

Alternatively you could add the same options to 
/usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-kde


Attach the output to the bug. It does sound phonon related.


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Re: Default grou membership for new users

2012-12-05 Thread Brendan Jones

On 12/05/2012 04:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:

I am looking for a way how to add new users to a certain group upon
creation. Do we have such a mechanism?

[...]

/etc/default/useradd only is for useradd and can set a default group,
but no additional default groups.


I was thinking one could extend shadow-utils so that supplementary groups
are read from that file, but the problem is that you don't _really_ want the
group added to every new user, just to actual human users, and figuring that
out (even by something simple like when UID  n) adds a layer of
complication and fiddlyness that's probably not welcome.



The spin owner had a dirty hack that modified
/usr/share/firstboot/modules/create_user.py, but as the spins wrangler I
told him  this is a no-go.


What about dropping a new module for audio configuration into firstboot?


How would this work? (apologies if I don't know enough about firstboot 
here). I was thinking of parsing a simple parameter from the config file.



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Re: review swap: SVNKit

2012-11-25 Thread Brendan Jones

On 11/25/2012 05:37 PM, Ismael Olea wrote:


Anyone interested in a review swaping? Here is mine:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877403

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http://olea.org/diario/


I can take this on for giada - 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866156


cheers

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Re: Problem with jack update

2012-11-18 Thread Brendan Jones

On 11/17/2012 09:42 AM, Ian Malone wrote:

On 17 November 2012 03:09, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Ian Malone  wrote:

On 15 November 2012 23:20, Ian Malone  wrote:

On 15 November 2012 04:40, Orcan Ogetbil  wrote:

Hi all,

A few months ago earlier in the F-17 release cycle, we had a problem
with jackd turning verbose, flooding the stdout, even when its
verbosity was turned off. This was a bug [1] in the compiler,
specifically in the optimized builds, for which we filed a bug against
upstream gcc [2]. As a workaround we rebuilt jack unoptimized, and we
have been using the unoptimized build since.

Late in September the issue got resolved in upstream gcc (see [2]).



[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827748
[2] http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53663
[3] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=362840
[4] http://oget.fedorapeople.org/jack/



Further the test in
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53663#c3
still fails on gcc-4.7.2-8.fc18.x86_64 for me (at -O1).

You weren't running a patched gcc or something?



No, it is the official gcc-4.7.2-2.fc17. You can see tho root.log in
the above link [4] for my buildroot.



One build is -9.1 and the other is -10, jack-realtime-compat.patch
differs between the two. If its a compiler optimisation problem then
the difference in initial variables may be causing a difference in
behaviour? Just random speculation, on the basis that if the build
systems are the same then something else must be the cause. Preferable
to get the gcc fix though.


Hi Ian,

are you getting verbose output in the F18 builds of jack or not?

regards,

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Review swaps for Audio spin

2012-11-07 Thread Brendan Jones


Hi all

I have a number of outstanding reviews that we are hoping to inlcude on 
the audio spin media. All are fairly trivial so shouldn't take too much 
time.


giada - an audio looper for jack
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866156

python-mididings - a MIDI router and processor in python/python3
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866183

drumkv1 - an LV2 / standalone sampler
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=870184

thanks

Brendan


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Re: Review swaps (on the road to scilab 5.4.0): scirenderer

2012-10-29 Thread Brendan Jones

On 10/29/2012 02:18 PM, Clément David wrote:

Hi folks,

Would anyone want to swap reviews? I need scirenderer[1] reviewed in
order to update scilab to the latest (5.4.0) version.

[1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811661

Thanks,


I can take this if you'd like to take on

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=865303
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Review swaps

2012-10-21 Thread Brendan Jones

Hi all

I have a number of outstanding reviews that are available for swap. All 
are fairly trivial so shouldn't take too much time:


ams - ALSA Modular Synth - a port from the CCRMA repo
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866358

giada - an audio looper for jack
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866156

rtaudio - a realtime audio library. Required by giada and chuck
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866154

realTimeConfigQuickScan - an application to assess the realtime audio 
capabilities of a system

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=865303

python-mididings - a MIDI router and processor in python/python3
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866183

thanks

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Re: Help with review

2012-10-16 Thread Brendan Jones

On 10/08/2012 08:44 AM, Gianluca Sforna wrote:

Hi, I have a package sitting in the review queue for a while:

rdkit - A toolkit for cheminformatics and machine learning
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804125

 From a packaging standpoint it's an interesting piece, with different
subpackages including a postgresql cartridge and python bindings.

However, I believe it is fairly good already, so if you can help me
getting it into Fedora I would really appreciate that, and of course
can return the favor with one or more reviews.

Thanks in advance

Gianluca



Hi Gain,

do you still need this reviewed? If so , could you please take 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866358


thanks

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Re: Packages in need of new maintainers

2012-10-03 Thread Brendan Jones

On 10/03/2012 08:23 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote:

As a result of FESCO ticket 952*, Lubomir Rintel's 200+ packages are
in need of new maintainers.  Under normal circumstances we'd simply
orphan them all, but given the large number we want to handle this in
a more orderly fashion.

Please reply to the list with any requests for ownership changes, and
I'll complete them on a first-come, first-served basis.

The current list:



I'm happy to (co)maintain the following. Where's there's a comaintainer 
I'll take it if they don't want ownership:


fop -- XSL-driven print formatter
comaintained by: sparks
ladspa -- Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plug-in API, examples and tools
libsamplerate -- Sample rate conversion library for audio data
comaintained by: jwrdegoede lkundrak (peter?)
meld -- Visual diff and merge tool
comaintained by: cwickert
padevchooser -- Control applet for PulseAudio
pavumeter -- Volume meter for PulseAudio

Username: bsjones
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Re: Non-responsive pytrainer maintainer; anyone interested in the package?

2012-09-18 Thread Brendan Jones

On 09/18/2012 01:59 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:28:07 +0200
Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:


On 09/17/2012 11:18 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:

On 09/05/2012 07:02 PM, Kalev Lember wrote:

The ticket for its non-responsive maintainer Douglas E. Warner is:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=842894


All reasonable attempts to resolve this have failed. Douglas E.
Warner confirmed in
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=842894#c2 that he
currently doesn't have time for Fedora package maintenance.

Can some FESCo member please look over this issue and orphan
pytrainer, and possibly other Douglas E. Warner's packages as well?


I've requested ACL's - if I can't fix it I'll orphan it


I've approved your acls.

kevin




1.9.1 pushed to rawhide,f18,f17

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Re: Non-responsive pytrainer maintainer; anyone interested in the package?

2012-09-17 Thread Brendan Jones

On 09/17/2012 11:18 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:

On 09/05/2012 07:02 PM, Kalev Lember wrote:

The ticket for its non-responsive maintainer Douglas E. Warner is:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=842894


All reasonable attempts to resolve this have failed. Douglas E. Warner
confirmed in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=842894#c2 that
he currently doesn't have time for Fedora package maintenance.

Can some FESCo member please look over this issue and orphan pytrainer,
and possibly other Douglas E. Warner's packages as well?


I've requested ACL's - if I can't fix it I'll orphan it
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Re: [Trade event] Swapping review

2012-09-16 Thread Brendan Jones

On 09/16/2012 08:38 PM, jonathan wrote:

Dear,

Mine review request list grow without get at anytime a review, i am
looking a reviewer to push these packages into fedora. Thanks for your
help:
- Bug 813842 - Review Request: glfw , A cross-platform multimedia
library
- Bug 847794 - Review Request: gl3n An OpenGL Mathematics library for D
- Bug 832953 - Review Request: Syntastic - A syntax checker for
programming language in vim
- Bug 848144 - Review Request: SDL2 A cross-platform multimedia library

If you are interested to swap a review contact me.

Thanks regards


Hi

I'll swap you 813842 for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857730!

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Re: guayadeque package review and bundled libraries

2012-09-15 Thread Brendan Jones

On 09/15/2012 08:00 PM, Martin Gansser wrote:

I am working on a package preview for guayadeque

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853553#c9

Brandon told me that i have to alk the devel list regarding 'bundled libraries'
It seems that the guayadeque sources contains some bundled libraries, wxsqlite 
and wxcurl (wxMD5?).
has the code submitted as a separate package ?

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries


The packaging list is more appropriate, packag...@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Re: Review requests for guayadeque-0.3.6-svn1830

2012-09-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 09/03/2012 01:05 PM, Matthias Runge wrote:



Martin Gansser linux4mar...@web.de schrieb:


Hi all,

I've just packaged guayadeque - A Audio player and organizer.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853553

Descripition : Guayadeque is a music management program designed for
all music enthusiasts.
It is Full Featured Linux media player that can easily manage large
collections and uses
the Gstreamer media framework. More information? http://guayadeque.org

can someone review this package ?

Thanks,
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Martin,
you might want to review other packages, as this normally speeds up the review 
of your own packages.



I can take this on and add to the FedoraAudio tracker. I have a feeling 
of deja-vu here though

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Re: Mate-Desktop

2012-08-24 Thread Brendan Jones

On 08/23/2012 04:53 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:

Rave it wrote:


For your information.
I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project for f18 because


I can understand your frustration, and that you and Dan had trouble
communicating and working together.

I do wish to thank you for the positive contributions you made, and in your
future endeavors.

-- rex


I agree, please do not stop contributing because of one foul-mouthed 
asshole.


The good ones outnumber him grossly!
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Re: Mate-Desktop

2012-08-22 Thread Brendan Jones

On 08/21/2012 11:50 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:

As a reminder, everyone working within the Fedora project is expected to
abide by the code of conduct (http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct).
If there's an interpersonal conflict that can't be resolved by the
individuals or the specific subset of the project involved, please feel
free to raise it with the Community Working Group at
c...@lists.fedoraproject.org, or cwg-priv...@lists.fedoraproject.org if
you'd prefer the discussion to be private.

I understand Dan's fairly new to Fedora - perhaps his sponsor should 
have a word with him.


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Re: building compose, selinux problems

2012-08-14 Thread Brendan Jones

On 08/14/2012 12:45 PM, Ian Malone wrote:

On 14 August 2012 08:49, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote:


Ian, have you go the latest version? There was an missing EOF tag in one 
of the cat statements which could be causing problems.


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Review swap - qtractor-freeworld

2012-07-27 Thread Brendan Jones

Hi all

I have a review request for qtractor-freeworld in rpmfusion. It 
implements a patch that allows the dynamic loading of the libmad MP3 
decoder for qtractor.


https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2414

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Re: Macro L_cuserid missing in /usr/include/stdio.h in F17 ?

2012-07-23 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/23/2012 07:56 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:

#include unistd.h
#include stdio.h
main () {
fprintf (stderr,L_cuserid = %d,L_cuserid);
}

Do you need to add  -D_GNU_SOURCE to your compile line?

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Re: Mass rebuild for Fedora 18 Complete

2012-07-23 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/23/2012 03:47 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:


Please fix any packages you maintain that failed to rebuild.



These are fixed:
- hydrogen
- lash

This one did not have any problems. Just a plain rebuild fixed it:
- clementine

This one seems like a bug in doxygen, rather than a bug in the package:
- slv2 [1]
Apparently doxygen-1.8.1.1 generates a manpage file with a weird filename:
/usr/share/man/man3/_builddir_build_BUILD_slv2-0.6.6_slv2_.3.gz

I also see that the same problem exists in a few other packages, e.g.
sord [2], suil [3]. I imagine there are other ones suffering the same
issue.

Downgrading to doxygen-1.8.0-1.fc18 eliminates the problem. Does
anyone have a solution/workaround for this bug?


Hmmm, it seems to be generating a (new) index file which contains a 
reference to the header file and nothing else. Removing prior to the 
install step seems to be enough an easy enough fix, but there is 
probably a better way that we can send upstream


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Review swap needed for rtirq

2012-07-19 Thread Brendan Jones

Hi all,

this package is required for the forthcoming Fedora audio spin. Would be 
great to get this reviewed before the Spin review.


rtirq - realtime IRQ threading
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=839527

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Re: Review swap needed for rtirq

2012-07-19 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/19/2012 02:50 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:

Hello!

2012/7/19 Patrick Uiterwijk puiterw...@gmail.com:

Hey,

I will take this.


I'm faster than you! :)


Could you take devtodo2 or prey?


I'll take a look.


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Re: prelink should not mess with running executables

2012-07-19 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/20/2012 12:57 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Chris Adams writes:


Once upon a time, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com said:
 If what prelink is doing is perfectly fine, then there's no reason
to have
 the /sbin/telinit hack in /etc/cron.daily, is it? That statement, of
 course,  would be either true or false irrespective of what I'm doing,
 which is  completely irrelevant.

As others have pointed out, that's because init is NOT a standard daemon
(if you don't understand why PID 1 is special, I can't help you).


No, it's not because init is not a standard daemon. prelink did not
single out init for special treatment just because of its special
status. prelink does this to every binary, not just init. It's just that
the results of prelink's frak-up are critical in init's case.

The argument that prelink can only be an issue to daemons that continue
to run past the shutdown system state is, of course, a specious
argument. Just because other daemons get impacted by prelink's frak-up
at other times, other than the system shut down, does not make the
frak-up magically disappear with no side-effects, unfortunately.

You are saying that the special-casing of init in prelink's wrapper is
justified because without it, what prelink ends up doing to init will
result in a crash. But, since there's no crash with anyone else, even
though prelink does the exact same thing, that makes it ok.

Which is, of course, an intellectually-bankrupt position to take.

Either what prelink is doing is damaging and/or improper, or it's not.
If what it does is hunky-dory, and has no ill effects, then there would
be no need whatsoever for any special hacks, for any special
executables, not-withstanding some other standard or special status
they have.


You seem to be putting a lot of weight on the executable somebody ran to
access your program, over and above all the kernel facilities for
handling that (that are sufficient for everybody else, including heavily


The only facilities that I'm aware of, and have been mentioned here, is
inotify. I already said that I find the notion of having to inotify
yourself, in order to mitigate prelink's bull-in-the-china shop behavior
– and only prelink's – to be utterly preposterous.

If inotify's the way to go here, then let's remove prelink's hack for
init, and patch init to inotify itself, then. Sounds good to you?

The inotify proposition reminds of Dan Bernstein's famous suggestion for
distributing the officially blessed, binary-only qmail builds that have
compiled-in userids, in a userid-independent way: if you want to
distribute the officially blessed qmail build without a dependency on
particular numeric uid values of qmail's reserved usernames, just
provide a post-install hook that patches qmail's binaries with the uids
in use on that particular server.

Up to now, I never thought I'd ever come across another proposition
that's just as mind-bending as that one.

Well, looks like I was wrong.


security-minded folk like OpenBSD devs).  Aside from how a pathname is
not really a good indicator (see SELinux vs. AppArmor),


Until someone explains how exec($pathname) results in two completely
different binaries getting started (excepting prelink's brain damage,
and, again, excluding other events that replace the binary, but which
have easy ways to control, and mitigate), it looks like a pretty good
indicator to me; except for, again, the breakage that results from
prelink's unsolicited buggering.


how do you know
the binary hasn't been modified in place?  What good is your
super-special pathname security then?


You are again trying to change the topic. How good or not good it is,
this has no merits on prelink's behavior, and the fact that there's no
way – aside from silly hacks involving inotify – to make prelink do what
it does in a more organized, well-behaved, civilized fashion.

And because you have no answer to that (and because once someone has
root and can overwrite stuff in /usr/bin, all bets are off anyway, which
you also ignore), you must then start attacking the dependency that
brings it out, as a factor, instead of addressing it directly.

There may or may not be an argument about the merits of using a pathname
for authentication. This is fine, and that subject can be debated
elsewhere. But, now you have a situation where prelink's design results
in a binary whose raw content is different, but it's, for all practical
purposes, is the same binary.

But, because of the way that happens, it breaks daemons that rely on
comparing /proc/[pid]/exe, which I assert is a valid mechanism for
making that comparison. Now, that's not the end of the world, of course,
and I found a very obvious way to work around it (without doing stupid
things with inotify) a while ago, but just thought that it was
worthwhile to discuss if what prelink is doing can be improved.

But, apparently, this is impossible. Since it's not possible,

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages for Fedora 18

2012-07-17 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/17/2012 10:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

   gtick -- A graphical metronome software


I have added myself to this package.

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Review swaps

2012-07-16 Thread Brendan Jones
Once again I've a number of small audio packages up for review that I'm 
willing to swap. They are:



rtirq - realtime IRQ threading  
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=839527

Add64 - an additive synthesizer for JACK
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=830664

samplv1 -A polyphonic sampler synthesizer with stereo fx
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=829971

synthv1 - a 4 oscillator subtractive polyphonic synthesizer
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=829970  


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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 18

2012-07-10 Thread Brendan Jones

On 07/10/2012 03:20 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:

On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 16:55 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:


Removing: raptor
 flickcurl requires libraptor.so.1
 flickcurl requires raptor-devel = 1.4.21-11.fc17
 flickcurl-devel requires raptor-devel = 1.4.21-11.fc17
 flickcurl-devel requires pkgconfig(raptor) = 1.4.21
 liblrdf-devel requires raptor-devel = 1.4.21-11.fc17
 librawstudio requires libraptor.so.1
 rawstudio requires libraptor.so.1
 tracker requires raptor-devel = 1.4.21-11.fc17


Tracker currently has a BuildRequires on raptor-devel, but it's actually
an obsolete check, since it dropped the require a couple of years ago.
The BR should just be removed from the spec file in this case.



Similar situation for liblrdf. It was built against raptor2 but the
liblrdf-devel erroneously required raptor-devel.  Now I got this
fixed.

Orcan
Orcan, did you want to take on those that you are co-maintaining? If not 
I'll take them


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zita-resampler license change

2012-07-02 Thread Brendan Jones
This is moving from version 0.1.1 to 1.1.0 with a license change from 
GPLv2+ to GPLV3+


A build will be hitting rawhide soon.

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Re: Releasing ownership of many audio packages (and a little more)

2012-06-05 Thread Brendan Jones

On 06/05/2012 06:53 PM, Anthony Green wrote:
 liblo -- Open Sound Control library
 lv2core -- Audio Plugin Standard
 mxml -- Miniature XML development library
 phasex -- PHASEX -- Phase Harmonic Advanced Synthesis EXperiment
 seq24 -- Real-time midi sequencer

whysynth-dssi -- DSSI software synthesizer plugin

 vkeybd -- Virtual MIDI keyboard

zynaddsubfx -- Real-time software synthesizer




I'll take these, co-maintainers welcome.
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Re: projectM

2012-06-01 Thread Brendan Jones

On 06/01/2012 03:24 PM, Jameson wrote:

Unfortunately, I'm no longer in a position to maintain the projectM
packages (libprojectM, libprojectM-qt, projectM-jack,
projectM-libvisual, and projectM-pulseaudio), so I will need to orphan
these.  If anyone would like to pick these up, feel free to come to me
with questions, or help.

Thanks,
=-Jameson

I'll take these on.

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Re: Will review your package for FOOD!

2012-05-16 Thread Brendan Jones

On 05/15/2012 08:23 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/739016 - erlang-poolboy - A hunky Erlang
worker pool factory
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/821771 - erlang-edown - EDoc extension

 for generating Github-flavored Markdown
 * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/821802 - erlang-erlando - A set of

Hey Peter,
I'll take these two for 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789059 and 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789385


I have some others in the pipeline, so may be able to take more. Stay tuned

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Re: Review swap

2012-04-24 Thread Brendan Jones

On 04/24/2012 02:37 PM, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote:

Hello, I have a pending review request of arm, a utility to monitor the
status of Tor routers. It's almost finished, as Spot has helped me with
this package.
I will take one of yours for this one.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=756445

Thanks!



Sure, if you could take :
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789240

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Re: Fedora 18 Release name voting and Poll for whether to continue naming releases

2012-04-24 Thread Brendan Jones

On 04/20/2012 05:00 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

On 04/19/2012 07:04 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

This cycle, the Board is also asking contributors to let us know if we
should continue to have release names for future Fedora releases. Even
though the interface is the same, this portion is intended to be a poll
rather than a straight up vote. The Fedora Board will look at the answers
to determine if enough contributors value continuing to create release
names
to make it worthwhile in the future. If it does seem desirable, the Board
will likely look into forming a working group to come up with a new
method
for creating release names for future releases.


It would be nice to have a third option:
-Change release names to release theme.

We don't really need a name (IMO), but the theme adds a nice touch.


I fully agree. We need to help the design team out, and trying to tie it 
to the previous release is a bit overbearing in my opinion. What do you 
do with a beefy miracle, there's not much room to move.  Drop the name 
but lets vote on a theme

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Re: Review swaps

2012-04-21 Thread Brendan Jones


Hi,

I'll take the following if you could take:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814924
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814916

Thanks

Brendan

On 04/21/2012 04:14 PM, Mattias Ellert wrote:


One package split:

voms-api-java:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806066

One new package:

jglobus:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=812751

Mattias






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Review (rename) swap

2012-04-20 Thread Brendan Jones

Hi

I've got a package rename that needs reviewing. I've got 4 updates and 2 
new packages that I'd like to build against the renamed package:


If anyone would like to do a review swap:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814542

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Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 04/04/2012 03:31 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:

I, for one, would *love* to find a way for Fedora to be able to accept
funds from outside groups.  I'm not complaining about Red Hat here --
I think they've been a great corporate sponsor of the Fedora Project,
and I don't personally see the need for the Fedora Project to distance
itself from them.  They continue to put a lot of resources (money,
salaried positions, legal support -- and most importantly -- trust) in
Fedora, and I'd never suggest doing anything that might jeopardize
that.  I would like other organizations to be able to donate money to
Fedora too, and in an ideal world we could sell Fedora-branded items
and have a portion of the proceeds directly benefit the project.  I
investigated and pushed for the ability to make this happen while I
was FPL, but the stark reality is that there's no feasible way to do
this at the present time.  The easiest way for outside organizations
to help Fedora is to directly provide support at FUDCons (such as
directly paying for the catering or the internet access), or donating
hardware to the Infrastructure team (and there are certain guidelines
that the Infra team can share with you, if you're interested).  It's
not an ideal situation by any stretch of the imagination, but it's the
situation we live in right now.

--
Jared Smith


Does that mean the only cold hard cash Fedora receives is from Redhat? 
Ie. all travel allownaces etc cmoe from that support?


I was recently asked in an interview what funds we (the current Fedora 
project I'm working on) was looking for. And all I could say was peoples 
time and knowledge :(

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Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 04/04/2012 09:45 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:40 PM, DJ Deloried...@redhat.com  wrote:

So between sponsoring cons, travel, hardware, etc... what can *only*
be done with Red Hat Cash?  Is there anything that an individual
cannot say I'll pay for that (and/or buy that) for you ?


Absolutely.  An individual or organization can say We'll pay for
Joe's travel or We'll pay for lunch on Saturday or We'll pay for
the internet connection or a myriad of other things like that.  They
just need to pay for those things directly -- they can't just hand
Fedora a pile of cash.

Does Fedora exist outside of the US (on the books)? Surely there must be 
a way to dissociate Redhat US sponsorship to an international non-profit 
that represents Fedora?

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Re: Non-free tarball checked in

2012-03-12 Thread Brendan Jones

On 03/12/2012 03:46 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

I checked in a tarball for egoboo that turned out to have a non-free
(noncommercial restriction) font file in it. The tarball has only
been used for local builds (no scratch-builds). Do I need to remove
this tarball from the lookaside cache? If so how do I do it?
The hash is e6f3130695d297dcd9fe74e50bd59b68.


Does that mean any source tarballs containing non-free content should be 
repacked by the maintainer even if the source rpm doesn't install/use 
any of the non-free content? I've been recently commenting on a review 
where this might apply.

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Re: Review swap: Summoning Wars

2012-03-12 Thread Brendan Jones

On 03/12/2012 04:22 PM, Martin Preisler wrote:

Hi,
I would appreciate a review of this hack n slash RPG game. Everything FOSS: 
GPLv3+ code and CC-BY-SA assets. sumwars.org for more info.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801092

I am not a sponsor so I can only swap with you if you already are a Fedora 
packager.

I'd be happy to if you could take 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=784605


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Re: Review swap: logkeys - Linux keylogger

2012-03-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 03/04/2012 02:04 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:

Hey folks,

A package that we'd like to use for fedora videos requires review:

Review Request: logkeys - Linux keylogger [1]
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799701

I'll be happy to review a package in return.



I'll take it if you can pick up 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=784605


thanks

Brendan
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Re: /usrmove? - about the future

2012-02-15 Thread Brendan Jones

On 02/15/2012 10:47 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 14.02.2012 19:16, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:

On 02/14/2012 10:23 AM, Alfredo Ferrari wrote:


Do the systemd maintainers ever read bug reports BTW?


Why do you think otherwise?

Not only read them but fix them as well.

To give you some stats

There are currently 96 Open bugs against systemd and 536 that have been closed 
at the time of this writing...

In F15 which should be the most buggied release since it was the initial 
release into the distribution only has 11
bugs


will systemctl restart ever has working autocompletion for RUNNING services?
it is a littl ebit odd the it does show STOPPED services because
restart makes ususally more sense for running ones...




You could edit /etc/bash_completion.d/systemd-bash-completion.sh to do 
this for you.


Replace the $( __get_all_units | grep ...)) with $( __get_active_units ) )

.
.
.

 elif __contains_word $verb ${VERBS[RESTARTABLE_UNITS]}; then
comps=$( __filter_units_by_property CanStart yes \
  $( __get_all_units | grep -Ev 
'\.(device|snapshot|socket|timer)$' ))

.
.
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Review swaps

2012-02-15 Thread Brendan Jones

Hi all,

still require a few takers required for swaps. Ports from CCRMA and 
latest additions to the new LV2 audio stack. All very small packages


CCRMA
788718 clalsadrv - An ALSA driver C++ library (most of the following
depend on this one)
789255 ebumeter  - Loudness measurement according to
   EBU-R128
789249 jkmeter   - Horizontal or vertical bar-graph audio
   levels meter
789240 freqtweak - Realtime audio frequency spectral
   manipulation
789059 jaaa  - JACK and ALSA Audio Analyzer
789055 japa  - JACK and ALSA Perceptual Analyser
789385 ambdec- an ambiosonics decoder
789390 aeolus- aeolus organ synthesizer

LV2
788717 lv2-ir- An LV2 impulse response reverb plugin
784605 lv2-instance-access
 - An LV2 audio plug-in extension (part of the spec)
783825 suil  - A lightweight C library for loading and wrapping
   LV2 plugin UIs
789386 lilv  - An LV2 Resource Description Framework Library

My packages awaiting review can be found here [1]


cheers

Brendan

[1]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedclassification=Fedoraproduct=Fedoracomponent=Package%20Reviewbug_status=NEWemailreporter1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=brendan.jones.it%40gmail.com
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Fedora Studio

2012-02-11 Thread Brendan Jones

Hi all,

I have a dream ... that one day we will have a Fedora Audio spin. At the 
moment most Fedora audio users rely heavily on the Planet CCRMA 
repository for many of their audio packages. Fernando has has spent 
countless hours maintaining this repository (thanks!) but If any kind of 
Studio/audio spin is going to be realized we need to move the bulk of 
these packages into mainline Fedora.


There is no proposal as yet for this spin, as there is still so much 
work to be done. I would be very surprised if this could be completed by 
F18 - however there are also some really exciting developments in the 
Linux audio world, whose releases should really coincide with this 
effort here (Ardour3/Ingen/SuperCollider).


Below is a list of some of the packages that I've submitted for review 
and would be more than happy to swap - this is just a beginning there 
are many more to come. Maintainers/co-maintainers are more than welcome 
/ actively encouraged.


Also listed are packages pertaining to the new LV2 stack - an exciting 
opensource audio framework that is proving to be a shining light in the 
future of Linux audio.


CCRMA
788718 clalsadrv - An ALSA driver C++ library (most of the following
depend on this one)
789255 ebumeter  - Loudness measurement according to
   EBU-R128
789251 jmeters   - Multichannel audio level meter
789249 jkmeter   - Horizontal or vertical bar-graph audio
   levels meter
789240 freqtweak - Realtime audio frequency spectral
   manipulation
789059 jaaa  - JACK and ALSA Audio Analyzer
789055 japa  - JACK and ALSA Perceptual Analyser
789385 ambdec- an ambiosonics decoder
789390 aeolus- aeolus organ synthesizer
789391 aeolus-stops - aeolus presets

LV2
788717 lv2-ir- An LV2 impulse response reverb plugin
784605 lv2-instance-access
 - An LV2 audio plug-in extension (part of the spec)
783825 suil  - A lightweight C library for loading and wrapping
   LV2 plugin UIs
789386 lilv  - An LV2 Resource Description Framework Library

My packages awaiting review can be found here [1]

cheers

Brendan

[1]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedclassification=Fedoraproduct=Fedoracomponent=Package%20Reviewbug_status=NEWemailreporter1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=brendan.jones.it%40gmail.com

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Re: Qt Package Build fails in rawhide and f17 and builds in f16

2012-02-10 Thread Brendan Jones

On 02/10/2012 11:19 AM, Johannes Lips wrote:

Hey,

I just seem to run into an error that a package builds just fine in f16
(unpackaged file is another thing) but it won't build on f17 and f18. Is
there an incompatibility of the source code with newer Qt versions or is
it just a temporary koji hickup?

f16 build:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=313
f17 build:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=315
f18 build:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=309

Thanks for any help,

Johannes



You need to #include stdint.h . This is due to GCC 4.7
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Re: Need help with latest automake 1.11.3 in rawhide

2012-02-04 Thread Brendan Jones

On 02/04/2012 05:20 PM, Remi Collet wrote:

mysql-workbench don't build anymore, seems to be a automake 1.11.3 issue
(build ok with previous version)


Here is the build.log
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3762316name=build.log

Help will be really appreciated...


Remi


Not sure if you are aware but there's a bug posted upstream with a 
suggested fix [1].


[1] http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=63898
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